LANCASTER – California lawmakers must put politics aside and put public safety first by allowing illegal immigrant drivers to obtain licenses. This according to Lancaster Mayor R. Rex Parris.
In a news release issued Monday, Parris sounded off on the importance of providing a driver’s license to illegal immigrants and cited a recent DMV study on fatal crash rates and unlicensed drivers to support his cause. Read the news release below:
Drivers who are unlicensed or have a suspended or revoked license are nearly three times more likely to cause a fatal crash, a new Department of Motor Vehicles study found.
“The Californian immigration debate is full of political posturing and extreme ideology and many people cannot bring themselves to see that as a practical matter, refusing to license immigrant drivers has had no discernible impact on the number of undocumented immigrants living in or leaving California, yet it has left our roads more unsafe,” declared R. Rex Parris, Mayor of the City of Lancaster.
“The legal ability or inability to obtain a driver’s license does not affect whether an immigrant enters the U.S. or not. But we know from study after study it’s even more dangerous to be an unlicensed driver rather than drive with a suspended or revoked license. The most recent Department of Motor Vehicles (DVM) study concluded that compared to the average legal driver, such drivers are 2.6 to 2.73 times more likely to cause a fatal crash, depending on the driver.”
The DMV study, Fatal Crash Rates for Suspended/Revoked and Unlicensed Drivers, took crash data over 23 years. Researchers looked at the correlation among two-vehicle fatal crashes where one driver was at fault. The at-fault crash risk of drivers without permission to drive has not diminished over time. The study found that people between the ages of 20 to 29 who do not have driver licenses have the largest percentage of two-vehicle fatal car accidents. (Read the study here.)
“If caught with a suspended or revoked license or found to be driving without one, the law requires a 30-day vehicle impoundment as well as fines. While some cities have relaxed their impound policy to allow unlicensed individuals, accompanied by a licensed driver, to pick up their cars without waiting 30 days, it has not made our roads safer. Unlicensed, and therefore uninsured, drivers cost California alone hundreds of millions a dollars a year in uninsured motorist coverage. In addition, medical costs to care for uninsured motorists injured in an accident force significant costs onto the public,” said Parris.
“It is time that everyone recognizes that undocumented immigrants are already an integral and permanent part of our communities and are not going away; they are here to work and live in our state. California has two legitimate, primary purposes in issuing driver’s licenses: the maintenance of safe streets and highways and the preservation of the integrity of the driver’s license by ensuring that an individual proves their identity in the application process. Most undocumented immigrant drivers drive without being trained, tested, licensed, and insured. That must change. It is time that Sacramento put politics aside and put public safety first by allowing illegal immigrant drivers to obtain licenses. Once they are legally allowed to obtain drivers licenses, we must have law enforcement agencies strictly enforce the current laws regarding unlicensed drivers, including mandatory 30-day holds,” concluded Parris.
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pancho says
… the gringos, they want to give us more free stuff. Now, thee gringos are going to give us free driver’s licenses, and more free jobs —
orlean ratchford says
I DROVE MY SISTERS CAR 2 BLKS.TO MARKET .SHE HAD NO INSURANCE. i GET FINED $1425 AND SINCE I DONT HAVE A JOB AND CHECKING ACCT. NO PYMT. OPTIONS 4 ME . IT S CONSIDEED A REFUSAL TO PAY,WENT TO COLLECTIONS $1748 NOW AND THEY SUSPENDED MY DRIVERS LIC. TOO . SCHOOL SESSION AT AVC STARTS THIS WEEK AND WE DONT HAVE BUSES THAT GO UP AND DOWN THE 3 TO 5 MAJOR AVE.S THEY GO ON CRAZY ROUTES RIDICULOS. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE MYSELF TO SCHOOL OR MABE BUSES THAT GO FROM 20TH EAST TO 30TH WEST
Geoff Lindstrom says
I have not lived in Lancaster for years, but reading this particular article showed me just how out of touch R. Rex Perris really is. A man who at every opportunity has raped taxpayers to fund a seemingly personnal war on drugs. A war that may have resulted in arrests, but has not done a single bit of good in stemming the flow, availibility or usage of drugs in his city, now has the audacity to say that illegals are a fact of life in California. What world does he live on? Now wants to make life that much easier for people who are illegally in our country. I know this country was founded to be a melting pot of different cultures but after a while enough is enough.
Gladys says
@Thomas, I am not a loafer, do not take/receive any type of taxpayer money or “handouts”. I have been employed by 2 well respected, national employers for a number of years.Vu?
Thomas says
Gladys, I have had a job since I was 16. The only hand out I have ever taken was a free sample at Costco.
Gladys says
Good for you Thomas. It’s nice that you live by example.
I must admit, I have had a few samples at Costco as well. My favorite was a frozen calzone.
Dave Francis says
THE ROAD TO FISCAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION CHAOS IS HERE?
Hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions of people are avidly attentive to every word that springs from the lips of President Barack Obama on the immigration debate. They wait patiently throughout Mexico, South America, Europe, The Caribbean Islands, China and from one horizon to the other, for this administration and the GOP minority party to vote on a new immigration policy. It could easily be Déjà-Vu all over again, a simulation of the 1986 Ron Reagan, Simpson-Mazzoli Immigration Reform and Control Act. (IRCA) when the estimated interior 3 million illegal aliens, escalated into somewhere around 6 million? The borders were suddenly inundated with people, and additionally a sudden surge in airline flights with parties of families come into America under false pretenses of just visiting. The outcome was huge amounts of deceptive papers that indicated the people had been living here illegally for years, but could now apply for citizenship. That in itself was one issue, but the promise of the deceased Ted Kennedy and the rest of the bunch that such laws as holding businesses liable for hiring illegal aliens was never fully enforced, or other restrictions. Please—if nothing else, assure the American people that every illegal alien is fully processed; no short cuts and proof positive that they were here before the enactment of a new law. Not the carnival of errors as before, letting millions more to slip past immigration safeguards. Even thirty years ago the laws were ignored as the business community held thrall over the political parties, with donations to campaign contributions, travel and other favors.
So here we stand today with the potential of another blanket amnesty, and very little hindrance to the people who are going to cross deserts, or the airports as fake tourists. Most reports say that more one way arrivals enter America this way as visa overstays, then those who sweep through either the Northern or Southern border with the intention to squat here? Taxpayers who pay the bills, for illegal aliens can expect illegal entries to rise if Obama collects enough votes to pass another amnesty. My thought it is so unfair to people who enter this country through proper channels; many hundreds of thousands sitting and waiting many years for a visa. The 19th century immigrants came here expecting nothing but hard work, but the illegal immigrant’s today press politicians for civil rights, entitlements and a pass to citizenship. By any other name these are criminals, who are stealing legally money from citizens and legal residents.
Right now the only chance we have to place legal obstacles in the way of illegal aliens, and insist that most of the Democrats and some Republicans (Not TEA PARTY lawmakers) that federal and state politicians serve the general public by honoring their oaths to protect us from enemies–Domestic and Foreign–by enacting the “LEGAL WORKFORCE BILL., Its purpose is to detect illegal working aliens and replacing them with some of the 24 million Americans remaining jobless or using temporary work, as part of the (LWB) is E-verify that is being updated constantly and soon will have access to Drivers Licenses Agencies to cross-reference and authenticate workers. The most contentious law that must be applied is an amendment to the 14th Amendment, which existed for the end of slavery, to uphold citizenship for future black descendants. However it has been perverted from its original intent, giving citizenship to children smuggled into the United States. A simple, easy and correct amendment would stop this immigration travesty, by only allowing the children of parents, who already has citizenship.
Involved is hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayers money swallowed up by foreign nationals, once the baby holds an American birth certificate and hence a passport. It becomes a fulcrum for the illegal Mother to stay here, to accumulate citizenship welfare for the baby, followed by the rest of the family circle. Mexico has closed this loophole and most European countries, while Canada and the United States still have a guarantee for citizenship for the pregnant unconcealed or those smuggled through our porous borders. For anybody who comes to America should be a criminal felony and not a civil slap on the wrist. ONLY THE RAISED VOICES OF THE TEA PARTY AND THE LEGAL POPULATION OF THE U.S. CAN ULTIMATELY GET THESE PARAMOUNT LAWS PASSED AND SAVING THE DESPICABLE COSTS EXTRACTED FROM US EVERY APRIL?
The agriculture industry obviously needs Guest Workers, but it must be a uniform program that the farmers pay all those benefits, including a fair wage, not stick the unsuspecting public with the bill. That at the end of their contract, the Agjob labor must leave and then apply for a new job. I doubt anybody will disagree that those persons with exemplary professional skills, such as the STEM workers should be expedited through the system, as businesses are forever calling out for these people. Our government should enforce the laws to halt the desperate from other countries, as these people are not our problem, but our own homeless, and destitute are, especially the elderly who seem to be completely neglected.
Forewarned says
Most Americans don’t realize that, decades ago, the Democrats instituted a long-term plan to gradually turn the United States into a Third World nation. The country would become poorer and less free, but Democrats would have an unbeatable majority.
Forward says
I wonder where “Forewarned” gets it’s information/stats on exactly how and when the Democrats decided to turn this country into a 3rd world country ‘just to get votes’?
Forwarned, and others like them prefer to ignore the fact that when we were in a faux-boom economy, most looked the other way when jobs are plentiful and most were enjoying that false illusion of money floating around – which was actually the government borrowing huge amounts of cash from foreign countries to create the illusion of “prosperity”. Many fell for it, and lost their shirts, and their pants in that fiasco.
It was also real convenient for the W Administration to not include the “War expenses” in their budget – but now that it is – they easily blame the party in power of “mad, out of control spending” – when in fact the bills they racked up have now become ‘due’.
Granted, many took advantage of our laws with their anchor babies, but then those actively protest against this are the same one’s who who advocate against a woman’s right to choose.
Which is it? Are these children only sacred before their born, and afterwards a burden to the state and ‘hard working Americans”?
Makes no sense, as usual.
William says
@Forward. Golly, how did you miss the glaring absurdity in Forewarned’s comment that it’s the Democrats whose long-term plan is to turn this into a 3rd world country?
It all started with Reagan. Wages have been stagnant since Reagan while executive compensation sky-rocketed as the executives, think GOP, outsourced jobs, closed American plants, and took the rewards of increased productivity for themselves and not the workers. Think Mitt Romney as the poster child for that.
The republicans have opposed unions since forever which helped grow a middle-class in the 50s and 60s.
They oppose minimum wage and want to cut everything that supports a working and middle-class in this country.
That’s how you make the U.S. into a 3rd world country with a few rich and the rest working for low wages. Isn’t that how 3rd world countries are? Plus, keep military spending as a priority like North Korea.
I suspect Forewarned is using a software program designed to churn out nonsense on a daily basis. No intelligent person could write what she writes.
Forward says
” … I suspect Forewarned is using a software program designed to churn out nonsense on a daily basis”.
Gotta be an app out there for that, William – I think it’s called the Drudge Report, fed by the Heritage Foundation…..not shur…..
Forewarned says
I bet your brain feels as good as new, seeing that you’ve never used it.
William says
“I bet your brain feels as good as new, seeing that you’ve never used it.”
Once again, Forewarned proves how lame she is. Jesus, she repeats tired old stuff from the 5th grade.
Well, it’s Day 24 and she’s still goin’ strong.
William says
Day 24
Forewarned says
Checkout the love fest between William and Forward. Why don’t you two get a room? Your slobbering love affair on the Internet is getting embarrassing.
William says
Is that you, Bernie Goldberg with the ‘slobbering love affair’ s*** that’s in the title of his book? Now, we know you suck up to Bill O’Reilly and your IQ drops a point or 2 each time you watch.
Is there such a thing as a negative IQ? If so, Forewarned is headed there. I can’t wait.
Day 24 and counting, girl.
Forewarned says
You libs are so threatened by fox news because they make people aware of the propaganda that the MSM spews. We know you suck up to Rachel Maddow and your IQ drops 4 points or more each time you watch. There is such a thing as negative IQ…..[removed].
William says
Now I’ve got the Forewarned critter up on her hind legs defending Faux News. The news that has the most unininformed viewers of the major teevee news outlets.
She/it can’t even do her own thinking any more. Somebody help her. She uses my own comments to substitute for her inability to form complete thoughts when she’s not recycling lame old jokes.
Even though O’Reilly got sued for sexual harassment, Forewarned, I doubt if he would give you a tumble as much as you love his blather.
How many more days of this, Forewarned? or are you like this all month long?
Gladys says
Nothing like the love fest between, Really, realitycheck, captain obvious, thomas, otto, the guy who got his names removed for trying to sneak in racial slurs as his name, forwarned, Eris and the rest of their foos ball team of City workers and LASD.
Thomas says
I would rather be lumped into the working class rather than the benefit collecting loafers that plague our valley. Which are you Gladys???
William says
@Thomas. You guys think that anyone who disagrees with the right wing extremism exemplified in this Valley is on welfare, food stamps, whatever.
That’s a common accusation on the right [removed]
I’m retired after working 2 jobs for the previous 15 years and I get accused of being on Section 8 by [removed] who are also probably birthers. I just finished remodeled my own home last year, so ‘no’ I’m not on Section 8. But, interestingly enough, that doesn’t stop them. [removed]
Thomas says
William that would make you part of the working class. The system is not supporting you. I did not accuse any one person of anything. I simply asked a question.
Rooney says
Rex, have you read our new laws? Read: AB2189, Cedillo.
If a person can prove that his/her presence is authorized under federal law!
Why should a person who doesn’t speak English, get a drivers license? My car was totalled by an illegal who didn’t speak English, have a drivers license or insurance and nothing was done to him. I have to pay for Uninsured Motorist insurance. Thanks!
From what I see, people are still on cell phones (no not ear pieces), grooming, reading and eating. Get rid of illegals! I came to this country legally and you, like Barbara Boxer think they’re ok, so you can get their vote. What a crumb you are!
I’m glad I live in Palmdale :)
Thomas says
Prisoners are being released because the state mismanaged the prison system
dave says
Rex thank you sir, for your great article,And for thinking about our civil rights.Loyal Rex Parris supporter.
dave says
Rex what ever political office you run for you got my vote,I voted for you as mayor and you are very creative.You no if they get licenced,it would but millions of dollars in to the straped out california budget.And thanks for thinking about our civil rights,I havent seen but a few people who care about your thoughts but i do,You protect my mother with leaps and you do one hell of a job as mayor.Thank Mayor Parriss.Yeah people put you down but there not man enough to tell you in person.
Sgt Al says
Tell me Dave, what color is the sky in your world? I will agree with you that what occupies space as our mayor is creative. Few individuals can fleece the populous as many creative and different ways as your master-in-chief and I’m very glad the his airoplane protects your mom. How? No one knows, but since mom feels protected that’s the important thing. And as far as people not telling him things in person, they’ve learned not to since he usually has them arrested. Last point, if you’re going to worship someone, at least learn to spell their name correctly.
dave says
Yeah i dont worship anyone but God, so dont bring up religion.And the color of my sky is Red ,white and Blue the color of my great nation.Rex parris is the best Mayor our city has had,and by the way,I never new that airplane was spelled Airoplane.
Local Boy says
Another myopic comment by a follower of the King, come on Dave get a clue, I bet you even follow your leader when he states he is against Walmart but approves a 5th across from QHHS. People like yourself need to wake up-King Rex has a agenda that does not include us, meaning the people of the AV Lancaster or any other city. His master plan is to make the big bucks as he has, and any roadblock from his criminal trials he will double dip his boundaries as Lawyer and Mayor to further his interest…Dave his interest is on $$$, it so clarvoiyant that any person with intelliegence could easily figure this CROOOKEED LAWYER OUT. Its his way or the highway, not he wants to give licenses to illegals, the ones he will Section 8 rent into his rental properties, which will get him to his desired residence in his master plan…..State Senator next, Baptisim for ALL AMERICANS, MORE greed lining his crooked ass pockets, arrogance and plain disgrace as a elected representative. Rex its so obvious when you dont respond to your community…RIP Rex, how bout standing up for the citizens get rid of the plane, no WALMARTS, & no REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX.
Alex says
ARE YOU FLIPPING JOKING?!?! They are ILLEGAL. They should NOT get a license. They should get out and come back LEGALLY then get a license. LIKE THE REST OF US!
Notagain!!!! says
DEAR MR PERRIS,,,, WUT YU TAKEN ABOUT “WILLIS”
YU WANT TO GIVE WUT AN WHO LICENSE? ARE YA KRAZZZY!!!! WHY NOT FOCUS ON HOW TO REDUCE CRIME IN YO CITY! FOCUS ON THE SECTION 8 PARTICIPANTS WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM, FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE ABUSING EBT N FOOOOD STAMPS! FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WHO FAKE THAT THERE DISABLE FOR LIFE AN GETTING A CHK FROM THE COUNTY AN THERE ONLY IN THERE 20’s!!!FOCUS ON THE PEIVATE INVESTORS WHO DON’T EVEN LIVE UP HERE AN BUY CHEAP HOMES TO RENT TO SCUMBAGS!!!! SO MR MAYORRRRR! THERES MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAN ISSUING DRIVING LICENSE!!! FOCUS ON HOW TO ELIMINATE YO ANNOYING TOY PLANE!!!
Forward says
” … PEIVATE(sic) INVESTORS WHO DON’T EVEN LIVE UP HERE AN BUY CHEAP HOMES TO RENT TO SCUMBAGS!!!!”
I’ve been researching Parcel tax initiatives lately – looks like the cities in the AV could benefit from something like this, as it would certainly raise much needed revenue from the dead-beat absentee landlords in this area.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Parcel_tax_elections_in_California
Forewarned says
“The Californian immigration debate is full of political posturing and extreme ideology and many people cannot bring themselves to see that as a practical matter….” To late for your posturing Rex, the Dems have total control of California. Now watch it sink into the ocean.
William says
Brown managed to fix the budget ol’ Arnold the Womanizer left behind while he was schtupping the maid. That’s yer Arnold.
Between Arnold and W, California really got screwed. I bet you voted for both both times.
Forewarned says
Arnold was a RINO. He was married to a Kennedy! Do you think he listened or took any advice from his wife Maria? I bet he did! As for being a womanizer, I bet you voted for Perjury Clinton both times. That’s yer Bill.
Forward says
” He was married to a Kennedy”!
So, why didn’t conservatives take that into consideration while they were busy circulating petitions to dump Gray Davis? I can still smell the exhaust fumes from the parade of Cons’ SUV’s who raced into the fairgrounds to support their HERO.
As usual, instead of going after ENRON, that tanked the CA economy – you all went after the bean-counter who saw it coming…….
William says
So, Forewarned. Did you you vote for Arnold and W both times?
You neglected to answer.
I didn’t vote for Clinton either time. Shows how little you know about, well, just about anything.
But, keep typing. It keeps you out of real trouble.
Forewarned says
@William..You should do some soul-searching. Maybe you’ll find one. Don’t hate me cause you ain’t me.
Thomas says
Brown fixed the budget by releasing 40 thousand inmates and raising sales tax. The correct way to fix the budget is cut programs tbe state can’t afford.
William says
Didn’t the Court make him release those prisoners?
William says
Sorry, Forewarned, but I dislike stupidity and, well, you fit the bill more than most.
I’m guessing you voted for Bush, Arnold, Mccain, and Romney and are still a birther.
That’s why you are so upset with the way things are. I’d say you are hopping mad and live a joyless,loveless existence judging from your posts.
You’ve got 4 more years to go. Enjoy your anger, and if you don’t think your own comments reek of ‘hatred’ for the President, then you aren’t paying much attention.
Turd Ferguson says
Why is Mayor Paris saying this now?Why is Mayor Paris saying this now?I will tell you why.I will tell you why.To get our minds off the $90,000.00 a month we spend on LEAPS!To get our minds off the $90,000.00 a month we spend on LEAPS.What a waste of tax payer money.What a waste of tax payer money.We have a heliocopter when we need one.We have a heliocopter when we need one.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.Yes to more sherriffs.Yes to more sherriffs.More boots on the ground.More boots on the ground.
Elliot says
You forgot Mayor [removed] wants to get your mind off the $$ for the turn-around that wasn’t built, the infrastructure $$ for roads wasted on the “BLVD” no one goes to with its chirping fake birds, the lawsuits he got us into for things he latter gave up on, for his city clerk running expensive elections the county registrar could do for less money and….why bother going on. His cult church will make certain nothing changes.
J. Ripper says
Fact: you do not have to own a vehicle in order to get a drivers license.
Fact: the requirement to carry insurance runs with vehicle registration, not driver license issuance.
Fact: issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens (“undocumented immigrants”) will not improve the insurance situation. It will only ensure that they passed the DMV test, either honestly or by cheating, same as it does for all the licensed drivers currently on the road.
And as many have already pointed out, these people are not going to line up for drivers licenses just because they’re allowed to.
Michael Rives says
When I rode the Metro bus when I lived down below,I noticed that my fellow riders in my 90% Hispanic area always paid the cash fare. They did not want any documentation even though it was impossible to trace the pass. Do you really think illegal aliens are going to get a CDL or sign up for Obamacare? I don’t think so. They will continue to drive and go to the ER’s at the hospitals as they do now. If you want law biding people, you have to get these people to register as aliens or apply for citizenship, then you can give the ‘privileges’ of citizenship.
sikntired says
I think you are probably correct about that, many will be suspicious and prefer to fly under the radar.
dave says
After your article above ,Maybe do think thats why you didnt get elected
dave says
And if are honorable Mayor runs for office again i will vote for him again,Hes the best Mayor Lancaster ca has had
dave says
Yeah im Hispanic and my dad was a korean war vet,Remember when in the constitution everyman is equel i guess not after your article
Michael Rives says
As a candidate for Congress, I got a branch social security office for my overwhelming hispanic district. As a candidate for the state assembly, I adovocated a DMV office for the community which we got after the election. Be careful to whom you address of being against a special group of people!
dave says
Boy did your comments sure change,Yeah keep your Political plans on Facebook not on the AvTimes.This site is for comments,Not for people running for office,Dont you ever talk about my people going to ER Rooms,What would you do if you were in there shoes? You no what i could careless about your comments.Yeah im tired of your comments on how you would run thigs
JM says
1. A mayor does not have the power to change state laws. They can only voice their opinions, concerns, suggestions, and stupidity (in Rex’s case) to the uppers. So although Rex thinks he’s God and can do whatever he wants…he can’t, especially when it comes to state laws. Plain and simple.
2. How does giving someone a license make them a safer/better driver on the road? I know people (legal, US citizens of course) who have a license that should have never been given one in the first place.
3. Illegals just need to be sent back to whatever country they came from. If you can’t come here legally i.e. you apply for citizenship, have a working visa, or greencard, then you shouldn’t be here period. If you can’t learn to read, write, and speak English then you shouldn’t be here. I shouldn’t have to learn another language to accommodate you. I shouldn’t have to be bilingual to get a job (thankfully that’s not the case at my employer but I know it is at many others). Also I shouldn’t have to work my a$$ off only to struggle to pay my bills and rack up student loans for a higher education just so that illegals can enjoy a free ride.
Quigley says
Thank you JM….you are right on!
Sgt.Al says
Time to give Rex the boot. There was at a time when he would at least give some of his moronic remarks some thought. He no longer does even that. My 4 year old grandson has more thought restraint. His love for his voice is emberassing.
William says
They could make a modern day version of Les Misérables in Lancaster, couldn’t they?
Matt K. says
I agree with Rex and Denise on this. I’m all for giving driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants, but from another standpoint.
Doing so will also open the door to requiring them to carry auto insurance. At that point, the proverbial camel’s nose will be well under the tent and we can proceed further by going after them for taxes owed to the state and begin collecting on those.
In order for the California state budget to remain solvent, and fairly so, we’ve got to collect taxes from undocumented immigrants who are availing themselves of our health, welfare and public education institutions.
If they don’t want to pay taxes, they’ll face the same scrutiny and penalties as a U.S. Citizen who refuses to pay taxes as well. If they don’t want to face the music, they’ll either buckle down and pay taxes or they’ll go back to wherever they came from.
Either way, the problem is solved.
Uncle Tom says
Giving them a drivers licence will allow them to acquire insurance, since to get insurance I believe you need a valid licence! Getting a licence doesn’t require them to get insurance, just driving in the state handles that requirement all on its own, and its obvious they don’t give two ishs about that law, so why bother now? So will allowing illegals to get a CDL help? Maybe a little, for those that want to stay and like the US. But I would figure the majority would continue to go without and save the money, and if they get in an accident, they just run like they normally do. Its worked so far, why change it?
Giving them a CDL will not change whether they pay taxes or not. They will continue to get their pay ‘under the table’, pay cash where they can and its cheaper because both sides of the sale want to avoid taxes.
This will not solve anything, and will be just another handout to those breaking the law that says ‘Hey, its ok, come on over, use all of our resources!’.
I’m always told, ‘They just want to live a good life, and they feel they can do that over here in the US.’ My reply, ‘I work, I pay into the system, and I expect that system to help me and my family when the time comes. But if the system is overworked, overused, overcrowded by those not paying into it, then their “good life” is infringing on mine. I feel for them, I really do, but we can’t give handouts to everybody. Support the system, follow the rules, or GTFO.”
Johny Chingas says
Let’s make this conversation clear, please?
You are assuming that WE DON’T Pay TAXES?
OK.. Working for a very recognized Body Shop in West Palmdale for the last 12 years..Do yo think that I am EXEMPT from Federal and STATE deductions on my Paycheck?
Do you think that that WE (My family of four) are EXEMPT from paying SALES TAX when we go out to Restaurants, Shopping, Groceries just by telling the Cashier that I am an Illegal Immigrant?
Do you think that I was EXEMPT from SALES TAX when we purchased our two New Vehicles, and paying the yearly DMV Renewal fees?
I hope this help EVERYONE that has the WRONG idea that WE (The Illegal Immigrants) don’t pay TAXES, and WE Depend on SOCIAL SERVICES to survive in this Country.
Mark Fisk says
Well Johny, You say you are an illegal immigrant. if this is the case I would have to ask who’s social security number are you using to aquire that weekly paycheck? if you say its your number, how were able to obtain it legally?
Johny Chingas says
Sure, I have nothing to hide.. But I just noticed that you have lack or knowledge in History about Illegal Immigrants. You are like many others who just like that…. Open their mouths without any facts.
I received my Social Security Card from the SS Office in Northridge, CA.back in 1985, by showing just my Drivers License.
* How did I get the Driver License? From the DMV Offices in Northridge, Ca. by showing just my Birth Cerificate.
Simple as that. Yes, back in 1987.
My Daughter, and my son are U.S. Citizens.
I never have had the need to become one (U.S Citizen).
My SS Number is still 100% vailid.
I am sorry if I hurt your feelings.
mark fisk says
feelings not hurt at all. but if you like the freedom and all the perks of this country why not become a citizen.
Mike Dee says
Sounds like his highness would rather run honest law abiding citizens out of there and keep the illegals handy to serve him. Lancaster was going down the drain before he was mayor, now there is NO WAY IN HELL I would ever return, despite having family in the valley….he is a joke, always has been, always will. Licensing them won’t work, they don’t need them or insurance. It’s easy to get a car, all they need is one legal family member here, that’s whose name the car is in anyway. They get insurance for a month a year to get the card for registration then stop paying. Why are people so dumb to not know the scam…nothing will change WE will always foot the bill for them, after all, this is the land of the free(handouts for everyone other than citizens). How about we say screw it, head south and take over Mexico or north to Canada, let them have what’s left of the US and reestablish a new sovereign state…ha!
Sig Sauer says
So we give them a drivers license. Next we will be paying for their auto insurance. Might as well seems like we pay for everything else. Just one more reason to get out of this screwed up state.
Gladys says
Look for Insurance Companies with the EBT sign in the front window.
William says
Gladys, you’re too funny. But, you might be serious.
AVreader says
Will be for sure :0) Like most liquor stores now have EBT sign, which 10 years ago never allowed food-stamp!
Armen Ians says
Bottom Line Rex Parris is doing an about face because its good for business. Illegal immigrants will eb regulated, pay fees (insurance), purchase goods (cars/gas/maintenance services/etc), and beceome more mobile. Meaning an illegal that can move about freely and legally can also spend more freely and legally.
Politicians, worshipping who…….Money. Thats why mechanisms to safeguard/regulate money are needed. :)
IJS says
We already give them Public Assistance for breaking the LAW, We already give them Money for Food, for breaking the LAW, We already give them Health Insurance for breaking the LAW.. So why not give them a license for breaking the LAW…
So you maybe asking yourself how are they breaking the LAW… Newsflash.. There not suppose to be here in the first place. If I rob a bank are they gonna let me keep the money? I highly doubt it..
It’s to much already… hard working people can’t get half the things these law breakers get..it’s sickening..
In Essence were telling them even though you have broken the law we will reward you for that and make things even better for you. Even though people who are here legally cant get the thing you can.
We can’t even get jobs & why is that because the illegals have that too…
Michelle says
I couldn’t believe it when I saw this headline, I was like “What? Parris, giving licences to immigrants? That can’t be right!” Also I had no idea that a city mayor had the power to change the state laws, I mean isn’t that the Governor’s job?
On paper, this looks like a good idea, but in reality, I don’t think this is gonna work. As some said above, why would the immigrants risk deportation by leaving a paper trail?
And another thing, perhaps our majesty King Rex should be focusing more on providing jobs for the rest of us who have the education but no experience so that we can actually afford to pay for our insurance, especially now that I was informed by the above comments that we’ll be stuck with the bill if we get hit by an uninsured driver.
John luciano says
That is bull[removed]! What is this city coming too..
Decision made! I’m leaving Lancaster!
Dense_Latanzi says
I hate to say it, but on this one, the mayor is right, and not just for the reasons stated. Have you ever been hit by an unlicensed, uninsured driver? My husband was, and he was injured, and it cost us a boatload because there was no one to collect from. Sure, the driver got a ticket for driving unlicensed, driving uninsured, and causing an accident, but we were the ones who paid for the accident, and my guess is since the other driver wasn’t licensed and there was nothing to suspend if they didn’t pay their ticket, they didn’t pay that either.
Yes, allow them to get licenses, so we know they can at least pass a driving test, written and oral. Allow them to get insurance, so when they hit someone, the victim in the crash isn’t left with the bill.
Mayor Parris, if he reads this, will probably fall off his chair when he reads my comment, but he’s got it right.
Letlow says
Thank you! Wish I could have articulated the point as well as you. LIKE! LIKE! LIKE!
Chris French says
Using you logic though there should be no accidents and if there is one you are guaranteed reimbursement. None of this guarantees you anything. If the the driver that hit you was cited then you know who to go after. You don’t pay your ticket it goes to warrant. I’m sorry to say the reason you got left holding the bag is because you let them. YOU LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. The same as the pompous ass mayor is doing letting them get away with it. ENFORCE THE LAW ENFORCE THE LAW.
Dense_Latanzi says
I let them?? Seriously? We sued them? Who paid for that? Oh yes, my insurance company because they had nothing to collect from. They had no insurance. They owned no property. They had no wages that could be attached.
So, no, I didn’t “let them” do anything. Everyone did what they had to do. The Sheriff’s cited them, my husband, after getting out of the HOSPITAL, found out that he couldn’t even get close to what his vehicle was worth, even though we had uninsured motorist coverage and we were going to be left holding the bag.
Blaming the people that get hit by unlicensed drivers has got to be the stupidest way to make an argument I’ve ever seen. No one asked our permission if they could sideswipe our vehicle, causing a rollover collision that almost cost my husband his eye.
Chris French says
And giving them a drivers license would make it all better. Nothing to do with nothing.
Forward says
So true. How can anyone ‘sue’ or ‘go after them’ if they have absolutely no documentation, or traceable property, job, income – nothing?!
Parris is right -ALL the laws that are on the books should apply to EVERYONE who is driving on our roads, including registered vehicles AND insurance.
Dense_Latanzi says
^^^^^Thank you! It should also be said that we WERE among the lucky ones that get hit by the unlicensed and/or uninsured too because we DID have a lot of insurance on the vehicle that was demolished in this accident, so we just ended up eating about $10,000 in property damage, plus our deductible, because, it doesn’t really matter after an accident what your car is worth, the insurance company on your uninsured policy is going to fight you tooth and nail to only pay what you owe on it, or the value that they give it, which doesn’t resemble reality.
A lot of drivers only carry liability or enhanced liability. They get hit, they lose everything. It’s horrible.
J. Ripper says
The burning question for me: Do you really mean to list your username as “Dense” Latanzi?
John luciano says
You couldn’t say it better…
SJGranai says
I pay a mere $60 extra a year to cover uninsured motorists. It is a coverage I will NEVER go without.
Traci says
Let me get this straight….you won’t allow a 1% MC Club to have there annual convention in Lancaster, but you want an illegal to have a driver’s license? Allowing an illegal to get a driver’s license isn’t going to cut down on fatal crashes. Even if they were to get a license, how are you going to enforce them to have insurance? The only way to solve that problem is to stop them from getting behind the wheel of a car or motorcycle! Mr. Mayor, do your job of running the city and allow the sheriff’s department and CHP to do their job. BTW, Mr Mayor, in order to get a driver’s license in another country, you have to either be a CITIZEN or be in the military with orders and even then there are a lot of rules and regulations that have to be followed. If you are interested in running bigger issues then maybe it is time for you to step down as mayor and run for congress or a state position.
Forward says
” … Even if they were to get a license, how are you going to enforce them to have insurance? ”
The same way they enforce it on everyone else! Why is this a problem?
If you don’t have proof of insurance for your vehicle, your car isn’t registered. You drive around without a registration sticker, the cops run your plate and pull you over.
What better way to **finally** get the real #’s on how many illegals are driving around. If they don’t pass the driving test, they don’t get a license! No brainer!
Obviously, stopping/or preventing them from getting behind the wheel of a car or motorcycle hasn’t worked, has it?
Gladys says
I think he should run for President of the World.
William says
Oh, Glady, I gotta [Like] your comment.
DOOg says
Maybe he knows it will make more accidents and he will have more Law sues to make money on.
Traci says
That is probably where this is all coming from!
William says
Ol’ Rex needs adult supervision. He just can’t help running off at the mouth and his tongue is loose at both ends.
Chris French says
“The legal ability or inability to obtain a driver’s license does not affect whether an immigrant enters the U.S. or not.” coupled with free education – free health care – free food, you are dead wrong. WRONG! Start enforcing the laws and stop aiding and abetting criminals. Just once I would like to see someone in public office enforce the law instead of breaking it or helping other to break it. Posturing nothing more than posturing plain and simple.
Letlow says
There is no way to deport the more than 2 million (many of them taxpaying) illegal immigrants in CA. So why even act like that is a remote possibility??
Time to start dealing with reality and giving the law abiding ones the access to the services that their tax dollars are paying for!
really says
Define taxpaying…Are you reffering to sales tax? Because Income and payroll tax are assessed by social security number. So if they have a job most likely they are being paid under the table or have stolen a social security number. I think that those who have had their identity or their childs identity stolen would say they are not law abiding taxpayers
Letlow says
Old but timely article that clears it up perfectly.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-04-10-immigrantstaxes_N.htm
really says
This clears up nothing…. When you do your taxes do you just put Mr Letlow? How do you get hired without a social?
Chris French says
If we stop making it so damn easy for them to live here we won’t need to deport them. Stop giving them free education – stop giving them free food – stop giving them free medical. Go back and re-read my previous comment I said nothing about deportation. Is this a land of laws or law breakers? LAW ABIDING? Law abiding “ones” aren’t here illegally.
Barbara Wright says
I’m missing something here. How is licensing illegal immigrants going to cut down on fatal crashes and lower the amount of money the state pays for uninsured motorists injured in accidents? As it is, proof of insurance is not checked anyway. If the amount of damage is not enough law enforcement does not come to the scene. My husband has had 2 accidents involving people without insurance and nothing happened to those drivers. What is the incentive for these people to apply for a driver’s license or even then buy auto insurance? They are in this state illegally in the first place. Why would they take the chance of getting deported by applying for a driver’s license when they can drive without one? I also want to know why the state is paying for the medical bills of these uninsured when they are involved in an accident? I have full coverage and pay a lot of money every year to cover my butt in case one of these people happen to run into me and then on top of that I have to pay for them to get medical attention? Come on, Mr. Parris. I thought you were a conservative. This makes absolutely no sense.
John luciano says
I thought he was too but it’s Obvious by his thoughts and actions..
R.W says
Quote: “political posturing and extreme ideology…”
The RexFuhrer should be right at home…
Sgt.Al says
Amazing! Rex appears to have more positions than the Kama Sutra.
sikntired says
Hahaha-you got.that right buddy-as Mr Dylan sàid many years ago, regarding politicians –
Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote He’s a-runnin’ for office on the ballot note He’s out there preachin’ in front of the steeple Tellin’ me he loves all kinds-a people (He’s eatin’ bagels He’s eatin’ pizza He’s eatin’ chitlins)
How disingenuous of Mr Parris but saw this coming when his pal lost to Steve Fox.
Forward says
Parris could be pandering to the ‘Left’, after all aren’t Conservatives reviewing their platforms … or at least trying to figure out what the heck they stand for??
Hating illegals certainly hasn’t gotten them in the State House, it’s only made them appear to be hypocrites, especially with their silence during the years of prosperity, enhanced by plenty of cheap labor.
sikntired says
I dunno, how do you spell “[removed]”, that word for cat that
will probably be censored.
Someone should remind him – no guts, no glory.