LANCASTER – When you hear about Grace Resources, you hear about Steve Baker, and vice versa. The two go hand in hand, and have for 21 years now. The AV Times caught up with Baker recently in his unassuming office, which consists of an old wooden desk, a decidedly downmarket chair, a file cabinet or two and an open door. The door is never shut… always open.
Baker, long considered one of the “father figures” of the Antelope Valley, opened up on a variety of topics, including his early upbringing, a typical day at Grace Resources, and how he handles the stress of it all. Read passages from our conversation below:
Tell us how you got to where you are as the Executive Director of Grace Resources… how growing up, the way you did, prepared you for your role now.
I was born [laughs]. I pretty much grew up here. I moved up here in ’59, and I was in 5th grade and I kinda grew up in the YMCA. It was a little house on Avenue J. I was, of all my friends, the only one with a single mom. I was on the eastside; all my friends were on the westside.
I had the example of an early great dad from one of my friend’s parents who all got to me. They didn’t feel sorry for me, they just loved me. I grew up with their influence. And most of them went to First Baptist. In ’68, I became a Christian. Then I was running camps for the Y in high school, then later ran it for the church. Then I became a junior high youth pastor…
I was in the Navy, but I was home every weekend. So I ran the youth group on Sunday nights. I worked at Soledad Sands Park [today’s Thousand Trails in Acton] on Saturdays, Friday nights and part of Sundays.
When I got on the staff of the church, I went to school part time. Azusa Pacific College had an extension here in Lancaster [at Antelope Valley College] where I took ministry classes. I went to Cal Baptist in Riverside and Point Loma Nazarene College in San Diego for other ministry classes.
So, I didn’t do the typical thing and go full time. I was working in the Navy and going to school when I wasn’t working… Then I went to San Diego and resigned from that church. Ended up coming home… and worked at Edwards for two years [as an intermediate maintenance overhaul mechanic].
Then they asked me to start this… I took it, and never looked back. So in February of ’91, we found that building on Yucca and opened July 1st of ’91.
The former Lancaster Community Shelter was formerly run by Catholic Charities, but now Grace Resources runs it, and it has a new name – the Inn Between. Tell me about that.
Children are a priority. There are 115 beds, with 12 family units. Men are kept separate from women in every activity – sleeping, eating, bathing, laundering, etc. There’s an AA meeting Monday nights. It’s faith based. We also have a parenting class that happens at a church cater-cornered across the street.
Then we do case management. The minute we get them in, we start to work on an exit strategy…you’ve got 15 days to stay. So when they know they’ve got just 15 days, they begin to get serious about a place to stay.
For the others, they have 15 days to stay, then they street it. Every time they come back they get another acute management meeting. We talk to them, once again, about where they’re gonna be. Where are they going to get a roof over their heads? What can we do to help you do that? And/or get them home somewhere, and/or get them to turn themselves into prison to get rid of their warrants so they can find a job, get their license back, or whatever it is.
I’m a chaplain for the Sheriff’s Department, so I take them over there and help turn themselves in, help them serve a couple days or a week in jail. I’ve volunteered [as a Sheriff’s Department Chaplain] for 10 or 12 years. I’m kinda the closest dude, so when something goes down and they need me, they pick me up and say, ‘we need you for a druggie, or such and such, or death row notification…’ whatever.
What kind of people do you see, typically, these days seeking help from Grace Resources? Are these the perennially homeless, newly unemployed, or something else going on?
Too many of them lose their place, and they resigned themselves to the fact they’d better get their stuff together and rent a house, and then rent from somebody who’s losing [their house], or who doesn’t even own it sometimes. Within a couple of months they’re told they have to get out of it in three days. So they’re a mess, and it usually happens right after they get their monthly check or whatever their income is. And they have the whole three and a half or four weeks before they get more money. So that’s – that’s the mess.
We try to stand in the in between – which is the nickname for the shelter (The Inn Between). They come in here, they’re broke. I see them wandering around in the parking lot, embarrassed… they come in here for groceries and we earn their trust and make sure we know what the rest of the story is. And then we do what we can.
How do you handle it all? What’s your typical day like?
Well, if I stressed on everything, I’d be dead! It’s just too much to stress on… I had a 22-year-old mom with a young child [and] two other kids. The two other kids, she doesn’t know where they are. And she stepped in here with no place to stay…
[I] gave her food, gave her a voucher for our thrift store to get her a couple changes of clothes, and bus fare to get to Cal City to stay with her aunt. But, she needs to go to the police and file a complaint against her ex-husband. She walked in here crying and very upset, and left here with a smile.
That took an hour of my time, you know. It’s the discerning of whether people’s needs are real or are they just trying to get what they can get. It’s a very taxing job, sucks the energy right out of your head… Typically, I spend most of my day here, talking to people who are in trouble.
Another young man I’ve been working with for two weeks, he came out here with some friends, and there was a place they were supposed to be able to stay, and it didn’t work out.
He was 23 years old. He had a backpack and his stuff, and his friends kind of dumped him, so he wanted to go back to North Carolina. So I get a discount [fare ticket] of $176.
He goes, ‘wow!’
I say, ‘you get $100 and I’ll get you there.’
He goes, ‘I can’t do that!’
I go, ‘yes you can. You have 15 days to stay at the shelter, and you can earn the $100.’
So he did. He ended up getting a ride up to Tehachapi – he had a friend up there – and spent the night there. The friend gave him the $100, and he got a ride back. He walked in the next morning and gave me the check for $176. I gave him $20 of it back, so he’s going to have some spending money. And he honored my request. He’s back in Greensboro, North Carolina, where he has family.
But you know I just can’t spend $176 every time someone walks in through the door. I really couldn’t spend $176, but I really wanted to get him home.
Where does your support come from? Does anyone come back and tell you, ‘thank you?’
It doesn’t say ‘free food’ anywhere on our building. But the reality is that people who need it find out about it. We could be doing 20,000 people a month, if people out there need it.
Today [Aug. 7], we had two rounds of grocery handouts at 10 and at 1. A bunch of people helping were clients down the road. They say thank you, but they also say thank you by coming back and being a volunteer.
People who support us, say at $10, $15, or $20 a month, a lot of them are people who have been clients over the years. Some of them were clients, got out of that, then helped us, then got in trouble again. Then they became clients again. So some have supported us for years, and have lost their home. They’re in trouble again and are so embarrassed. And I go, ‘wait a minute! If you hadn’t supported us over the years, we wouldn’t be here to take care of you now. It’ll all work out.’
Are you a very gifted director, or are you just blessed with people who want to do a good thing in the Antelope Valley and help the cause of Grace Resources?
I don’t think I’m that extraordinary, except for one thing: I’ve learned early on to get out of God’s way and let him do what he does best. I’m not a very patient person, generally. I love people, and I want this to be successful. And I know it doesn’t work because I’m amazing or a good director or a good administrator. It’s because we trusted God with it. He’s honored that. So, as long as I don’t let my head go big or do things on my own steam, that’s when things get headed south. I love my staff, and I love the people coming in for help, and they all know that. I’m not perfect, I don’t always do it right, but they trust me. I think the biggest thing is building trust with the community.
They know if they give us $10, it’s going to stay right here and be used well…
View video (created last year), explaining the history of how Grace Resources came about.
(David Cox is the publisher of wanderingpilgrimsprogress.blogspot.com.)
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Tony Smith says
Hey have you ever tried Grace Resources food give away? Try it. see what you get. Some moldie bread or stuff that a goat can’t even eat. Some fat Black guy that talks about nothing and how it’s not that bad. If you aren’t there on time and have not been to “the big talk” you get nothing. I saw this last week to a poor guy that was down on his luck. Once a month is all you can come, there are other places that you can go every week or so and you don”t feel so bad about yourself. I have never seen Steve Baker aT the handing out of food. They say the food is USAD,BUT its not real I have been to where they give out the USDA food Cheese,Butter, Powdered milk, ect. How can you make a meal out of 2 cans black eyed beans bread( HART brand),Lakeside corn,Vine Ripe spaghetti sause, American Farm butter beans,no pasta or noodles. It doesn’t matter if you have 6 people to feed or 2,you get the same amount, One-bag per month and some bread or donuts that are stale. Sure Steve Baker is a great guy. BUT WHY DON’T THE PEOPLE GET THE REAL FOOD????????? THE NEWS SHOULD REALLY BE THERE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY TO SEE A HUNDRED PEOPLE, AND WHAT THE REALLY GET. LISTEN TO SOME GUY FROM LA TRYING TO GET YOU TO SIGN UP FOR HEALTH CARE SERVICES.PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY JAIL GET FEED BETTER.
legalize says
Also heard they are charging, although not top dollar but charging nevertheless, on clothes that people donate, thinking the clothes will be given away for free to those in need.
NAMI Advocate says
While Steve Baker is indeed a decent and well meaning man, he is not a saint, and the takeover of Lancaster Community Shelter by Grace Resources is an unmitigated disaster.
Lancaster has had an issue for some time with the chronically homeless. In most cases these people are mentally ill, and a large number of them are veterans. LCS had programs in place to try to help these folks, identify their issues, help with medication, and help identify services that could help them make the transition between homelessness and some sort of stable living situation.
Baker’s approach is different. If they can not be helped in 15 days, than they are pretty much out of luck. His “surrender to jail” program often ends up just relocating the “problem”, a homeless person, to Los Angeles, where they are released onto the streets.
The truth is that the Antelope Valley has a home grown issue with homelessness, and a vulnerable population that suffers from mental illness. Now, there are fewer options for these people, even the veterans. The 15 days and your out policy has been discussed by programs that serve the mentally ill and veterans, and everyone is worried about what happens when the temperature drops. It’s one thing to be homeless here in the summer, but in the winter its deadly.
legalize says
Hard to call a man a saint when he pulls down $160,000 a year for doing what he does. imagine he’s a good enough guy, but it’s not like he does this for free.
Paul Williams says
$160,000 a year…..that is total bull crap.
Tony Smith says
RIGH BROTHER WHAT DO THE REST OF THE STAFF MAKE> PLUS THE FREE STUFF THEY GET TO TAKE AWAY.
really says
The reality of the situation is that there are more homeless people than there are beds at the shelter. I think Mr Bakers 15 days is reasonable. This allows the shelter to serve more people. Furthermore I think it is sad that you would take issue with the shelter, it is the only one in the valley and is supported through charity. You can ridicule goverment all you want but to do so to a charitable orginization is wrong. The last I checked it was still legal to start your own charity. Maybe you should do so and open a shelter and run it in accordance with your views. Lastly didnt the county build a veterans house on Ave I, and didnt mental health build some apartments right behind the Sheriffs station.
Kevin Murphy says
@Dave Cox,
Excellent story about the great work Steve and crew do at GRC. May God continue to bless this humble man and the great work they do for the people in need in the Antelope Valley.
keep up the good work Dave.
Kevin Murphy
Lancaster, CA
mike says
Food for thought (excuse the pun): the AV Fair Board should consider next year to allow free admission throughout the Fair for those bringing 5 cans of food instead of just a couple of days. Another thing: Mr. Baker is a saint, but the Lancaster City Council was wrong when they turned the Lancaster shelter over to Grace Resources. It is too much of a job. I recommended at the time (and since) that Lancaster partner with a mission down below to run the Lancaster Shelter and spare Mr. Baker the additional work of running the shelter. Of course, the Lancaster City Council did otherwise.
John Mlynar says
Steve is a great guy and an AV gem! Thank you for all you do for those in need.
Palmdale_Steve says
David
How much of the funding for Grace Resources comes from the Federal Government? Or probably more correctly, what is the break down of funding for Grace Resource Center?
David Cox says
Steve, good question. According to the Grace Resources website, “Funding resources for the organization will include churches, individuals, and businesses.” Please see their Mission Statement page for the quote cited: http://www.graceresources.org/MissionStatement.asp
I’m not aware of the funding breakdown for Grace Resources. For more information, I’d contact Bill Bennett, Grace Resources Project Director and Grant Coordinator at (661) 940-5272 or email him directly at wwb.write@yahoo.com. Thanks for reading the Antelope Valley Times.
Michelle Egberts says
@David Cox… What a fabulous job you did on your first assigment. Such an inspirational story with your pen in hand. Continued success to you and the Grace Resource Center and The Inn Between.
David Cox says
Thanks so very much, Michelle! (humble bow) This isn’t my first story published here at The Antelope Valley Times, however. . . the Chick-Fil-A story was. But you’re right, this is the first planned writing assignment I’ve had that has been published so far. More to come that I hope you and many others here in the Antelope Valley community will enjoy, appreciate and benefit from.
If you like this story, you’ll most likely like hearing from Steve Baker himself. There’s an audio of him giving a message at Grace Chapel in Lancaster, where he is a member, in the place of the Senior Pastor, Chris Johnson. Quite an honor to do so, from Steve Baker’s perspective. This message is the “spark” that gave me the idea to do this interview and story. Here’s the link: http://www.gclancaster.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1086:power-of-grace&catid=59:sermon-audio&Itemid=84
I already have a followup story planned on Grace Resources in general. Again, thanks so much for your kind comments and for reading the Antelope Valley Times.