LANCASTER – Skateboarding on sidewalks, deputy response times, and scams that target the elderly were just a few of the issues raised at Coffee with a Deputy Thursday morning.
The monthly public meeting is designed to create a comfortable atmosphere where residents can meet with deputies from the Lancaster Station to address problems in their community.
About a dozen seniors attended Thursday’s session at the Lemon Leaf Café, which focused on senior safety. Sergeant Theresa Dawson and deputies Billy Cox and Michael Rust attended the meeting on behalf of the Lancaster Station.
Seniors from the Arbor Grove Apartments, near downtown Lancaster, said the complex had changed from senior-only housing and now the younger tenants were causing problems.
“They’re having a problem with residents not securing the gates and actually damaging the gates,” Rust said. “We’re going to work with their management to make sure that those gates can be kept secure all the time because seniors are not feeling safe.”
Rust gave the seniors tips for securing their windows and doors.
“You can place a piece of wood, like a stick, in the window to keep people from opening it,” Rust said.
Seniors were also given information on how to prevent and report elder abuse, identity theft, and various scams that target the elderly.
There is a scam going around where con artists call an elderly man or woman and claim to be the victim’s grandchild in need of money for an emergency, Rust said.
“When the victim picks up the phone, the person says ‘Grandma?’ and then the victim calls a grandchild’s name,” Rust said, adding that the con artist then pretends to be whomever the victim refers to in order to bilk the victim out of money.
“Their generation is very trusting so they’re extremely vulnerable to these scams.” Rust said. “It’s a big problem.”
Sgt. Dawson discussed deputy response times.
“We never want people to feel that they are not a priority, because they are,” Dawson said.
She said, while every call was important to the Lancaster Station, calls that reported a crime in progress or a life threatening emergency were given priority over routine calls in which the incident had already taken place.
Dawson said deputy response time on routine calls often varied, depending on the time of day, the amount of urgent calls, and other factors.
Lancaster resident Betty Jane asked if deputies could stop youngsters from riding their skateboards on the sidewalk.
Business owners on private property must post signs prohibiting skateboarding on the property, Dawson said. If skateboarders were creating a hazard on public walkways, then deputies would become involved, but it’s difficult to catch the skateboarder in the act, she said.
“As soon as they see a black and white coming down the street, they’re off their skateboards,” Dawson said, adding that parents could do a better job of supervising their children.
“We have children that are running amok throughout the city and we have law enforcement raising the children,” Dawson said.
Retiree Fay Butler, who relocated to Lancaster in 2003, said the recent rise in crime was probably due to the influx of low-income housing residents.
“Back in 2004 or 2005, we were told that we wouldn’t get the projects… but a lot of people that are coming out here now are people from the projects,” Butler said, adding that people from all races fell into this new group. “They’re bringing the bad behavior here, the pants dragging around the butt and the break-ins.”
Butler said deputies were doing an excellent job in stemming the crime wave.
“I give them an AAA+!” said Butler. “They put their lives on the line for citizens who don’t care about them and they don’t get paid enough.”
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MR. PERPLEXED IN THE AV says
NOW IN LOOKING AT THE TITLE AND PHOTOS IN THIS ARTICLE, IT BAFFLES ME NOT TO SEE THIS “OUTRAGED COMMUNITY” SWARMING THE DEPUTIES, ASKING QUESTIONS!MAKING SUGGESTIONS TO HAVE A BETTER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CITIZENS AND DEPUTIES! WHY? WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE IN THEIR 30’S 40’S OR CONCERNED CITIZENS SUCH AS GRETA? WHY IS IT THAT ONLY SENIOR CITIZENS TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO PARTCIPATE AND SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY? IS IT EASIER TO CRITIZE AND BLAME OTHERS THAN TO PARTICIPATE IN A CIVIL MANNER IN THE ISSUES THAT AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY? OR IS IT BECAUSE YOU ARE SCARED THAT THEY MIGHT CHECK YOUR RECORD AND TAKE YOU INTO CUSTODY? NOT UNLESS YOUR A KNOWN FELON OR YOU MISBEHAVE THAT WONT HAPPEN! SO, PLEASE PARTICIPATE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
anotherdummy says
Because we have crap to do, and jobs to be at on weekday mornings.
Sammy says
Don’t trust them. If we told them our “concerns” we’d have them circling our houses. Heard a guy in jury duty tell a judge he thought most sheriffs are liars. He thought even the “good ones” lied to cover their bad friends. Should of got his number to see if he was followed home.
Tired of their ways says
Maybe you can find out if they can have the meetings in the evenings/weekends …Or, I’m sure if you wanted I (we) would be glad to send you any info we received that day so you’ll know what went on…I know it’s hard for those who work, etc. I was able to go just because I was off work.
Tired of their ways says
I was at this meeting, first time. We received some info and phone numbers to call when we have a on going problem…
So when our section 8’s started up their crap as they always do, we called and they were there within a half hour…I mean they really came. Most of the time we call and by the time they get here the cockaroches have split…at least they wrote him up. We will see what happens, keeping numbers handy…And yes, anyone who can!! please come to the next one in Sept.
Adam Chant says
uh… look at the 2nd photo.. That’s an iPad and brown (not silver) hair so there were people in their 30’s at the meeting, even though it was about Senior Safety.
The next meeting is about Neighborhood Watch/Safety so hopefully more people will be able to show up. However I doubt it because having meetings in the middle of the week mid-morning is about the worst time if you expect to have employed people attend.
I’m very lucky to have a job that I can periodically work from my mobile device while attending these kinds of meetings.
Greta says
I liked it better when this news site was sticking it to the corrupt cops. Now AV Times has grown soft and you are kissing the badge like all the other media in the Valley. What happened AV Times????
[removed] says
Then take your ghetto ass back to Compton and you and your Baby Daddy can go back to shooting at utility workers repairing telephone poles, cussing, fighting, carrying on, holding up the Taco Bell and cussing at the cops when they drive by. [removed]!
really says
Corrupt cops? Give me a break, show me one proveable instance where cops were acting in a corrupt manner. Dont give me your perception either, facts only…
Sammy says
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20sex&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CEMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flatimesblogs.latimes.com%2Flanow%2F2012%2F05%2Fformer-deputy-convicted.html&ei=s2YnUNfCBaj7igLJ-YHYCw&usg=AFQjCNFhEgpMSdVVn9UtmtvXYk3ElnzBRw
or
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or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20sex&source=web&cd=4&sqi=2&ved=0CEsQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fabclocal.go.com%2Fkabc%2Fstory%3Fsection%3Dnews%2Flocal%2Flos_angeles%26id%3D8637539&ei=_GYnUJ-iBunoiwKoj4HADA&usg=AFQjCNFuMiXIISzRtleuULeeGeZkKGngKw
or
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/03/13/deputy-sentenced-for-sex-acts-with-teenage-relative/
or
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/01/13/former-jail-deputy-admits-to-accepting-bribery-to-smuggle-contraband-inside-jail/
or
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/10/07/inmate-18-dies-in-county-jail-after-allegedly-being-punched-in-the-face-by-deputy/
or
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/04/07/retired-sheriffs-deputy-pleads-no-contest-to-embezzling-450k/
or
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/01/06/ex-la-county-sheriffs-deputy-pleads-guilty-to-firing-gun-off-duty/
or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20sex&source=web&cd=13&ved=0CEsQFjACOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMike_Carona&ei=VmgnUKzWDuOUiAKq6IDYCg&usg=AFQjCNF3Qx9MQRUM6a23GC6wzLDOndrg2g
or
http://batteredbypd.wordpress.com/lasd-cases-exposing-lies-corruption/
or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CFAQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scpr.org%2Fblogs%2Fnews%2F2012%2F07%2F30%2F9218%2Fsheriffs-deputy-charged-perjury-drug-case%2F&ei=m2gnULfLHKauiAKGrYCgCw&usg=AFQjCNFag5IcP7wvLEMncd3gIfVVTtjUBQ
or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CFAQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scpr.org%2Fblogs%2Fnews%2F2012%2F07%2F30%2F9218%2Fsheriffs-deputy-charged-perjury-drug-case%2F&ei=m2gnULfLHKauiAKGrYCgCw&usg=AFQjCNFag5IcP7wvLEMncd3gIfVVTtjUBQ
or
http://www.copblock.org/tag/los-angeles-ca/
or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CFAQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.scpr.org%2Fblogs%2Fnews%2F2012%2F07%2F30%2F9218%2Fsheriffs-deputy-charged-perjury-drug-case%2F&ei=m2gnULfLHKauiAKGrYCgCw&usg=AFQjCNFag5IcP7wvLEMncd3gIfVVTtjUBQ
or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=19&ved=0CFgQFjAIOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailynews.com%2Fbreakingnews%2Fci_21178338%2Fl-county-sheriff-lee-baca-undersheriff-grilled-jail&ei=1GonUMjUFKnViwKqyIDoCQ&usg=AFQjCNHHSBsCK4CfO2QVBJSggWVQjwICcA
or
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or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=25&ved=0CFEQFjAEOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fnews%2Farticle%2FACLU-files-suit-against-LA-County-sheriff-DA-3697433.php&ei=gmsnUJfLC4H9igKihYGgCg&usg=AFQjCNGeXNKFFnGFyGzY_2g3FdfCvEcrFQ
or
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or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=51&ved=0CEkQFjAAODI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.laweekly.com%2Finformer%2Fabove-the-law%2F&ei=S2wnUPeUHIzVigL-zoDwCQ&usg=AFQjCNFj0MGvf8MvisFAiagzpXLtuVINig
or
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/above-the-law/
or
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=la%20count%20sheriff%20guilty%20of%20lying&source=web&cd=70&ved=0CFkQFjAJODw&url=http%3A%2F%2Farticles.latimes.com%2F2011%2Fsep%2F18%2Flocal%2Fla-me-sheriff-credibility-20110919&ei=Cm4nUKihE8SQiQL_rYHICQ&usg=AFQjCNHt-AN1q-j_4GBW0bnErosf5r5P2g
Sammy says
I can go on and on. But you can’t be swayed. So it won’t stop.
You can still back good sheriffs. But if you can’t admit they have their own criminal behavior, we can’t get rid of the bad cops.
bad cops will do nothing more or less than herald in our police state. Only the American public can stop that from happening.
Not blind obedience. For anyone.
Sammy says
So “really”, gave you tons of “corrupt cops” most found guilty this year alone. Yet you say nothing?
NOT MY PERCEPTION EITHER!
really says
I understand, I am not saying there arent corrupt cops. I was reffering to here locally. Dont get me wrong corrupt cops deserve to be held accountable but just between sheriffs and lapd there are 18000 cops and you might find some instances of corruption. But compared to how many cops there are its probably less than 1%.
Sammy says
They are all “local” in the sense that they are all LA County sheriffs.
WE, as in the Antelope Valley, ARE WHERE THE SHERIFFS SEND RECRUITS FOR TRAINING.
The AV is LASD’s training center. Where do you think they learned what they can and can’t do?
We have NO idea how many of these guys started out here, or how many spent years here. But the above are now all proven liars and criminals. Do you really think that only happened AFTER moving to other parts of LA County???
Police state anyone?
realitycheck says
Spoken like a true criminal Sammy! What happened, you got busted by a good cop, you can’t take responsibility for your actions, so now all cops are corrupt? First off, all LASD stations (about 25 or 30 of them)train deputies who have worked the jails, not just Lancaster and Palmdale. Second, yes, you make a point, there seems to have been a rash of discipline problems lately, and those few should pay the correct price, whether it be days off without pay,firing, etc. Look back at your links, and notice a majority of them are minorities, with less than 10 years on. Some of that can be attributed to the hiring spree LASD embarked on a while back. They lowered their standards, and put up billboards in the ghetto advertising job openings. If you put up a billboard in the ghetto, guess who you get for applicants? GHETTO! So now they are showing their colors. Like @really said, between LAPD & LASD,you are talking about 18,000+ officers, there will be a few idiots, but the only people talking like you Sammy, are criminals.
Sammy says
And here comes that police state! Brought to America by traitors like realitycheck.
Brought to us by the cowering sheep, prostrating themselves to men in POWER.
What’s their boots taste like, rc? I imagine your conversations go something like this;
“blubber blubber, you need coffee sir? I fetch you whatever you need. can I, realitycheck, touch your gun? pleaseeeee ‘snivel’.”
ANY man in power “NO you little tool. Now remember, if you ever ever hear anyone say something bad about ANY man in power, CALL THEM A CRIMINAL”. “THAT’LL PROVE WE AREN’T MILITARIZING THE LOCAL SHERIFFS”.
Closet I’ve been to a court room is jury duty rc. But being as you’re such a sheep, I understand why it’s important to your master’s plan to marginalize anyone saying the truth.
Knee Gus Paleez says
Spammy, I hope you talk that tough when you get pulled over by”the man”. Tell him you don’t like his “police state”. Make sure you refuse to sign his silly little cite, and definitely refuse to exit your car when asked. Let me know how it goes! However, something tells me you’re one of those little b****es who talks a good game here, but starts shaking and trembling, and begins to cry and scream for his mama when “the man” is standing right in front of you….LOL! So will you admit the poster above make you look dumb about the LASD training program at least?
Sammy says
I agree that YOU want me, and everyone else, to shake in fear around your men in power. Why? Because that’show you act? Have fun with that. And no, WE the av, is a major training ground for the LASD. Not that same as getting your buddies kid into another station.
Did the offer you a job answering fonessss in their command center?
realitycheck says
Sorry Spam, The AV trains slightly more deputies than some smaller stations, due to the size of the 2 stations here. Deputies select the station they want to work at after they complete their time in the jails. So the percentage of street cops who trained up here, compared to all the deputies on the street is small, maybe 10%. In conclusion,you’re full of $hit…again!
Mallster says
reality check, you have nothing real to actually contribute to these articles, do you? stooping to the typical unintelligent tactic of “if I don’t like what you say, I will call you some unsupported name that implies you are up to no good” and never respond in any concrete way to the concerns the other poster has raised. you have no real contribution to make, other than to attack another person’s character, do you? the evidence is there for all the world to see, on multiple articles on this site. I just discovered this AV Times, and it’s a drag that instead of intelligent discourse, a cockroach like you is running rampant across its’ forums, spreading crap and filth in your wake
realitycheck says
Welcome Mallster! Gee, I’m sorry you don’t approve of some of my posts. I really do try and respond in a “concrete way to the concerns the other poster has raised.” However, some people here “are up to no good,” and their character IS questionable. Some here are convicted felons. You complain about name calling, but then you do the same. Sammy, and others here, are probably big boys and able to defend themselves if they are offended. The beauty of these sites is you can log off if you don’t like someone’s posts!
Sammy says
“Slightly More”??? OK, I get it now. You don’t have a clue. Willfully ignorant. Which makes you such a useful tool. Good luck with that.
realitycheck says
Ok Samuel, I’ll put it in simple terms you need. Lancaster and Palmdale are larger stations, so they need more personnel, so most deputies who train here will stay here. On occasion, when other smaller stations are short on training officers, Lancaster or Palmdale will train their body for a month or so, then that deputy gets sent to the station he selected. In general, each station trains their own, other than the circs I just explained. The 2 stations up here are not (that means the opposite of ARE, Samuel) training grounds for the rest of the county. Thanks for playing.
sikntired says
Where were you, Ace?