PALMDALE – Do you recognize any of the men in this surveillance photo, particularly the man in the blue jacket? If so, then Palmdale detectives would like to hear from you.
They say the man in blue and his four friends entered a Carl’s Junior and snatched a cell phone out of a victim’s hands as the victim was showing photos to friends. When the victim chased the men to get the phone back, the group of men confronted the victim as if threatening to attack him. The incident occurred at 5 p.m., Dec. 28, 2011 at the Carl’s Junior, located at 25th Street East and Ave S in Palmdale.
The following is the press report from the Palmdale Station.
We are attempting to identify a suspect who ripped a cell phone out of a victims hands while they were showing their friends photos. The brazenness of this suspect is why we are showcasing him and hopefully with the public’s [help] we can identify him. The suspect along with four other friends entered the store and ripped the phone out of a patron’s hand while they were eating. When the victim chased the suspect out of the store, the suspect and his friends confronted him as if threatening to attack him.
If anyone recognizes any of these individuals but primarily the suspect in blue, we are asking them to please contact Detective Bartlett at 661-272-2446.
Nancy K. says
these people probably feel emboldened to do such things now that their Section 8 housing is untouchable.
Stinger says
Well put, Ace. How DARE these Section 8 renters even think that they are worthy of civil rights as if they were citizens, huh?
Maybe I should go into the pre-kerosene-soaked wooden cross business in Lancaster… Looks like I’d make a killing…
Leo says
What good does Section 8 REALLY do? Besides lower property values and artificially raise rents for people in houses that are not Section 8? If you read the Antelope Valley Press today there are THREE entire articles on Section 8. This is MAYHEM!
Section 8 brings mayhem, brings drugs, brings thugs and their kids and lowers the scores at schools and makes them dysfunctional.
Im Hispanic, of Guatemalan ancestry, but I guess I am just a “KKK crossburner” because I dared to have a voice and say what I feel!
Stinger says
Okay, Leo… You started off with some good points, then devolved into misrepresentation and false allegations.
The issues of property values and loss of affordable housing for those not on Section 8 is, indeed, a valid problem with that program and a good reason to create limits on how many such rentals may be allotted to any particular region.
The articles in the AV Press are a misrepresentation of the norm of Section 8. Every news organization runs stories on things that are ABNORMAL. If they ran stories on things that are normal, they wouldn’t sell much advertising because people would not be reading/listening/watching them. Therefore, news organizations tend to run with the outrageous and unusual, then hyperbolize them – remember “Swine Flu?”
As for the crime issue, this is false political tripe of the worst kind. Now, I am not saying that all Section 8 renters are wonderful people. I am saying that, statistically, they are no more likely to be involved in criminal activity than any other type of renters. Note that I do not say the entire population, but those who rent instead of own. Many reliable studies over the years have produced consistent statistics that have shown that, in general, rental housing (of all types) tends to have a higher incidence of crime than housing owned by those who live there. Indeed, the study that the City of Lancaster commissioned nearly a decade ago confirmed these same findings as well as that Section 8 rentals were no more crime ridden than other rentals (in fact, they were slightly less likely, but that difference was within the margin of error for that particular study).
If you’re gonna hate something, at least hate it for the right reasons! ;-)
Matt Keltner says
I am a non-Section 8 renter who has also been impacted by the Section 8 rental rates in the Antelope Valley. I just sent a letter to the Antelope Valley Press on this very matter and how it all ties into what the Mayor of Santa Clarita and her council members said recently about the Antelope Valley.