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33 comments for "The RIFT… (Thoughts?)"

  1. This is for the whining republicans and tea partiers. We are sick of your BS.

    Recessions Since 1950 and Party in WH at Onset

    Jul 1953 – May 1954 Republican
    Aug 1957 – Apr 1958 Republican
    Apr 1960 – Feb 1961 Republican
    Dec 1969 – Nov 1970 Republican
    Nov 1973 – Mar 1975 Republican
    Jan 1980 – July 1980 Democrat
    Jul 1981 – Nov 1982 Republican
    Jul 1990 – Mar 1991 Republican
    Mar 2001 – Nov 2001 Republican
    Dec 2007- Jun 2009 Republican

    There have been 22 recessions since 1900.
    16 have started under Republican leadership, 6 under Democrat leadership and the 2 worst 1929 and now when Repubs had control of WH and congress for more than 8 years(the only times in history)
    http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

    Given repub economic history, the 2 largest depressions in our history, the only 2 times they have had control of congress and WH for more than 8 years.. why does anyone listen to them on economics, when they never show supporting economic data.. just beliefs.”

    I saw this on Huffington Post. If you don’t want to believe it, let’s hear your ‘factoids’. Just go to your [removed] and have him retrieve them for ya.

    • What? No replies. I guess you republicans can’t come up with your own ‘facts’.

    • is there anyone more despicable in the entire Antelope Valley than Rex Parris?

      He is causing more damage than all the Section 8 fraudsters put together but they get all the bad press. He deserves his share.

  5. What the young pepole of the AV need is a history lesson in the shenagins of what has gone on over the years. Why are there two city’s? Who is Frank Visco? Who is Jim Gilly? How are they associated? What was Visco’s involvement with the AV Hospital’s pension fund? Who owns the property on L and 10th West? Who paid for the creek improvements on that property? Who are the Sileos and who did the hit mailers that targeted his nationality? Who owned the property that is now the fairgrounds? Who was the planning commisssioner who sold the property on L and 60th and make a lot of money and then was part of the vote to change it to commercial property? Who owns the company that makes the eye in the sky? Who paid for the infrastructure to go all the way out to Lancaster Baptist? Why are Lancaster elections held in April when all other city’s have elections in November? Why are ballots kept at Lancaster city hall? Who is John Mayfield and why was he attacked by hit mailers from Lancaster? Did R. Rex Parris practice law in Bakersfield? What happened? Who bought the old McMahan’s furniture building? Was is legally bought? Why was Jonathan Ervin removed from the Planning Commission? How much did Wal-Mart donate to the Parris campaign? What happened to the former leader of the Cedar St. theater? What was the settlement between David Abber and R. Rex Parris? Who said he was building a Christian community in Lancaster? How many bids were taken for the eye in the sky? Why is there a 10 year contract for the eye in the sky? What is Miracle Star and why are they suing Lancaster? What is the history of Ecolution? Who was behind the hit mailers against Ken Mann? Who was Bob Lasalla? Why was he paid almost a million dollars to leave?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    • I would definitely enjoy reading the answer to every one of those questions…I don’t mind reading an essay.

      • Dittos. I already know the answers to about half of those questions, but I’d love to hear the other answers, too!

    • If you have lived here long enough you can pretty much figure out most of the answers to those questions! Lancaster is the most crooked city I have ever lived in.

      • What gets me, is that people like the ones in the article really, Really, REALLY think that what’s good for them personally is good for the city. The Bush Crime Family had the same mentality.

        It’s a mental disturbance made even more enticing with the addition of $$$$$$$s.

      • People should shower every time they come back from a trip to Lancaster. So slimy. Sooooooooooo slimy.

  6. Besides emotions, the logical reason for the merging of these two “towns” is more revenue from the county. The county determines revenue sharing by the population of the city. If the two cities merge then the citizens of the AV would get back MORE of their taxpayer dollars in public works projects, etc. SO from a logical stand point it makes sense. But the second you bring emotions into it, the picture becomes blurry…

  7. It would be great if the two cities became one… Palmdale needs more massage parlors and street gangs and Lancaster needs better shopping!

  8. The two city’s cant merge. If they did then where would the lancaster residence people go to get away from Rex and his control freak buddies. And most from Palmdale would agree that Rex should keep his nose out of others business.

  9. I feel that this region is missing a council of government. We pay twice for the same thing only because of our bias towards each other.I feel that many city departments should be regional. Example besides having tow separate sheriff contracts why not create a metropolitan police agency like Las Vegas has same with fire. Merging the cities is a terrible idea both have they re unique history and culture. Palmdale leans more to the left politically while Lancaster leans more to the right. I recently moved back from the IE and I can tell Riverside didnt have beef with other cities in the region and vice versa. On the contrary. All the IE cities are supporting Ontario in their case against LA for ONT. Yet here we have an empty airport that if both cities worked together more could be done for it

    • I lived in Riverside from the time I was 5 till the time I was 24 only moved up here to the AV because of family matters. I can honestly say that I don’t remember seeing the local government in the news as often as I do the local governments here in the AV, not to mention there was no cross city tensions at least none outside of the school sports teams and JROTC units and that was always friendly.

  10. I am not sure that having these two cities merge will do anything but foster resentment.

    • Please accept my apologies. This comment was intended to be in response to sickofitall’s comment below.

  11. I have no problem with the two cities becoming one but we’d need a new mayor, preferably younger and more up with the times. A mayor that is for the people, not themselves. We’d also need all new backup staff. In other words,we need an election and people who are for the young. We need places for teenagers to have fun, be useful and that also means the have to follow a curfew. Parents need to be more responsible for what their kids are doing. My children are adults but if they weren’t they wouldn’t dress the way they do today and their cussing…slap across the mouth. What young people are today, they will be tomorrow. So let’s all come together.

  12. Bigger aint better.just ask LASD. Bigger puts the politicians farther away from the people. having 3 city’s makes more sense.

  13. The problem is with Parris and his constant attacks on Palmdale & Ledford. On the one hand he literally attacks the Palmdale Mayor and City, while demanding reconciliation with the other hand.

    The most effective things Parris could do to start the healing process would be to drop the court case(s) against Palmdale, apologize publicly for his various insults and attacks upon Ledford, then STOP HIS B.S. ATTACKS on a near daily basis.

    IF Parris could overcome his mighty ego to do this, THEN there might be a reasonable chance for reconciliation between the cities.

    The only other option is up to the voters in Lancaster to get rid of their embarrassment of a Mayor.

    • Like! I am a Palmdale native, yes, Palmdale NATIVE, and I’m on the other side of 50. I know a lot of people think that’s crazy that I have lived here this long, but I love the clean air, relatively low crime, the mountains, and the feel of a small town. There has always been a rift between the cities, trying to outbid each other for commerce and such, and it saddens me that Parris is trying to tie up Palmdale’s funds to fight against him, all while saying it is not a conflict of interest. YES IT IS! Money used in the fight between Palmdale and Lancaster could be used to enhance parks, bikeways, and create more fun and less expensive things for our youth. Let’s face it, we live in a city that has a lot of poverty, and we read about youths attacking old people, yet we have nothing to show for support of these young people. What are you doing for the youth except eyeing them as suspicious? Create a place where they can build self-confidence and self-esteem and expect them to go well. We will get what we expect. If we expect nothing and give nothing, we will get nothing.

  14. Merging the two cities would save money in that there’d only be 1 mayor to pay as well as the staff involved to run the city. I cannot stand the rift as it is counter-productive and causes residents to act up against one another. None of the cities are on sacred ground; it’s still the same desert sand, etc. Lancaster and Palmdale are in need of real leadership. We all need new and younger leaders.

  15. the best thing is for Rex to mind his own business and worry about his own city and leave palmdale and santa clarita alone

  16. The best way out of this mess is to turn Palmdale and Lancaster into a new city. Take a poll and name it what the majority wants. Ledford and Parris, cannot run for mayor for 6-8 years after the cities merge. Let them be involved with the city, just not the mayor. Like them or not, they have both done things to grow and protect these cities. This he said/he said crap isn’t doing anyone any good.

    • I agree as it is so unethical and does not serve the good of the citizens to have the two city mayor’s against each other. They (Ledford and Parrris) are a poor example to the young people in this area. Neither city is better than the other and a lot of money would be saved just having 1 mayor, etc.