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Readers speak out 8.24.12‘Readers Speak Out!’ is your chance to sound off on ongoing community and political issues around the Antelope Valley that have not been covered by The AV Times.

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  1. Hi! This post could not be written any better! Reading this
    post reminds me of my old room mate! He always kept talking
    about this. I will forward this write-up to him.
    Fairly certain he will have a good read. Thanks for sharing!

  3. Here’s one for you… After you click on the link read all the comments made about Rex below it. Funny as hell.

  5. ‘The United States of Amnesia’: Nicholas Wrathall’s new documentary is a wholly entertaining portrait of Gore Vidal and his political views.

  6. This bitter and prolonged dissension between the Democrats and Republicans is tearing our society apart. It is only a reflection of what we are doing to ourselves.

  7. I belong to a military family that came to Edwards in the 1950’s, and I know there is greatness in Lancaster, Palmdale and the surrounding areas. I am thankful and grateful to be a part of the history of the Antelope Valley. I love my Antelope Valley.

  8. A.V., we all agree that Mayor Parris and the little Parriss, have done some disturbing things on many levels. Can we all join together to stop this from continuing. No matter your thinking on any other issues, if you live in Palmdale, we need your support and let’s elect not a lil Rex. If we put energy, this something we can do. This will take lots of groups joining together with this one and only goal??? So far we’ve been divided and conquered, anyone else with me?

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      • Cause he has no spine. You ever step inside one of the Legion buildings to state your problems Rex?

    • WHAT A YELLOWED BELLIED WUSS! SUING THE AMERICAN LEGION IS HE. JUST GIVE ME ONE BOOT CAMP WITH THAT SISSY AND THAT COMMIE LOVING ANTI AMERICAN WILL WISH HE MESSED WITH SOMEONE OTHER THAN OUR NATIONS FINEST. YOU ARE A DISGUSTING COAGULATION OF FLESH MAYOR.

      • @CAP’N
        I hope that event is televised. He just gets getting lower and lower. God, what’s it gonna be next, foreclosing an orphanage or using eminent domain on a convent?

  11. Mud slinging politicians and we only have ourselves to blame. Sad commentary on our society. Seeing how politicians behave is only looking at a mirror image of ourselves.

  12. “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams——-When self-government is abandoned for self-serving opportunism, we should expect a decline in the health of the nation. Politics will indeed become dirty, and infect all of us with its poison.

  13. Democrats vs. Republicans, Lancaster vs. Palmdale: This us verses them mentality only divides us. We don’t need outside forces to destroy us, because we will do it to ourselves.

    • @bird

      Well, birdie, if you gave anything a moment’s thought…………….

      So, I guess the Allies during WWII were equally to blame for the War as Germany, Italy and Japan, by your shallow thinking.

      You blame the the ones attacked equally to the attackers. In your world, rapists and rape victims are equally to blame.

      Who started the ‘war’ between Lancaster and Palmdale…oh, about the time Rex Parris became mayor? Who, birdie? Who?

      Who met with others the day President Obama was being inaugurated to make him ‘a 1 term president’ and then did everything they could to obstruct anything he supported EVEN IF IT WAS THEIR IDEA? Who, birdie?

      Y’know, birdie. Some ‘birds’ such as parrots have small brains but they are good at repeating things they’ve heard. You named yourself well.

      Carry on and you’ll get a cracker.

      • William- And by your reasoning we never should have gotten to WWII. We’d all be speaking German or Japanese if it were up to you back then. Thank God the U.S.A. had huevos back then. Because of libs, we don’t have them these days…it’s just a matter of time until “we” (the majority here….ie: Liberals) fold and the muslims take over. I’ll go down fighting, but you’ll cower in the bathroom trying to call the cops, who will be busy protecting their own families and won’t have time for you. I’ll be gone, because my master plan is to end up in New Zealand…the last good country that wil be left. I know that your response will be “good riddance”….but we all know the real reason you say you like Obama, and you’ll NEVER say anything bad about him or disagree with him. And don’t tell me you’re Asian…

        • @Rocky
          How on earth couild you get my comment so backward? Sheesh.

          The point was that bird was comparing the aggressor in a fight with the one being attacked as though they were equal. The aggressor in WWII was Germany et al and the United States was responding appropriately to the threat under DEMOCRAT FDR.

          Then, after you totally misinterpreted my comment, you went off on it like a crazy person.

          Maybe you are.

          • I guess we won’t see Rocky for a while after he went nutso after he misread my comment. Really nutso. Really.

            And, he ended his rant with “And don’t tell me you’re Asia…” apropos nothing.

            Oh, wait. He’s moving to New Zealand. Oh, God is New Zealand really in for it? I thought they had very strict immigration regulations.

            Maybe, I should warn them.

          • @William, Rocky went bonkers. New Zealand isn’t is his cup of tea. My cousins live there. At least he’ll leave here. I guess he wants to get somewhere with government healthcare and gun control??? And lots of sheep and beer?

  14. Residents of the A.V., You are an immigrant to America or you’re an American Indian. Therefore you have no more rights, than the rest of us. By coming here and benefiting, you joined a contract with America and the rest of us. You drove on our roads, bridges and took full advantage of the great things about America, now you decided you got yours so now everyone else is left behind and you are trying to change the fabric of America. You don’t like it go back, you are equal to the rest of us here. If you are anti government and pledge to the Gadsden Flag before our flag, LEAVE domestic terrorists. This is our country, we love it above all, you don’t, leave, we don’t need anymore unpatriotic traitors…. Tim McVeigh, The Miller’s, Clive Bundy. You won’t get away with our country.

    • @Jason, congratulations on being the one true American as a native Indian. I totally respect you and your family. I didn’t personally attack, I simply asked a question? Great with agreement on evolution. Before I understood you were native American, I thought you didn’t understand everybody in America is from somewhere, not you want of course because you’re a native American. I have no idea about to you and the animals, porn or whatever. I support the USA first and if you don’t don’t, but at least don’t be a hypocrite and act like a patriot. Patriots, are Americans first not just the leaders they voted for, you or anyone who is undermining our government, needs to hear we’re done listening to your hair is on fire. Anymore committees or invading countries needs to pay for before we do it. I know you’re born the seventies, babies born in Plymouth rock, are children of immigrants? Anything I say, if the shoe fits, wear it, I see what your thinking. Do you love America more than ideology? Yes. Or No. Not with conditions just Yes.

      • @Jason, we don’t think the same. Example; you want to continue the Benghzi thing. I don’t, because I feel enough is enough. A this point nothing happened or these committees are really terrible at investigating. It’s irrational, from the President wasn’t born here to crazy on steroids. Somehow because I disagree with you, I’m attacking you? If you started thinking that America was doomed the day President Obama was elected and tried to make that happen by closing down the government, paralyzing America and soooo much more. That’s unpatriotic to me, not because you can’t disagree, because of the methods used against our government, the moral compass is gone from the Grumpy Old People. Pull out one word to go out on a tangent. The question is do you love America enough to help or are supporting paralyzing the government? The GOP continues to attempt to paralyze America, that’s the bottom line.

      • Excuse me but I was born in Camden Ny, My birth mother was born in Philadelphia PA, that takes me back about 90 years and her family is from Pennsylvania prior to her birth so what does that make me in your opinion an immigrant?
        My son’s father is 3rd generation American what does that make him? His grandparents immigrated from Japan to Hawaii, he was born in Hawaii, and still lived there when Hawaii became a state, prior to that it was a territory, that still made him an American. I am as American as anyone and probably more so than some. Our citizenship was fine with the Dept of the Army for our son to serve his country. I am tired of seeing Asian/American,and so forth, If you are an American citizen by birth or by being sworn in then you are an AMERICAN, you give up that other country when you become an American or when we start supporting you.

        • @Soapbox Journal, as you said 3 generations back before that at some point your family members immigrated here, if your family arrived at Plymouth rock, they came from somewhere unless your an American Indian. The story of America is founded on it being a melting pot of immigrants. You know about the Statue of Liberty? Sorry to give you are no better than me and I’m an immigrant too. No one ever told you everyone’s from somewhere. Because you’re here for whatever length of time, is that how you justify your thinking because you got here first? This clears up a lot.

        • @Soapbox Journal, okay your husband’s family immigrated from Japan, and he was born in Hawaii just like our President. Ted Cruz and John McCain weren’t born here, they are citizens. You know what America stands for?

  15. @Rocky you think it’s fine to call a team REDSKINS and then you call the Indians who oppose this are THIN SKINNED? NO I don’t think that’s Ok. I don’t care what you think because of what you think, I can’t respect your opinion, that is the exact clueless comments that drive us away, Grumpy Old People.

    • @Conservative, in your world poor citizens of the USA aren’t allowed to vote. So next maybe GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE won’t be allowed to vote? Most people won’t say stuff like that in public, Thx, some people think you don’t exist.. To, the Koch Bros, your poor? IF you don’t support America, leave, your family immigrated here just like the rest of us, love it or leave.

      • As long and the grumpy old people have money and are legal, have at it! It’s the poor people and illegals (especially the ones without ID) who need to worry about other things than voting…like not being a drain on the good people in the country.

        • @Conservative, usual tactic spend spend spend, then cut voter pool. The reason GOP is becoming an extreme regional party, is the instead of good policies, this now you’re reduced to this. That’s how Romney won, oops no, Whitman, no, Steve Cooley, oops, Fliorina, no, Cantor, no, Scott Brown, no. You stick with that plan. I can kick back watch you guys take each other out or1 more election cyle or bad case of the flu, Grumpy Old People, by bye. No one admits to being a republicans anymore cuz it’s embarrassing

        • @Conservative, NO one ever supports illegal voting.I agree with the American constitution regarding voting. The constitution has been good enough so far, I don’t want to change our constitutional rights. GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE, win fair and square. President Romney? How did that work for you? You’re familiy immigrated here just like the rest of us,. You are so hypocritical, heard of the Statue of liberty? You go back to your country, if this isn’t working for you. America Love it or Leave it

        • Drain on the country? I paid my taxes, I paid into my Social Security, I supported myself and asked for no assistance, even when my husband lost his job of 15 years, we kept on working and taking care of our son. Now that I am disabled and a little older I am getting my Social Security and taking care of myself. Yes I am older, I am not stupid, I do vote, I do still have a smile on my face even though I am in pain 100% of my day. This does not make me grumpy, or old or a drain on society. And I was born in Camden NJ, makes me a citizen by birth.

      • Red- Very good point’s….Your statement’s are well written. I s’ee what your s’aying. You’re comment’s are welcom’d. Many thank’s.

        • @Rocky, I really hope that was sincere and I do respect that you took time maybe see something different, Thanks.

    • @William, I suppose Rocky, Stoner, Jason, Eric and Tonto, all went to Mississippi, to help Senator Thad Cochran campaign, someone has count the farm animals before the indecent fun starts. Is this rope a dope? Everyday a new name and same old rehashed stuff. Rocky can’t keep it straight,

      • Red

        Does that mean you are going to go to Illinois and help Keith Farnham with his child pornography accounts? Or go up north and help Leland Yee with his corruption and gun running for campaign funds bribery?

        • @Jason, maybe when they become a sitting U.S.senator. Senator Thad Cochran is campaigning publicly about his indecent farm animals activities so I just asked if you were supporting him in this election. He likes sheep, sheeple you’re to get screwed, flee

        • @Jason, instead of responding to the sitting U.S. Senator who promotes bestiality. You attack me and try to stick some more crap to the wall. Who do you support the bestiality candidate or the the one who broke in the nursing home and committed voter fraud. You never just answer, if it’s a republican you start explaining others do same, we’re done being distracted. THE Grumpy Old People, republican Senator endorse bestiality, I don’t care what others do with their sheep, but if you’re a sitting Senator or supporter that’s something I want to be aware of. Bestiality yes or no? GRUMPYPEOPLE, I locked up my animals. I don’t my animals used in indecent experiences by any humans, GOP or otherwise.

          • Rsd thr only one attacking people here is you because we dont agree with you. You went after me talking about supporting bestiality, so dont try to play the victim role. No I dont support bestiality. Do you support corruption, gun trafficking and child porn? I sure dont support those things.

            And here we go with science and immigration again. Yes I believe in science and it doesnt matter where my family is from. They all came hundreds of years ago except the Native American line of my family.

          • I just hate it when people continue arguing without ME!

            I feel left out.

            Is the story of Adam and Eve true?

            Discuss.

        • @Jason, Do you believe in science? Where did your family immigrate from? These are yes or no questions? Remember that’s where we were?

          • @Red

            I’ve been over at Media Matters the last few days. There’s about a half dozen right wing nutjobs that simply love the abuse.

            They come and try to defend all the right wing scandals that Fox News keeping giving CPR to every hour. They never really win a debate especially when the provide links to Breitbart or the Heritage Foundation that turn out to be lies or someone’s blog but not really a ‘fact’ source.

            And, they keep coming back for more. I told one guy who keeps saying that he ‘owns’ the thread because he takes it in his direction off topic usually, that he ‘owns’ the thread in the same way that Sarah Palin ‘owned’ Saturday Night Live.

            Usually, the articles on Media Matters are videos and/or transcripts from conservative media outlets like the Drudge Report, Fox News, Limbaugh and the Devil himself, Mark Levin. The lies and distortions are fairly self-evident when MM puts the actual facts or the same person saying the opposite a while back.

            So, there isn’t much to debate other than pick on the poor RWNJs that must be masochists.

            Does that sound familiar? It’s like debating 5th graders who had too much sugar for lunch. Blah, blah, blah signifying nothing.

            Here’s an interesting link on the right’s hatred of Obamacare. I especially like the comments by a ‘capricatony’.

            http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/republicans-finally-admit-why-they-hate-the-aca.html

            But, that was then. Since Obamacare is doing pretty good and Ahmed Abu Khattala said he attacked the consulate because of the video insulting Islam, they have been harping on the missing IRS emails.

            Red, I hope they can recover the emails and that if they tell us nothing, it will be fascinating how they treat that while hanging their elections on that. It will be televised.

            Then, what will they do? I guarantee that there will be no, I repeat NO, evidence connecting the IRS ‘scandal’ to President Obama or the Administration. But, Trey Gowdy and the band of corrupt politicans will declare that ‘no evidence found is PROOF of a coverup’. That’s how they think. That’s what they do. That’s who they are. Morons.

        • @Jason, no to the porn, guns and money that’s more like it, maybe. Are either of them a setting US Senator, one 100 lawmakers in Washington? I have different standard for a setting senator he’s voting on important matters. I don’t conflate random people with a Senator?

          • Red , Not Senators but both were sitting State Reps at the time of their alleged crimes. One was a staunch supporter of gun control yet tried to traffic military grade weapons to terror groups for campaign donations. Sure sounds likke a do as I say not as I do type of guy. And one that voted on important matters in this state.

            William we will probably never know what was in those emails since the drives were destroyed no? Its pretty easy to see why the optics of the situation are damning. One side had been wanting those emails, the other side has been stalling knowing full well they couldnt hand them over. Just another one of those occurences that happens during this administration thats seems to happen every so often.

          • Yes, Jason
            In your world, lack of evidence is proof. Typical.

            Let’s say that the emails are recovered somehow and they show nothing incriminating.

            I bet that you, Trey Gowdy, the GOP and Fox ‘news’ will leap to some other thing to ask questions about. Questions whose answers you are already prepared to not accept.

            Because your ‘beliefs’ and ‘suspicions’ need no evidence, right Jason?

            The right wing nutjobs are already talking impeachment but they haven’t figured out what the specific ‘high crime and misdemeanor’ to charge him with. That’s backward isn’t it, Jason? Come on, admit it.

            Did you notice that after 2 years of non-stop ‘Breaking News’ about Benghazi, especially on Fox even when there was nothing new to report, on the Sunday talk shows 3 days ago, not one mention of the capture of ringleader Ahmed Abu Khattala who said that he was moved to attack the consulate by a video that insulted Islam. Uh, oh. That’s some bad news for the right.

            Now, isn’t that one of those occurances that keeps happening with all the so-called scandals during this administration that happens every so often?

            Haven’t you noticed how often GOP/Fox predictions and hysterical warnings blow up in their/your faces? Obamacare website gets fixed after a disastrous rollout, then they move on to no one will sign up, then when 8 million sign up they say it will raise premiums next year and when the experts say that won’t happen then it’s the IRS but Khattala’s capture was timed to help Hillary the day she was interviewed on Fox and it’s also a distraction from the BenIRSghazi, oh, this is getting ridiculous but there’s more cause we’re dealing with crazy tea party republicans and you are an audience for that craziness.

            Given that you love predictions and just going by how everything has blown up in GOP/Fox’s face, like the Wile E. Coyote, I’ll take a chance and predict that the IRS BS will blow up in their face just like Khattala blew up in the Benghazi Select Committee’s face.

            Whaddya think of that as long as we’re making predictions and speculating which is your game? I think I have based mine more on a history of similar occurrences of blunders by the right while yours aren’t based on a history of many convictions of administration wrongdoing so far. Just endless hearings with no findings of guilt. I think I have more credibility.

            But, thanks for playing.

          • @Jason
            Oh, and I forgot to mention how Fox and the tea partiers embraces George Zimmerman and Cliven Bundy until they blew up in their faces after a little more exposure.

            Aren’t you taking a big risk aligning with the folks who keep being WRONG over and over but never in DOUBT.

            Remember how the end of DADT and the legalization of same sex marriages was going to destroy America and then………………..nothing like that happened.

            I predict you will be eating crow when this whole IRS extravaganza is over with. Of course, the folks pursuing it will certainly spin it or ignore it like they did with bin Laden’s death and the capture of Khattala.

            If you are blind to that why should anyone take you seriously on this issue?

            I can’t wait.

          • Yes, Jason
            In your world, lack of evidence is proof. Typical.

            Let’s say that the emails are recovered somehow and they show nothing incriminating.

            I bet that you, Trey Gowdy, the GOP and Fox ‘news’ will leap to some other thing to ask questions about. Questions whose answers you are already prepared to not accept.

            Because your ‘beliefs’ and ‘suspicions’ need no evidence, right Jason?

            The right wing nutjobs are already talking impeachment but they haven’t figured out what the specific ‘high crime and misdemeanor’ to charge him with. That’s backward isn’t it, Jason? Come on, admit it.

            Did you notice that after 2 years of non-stop ‘Breaking News’ about Benghazi, especially on Fox even when there was nothing new to report, on the Sunday talk shows 3 days ago, not one mention of the capture of ringleader Ahmed Abu Khattala who said that he was moved to attack the consulate by a video that insulted Islam. Uh, oh. That’s some bad news for the right.

            Now, isn’t that one of those occurances that keeps happening with all the so-called scandals during this administration that happens every so often?

            Haven’t you noticed how often GOP/Fox predictions and hysterical warnings blow up in their/your faces? Obamacare website gets fixed after a disastrous rollout, then they move on to no one will sign up, then when 8 million sign up they say it will raise premiums next year and when the experts say that won’t happen then it’s the IRS but Khattala’s capture was timed to help Hillary the day she was interviewed on Fox and it’s also a distraction from the BenIRSghazi, oh, this is getting ridiculous but there’s more cause we’re dealing with crazy tea party republicans and you are an audience for that craziness.

            Given that you love predictions and just going by how everything has blown up in GOP/Fox’s face, like the Wile E. Coyote, I’ll take a chance and predict that the IRS BS will blow up in their face just like Khattala blew up in the Benghazi Select Committee’s face.

            Whaddya think of that as long as we’re making predictions and speculating which is your game? I think I have based mine more on a history of similar occurrences of blunders by the right while yours aren’t based on a history of many convictions of administration wrongdoing so far. Just endless hearings with no findings of guilt. I think I have more credibility.

            But, thanks for playing.

          • William Im not saying there was anything incriminating in those emails, just pointing out why the optics look bad. Lerner pleads the Fifth, emails during the time frame being investigated were lost due to a drive crash and that drive subsequently destroyed. Meanwhile they know this and dont say a word. If this happened under Bush youd be saying the exact same things Republicans are.

            Considering the Ways and Means committe released a report that Lerner tried to havee a Republican Senator referred for a tax probe, what are the chances theres something more incriminating in those files? Afterall you dont plead the Fifth when youre innocent.

          • Jason. What can I say? You are hopeless.

            Taking the 5th means that someone is guilty according you. People do that every day in this country. They have a right to do that.

            But, in your world that ‘right’ is different than your ‘rights’. Right?

            The way you yammer, you’d be wise to take the 5th if you were ever arrested and put on trial even if you were innocent. Your mouth would certainly get you in trouble. Big trouble.

          • @Jason
            Are ‘optics’ evidence? Who knew?

            Don’t you see what’s happening here? Once Obamacare got up and rolling after it’s disastrous rollout, the cons switched to Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

            Then, the minute Khattala was captured and he said it was the video, it wasn’t even discussed on the Sunday talk shows, because

            they jumped onto the IRS ‘scandal’. One thing after another has blown up in the GOP’s face. They make up stuff like Khattala’s capture was suspiciously timed as the same day Hillary appeared on a Fox interview. They, actually said that on Fox.

            So, you see, you Jason, are merely a pawn in the right wing nutjob scandalramadamadingdong.

            This, too, will blow up in their faces and yours too and your ‘optics’.

            Sheesh. Step back and take a larger view. You’re like the blind man who’s touching an elephan’s tail and thinks it’s a snake.

            ‘optics’. I just gave you a rundown of the ‘real’ optics that you can’t see where you’re standing.

          • William, typical response. Yes the optics of it look bad for everyone involved. Thats not saying its connected to the WH. It looks and is bad for the IRS on many levels but you ignore that. If Lerner did nothing wrong why plead the Fifth and resign?

            Innocent people plead the Fifth? Why would they invoke their Fifth Amendment rights to not incriminate themselves if they are innocent? Yes youre honor Im innocent but im going to plead the Fifth. A judge is going to shake his head at the stupidity of that statement.

          • And yes they have the right to plead the Fifth just like we have the right to question it. We pay their salaries so they should have to answer for what they do, not dodge questions and resign.

          • @Jason
            Lerner mistakenly got an invitation to an event that was for Sen. Grassley. Because it included paying for his wife, Lerner sent an email to the legal department to see if that was OK. The legal department said it was unless he didn’t declare it as income.

            Well, the right wing nutjobs went off on that saying she ‘targeted’ Grassley for an audit, blah, blah, blah.

            No. She was doing her job, got an answer and dropped it but the right is insane.

            So, can you see that it is wise for her to take the 5th when the right twists and distorts everything and Issa would do it the same way that he selectively leaked information on Benghazi but wouldn’t release information that was contrary to his agenda.

            I would take the 5th in front of a kangaroo court like that. Wouldn’t you, when it’s out to ‘get you’ regardless of the facts? THE 5TH PROTECTS INNOCENT PEOPLE TOO, JASON. WAKE UP. YOU’RE NOT SLEEPING IN YOUR CIVICS CLASS. It’s the year 2014.

            People take the 5th all the time on the advice of counsel. I can’t believe you are so dense.

            Butcha are.

          • @Jason

            I just saw a right wing bimbo named Alice Stewart, I think, on MSNBC’s Hardball re: the Grassley email.

            She was saying “Why didn’t Lerner go after all the Democrats who got invitations?”. The host didn’t reply but I would have told the crazy person “Because she didn’t mistakenly get their invitations which included their wives. That’s why?” Lerner only knew of the Grassley invitation because it was mistakenly sent to her. She didn’t go looking for it. But, the right thinks they have a smoking gun, another smoking gun that explodes in their faces.

            Look, Jason, we’re dealing here with insane right wingers who make up stuff constantly in their alternate reality and is disturbing when you come here and do the same.

          • @Jason
            Just saw this back and forth on Media Matters.

            Tea for 330 million coulda been you, Jason. You all share the same hardly used brain.

            Tea for 330 million OC1Kenobi • a day ago

            Weird then that they don’t just want to get all of the facts out there then.

            Weird that two people so far have taken the fifth.

            Weird that so many hard drives failed in such bizarre ways.

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            OC1Kenobi Tea for 330 million • 11 hours ago

            So you are just speculating? No evidence, just things that you find “weird.” If you want to know why the supposedly biased MSM doesn’t cover this stuff, you have provided the answer. Get upset when you have more than speculation that things seem “weird” in your own mind.

            Yes, Jason. People should go to prison because you think it’s ‘odd’ or ‘weird’. If so, then you should go to prison yourself.

            Y’all come back now. This is fun.

  16. I suppose William and Red are all for Hillary becoming prez…..That will officially be the end of this country. Continue and accelerate welfare, raise the mnimum wage, let all the illegals in, turn the PC Police loose….We’ll no longer have the “Redskins”, “Braves”, etc. Coddle the thin-skinned lazy people out there…that’s great for the well being of the country. The END of the American culture we enjoyed until the 80s. That’s the liberal way!!

    • @Rocky, thinned skin, talking about yourself? I’m sure whoever the next president is she’ll be great. Let’s call the the Washington team, THE WASHINGTON REDNECKS. OR MAYBE MAYBE THE WASHINGTON JEWBOYS, OR THE WASHINGTON SPICS, OR THE WASHINGTON WETBACKS? All of those are less disparaging than Redskins since the Indians were b. skinned for the bounty of there skin. Where are you from? Your family immigrated here, Indians here before you, go back if you don’t like it here. Talk, about thinned skinned, arrogant. America Love IT OR LEAVE, when will you Grumpy Old People stop? STOP TRAITORS.

      • Yeah pink….errrr Red, They can name them whatever they want. I’m smart enough to know that it’s just a football team, and words don’t hurt anyone…other than people who are always looking for a trivial matter to get hysterical about. There are more important things to worry about, like illegals, terrorists, Obama’s bungling of Iraq, the IRS, Benghazi, etc. Get with the program.

        • @Rocky, not necessary to personally attack me before you answer. We know anything you don’t find important is a hysterical. You are less than zero to me. You decided long ago you hated our President and would do everything to paralyze our America. Your crazy train left the station, Stop wrecking our country. The biggest threat we face is anti government, such as Cliven Bundy who has stocked a fire till police were dead. If you’re allegiance is to the Gasden Flag, not our flag, leave America, everyone is from somewhere even the pilgrims or Christopher Columbus? Or a redskin? The more you say is the worse you make. Why are you so arrogant to think, anyone needs your validation? Every word you say let’s me know I’m doing something right. I don’t aspire to be a Grumpy Old Person, you are the exact reason no one is a republican anymore.

        • @ROCKY, I’m with it, President Obama, Governor Brown, Senators, Feinstein and Boxer, Attorney General Harris, Assemblyman Fox. Thanks for worrying about me, if you keep talking it makes it easier for me. Did Donald Trumps detectives back from Hawaii yet? Or maybe they’re investigating Vince Fosters death? If there’s anything the Americas love to follow is some old recycled tales, in countries they never heard of, please keep up. More people think Benghadzi, is in Los Angeles than Lybiia.

    • @ Rocky. Finally, a breath of fresh conservative air on this liberal packed forum. Kudos.

      • @Stoney, another Grumpy Old Person? The reason Rocky and you don’t see your opinions more, is because you are so out of reality. That’s it, the last two. Anytime you want to join 2014, come on, if not, STOP tearing down America. Go back, to where you came from? Everyone here is through immigration, America isn’t changing for you, take charge of your own Iife, we don’t have to please you, LEAVE. We’re all equal, leave if you don’t like it

    • @Rocky, you suppose wrong, Grumpy Old Person.If you have to suppose, don’t. You and the rest of the GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE, need to join GOP leader’s in Mississippi to be indecent with farm animals cuz that’s okay in The GOP now. Go Thad Cochran, but lock up the sheep.

    • @Rocky, you and the GOP are trying to wreck are country because you don’t care about America you want to be right at all costs. We’re not allowing domestic terrorists to get away anymore, if you continue to harm America as you have it can’t last. We will stand up for America and not allow unpatriotic traitors to take take our country.

      • How does the name “Washington Rednecks” affect me? I just go about my business and miraculously, it doesn’t harm me!! It’s a Miracle!!

        • @Rocky, so you wrote that whole long diatribe regarding the pc correctness, all because you don’t care? You stated that Indians who didn’t like the name Redskins are thin skinned and delirious. So you’re scared of something. If you really don’t care, stay out, if you want to say ignorant things, remember the RED in the our flag. Where are you from? Did you figure that out? Who listens to anyone who doesn’t even know what their heritage is? And is so disloyal to own family ancestry. If you learned about your family possibilities you wouldn’t be so dismissive of other Americans. If this is how You react when you don’t care , Wow. Since I do care about America unlike you,STOP GRUMPY OLD PERSON, STOP you’re anti government, we’re done accepting you paralyzing America.

    • @Rocky

      Do you think before you write? At least you should go back and read what you wrote.

      You wrote>
      “The END of the American culture we enjoyed until the 80s.” You unwittingly, as I suppose you do all the time, wrote off the Reagan years, the God of the GOP.

      Before, the 80s, we had the Vietnam War, war protestors throughout the last 60s, assassinations of our leaders, Watergate, and other ‘good’ American ‘culture’ stuff that you want back.

      Keep on commenting here and drink your cheap beer. It’s quite funny and it entertains Stoney who must also think that your flatulence is is a ‘breath of fresh air’ as well.

      Kudos.

      BTW Stoney, research has shown that conservative brains have a larger amygdala which is the part of the brain that processes fear and fear responses. If you’ll notice, conservatives are ‘afeared’ of everything, absolutely everything and proud of it. First Lady Michelle Obama is promoting healthy eating and exercise and the conservatives are ‘afeared’ that their rights are being taken away. And, that’s just a very minor example.

      The right is ‘afeared’ of terrorists, or rather ‘paranoid’ when only a handful of Americans have been killed by terrorists in the last few years, a lot less than have been killed by gun owners in schools, colleges, restaurants,etc.

      Conservatives have their priorities so upside down and so do you, that they should be studied by scientists. Volunteer for the study, Stoney. You would be a good specimen. You and Rocky.

    • Hmmm.
      Jason and Eric disappear and a few minutes later, Rocky and Stoney show up talking just like the other 2.

      Jason loves him some conspiracies. Maybe this would be one of those ‘coincidences’ that he doesn’t believe in too.

      Anyway, now we have 4 dudes that like to get spanked.

      • Wrong again William. Have no idea who this guy is. Since you say I believe in conspiracies which ones do I believe in? And sad to say that you bring up spanking guys. Not really my cup of tea.

        • @Jason

          Boy, you are so dense. How old are you?

          The ‘spanking’ reference was regarding how you keep coming back to get your ‘opinions’ deconstructed. But, you thought it meant ‘butt paddling’.

          Geesh. It’s my fault for even bothering with you. It’s useless.

          But, you have to admit that Rocky and Bullwin….I mean Stoney showing up shortly after you and Eric vanished is a ‘coincidence’ like whatever it was you thought was a ‘weird’ or ‘odd’ coincidence in your earlier post. If you wanna play that game, it backfired on you.

          If you don’t believe in ‘coincidences’ then the Rock/Stoney thing must be a ‘conspiracy’ according to your logic.

          Did you enjoy my comparing you with the Wile E. Coyote who keeps using the ACME COMMENT WIZARD to post here and your comments keep exploding in your face?

          I thought it was a fairly accurate comparison.

        • @Jason, When did the terrorists see the video? Are you saying you haven’t been talking conspiracy and coincides? Go back to where you came, your family immigrated here, like the rest of us, so if you aren’t happy here you can leave. America Love it or Leave it. Believe we will miss nothing about you, accept your destructive attitude towards the greatest country on earth, America. Go back to where you came from, or love America.

          • Red saying something is odd or seems like a coincidence isnt saying its a conspiracy, but heybfeel free to keep reaching. Go back to where I came from? Im from America so Im already back where I came from. You guys crack me up. Dont agree with us and dont fall into the goosestep linr, youre a terrorist, you want to ruin the country, youre holding the country back, blah blah blah. Keep up the good work work sheeple.

          • @Eric, your native American? You are aware that everyone in America came from somewhere? Your family immigrated here from somewhere? So you aren’t from America, you really don’t know that? Go back to where your people came from before they lived her.

          • @Jason, I crack you up, while you apparently are unaware of what America is based on. If you’re family arrived on Plymouth rock, they are immigrants, and came from somewhere. Are you really that ignorant and arrogant to believe your the only American, you don’t know about history? Read what it says on the Statue of liberty. Your of lack knowledge about America, is why we don’t listen you.

          • Red there you go making zero sense once again. I was born in America like my parents before me and their parents before and so on. Besides some of my ancestors were here long before Plymouth Rock.

            And we are supposed to take you seriously with your rants about nonsense and personal attacks? Dont have an answer and you go off on tangents that have nothing to do with whats being discussed or personally attack people. You say youre an older person but you come across like youre a pre-teen.

      • @Eric, don’t know much about history? America is a country of immigrants and no one was here accept for the Indians? And Eric? You can’t be American, everyone came from somewhere, accept you? You don’t about the pilgrims?

        • Do you ever make sense? Is it that hard to understand I was born here in America? Or is that a concept you dont understand? I was born in the 1970s, not the 1600s so Plymouth Rock or the Pilgrims were about 300 years before my time. But hey keep up with the nonsensical rants.

          • @Jason, congratulations on being the one true American as a native Indian. I totally respect you and your family. I didn’t personally attack, I simply asked a question? Great with agreement on evolution. Before I understood you were native American, I thought you didn’t understand everybody in America is from somewhere, not you want of course because you’re a native American. I have no idea about to you and the animals, porn or whatever. I support the USA first and if you don’t don’t, but at least don’t be a hypocrite and act like a patriot. Patriots, are Americans first not just the leaders they voted for, you or anyone who is undermining our government, needs to hear we’re done listening to your hair is on fire. Anymore committees or invading countries needs to pay for before we do it. I know you’re born the seventies, babies born in Plymouth rock, are children of immigrants? Anything I say, if the shoe fits, wear it, I see what your thinking. Do you love America more than ideology? Yes. Or No. Not with conditions just Yes.

      • @Eric or Jason, your getting mixed up with your personas, read yourself. Just be who you are, your all mixed up. Hello everyone is from somewhere but Eric and Jason the only true Americans? Learn some American heritage, then talk.No one takes you serious, when you say ignorant things, that we learned in 3rd grade,

        • Time to put down the bottle. Apparently you cant grasp the concept that someone who is born here is from here. Some of my ancestors were here long before the Pilgrims. Some came afterwards. That happened ling before I was born. Try to keep up here. Im in the country I was born in, therefore if I leave Im going somewhere Im not from. I know that sounds complicated but its quite simple.

      • @Eric, your family was her way before Plymouth rock? Really?? Everytime you say negative things about America, I’m pushing back. I feel you are acting like an unpatriotic traitor. If you choose to continue to undermind and try to cripple my government, I will call you as I see it. Unpatriotic traitor, you to came from somewhere, go back, someone in your family immigrated to this country.

        • Blah blah blah. Try to make sense. When have I ever said anything unpatriotic? How is saying I want this country to get back on its feet and out of crisis unpatriotic? Im gonna go grab a snickers bar becuase I cant wait to hear this one.

          • @Jason

            When you are ready to admit who brought about our crises, then an intelligent discussion can begin? How old are you by the way? You sound like a 20 something who doesn’t have much experience or knowledge of history.

            Who took us to a war in Iraq based on lies?

            Who started the low taxes on the rich/lax regulations policies that have crashed our economy, kept wages stagnant, and fostered one scheme/fraud/corrupt economic crisis after another starting with the S&L fiasco in the 80s, junk bonds, Enron, sub-prime, 2008 collapse, etc.

            We haven’t had one ‘normal’ business cycle recession since Reagan who started all the messes we are trying to fix with no help from the tea party republicans who’d rather shut down the government costing $14 billion than provide health care for all Americans.

            Until you get that, your opinions for wanting whatever it is you want, are garbage.

            And, you’ll keep getting ‘spanked’ here because apparently, you like it. You keep coming back for more.

          • William

            Ive already admitted who got us into these crises but because I blame both sides, thats not good enough for you.

            The government took us into Iraq based on lies, Democrats included but still not good enough for you.

            Th fact you bring up the S&L fiasco makes me laugh. That all started when Carter, a Democrat, signed a bill, Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act, deregulating S&Ls. Sure sounds like a Republican scheme. Oh wait, thats right, hes a Democrat. Chairman of the Fed during that time, whose decisions played a role in the S&L fiasco, was also a Democrat.

            Enron was a private company, not sure how the Republicans are at fault for that.

            Sub-prime and the 2008 collapse? Both parties had their hands in that but continue to ignore that. Banks and Wall Street hand their hands all over those things as well. Didnt realize those were strictly Republican.

            Here we go back to the shutdown. One side refuses to come to the table while one side talks compromise. Who gets the blame? Thats right, the side that tried to compromise.

            Now, where were we about getting things? You continue to choose to ignore the role Democrats have played in these crises to go after the Republicans. Keep staying blind and goosestep for the party line.

            Want to try and “spank” me again?

          • And to expand on the S&L scandal, Jim Wright, a Democrat, had to resign because the role he played in it. Why you ask? Because he took massive amounts of donations from Charles Keating to lobby on behalf of people like himself to delay government action against them.

            Then we have the Keating Five. All five received campaign contributions and all 5 lobbied on his behalf. Lets look at the political affiliation of these five men. Would ya look at that 4 Democrats and 1 Republican. Who was reprimanded for his actions? Alan Cranston who is, surprise surprise, a Democrat. Sure seems like the S&L scandal was a Republican scheme/fraud/whatever else you want to call it.

          • @Jason
            Re: the shutdown.

            Which party was talking compromise? As I recall the republicans were threatening a shutdown unless the ACA was repealed. The House passed a bill without funding for the ACA which was passed by Congress, signed by the President and declared constitutional by the Supreme Court. The GOP didn’t like it and voted to repeal it over 50 times which was a useless exercise because the Senate wouldn’t pass it and Barack wouldn’t have signed it.

            Didn’t you recall hearing several tea party nuts in the Congress actually saying “Shut it down”? I do.

            Barack wasn’t going to be threatened with that type of hostage taking and setting a precedent. So, the republicans shut it down and they rightfully got blamed for it and then lied and said they didn’t want a shutdown. But, you think that the republicans were genuinely offering a compromise. Geez, Jason, are you that naïve? Really?

            So, you think those kind of shenanigans and the record number of Senate fillibusters are matched on the other side by the Democrats? That’s why it’s hopeless to discuss things with you.

            If you are suggesting that the republicans were the ones offering to compromise…. now I know your aren’t thinking straight.

            Enron and the sub-prime mess were during the time when republicans held the Congress and the White House. If I recall correctly, Enron was protected somehow by the Bush administraton at first. But, get this. In his first 6 months, Bush signed an executive order tightening up bankruptcy laws. So, when Enron collapsed, not only did its employees lose their jobs, retrirement and houses but Bush’s new bankruptcy changes hit them hard on top of that.

            But, of course, both parties are the same.

            It was on their watch just like the crashes of 1987 and 2008 were both on Reagan’s and Bush’s watches. Isn’t that how it works? Barack gets blamed for everything by Fox News and the GOP while they ignore the republicans in Congress obstructing and being unwilling to cooperate or compromise. They’ve actually said they won’t compromise. But, you think both sides are equally at fault.

            I love how the republicans have tried to blame the Democrats for the 2 years that they held the House and Senate except it wasn’t 2 years because Al Franken didn’t take office till June 2009 and Ted Kennedy died in August. His replacement was only for a few months until Scott Brown was elected and took office in January 2010. But, I’m sure you’ve heard the lie that the Democrats had the Congress for 2 whole years.

            I’ve said before that the Democrats aren’t perfect but they are light years ahead of the republicans when it comes to looking out for the whole country instead of the top 1%.

            Which party opposes>
            -raising the minimum wage to benefit the working poor
            -providing health care for every American.
            -expanding Medicaid which a Harvard study predicted that over 20,000 Americans may die this year because a majority of republican governors are refusing to expand it. Meanhwile those same republicans are pretending to care about the 4 who died in Behghazi while funding off the hearings.
            -equal pay for women.
            -marriage equality.
            -anything that Barack supports even if it was a republican idea in the first place.

            And, which party has tried every trick they can think of to suppress voting and has passed laws, some ruled unconstitutional, targeting Democrats and making it burdensome for them to vote? I’ll give you 1 guess so you can’t once again say both parties do it.
            The republicans were demanding that Barack get Bowe Bergdahl returned. But, after he was, they complained about the trade even though they knew in January that the 5 detainees were going to be traded for him when they were complaining about Barack not getting him back.

            But, you, Jason, think that both parties are equally at fault for the shape the country is in.

            Of course, the Democrats haven’t been as effective as they could have been given the unprecedented obstruction and downright absurd behavior of the republicans. They’ve had to compromise with the GOP just to get things passed but then you blame them for it.

            How old are you? I’ve asked you several times. I’m 68 and have some historical memory of how things went down in the past but, like I said before, you seem like a 20 something. And, you pick a few things from here and there without seeing the whole picture. It’s called not seeing the forest for the trees.

            As for me not criticizing Democrats, why should I? I’ve concluded that the republicans have become harmful to the country such as their voting suppression attempts among other things. So, I won’t cut them any slack. Not one bit. They’ve lost the right to any respect or that they should be taken seriously. And,I’ll call them out every chance I get as well as anyone who thinks that both parties are equally at fault.

          • @Jason
            Did you deliberately leave out John McCain who is still in office?

            Are you familiar with the term ‘cherry picking’?

            The point is Reagan unleashed the greed monster in the 1980s when he cut the top tax rate from 70% to around 30% and tried to cut regulations wherever he could.

            But, THAT WASN’T GOOD ENOUGH for the upper crust. That’s when executive compensation went through the roof while wages remained stagnant since 80s and productitity went up.

            That’s all republican ideology at work. Does anyone think that Mitt Romney worked any harder than his father did while making big bucks buying companies, loading them with debt, selling assets and leaving the stripped companies and the employees holding the empty bag. That’s the GOP business model that is destroying the country.

            But, both parties are the same.

        • William

          So Bush signed those bankruptcy laws just so those people effected by Enron would be hit harder? Because Enron and the way they did business was a Republican fraud right?

          Yes the collapses started while those two were in office. Not sure about what happened during the Reagan collapse as I was young. The collapse during the Bush shutdown had its roots in place before Bush even became President yet somehow hes 100% at fault for it? Hes at fault for the housing boom that started in 1997?

          I dont blame Obama for the mess were in as it started before he hit office. He had a tough road to start with that was nothing of his doing. My issues with him lie in other areas.

          And those other issues you listed are why I criticize Republicans as well. Minimum wage needs to go up to a reasonable level but if it hits a certain point like in Seattle, its going to start taking more money out of peoples pockets.

          And as far as equal pay goes, the people pushing for that one arent exactly beacons of light on the issue. The top 5 Senate leaders dont exactly live up to the ideals of equal pay for women.

          Ive explained why both parties are the same. Both lie, both play political games, neither side gives a crap except for who gives them the most money, both sides are hypocritical.

          Did I purposely leave out McCain? Guess you missed the 1 Republican part of my comment. I didnt mention him like I didnt mention John Glenn because both were criticized for poor judgement while being cleared of impropriety.

          • @Jason
            You mentioned 2 Democrats by name, revealing your right wing bias.

            Before you read on, answer this. Which party is passing voter suppression laws targeting those voters most likely to vote Democratic? And, don’t even go there with “What’s wrong with a voter ID?”. It’s much more. It’s about laws restricting hours and days and moving locations and otherwise creating obstacles for some voters, called ‘Democrats’. That alone should disqualify republicans from holding office.

            State Senator Steve Knight is a pathetic do nothing jerk who opposed funding for polling places on University of California and California State University campuses, along with the rest of the GOP in Sacramento, because, get this, he said that “They can’t handle the crowds”. Unbelievable. So, I don’t cut republicans any slack. They are filthy politicians.

            As for Enron, Bush signed the executive order months before Enron crashed, and I never said that that he did it specifically to target Enron employees.

            Also, don’t you remember Bush’s buddy at Enron that he called ‘Kenny Boy’ aka Kenneth Lay? That’s one reason I thought you were 20 something.

            Here’s the connection>
            As Enron’s crisis worsened through the first nine months of the Bush presidency, Ken Lay got Bush’s help in three principal ways:

            –Bush personally joined the fight against imposing caps on the soaring price of electricity in California at a time when Enron was artificially driving up the price of electricity by manipulating supply. Bush’s rear-guard action against price caps bought Enron and other energy traders extra time to gouge hundreds of millions of dollars from California’s consumers. “Jason, don’t you live in California?”

            –Bush granted Lay broad influence over the administration’s energy policies, including the choice of key regulators to oversee Enron’s businesses. The chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission was suddenly replaced in 2001 after he began to delve into Enron’s complex derivative-financing schemes.

            –Bush had his National Security Council staff organize an administration-wide campaign to pressure the Indian government to accommodate Enron, which wanted to sell its generating plant in Dabhol, India, for $2.3 billion. Bush administration pressure on India over the Dabhol plant continued even after Sept. 11, when India’s support was needed for the war on terrorism. The administration’s threats against India on Enron’s behalf didn’t stop until Nov. 8.

            On Nov. 8, Enron disclosed the formal SEC investigation and admitted overstating earnings by $586 million with losses hidden in off-the-books partnerships run by Enron’s Chief Financial Officer Andrew Fastow. Over the next four weeks, Enron stumbled toward its bankruptcy filing on Dec. 2.”

            Here’s the link to the whole article>
            http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/052902a.html

            I don’t see a lot of Democratic participation in that scandal but it sure fits with what republicans do, then and now.

            Then, there are their unprecedented filibusters in the Senate and other obstructionist tactics.

            But, both parties are the same.

          • What voter I.D. prevents is: Illegals, poor people, low-energy (you know what i mean) people, etc. from voting. Why would you want those people to vote???? Democrats (the ones who have money) are totally unconcerned about this. How hard is it to get an I.D.???…You will refuse to answer that.

          • William

            Naming two Democrats who played a huge role in a supposed Republican fraud is showing my right wing bias? Thats hilarious. I guess ignoring Carter deregulating them and all the help from Cranston and Wright they got is you showing your left wing bias then right? After all this was a Republican scheme right?

            So the Bush administration helping them do business means they had their hands in the accounting department which led to the melt down?

            You act like the Democrats have never used the filibuster. Guess the times they used them during Bush’s terms were forgotten about eh? Both sides use them but once again you act like they dont. But both parties are different right?

            Just like when both sides use the media to lie and spin on whatever issue they are trying to use against each other. But hey the Democrats screaming from the rooftops about the Republicans cutting welfare benefits, which in fact was a non renewal of a temporary benefit, is fine and dandy right?

            Just like Leland Yee getting caught in a corruption and gun trafficing case is somehow different than Gov Walker being investigated for campaign law violations. Or should we go into the mess that is Illinois and all the politicians there recently involved in corruption and ine getting caught with child porn? Oh thats right, theyre Democrats so its ok to you because the Republicans are all evil. But both parties are different right?

  17. @Eric, the conspiracy never ends till you remove the Pre????? We elected this President, that’s what happened twice. Part of the reason is GOP policies, NO news ideas. We didn’t vote for Willard because we don’t want your policies. We have a half black President, move on to 2014. We’re done being held hostage by the craziest people AND the top 1% . NO MORE GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE.

    • @Eric, if you want to take your time machine somewhere how about back before Bush lied us into the worst mistake we could make. Do you hear that 9/11 really got planned before Bush administration, so therefore it wasn’t on his watch and they wanted to catch Osama Bin Laden so when President Obama caught him that was a Bush administration, just like the financial crisis started when President Obama got elected. If you want to go back to 2008, when the GOP was in charge, I will never vote for another Grumpy Old Person until you face reality.

    • @Eric, we all get the right to representation, not individual representation, do you understand that? Your family came to this country from somewhere, if America is so terrible, go back to where you came and see how that worksAmerica, Love it or leave. If not don’t expect us to allow anymore of your unpatriotic, destructive behavior. We’re not changing for you, No more Grumpy Old People. You can’t support a government you don’t recognize, it’s not one you agree with. Eric, go. back to where your people came from, we all from somewhere?? You’re working against our own country, you and the rest of you immigrant relatives, go somewhere you like better, your stake in this country is no more than anyone else, your family immigrated and now you’re unhappy, leave. If you’re not moving stop being anti American. Apparently you are clueless to where the rest of us are in America. How do you think the President keeps getting elected, we don’t want your policies, Grumpy Old Person.

  18. This is just a sample of the tea party republican insanity.

    It’s an excerpt from a Media Matters article on Allen West, one of Fox News’s ‘go to’ guys for political analysis.

    “Fox News contributor Allen West dismissed the recent capture of Benghazi terrorist suspect Ahmed Abu Khattala as a “smoke and mirrors” ploy and questioned whether Abu Khattala was really the “mastermind” behind the attacks or “the Obama administration’s fall guy.” Yet West just months ago co-signed a letter calling for Khattala’s capture because he was the “ringleader of the attack.”

    John “I’m not a crazy person” McCain is criticizing President Obama for bringing Khattala to the U.S. for trial instead of Gitmo.

    But, ol’ nutjob McCain said he wanted Gitmo closed during his 2008 campaign. He is so dizzy from switching sides on every issue.

    These 2 are examples of the idiocy and insanity on the right. Now, Dick and Liz (no not Burton and Taylor) Cheney are trying to blame Barack for the mess that Cheney helped engineer. If the ‘real’ Liz and Dick were still alive, they’ve have more intelligent things to say than the Cheney duo of destruction.

    • @William, Dick and Liz Cheney really have no shame. All I want is an apology for being wrong. If I want advice on shooting a friend’s face off, I’ll call Dick. Liz, if you’re website is an example of your work. Note to Liz be sure to own the correct domains. Rachel Maddow owns one, an Anti Cheney website own one. I think if a website fails it’s over.

  21. I’ve been fairly critical of our Commander-in-Chief. I’d like to extend a word of praise. I support how he has handled the situation in Iraq over the past few days. There is no need for us to involve ourselves there again, it is a volatile situation beyond on the capability of civilized societies to solve; it must work itself out. No troops, and so far, no is the word were giving as far as bombs as well. We’ve reinforced our embassy with a company of Marines; even groups as psychotic as ISIL know better than to mess with a concentration of animals like that.

    POTUS, making the right calls. That is what I like to see.

    • @Eric

      You wrote>

      “…and I doubt capturing the equivalent of a squad leader is the news dominating headline they would like.” Who were they supposed to catch at part of the Benghazi attack, the President of Iran or someone of that caliber? They captured one of the guys involved who we think is the mastermind. Geez, Eric. Some of the things you write are so odd.

      Are you kidding me? Benghazi. Benghazi. Benghazi has been in the news every single day due to the insatiable obsession from the repubicans and Fox News. But, we’ve known all along that the republicans and Fox News weren’t really interested in capturing the murderers, just using the 4 deaths as political gold. And, they’ve done just that for 2 years.

      Now, we might learn something from Khattala about the reason behind the attacks, maybe. But, again, if his story doesn’t comport with the right wing narrative, they will dismiss it.

      Republicans and Fox News are incredibly slow to give up beating a dead horse but so quick to dismiss any thing that debunks their narratives.

      So, when they catch 1 of the ringleaders, they and you say that it’s no big deal.

      Wow! You certainly don’t care about your credibility.

      • Just heard on Chris Hayes show that the New York Times reported that Ahmed Abu Khattala told Libyans on the night of the Benghazi attack that he was inspired to do so by the insult to Islam from a video.

        If that is correct, Trey Gowdy, the guy that looks like the banjo player in Deliverance, will have some difficultly pursuing his Benghazi trial, I mean hearing. Actually, he slipped and called it a ‘trial’ a few weeks ago.

        If that is correct, I wonder how Fox News will spin that. They are good at spinning but this should be a real challenge for them.

        Gee. It’s not like republicans to fall into a hole they dug themselves.

        • William, dont you think its a little wierd that they decided to protest MONTHS after the video came out and on the day they did? And that so called protest ended up with the destruction and murder it did? Or that there were prior warning signs that things werent right?

          • William, so its completely normal for Islamic militants to protest and attack a US consulate over a film trailer made by an Egyptian film maker on the anniversary of 9/11? And these protesters just happen to have enough weaponry to do the job?

          • @Jason
            You first asked if I thought it was ‘weird’ to a list of 3 questions.

            I answered “No” to all 3.

            But, just like a RWNJ/Fox News enthusiast, you were already predisposed to not accept ANY answer I gave, weren’t you? Then, you inferred that I thought it was ‘completely normal…..’ thinking that would win your argument for you. Well, no. See my reply to that below.

            As for the the ‘normalcy’ of those actions by the protestors; in that part of the world, that IS normal.

            See, you guys that ask endless questions aren’t interested in the answers. You merely want your suspicions and conspiracy theories validated.

            How do you feel about Ahmed Abu Khattala’s statement reported in the New York Times that he was moved to attack the consulate in Benghazi because of a video insulting Islam? Does that square with your previous notions from the very beginning? Or not? Are you ignoring it or dismissing it as another conspiracy brought about by President Obama?

            It really does damage to those on the right who excoriated Amb. Susan Rice’s statements on the Sunday morning shows and the Obama Administration. So, like you are doing with me, they are coming up with all sorts of distractions, denials and other nonsense to avoid confronting that the Administration was correct in thinking that the attack in Benghazi was partially related to that video. Will you admit that, Jason?

            There was a lot of weaponry in Libya from the overthrow of Khadafi, so there goes your “…protesters happen to have enough weaponry…” supposition. They have very lax gun control legislation in Libya, just like the NRA/gun manufacturing lobby would like there to be in the United States. They must have an even broader Second Amendment in the Libyan Constitution’s Bill of Rights.

            That it happened on 9/11: what’s so unusual about that?
            They like to ‘celebrate’ the anniversary just as we commemorate it each year on September 11.

            Usually, I would reply to you with “Nice try, Jason.” except it wasn’t. It was pathetic. I’m insulted that you couldn’t come with something better to reply to me than those silly talking points.

          • @Jason, NO, like I didn’t believe capturing Osama Bin Laden was also a conspiracy or any other crazy conspiracies you have, you are nuts and are riding a crazy train to? Stop. If you have to go back to the future don’t. Worry about kids that who weren’t born when benghazi happened. The president is Barack Hussein Obama get over it. Stop you’re anti government, unpatriotic crap.

          • @Red

            Go easy on Jason. He don’t know what he’s doin’ no how.

            He’s just passing on right wing nonsense as though they are his own thoughts brought about by rational thinking.

            Home schooling? Maybe. I don’t know what causes his problem.

          • @Jason, you are weird. NO, NO, NO, no more conspiracies. If anyone agreed with you, Barack Hussein Obama would not be President. I voted for my President, so it is insulting for you to keep paralyzing our government. Anymore committees need to pay for it though tax increases on the top 1 percent. NO more Grumpy Old People Jason.You really feel qualified to make this decision from your house? We have him. period move on.

          • @Eric, how do you know when they saw the video? Who can explain how terrorists think? They were in Lybia, so I think they knew it was dangerous, and risky. What warning sign? If you’re in war torn country intelligent people know that’s risky. I wish you interested in investigating the blood and treasure we are continuing to pour into Iraq and who lied us into war. Remember when the economy collapsed, we got hit by the worst terrorist attack in our history and lied us into the biggest foreign policy blunder in history, all compliments of Bush/Cheney. We alternative did it your way

          • @Eric,when did they actually watch the video? Your whole theory is on that, what’s the answer?No personal attacks just when did the terrorists see the video?

        • I wonder if Jason and Eric will be back. They pose a lot of questions and state opinions as facts, then hightail it.

          • @William, probably getting briefed on national security, by Dick and Liz. I wonder if someone’s face will get shot off?

          • William so its wrong to ask questions because I dont believe in coincidences? You feel the way you do and I feel the way I do. I just find it odd that a video noone had any clue even existed was the cause of this. Protesting I could see happening but a full out attack, destruction of a mission and murder?

            Red, they were plenty of warning signs, hence the fact they had requested extra security. Americans werent the only ones that noticed either. The British noticed things as well.

            And youre revising history now? When the economy collapsed we got hit by the worst terrorist attack in history? 9/11 happened long before the economy collapsed.

          • @Jason

            I told you what was ‘wrong’ with you asking questions. It’s that you are already prepared not to accept any answers to your questions unless they agree with you.

            And, you illustrated that when I answered your 3 questions with 3 ‘No’s.

            That inquiry didn’t satisfy you did it? I knew it wouldn’t.

            That’s what the GOP/Fox News nuts do constantly. All of your questions have been answered in over a dozen hearings and you come here and ask them once again like an endlessly loop.

            Meanwhile, Ahmed Aub Khattal has been captured and it’s been reported that the video played a part in his intention to attack the consulate. So, why are you ignoring that in your endless quest to ‘get’ answers to your already answered questions? You might as well be asking questions about Barack’s birth certificate.

            You don’t believe in coincidences but I bet you believe in a lot unprovable things just because you believe them.

            It you think some events that happen on the same day are ‘weird’, so what? If I don’t think the same thing, you don’t accept it. So what?

            Like I said before, you ask a question in order to not accept any answer but one, yours.

            You are like the Wiley Coyote. Everything you write explodes in your face. But, you don’t give up. You should quit using the ACME COMMENT WIZARD.

          • @Jason, everything you believe is a conspiracy or coincidence, since that’s all in your head, your questions will never be answered. Now we all realize that you cried conspiracy, hearings and set your head on fire everyday for the last 6years. You are disrespectful, you won’t admit what your doing and then act patriotic, you, Rush Limbaugh and a seating U.S. Senator, that likes indecent experiences with animals is acceptable, are wrecking our our country. You are a domestic terrorist way more scary than an foreigner, but you are from somewhere or a native? Stop traitor, Grumpy Old People

          • Give up, Jason?

            Your silly questions have been answered. You just don’t like the answers.

            You’re like a little kid who when his parent gives him an answer says “But, whyyyyyyyyyyyy?” over and over.

            Grow up if you want to be in adult conversations.

          • Like I said William, you feel one way and I feel another. If the video was truly part of why they attacked the mission then so be it. Just seems odd to me they would attack and kill Americans because of a video made by a Christian Egyptian.

            Red you make zero sense. So because I question an attack by Muslims Ive cried conspiracy and hearings for 6 years? And now Im a domestic terrorist for wanting the country to once again be on solid footing and not in some state of crisis? I guess I could be a sheeple and toe party line and bury my head in the sand.

          • @Jason
            So, that’s your ‘fall back’ position, that we feel differently.

            I was hoping you’d finally admit that you are full of it.

            BUT, then you went on to promote the ‘oddness’ of what happened which was your main point in the first place. You just can’t let go of your ‘beliefs’. That is the nature of belief and it’s pitfall. Once something is believed, it’s hard to let go of it even in the face of contrary evidence. You are displaying that conflict in your deliberate dismissal of the report that Khattala’s actions were based on the video. You are stuck.

            Why do you think that protesters in the Middle East behave rationally? The tea party republicans in our own country don’t behave rationally, if you paid attention.

            Actually, what is ‘odd’ is that you think that those protesters should act in ways that you deem sensible. Isn’t that ‘odd’ or ‘weird’ to use your words?

            The radical extremists of various groups in the Middle East are ready to attack for any reason. They’ve been brawling there for a thousand years or more.

            Right now, the republicans in Congress are trying to put all the responsibility for any actions regarding Iraq on President Obama, even though he is conferring with them. They want to be able to criticize him whatever he does about it. But, things like that are way over your head.

    • @Eric, fairly critical? If every other time you’re critical, one time not and that’s fairly????

  22. Re Iraq: here is link to best reporting I’ve seen on how ISIS came about and what role USA plays:
    on.msnbc.com/1sk3L3O
    Rachel Maddow tells you history of situation there going back to year 680 when it all started, then gives great summary of how USA got entrenched there.
    Worth Watching to know what is happening right now

    • President Obama just announced that we’ve caught one of the alleged Benghazi killers of our men at the consulate.

      Immediately after that, some jerk on Fox News speculated that since Hillary will be interviewed on Fox tonight by Greta Van Susteren and Brett Baier, the timing of this capture is suspect and not a coincidence.

      Isn’t that typical of Fox News? They make stuff up and run with it. There is something happening somewhere in the world every single day but in the right wing nutjob brains, it’s all a conspiracy.

      If the capture had occured a month ago, they would suspect it was to distract from Obamacare or Ukraine. They can’t handle more than 1 thing at a time in their pea sized brains reptilian brains. My apologies to reptiles as they have been around a long time unlike the tea party republicans whose life span is ending soon.

      At Fox, they are already going to dismiss the capture of this guy like they did with the killing of bin Laden.

      But, Fox’s BS isn’t the real problem. The real problem is the gullible people who watch and swallow everything that Fox dumps on the airwaves, hook, line and sinker. Many of them live here in the Antelope Valley and are proud of their ignorance and repeat Fox falsehoods constantly. I know. I read their letters in the Valley Press.

      • I thought it slightly coincidental that they got him today. That is how things work though, one day their there, the next their somewhere else, the head is going to pop up eventually. We’ve been playing whack-a-mole in the desert for the past 13 years, so no real shock that another mole popped up today.

        The real surprise was they didn’t whack him. Considering the nature of the “kill list” that has been ran the past 6 under Obama (don’t read that as an insult Bill, I did notice that we were put under somewhat better “mission parameters” under O than W), its surprising that he is breathing. Most HVI in the mid-east the past 6 have turned up under a drone’s missile rather than a jail cell.

        • “coincidental” Really?

          Didn’t you read my full comment. If it had happened last week, last month, last year, those on the right and Fox News would have also considered it suspicious as there is something happening 24/7/365 in the world that the right is up in arms about and would connect it to this.

          I don’t get your comment that you thought it ‘slightly coincidental’????

          Either it was coincidental or it wasn’t. Are you implying that it was announced for a purpose other than that it happened and today was the day to announce it?

          It was 20 years ago on June 12, 1994 that Nicole Simpson was murdered and it’s been exactly 20 years plus 5 days which means that it’s slightly a coincidence that Casey Kasem dies on June 15, 2014 and 15 has a 5 in it, so there must be some connection. Right?

          I hope you not going down the right wing rabbit hole with this.

          • The pundits have been, shall we say, sheepish on the issue in Iraq right now. Its nice to have a bit of a “clearer” issue to deal with. However, to allege the administration orchestrated it in this fashion, waiting for today; I don’t really see any news worth being blown over, and I doubt capturing the equivalent of a squad leader is the news dominating headline they would like.

            Like I said, whack-a-mole. One goes down, one goes up, no real set order to the chaos.

          • @Eric
            Your last comment above made absolutely no sense.

            You really need to have a ‘designated typer’.

        • @Eric, when did you get your intelligence report. You can’t seriously believe you are qualified to talk about this. Are you aware that we hadn’t done a drone strike in 6 months, till prisioner were released in POW exchange. Did you get the memo? We didn’t elect you, do you understand that, your one citizen you do get exclusive representation.

        • @Eric, At least he got them unlike Bush. You do know that? How about the 4400 dead and 3 trillion dollars??

    • Seriously? We got messed up out there when we started playing “Allah” with their societies in an attempt to secure oil. Born on the back of centuries of European colonization which had hampered the natural development and flow of the regions, its a Pandora’s Box that has been rattling its lid for a long time.

      Their civil war is being fought by two sides; one believes that their supreme leader should be born from a royal family, with a solid line of a hierarchy. The other believes that their supreme leader should be chosen by a select group of “Chosen” clerics. Neither has a respect for basic human rights or civility. Blood, violence, advancement via the sword.

      Its about time our men and women stopped dying to save a few dollars at the pump; let the “natural” course have its way in the mid-east, and deal with the surviving sect when its an appropriate time.

      • @Eric, really. ARE you going to the Dick “shooter” Cheney school of facts, cuz you are out reality.

  23. On Chris Hayes show just now, he referred to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor as ‘loathesome’.

    But, a guest, Jess McIntosh of Emily’s List, topped him by saying he was ‘hilariously unpleasant’.

    No wonder he lost to some unknown guy who spent less on his campaign than Cantor spent at steakhouses.

    I love watching the Donner Party eat each other. And, they think they should be the ones ‘governing’ the country.

    • @William, Eric Cantor is wearing Pravda with lifts. The Young Guns went bom bom, Paul Ryan most recent failed vice-presidential candidate who will never be President, Eric Cantor gone, Kevin McCarthy you next??

      • @ Red
        These republicans is the dumbest peoples on earth.

        They named themselves the ‘Young Guns’. I didn’t see the movie but I hear that they all died in the end.

        The tea party peoples originally called themselves ‘tea baggers’ and we all know how that turned out.

        And, they want to run the government. To paraphrase an old saying “Would you buy a NEW car from one of these guys?”.

        If the Democrat beats Brat in the general, I wonder how the right and its master Fox News will spin that disaster.

        Nevermind. I know. IMPEACHMENT. Their answer to everything.

        The Founding Fathers should have put something in the Constitution prohibiting dumb people from voting or holding elected or appointed office. We would be so much further along building a ‘more perfect union’.

        • @William, I still really like the term teabaggers and miss the hats with bags hanging down in their eyes. Maybe lemons again. Well the impeachment will have to go ahead cuz Louie Gomert has not received the report on the asparagus from Eric Holder, so it’s on. When you are weak, gay, Kenyan, dictator, communist, immigrant lover, Muslim, who was not born here you better watch out, Louis Gomert is on top of this as soon as gets that bill to outlaw energy saving light bulbs passed, his partner Michelle Bachmann will get to the bottom of this asparagus gate. President Obama must be so scared with there track record, I’ve wondered if they are really dems?? Really that stupid Wow?

          • Oh, Red. I laughed heartily all through your comment and it’s TRUE. That’s what makes all that stuff so funny. It’s TRUE.

            Then, the RWNJs come back as us with the ’57 states’ because they really, really think that Barack thinks there are 57 states. He misspoke. But, when RWNJs say stoopid things, they double-down on them.

            As for impeachment, the poor slobs forget that Bill Clinton’s job approval ratings were in the mid-60s DURING impeachment and better than the average for his first five years. I don’t know what rating Monica gave him but it was probably good too.

            Anyway, Bill and Hillary came out of all that the dumb republicans could throw at them stronger and more popular than every.

            So, I’m thinking about the current crop of dumb republicans who have the numbers for impeachment but they haven’t decided yet on the high crime or misdemeanor. (Seems bassackwards to me. But that’s me.) “Bring it, dummies. Bring it.”

            I swear, the republicans in this Congress must get some kind of erotic satisfaction from being mocked and beaten so often. Gay marriage is coming to a red state near you. Barack’s team got Ahmed Abu Khattala and Osama bin Laden before him. The stock market keeps on keeping on. Unemployment has steadily dropped and is now around 6.3%. We are out of Iraq. If Iraq is exploding, then our soldiers aren’t dying right now which is a good thing. They were dying regularly while we WERE KEEPING THE PEACE there. Isn’t that ironic?

            Good news just kills republicans. It makes them crazy.

        • @William, you that’s easy voter fraud? Eric Cantor single handedly stopped every thing Obama tried, not good enough. Lemons again

  24. Eric Cantor loses primary, not conservative enough. Thanks Grumpy Old People, who knew his own party would be the ones to do.

    • @Red

      First, I wanna say “Good riddance to Cantor”. He’s the kind of guy whose head you want to plunge into the toilet in the boy’s locker room in middle school.

      Second. Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter are cheering this win by Bratt who is fiercely ‘anti-amnesty’ aka ‘immigration reform, thereby kissing the Latino vote goodbye for good. Come 2016, they’ll wonder why they lost the presidency by an even bigger landslide, the poor darlings.

      They are so short-sighted.

    • Renowned political strategist Dana Perino is advising Eric Cantor to step down as Majority Leader while she’s being interviewed by bleached blond Megyn ‘truck driver’s delight’ Kelly on Fox News.

      Fox News is killing the GOP but like fools, they continue on and on.

      Good. When your opponents are digging their own hole, get outta the way and let them.

      • @Red

        I read this comment on the Huffington Post and don’t know how accurate it is but if it is, wonderful. I haven’t heard any pundits mention this.

        “Make no mistake…the TP candidate did not defeat Cantor alone…he got a LOT of help from Democratic voters, otherwise, Cantor would have beaten him fairly easily. I didnt think today’s Dems had the stones, but by God, some still do! Flippin’ BRILLIANT!

        Some havent heard yet, that this upset seems to have been the result of a huge number of Democrats voting for Cantor’s TP opponent in this open primary (something perfectly legal and above board for…ever now in open primaries) and they managed to boot from Congress the highest ranking Republican in the House, in the Primary!…their “Rising Star”…being groomed for Boehnor’s replacement as Speaker Of The House someday!

        What a brilliant and brutal case of political hardball, taken straight of of the GOTP playbook. Taste of their own medicine…so, so sweet tasting for the Dems that helped defeat Cantor.”

        A Democratic professor from the same college as David Bratt, who beat Cantor, will run against him in the general. Too funny.

        • @William, I heard that. He was caught clueless. I hope it was planned that’s reassuring. It certainly has created more chaos, which would seem impossible but not for the crazy train. It really puts that seat in play along with NC and Georgia, Senate seats at least. They’re getting pushed to the far right, it’s unsustainable outside certain gerrymandered districts. How that work out for you Eric Cantor? That’s republicans problem out of touch.

      • @William, another lemonade to lemons. Grumpy Old People, strike again. Go lemonheads. I love it when you keep cutting off more and more voters, is there any group other than old, rich, white men you are trying to appeal to?

      • @William, how about the $$$ Parris made off the election lawsuit? Help us get Jonathan Ervin, elected, Rex needs a wake-up call. Well nerd everybody to help us stop him.

  26. Vegas shooters were Bundy loving anti-government Second Amendment perverters. shootings will keep happening in environment full of hate and misinformation like we have today
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/jerad-amanda-miller-las-vegas-shooting-cliven-bundy-anti-government
    I’m stocking up on portable radios, batteries, and unperishable foods, guys, as I’m getting scared to go out. Where will the next random shooting be?
    glad i’m not in l.a. anymore

        • Bundy et al twisted rhetoric results in shootings like Las Vegas, it’s inevitable with the hate message coming out of extreme right media that we will have more shootings like this one.

        • @Eric, why was anyone at the at the welfare king Bundy Ranch. They were not kicked out, they threw their flag on the cops they mudered. You supported that, you have more blood on your hands that’s the result of the crazy never been called out. You the person who wanted to leave our POW to die and your support of domestic terrorists know caused 3 deaths. I find everything about you unamerican. You, Dean Heller, Ted Cruz made them think that’s what you wanted. You, Rush, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity are so shameful and really need to crawl away in disgrace, you keep calling for revolution, some of your people started it, if you are surprised you are the only one the rest of new something bad had to happen. Take responsibility, for you and your group’s activities, you’re not getting away with it.

          • What an inflammatory, untrue statement.

            History fan Red? There was a group that fell prey to the ideology of “THEY are to blame”. Lot along the lines Bill and you pontificate. They thought up a “solution” as well. Yeah, Bill and you; standing by the trains and cheering as your problem is shipped away.

          • @Eric, I’m a big fan of history, so far worst domestic terrorists Tim McVeigh, militias took down federal building, I meant everything I said, your people threw your flag on rhe bodies of our policemen. Everything you and the rest of crazy train who support anti American activities don’t act shocked, you and yours have blood on your hands. History will remember you. Don’t ever judge me, you really need to think about your own MORAL compass, if you can still find it.

          • @Eric, seeing your great concern of Americans being killed in Benghzi, and you judged NO to bringing to bringing our POW back. I’m encouraging hearings into, members of congress who conspired with domestic terrorists and the Bundy Family to kill police officers. I want Cliven Bundy warerboarded to find out what the other domestic terrorists are planning. If they don’t want to go quietly drone them otherwise it’s Gotomino Bay, indefinitely. That’s how we handle our terrorists Bundy and Co. Domestic or foreign.

          • @Eric, wow, so know you’re so devoid of any facts, it’s the Nazi thing, you and Glenn Beck thing the same. Since one of Grandma’s died with her number on her arm. I find your comparison revolting. Do you not understand that in a very inappropriate comment. So NO Jewish people either, that’s offensive.

        • @Eric, you’re going to try to split hairs again, that’s exactly the problem. That whole Bundy thing had to go bad, anyone that supported any part of militias protecting a tax evader you gave some the message this was okay. Don’t try to remove yourself from everything you support.

        • @Eric

          We got one in the Antelope Valley that writes to the Valley Press regularly.

          “What President Barack Obama gives away with the stroke of a pen can only be won back with the barrel of a gun.”

          Darwin M. Ochs
          Lancaster

          This letter was published by the Valley Press a couple weeks ago. It was irresponsible for that right wing rag to publish such stuff and I wrote the Editor and said so.

          I’m sure there are a lot more just like him in the AV. It’s a culture of hate and resentment that infects others as well. But, when called out on it they respond “Who me? I’m a patriot.” or some similar nonsense.

          The Press should not publish any more of his letters but guess what, they do and will continue.

          I wonder of the Los Vegas shooters read that letter. Write the Press and tell them to knock it off. It’s like falsely yelling ‘Fire!” in a crowded theater and it’s not protected speech.

          • “Los Vegas” Where the heck is ‘Los Vegas’? I wish we could go back and edit our mistakes here and in life.

          • DARWIN M. OCHS, 1452 Kerrick st. LANCASTER with Connie and Emma, I don’t I like domestic terrorists neither do my friends

          • DARWIN, CONNIE AND EMMA OCHS, ARE DOMESTIC TERRIORISTS USING THE LDS CHURCH AS THERE HEADQUARTERS.

          • @William, Mr. DARWIN M. OCHS, is another domestic terrorist, this is exactly like COP KILLERS the MILLER’S. I’m not that that scared by foreign terrorism, DARWIN OCHS my neighbor is way disturbing. The A.V. Press won’t stop until they go out of business, which won’t be too long if they don’t get into 2014. Soon they’ll be known for publishing the rants of a domestic terrorist. NO MORE GRUMPY OLD PEOPLE

      • “We are seeing more direct violence as a result of radical groups, and that does concern us,” said Rich Roberts, a spokesman for the International Union of Police. “There seems to be more people out there who are blatantly anti-cop, and heavy exposure through the Internet and other propaganda seems to make people with these violent views feed off each other.”

        Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/9/vegas-police-shooting-has-officers-fearing-a-rise-/#ixzz34BzXYRfl
        Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

  27. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/09/us-usa-nevada-shooting-suspects-idUSKBN0EK1RZ20140609

    I just want to say – I don’t care how much dislike and hate you harbor for the government, police, etc. etc., actions such as this are completely unacceptable. There are means and methods for dealing with corruption and problematic public figures; this is not the way. Armed violence will not help your country, and killing innocent countrymen is idiotic.

    It wouldn’t hurt if the neanderthals still holding onto the “White Superiority” mentality could pull their heads out of their asses either.

    • @Eric, we aren’t the people who hate the government, that’s you and yours. Your people shot the cops and threw down the flag you salute, why are you shocked they did exactly what they thought you wanted. Unpatriotic, traitor

  28. Go ahead and censor me. You’ve proven that you’re just another liberal-biased media outlet. You post 90% lib comments and sensor the rest. You let William call people stupid, but sensor those who call people stupid in a respectful way. Go ahead and watch the USA crumble.

  29. I wonder if Osama bin Laden knew what he was doing when he planned 9/11. Y’know, we can rebuild the buildings and put doors on airplane cockpits and all that but what really happened is that the republicans followed by the tea party went stark raving mad and proud of it, using 9/11 as their shield, their excuse for everything and tearing apart the country in the process. Nineteen terrorists leveraged the entire GOP to bring down this country, one election, one outrageous piece of legislation at a time.

    Think about it. They’ve done more harm to Americans, not directly affected by 9/11, than the terrorists have done since then.

    If you are a poor woman in Texas or other red states and need or want an abortion other women’s health care services, the republicans have shut down most of the Planned Parenthood clinics where they can.

    If you want to eat in a restaurant without seeing a bunch of fat slobs wearing assault weapons, good luck in Texas.

    And, so on. Republican governors in red states that won’t expand Medicaid are going to cost more lives than 9/11 AND Benghazi but who cares if you’re a republican?

    And, Lancaster has Rex Parris suing his neighbor cities and not doing what the residents of Lancaster really want and need; just his pet projects, y’know like a Saddam building lots of palaces. No difference. Same mentality.

    There’s more. Much, much more but the people who need to read that have short attention spans.

    • @William, Osama Bin Laden, wanted to destroy us financially and take our freedom. Bush played right into is hands and shooter Cheney still doesn’t understand the damage he did but won’t shut up still. Now the teabaggers have taken over. We now don’t get our POWs back, because of merit not citizenship. The teabaggers have ruined this country and made us into a joke internationally because they want to be exclusively represented with policies that are destroying the rest of us. Because you wear a Paul Revere outfits doesn’t make you a patriot, loving this country is putting it first not supporting things only you like and then paralyzing the country to get your way?

      • I know, Red

        They were actually saying “Shut down the government” and then when it did and it cost $14 billion and people were blaming them, they denied it.

        Their current stupidity is deleting their tweets demanding that the President get Bergdahl home from back in February. Now, they have a problem with him coming home and are using it to blame the Presdient.

        Whatever the President does, they don’t like it even if he does what they want. They are insane. I’ve been saying that since 2009.

        And, I’m not going to sit back while someone comes here and says both parties are the same or equally to blame. It’s not true.

    • @William, I heard breaking news….we remotely blew up the 5 men who went to Qatar. Darryl Issa, has ahearing planned to investigate. If President Obama cured cancer, that’s a hearing into why he’s wrecking the small business of Cancer center of America, picking winner and losers again.

      • @ Red

        That was good and so true.

        They are like an ‘opposite machine’. Barack says up, they say down.

        You’d they that being wrong so often would give them pause, but they simply redouble their efforts.

        • William—You might give yourself pause and think about when you use words to demean others, such as calling people stupid or idiot. Positive words bring up and negative words bring down.

    • @Eric, now Bowe Bergdahls parents are have to FBI protection because they’re receiving death threats. You didn’t do that but you have a big responsibility for stoking the fire. And I really object to that. There’s a,XML show that repeated last night watch it thats you

    • @Eric, do you recall when proposition 8 passed, some celebrated their victory, while we went on to win the war for equality. I don’t give up, if all you have is old regurgitated policies to take our rights away.

    • I college I took a Mid zeast Poli sci class taught by Reza Aslan. A few days after 9-11 Osama did an interview. They asked him” Do you really think you can beat the US?” . He points at a mountain in the far off distance and states ” See that mountain? I will send 2 Al-Quaida soldiers with a flag up there. The US will send a wave of soldiers to take down that flag. I wont beat them in war but I will bankrupt them to death” and 13 years later we are bankrupted.

    • @Eric aka Grumpy Old Person: when you put conditions on release on release of any American POW, even you.I feel you’re unpatriotic traitor and will call you that. No more Grumpy Old People traitor

        • @sikntired, I wish it were that simple. By definition you don’t think you’re a Grumpy Old Person if your a Grumpy Old person, if you believe you can right turn back time to the 1980, 90.. or so, then you’re a Grumpy Old Person. If you can move on and stop trying to turn back time, then do it if not you’re a Grumpy Old Person, it’s a lens where everything president Obama is bad because of your own ideology no matter what it costs America. It’s the nicest term I could use to those who demand exclusive representation of their policies at the expense of anyone who dares to believes in science, equal rights and I would like to possibly enjoy lunch at chili’s without 30 people with AR15s, I want fajitas not scared kids. If you feel the need to keep proving you’re not, that’s the final clue.

          • @sikntird, not lol, if it some how it makes you feel better to think it’s a conspiracy against you, ok. I’m a person with my own opinions, WOW scary huh? Just a thought if you are say lol before your words is it really all that?

    • Do you know what we need to fight crime?Do you know what we need to fight crime?We need LEAPS.We need LEAPS.We were told it is a crime fighter.We were told it was a crime fighter.For $90,000.00 a month.For $90,000.00 a month.That is $1,080,000.00 a year.That is $1,080,000.00 a year.For 10 years.For 10 years.That is $10,800,000.00.That is $10,800,000.00.For a piece of crap plane owned by Rex’s contributor Frank Visco.For a piece of crap owned by Rex’s contributed Frank Visco.To catch Walmart shoplifters.To catch Walmart shoplifters.Because that piece of crap has done nothing else.because that piece of crap has done nothing else.We need more Sherriffs.We need more Sherriffs. More boots on the ground.More boots on the ground.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.More Sherriffs not more kick backs to Rex’s friends.More Sherriffs not more kickbacks to Rex’s friends.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.

      • Is Rex Parris a Grumpy Old Person? Grumpy yes, Old yes, Person no, 2 out of 3. I say yes, he’s a weird cross between Don Draper and Dexter. My new super pac is called no more Grumpy Old People.

    • @William, Lemonheads. A group that has numerous opportunities to strive forward but find a way to not take advantage. That’s taking lemonade and turning it back to lemons. If I was taking unknown, knowns and making them known, known unknowns, that’s truthiness and I’m Donald Rumsfeld the Secretary of Defense, a Grumpy Old Person and Lemonhead at the same time. If you’re Dick Cheney and the only person you ever shot was your friends face off are you really the person to one come out of the bunker with more advice? We want you at an undisclosed location.

    • @Eric, considering the rising ignorance in the Antelope Valley, do you have a link for that?

    • Hey, Eric

      I caught this comment on a Fact Checker article deconstructing John McCain’s senile flip-flop on the trade for Bergdahl. He knew who the 5 Taliban were back in February but he’s pretending hie didn’t know the ‘details’ until now. What a liar he is.

      But, anyway, this comment below was interesting.

      “I was in Nam in 68, and believed in it until I got back and asked myself what the hell was that all about? Thus along with reading history of USA wars and conflicts and applying that limited, totally way less then heroic job experience, with knowledge of that history; I think I have an handle on what President Obama is trying to do with military.
      My guess, is he too has counted the numbers of wars USA have been involved in since WWII and the numbers we have won, or just hauled out from. Plus, he has probably looked at the results of those wars, as illustrated by former soldiers at VA Hospitals and clinics, our crumbling social economic structure (losing world’s number one middle-class status) falling world rankings in every major group, and determined our return on military conflicts has not been good investments.
      And frankly probably even lousier.

      So all in all in my humble opinion; I agree with him USA (SUPERMAN) has and should leave the building.
      That Rose Garden ceremony which has gathered its own simon says mantra, of being a bad move was very appropriate.

      It fit in with his recent announcement that USA was rolling up the carpets this year in Afghanistan and it showed American people we had gotten back one of our own and we would be giving back all of their stuff and people. When wars end everybody goes home and those Taliban at Gitmo will all be gone very, very soon after this year. Book it. ”

      I liked the part -“…determined our return on military conflicts has not been good investments.” He was in ‘Nam, Eric, in ‘Nam.

      Now, I imagine, if that is President Obama’s thinking, I wonder what the GO/TP/MIC is thinking about our return on investment from constant wars. Notice, I added the ‘MIC’.

      We weren’t in a war during Carter’s years. Clinton got in and out of Bosnia quickly.

      But, both Bushes made a mess out of the Middle East for others to clean up. Remember, Bush 41 let his diplomate, April Glaspie, tell Saddman that we had no dog in his fight with Kuwait as he was amassing troops on the border. Then, Saddam crossed the border. I still can’t believe how that was swept under the rug all these years, sorta like Bush 43’s President’s Daily Brief warning bin Laden determined to attack the U.S. Those 2 idiots played dumb, and allowed foreseen and predictable things to happen, then we went to war. And, you’re whining about the ‘cleanup man’.

      What is it going to take to wake you up, Eric?

  31. US Under Attack by way of Right Wing Media. Our enemies could be using ‘Freedom’
    as a military weapon against us
    .
    When they flew airplanes into our buildings, it took us all by surprise. Now what else could they do? How about take our cherished freedoms, such as the First and Second Amendments, and twist them around to work against us.

    Funnel billions of dollars into a misinformation campaign. Pay really high salaries to on air personalities and media execs whose main skill is to repeat sound bites effectively and reach a large audience (Limbaugh Ailes etc ).

    Conduct this well financed misinformation campaign.

    Then watch as Americans hear almost nothing but false facts and emotionally evocative phrases – “taking away our guns” “secret Muslim” “communism .

    They could be watching as Americans fill up with misinformation and kill each other.

    (Continue reading here http://cityofangels25.blogspot.com/2014/06/us-under-attack-by-way-of-right-wing.html at Chill Hippie Blog ( I know I need to work on that blog title)

    • @KE
      On tonight’s Real Time with Bill Maher, his ending commentary was on the gun culture and those jerks in ‘open carry’ states that were going into restaurants wearing assault weapons.

      “Don’t deny you’re in a heavy relationship with ‘her’ (his gun). You take her out to dinner.” (picture of a fat slob wearing an assault rifle in a fast food joint) You can’t wait to get home and see ‘her’ there all oiled up and wearing only a holster”.

      Bill said “Why are you guys always saying “I’m just exercising my rights or they’ll take them away.” Hey, they’re in the Constitution. They can’t take them away. They’re not like ‘frequent flyer miles'”.

      He called them “Ammosexuals” and showed a picture of another fat hairy slob lying across a bed in his black bikini bottom surrounded by guns and ammo.

      What was so great is that he had that fraud Ralph Reed and 2 other right wingers on plus Anthony Weiner and John Waters. It was so funny, I watched it twice already.

    • @K.E. , after 6 years of this, I can’t take it. Until we start speaking up and taking a stand against the crazy. It’s over when we make it over.

    • You do realize that the whole taking away our guns speech is due to Feinstein flat out saying if she had her way and the votes that she would have everyone turn their guns in right? Or I guess we could ignore Illinois trying to pass a bill that would have outlawed all semi automatic weapons and would have required those weapons turned in. Or any bill put forth by Feinstein where she wants to ban guns based on looks. Or her new bill where basically anyone can say that you are threat and they can come and take your weapons.

      While a lot of people overhype it, it wouldnt be said if people out there hadnt said they were trying to do exactly that and attempting to do it..

  32. Now that “our” last POW is home, the word seems to be spreading that “the war is over”. This is false. The War on Terror is still alive and well, and will likely be used as justification for repeated violation of foreign states’ sovereignty for whatever reason we choose. Afghanistan and Iraq are not “finished”. We have not won in these countries, we are withdrawing. And not even entirely.

    It was announced that of the 8-9K NATO troops to remain in Afghanistan, 1.3-1.7K will remain for “Counter-Terrorism”. JSOC will remain active terrorizing Afghanis, we will remain in combat situations, and more than anything, we will continue training the locals. Considering there is a majority there that harbor ill will towards us after 13 years of destroying their countries, killing and arresting their citizens, teaching them how to fight and providing arms is not exactly the wisest choice.

    In Iraq, the militants we worked so hard to get rid of are still present. Fallujah, a place I had the privilege of entering once, is a continued hotbed of extremism. Iraq is serving as a funnel for Iranian equipment and troops enroute to Syria. Iraq is our hornets nest; we stirred it up and are now leaving the locals to deal with the angry hive.

    In Syria, we emboldened the rebels multiple times, only to pull the rug out from under them, it has costs us plenty of lives. Meanwhile, the Syrian government, Hezbollah, and Iran understand how much lives our meddling is costing. It is not sitting well.

    In Yemen and Pakistan our killer robots cruise the skies, dropping bombs as they please. Its not sitting well with them either.

    Libya is on the verge of its own civil war after we went and forced their government out then refused to help assemble the pieces.

    How many mideast countries gained a new government the past 6 years due to the meddling of our CIA and our sponsored NGOs?

    So no, we have not won the war. If anything, we’ve created plenty of hard feelings and hostile situations that will command our attention for several decades. We are not done in the mid east, and we will be back to another country shortly. Obama the peacemaker, following Dubya the world saviors footpath. Same thing Bill, doesn’t matter whether its a donkey or an elephant at the front of the pack. Their all marching on floors mopped with American blood.

      • No. They should have left him. 6 men died looking for him. How many died capturing those terrorists?

        How should the parents of the soldiers that died feel? Knowing that your son died looking for a deserter, a deserter your government just exchanged multiple enemies and a lump sum of cash for.

        • @Eric, that’s it the moment you went to far on the crazy train, when you are some how so twisted that an American POW, comes home an it’s bad news and his parents are terrorists. Senator McCain told CNN this exact idea was a good idea he would support, that’s only good till we do it once again

          • I never called his parents terrorists, you were in such a furor to steal Jon Stewart’s joke that you just couldn’t help but fling that accusation. I also never said a word about “death panels for troops”, that is a figment of your imagination.

            The evidence shows he deserted his unit. Being that you never served, I could understand how you see that as not being a big deal. I see it as a huge deal.

          • @Eric, you want to choose what POW we bring back, that’s a death panel unpatriotic traitor. You want to leave an American POW there, that says all we need to know. I don’t need Jon Stewart, I have my own thoughts. Unpatriotic traitor

          • Yes, and my decision and thoughts carry so much weight with the US government. Its funny how much “your thoughts” are so lock-step with others. You must be the leader of the movement right?

            You can call me an unpatriotic traitor all you want. I didn’t abandon my unit in theater. All veterans deserve to come home, all soldiers who were sent there. But if they up and left the reservation of their own cognizance, they can return the same way they left. Funny, for someone who has lost family over there, you don’t have an ounce of sympathy for those who lost children while they were looking for the deserter.

          • @Red
            I suspect that Eric has voted for Bush at least once, maybe twice.

            I’ve asked him and he denies a lot of things but not that.

          • @William, Eric went to far this time. I can’t handle this anymore, what kind of unpatriotic crap is this? This is unbelievable, it’s really distributing to see how low some have reduced themselves to. I guess Eric wants death panel’s for U.S.military?

          • @Eric, I didn’t and will never put conditions on getting an American POW back. The end. That’s me, no one else. You Eric aka unpatriotic traitor do that’s the difference between me and you. The end. Stop swift boating Bowe, leave our soldiers and there families out of it. I find your cocky mix of arrogance and misinformation disturbing. Mine didn’t make it make, I’m very sensitive to treatment of families and feel you’re out of line. I’m a Mom of 5, college graduates who pay taxes so excuse me if I thought I could have opinion. From that perspective I want every American POW returned home. End. You place conditions on the return of American soldiers. End. You are less than zero to me, I know by your words, your expiration date passed, I wait for an election cycle or a bad case of flu, Grumpy Old People stop. Just say No more Grumpy Old People. End.

        • @Eric, you believe that someone who lost their child at war, would feel better if we left an American POW to die? By your conditions we’d be bringing back another body bag and you have no second thoughts? And you’re his brother soldier? You present as a case of “I lost my mind when Barack Hussein Obama became President”. This is where you plan from day one to paralyze America and have no bounds to attempt to delegetimize our President. It’s so disturbing that you believe we are so stupid and don’t notice. The only people listening to rich, old, and angry white men who are victims is poor, old, white, angry, men who believe they are victims of the world too. Rush Limbaugh should be sending President Obama gift baskets, how could you make that much$$ without someone to hate? Remember the good old days when Donald Sterling owned the Clippers, gay marriage was illegal, Bowe Bergdal was a prisoner dying, no gay athletes drafted by the NFL, I really miss those days don’t you Eric. If you are a fat, old rich Senator, don’t say that he looks fine while your missing the briefing you’re complaining about not getting to hold a press conference to complain. Passing judgment on this young man and you left early without even knowing all the information. And you feel comfortable with leaving him? John McCain didn’t stay for the briefing he and the other republicans had to be on Fox News Live and left without being briefed, scheduling conflicts? When can America come first not fundraising on Fox, not even with an American POW at stake. If you don’t attend the briefing it’s definitely hard to get briefed, who takes responsibility the Senator who missed it? The POW? No, that’s President Obama fault and here we go again

        • @Eric,now we only bring back POWs that have merit? I thought we decided by citizenship not merit? We would have left John McCain in Vietnam. Would you have stood up to the merit test?

          • Wouldn’t it be something if an investigation revealed that those 6 soldiers that trashed Bergdahl on Fox News are guilty of some dastardly things that disgusted him? And, then they faced courts marshal.

            It wouldn’t surprise me. Everything and everybody Fox News embraces turns out to be a bust. Sarah Palin for starters. Cliven Bundy. And, the list of their presidential hopefuls that became Fox employees and vice versa. Karl ‘Zero return of a hundred million plus’ Rove. Glenn Beck. Carrie Prejean. Joe the Plumber. Rick Scott. Chris Christie. and on and on. Mitt Romney. Hey, I’m getting overwhelmed here. Help!

            Figue it this way. If Fox embraces you, you’re screwed/ The Fox ‘kiss of death’.

      • @William, the GOP is in the sweet spot between ignorance and stupidity. Tomorrow Darryl issa starts the Berdghazi hearings they want to know if Bowe wrote the talking points for Susan Rice to send a message to the IRS about who got deductions from fast and furious because they are the ones who have the truth about the birth certificate and then that would allow them to prove that science doesn’t exist and therefore impeach the president and repeal healthcare and you have a problem with that why? It’s very simple

    • @Eric, can you imagine the possibility you’re wrong? What if the President, knows more information than you? This is the problem exactly, you don’t understand we all get represented not just you. We don’t owe you, you owe America. This is why I don’t trust the GOP with my babies anymore, one wrong turn and Eric decides you should me sentenced to death with the Taliban, no trial. We use to say leave no man behind…and now we say, If Eric says it’s okay? Do we bring them all back or the ones someone picks?

    • @Eric, we don’t bring them all back you prefer a system where someone chooses life for an American soldier, while he’s being held in the country we sent him to and you feel qualified to pass judgment on his life? We get you can’t like anything the President it does but this is a case where maybe you should think before you write anymore.

    • @Eric
      Did you vote for Bush once or twice?

      Bush got us in and President Obama has worked to get us out. There is no ‘winning’ these kinds of wars. We aren’t going to sign a peace treaty with the enemy on the deck of an aircraft carrier.

      What would YOU have us do at this point.

      Bush 41 let Saddam invade Kuwait and then didn’t go after him when the Persian Gulf War ended. Like father, like son. Both made messes that we are still paying for. Whatever Clinton did in Bosnia, you don’t hear much about that, do you? The Bushes have cost us plenty and that other son better not run in 2016. No more of that family.

    • @Eric, where are you traitor? Nothing to say. You are such a db you leave Americans behind? Maybe someone should have left you behind cuz you are unpatriotic traitor? Is that okay with you? When did you become GOD?

    • @Eric, you and the other Grumpy Old People need to get flu. Unpatriotic traitor. I lost mine in Iraq and we don’t pay the ultimate price to be represented by Grumpy Old People or unpatriotic traitors

    • Oh, Eric, Eric, Eric

      “the word seems to be spreading” – Eric

      Is that your version of Fox News’s ‘some say’ and then they make up stuff or repeating right wing talking points as if they were the truth.

      Where did you read or hear “the word seems to be spreading”, on some right wing site that claims that the left is saying that?

      Or, are you mixed up or mixing up on purpose that we will be pulling most combate troops out of Afghanistan by year’s end and misinterpreting that as ‘the word is spreading that the war on terror is over’?

      Who said that? Or, did you pull it out of your …? Well, shove it back up there.

      Are you saying that the same people who are saying the war on terror is over are the same ones who will use it to justify repeated violations…..yada, yada, yada? Or, if it’s the other side, then they aren’t equal or the same.

      Your writing is somewhat incoherent and makes statements of fact that you don’t source and well, you know the rest.

      And, you’re equating the ones who got us into a war in Iraq on lies and willful ignorance with the guy who is doing his best to resolve and leave an unwinnable situation with no support, any which way, from the opposing party. Whatever President Obama does the GOP/TP opposes him automatically. But, you equate him with them. Still eating the yellow snow, I see.

      If he left Bergdahl imprisoned, the republicans would be howling about it right now. He gets him back and they howl about it. They are so ‘fair and balanced’ that they howl about everything he does.

      So, who is your 3rd party favorite now who will resolve all this or are you just barking at the moon and using up bandwidth?

  33. Told ya so. And, it didn’t take long.

    Republicans are fund raising off the Benghazi issue by asking for money from the rubes.

    This is from Media Matters, that horrible left wing website.

    “He [former Florida congressman, Allen West who left the military to avoid a court martial] wrote that in getting Bergdahl released, “America now negotiates with terrorists” — a statement that ignores the country’s long and bipartisan history of such negotiations — and added: “Today is just another sad day where our own Commander-in-chief is more dangerous than the enemies we’re fighting.”

    West segued from calling Obama worse than terrorists because he negotiated the release of a captured soldier to soliciting money for his political action committee, The Allen West Guardian Fund. West wrote: “I have just the solution … Will you make an immediate contribution of $25, $50, $100 or more right away to Allen West Guardian Fund?”

    He won’t be the only one doing that shameless activity.

    “There’s a sucker born every minute” – PT Barnum

    “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” – H. L. Mencken

    Now, this wouldn’t be so bad as there are crazies talking all over the country. But, Allen West is a favored contributor to Fox News which has the highest ratings of any cable news channel. So, chances are you work alongside someone who watches Fox News (if it’s not you and many people deny it so how can Fox have the highest ratings if no one admits to watching it) and swallows the whole thing – hook, line, sinker and the attached discarded car tire.

    Funny how not negotiating with the enemy has kept them from capturing or killing American soldiers for over the last decade. Methinks the republicans beating their chests over this trade for Bergdahl are talking outta their butts, as usual. They are currently deleting all their tweets from a few months ago demanding that we do something to get him home now that they can use it against President Obama.

    It’s because, y’know Jason and Eric, both parties are alike.

    Barnum and Mencken were never more right.

    • Had Bush done the same thing, I’d be over him, so would you. Because the Dems did it, it is acceptable for you.

      Sort of like how you want Bush and Cheney tried for their lies that led to the Iraq war, yet when I mentioned LBJ’s lies in the Gulf of Tonkin, that led to another 12 year war and over 50K+ dead Americans, with many more wounded (some of whom haven’t gotten any assistance from the VA since that war), you called it a “rabbit hole” and refused to discuss it.

      • @Eric, we could get him or not?? Not blah blah blah. President Obama knows if he brings him home it’s bad, if he died then you would say he let him die. So as the commander and chief he did what he had to do. You have a right to be represented, not exclusive representation of any view you have. You put some talking points on here and then when challenged switch to some orher crazy conspiracy theory, we’re done with that, so you can go on criticizing Bowes parents, you think Bob bergdahl looks like a Muslim, I guess if you have a duck and bandana that’s okay. You have gone way to far, it’s over

      • @Eric, what would you do to get your child back? No matter what, any language, anything any time.

      • Speaker Pelosi took trying Cheney and Bush off the table. Did you forget that too?

        LBJ paid for the Vietnam War by not running in 1968. Then, ol’ Tricky Dicky lied about his secret plan to end the war……………….years and lives later.

        What about the Americans that will die because republican governors won’t expand Medicaid in their states? Rural hospitals have closed in Georgia. Are some deaths more significant than others in your mind?

        But, not a peep outta you. I mean, the actions of those governors are deliberate and not the result of some terrorists killing Americans.

        Your criticisms of the GOP are so mild, you could feed them to newborns.

        You don’t want to go back 5-10 years to discuss Bush but you want to time travel to the 60s to go after LBJ. That is telling.

        • Whats to discuss? Two guilty parties that’ll never be held accountable. I care about people dying in Georgia. I care about people dying in Yemen. Our actions in Yemen though will undoubtedly lead to more dead Americans elsewhere. From what I’ve been told, their working on fixing healthcare. They aren’t working on reducing extremism in foreign countries.

          At least my criticism of the GOP exists. Listening to you, one would assume the Democrats have every problem solved, the Dems do no ill. I’m glad to see that a Democrat “paid” by not being re-elected…

          • @Eric
            You’d have more credibility if you criticized the GOP yourself for some of its egregious behavior instead of criticizing me for criticizing them. That’s pretty lame.

            Have I ever said that the Democrats were perfect or that they have every problem solved? You bitch about President Obama’s use of drones and you defend or ignore the even more outrageous stuff the right does.

            You make up stuff like that that is so reminiscent of what the right wingers do. You talk like a right winger. You walk like a right winger. You are a right winger who pretends otherwise.

            I was very critical of Obama, Pelosi and Reid in 2009 for being so willing to work with the recalcitrant republicans who vowed to never compromise.

            But, after his first year, I concluded that somehow, someway, President Obama was getting things done despite the fiercest opposition that the GOP could muster against him and without appearing to break a sweat.

            I thought that was pretty cool. At the same time around the end of 2009, I also concluded that the GOP, having been taken over by the most extreme right wingers wasn’t merely the loyal opposition but a party with a lot of pathologies. And, since then, they have proven me correct.

            They’ve done some of the most outrageous and idiotic things like holding Obamacare hostage and shutting down the government in an attempt to stop it.

            That you and Jason are so blithely oblivious to the most outrageous behavior and say ‘both sides are hypocrites’ is simply jaw drawing amazing.

            Has President Obama done everthing perfectly? Of course not. He’s had to negotiate the roughest rapids imaginable. Now, the nuts on the right are trying to conjure up reasons to impeach him like they did with Clinton. They never learn.

            But, that just goes right by you and Jason, in one ear and out the other.

            Doesn’t the fact that the GOP votes ‘NO’ on bills they authored or previously supported just to oppose the President when he supports those same bills alert you to their insanity? Sheesh. Are you blind and deaf?

      • @Eric, you stood by and did nothing and now you feel entitled to have all your ideas implemented, didn’t win any elections or ballot measures, and now you feel you deserve individual representation, your one of all of us. America is all for one, not all about, Eric, Eric, what’s best for all, not you Eric

  34. Haven’t you noticed lately that some republican lawmakers say things like “I’m no scientist but I believe…………….”?

    That’s right. What they ‘believe’ is what the law should be and they vote consistent with their ‘beliefs’ but not science. Marco Rubio doesn’t ‘believe’ in man-caused global warming.

    Michele Bachmann doesn’t ‘believe’ we should vaccinate young girls for a virus.

    And, so on. Their ‘unprovable’ and ‘imaginary’ and ‘cherry picked’ beliefs are what they base their votes on.

    And, Jason and Eric think there’s no difference between the 2 parties. And, until they acknowledge that there is, indeed, a difference their comments will not go unanswered.

    And, the ‘bird’ doesn’t think that such comments or ones I post about voter suppression and other political matters which affect our lives aren’t as ‘substantive’ as her mindless, one-sentence comments on various crime and accident articles on this site.

    I doubt if she read this far, so here goes. Why would someone unwittingly pick a username of an animal with a teeny tiny brain and one that is more related to dinosaurs than to modern day humans? Go figure.

  35. They’re at it again.

    There is a photo of Hillary Clinton on the cover of People Magazine, outdoors standing behind a patio chair with her hands resting on the back of the chair.

    The Drudge Report writes that she’s using a ‘walker’. Now, the right wing echo chamber will repeat that till it becomes a fact in their alternate universe.

    Just like they repeat the misinformation about the IRS, Benghazi, the President’s birth place and religion, and nearly everything else. If a republican tells you it’s Wednesday-BETTER CHECK.

    These people vote. They live among us in the Antelope Valley. And, some of them comment here on the Antelope Valley Times and in the Valley Press.

    • Drudge Report writes nothing. It is nothing more than a link site, but hey, fact checking. I get it.

      • @Eric

        What you don’t seem to get is that nonsense that Drudge, Limbaugh and Fox News gets into the bloodstream and before you know it, tea partiers and some republicans firmly believe it and vote accordingly.

        Something like 40% of republicans believe President Obama is a Kenyan Muslim non-citizen. Where did they get that information.

        I haven’t seen any polls but I bet a good number of right wingers now think Hillary Clinton has brain damage just like many of them believed that she killed Vince Foster and is a lesbian.

        On MSNBC last night, there was a feature on how in China a citizen can’t mention Tienanmen Square and what happened there. Reminded me of how we cannot mention George Bush and his responsiblity for the disasters under his watch. Heck, neither he nor Chaney was at the 2012 republican convention and weren’t mentioned. They have a hissy fit is you say that Bush was responsible for any of the messes President Obama has had to clean up. Plus, they have a distorted memory of Ronald Reagan who wouldn’t stand a chance in a GOP primary today.

        Go ahead and defend the GOP and take the consequences on your credibility.

        • Did MSNBC also mention the protests that were going on in Hong Kong at the same time, or was that omitted? I’m pretty sure the Democrat party does a great job of making sure everybody knows how much Bush and Cheney are at fault, there isn’t an article on the internet that mentions either one where the point isn’t brought up.

          They have a hissy fit, the same way the Dems do when you blame them. There is a similarity for you Bill. I’m not defending the GOP, there are very few of them around here, and oddly enough, they aren’t disagreeing with the argument of similarity when it gets put forward. Huh, I wonder if that is cause they disagree, or because they would have to side with you in order to defend themselves.

          • @Eric

            Cheney is still on Fox defending the war in Iraq and criticizing the President at every turn.

            So, when republicans start admitting that it was a big effing lie to invade Iraq, then maybe we will stop saying they were to blame. About 40% of republicans still believe we found WMDs in Iraq thanks to Fox News and other right wing media.

            Did the Cheney/Bush administration go to war based on lies and a determination to invade Iraq BEFORE 9/11?

            Did the Cheney/Bush administration cut taxes while invading Iraq and putting the costs off budget?

            Did Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld/Rice and others neglet to consider the costs of health care for millions of veterans during and after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and dump the problem on President Obama along with the auto industry and home building industry collapses, bank failures, foreclosures, and other economic meltdowns. Then, they bitched because more people were on food stamps BECAUSE OF THE MESS THEY LEFT.

            And, they lie and distort like their source, Fox News. I’m sure you’ve heard some republican claim that gasoline was under $2.00/gal when President Obama took office and then bitched when it went over $4.00. Well, it was around $4.00/gal in the summer of 2008 while Bush was still twiddling his thumbs in the Oval Office and only went down later because of a world-wide recession and lowered demand which drove the price down. That’s how the GOP operates. It’s a lie factory.

            And, don’t you dare say anything about the Democrats having a majority in both houses of Congress for 2 years. Al Franken didn’t take his oath till around June 2009, then Ted Kennedy passed away in August and Scott Brown, the male model (R), took his oath in January 2010. A replacement was appointed to replace Kennedy till Brown took office in late September. So, there was only a short window of time when the Democrats had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and not the 2 years that Fox News and republicans keep lying about.

            Did Cheney/Bush resist any investigation into 9/11 and only testified together in secret with no transcripts or under oath?

            Did Cheney/Bush really show incompetence during the Katrina aftermath?

            Did Bush sign a law making home mortgages easier for low income borrowers? BTW In early 2000 Bush signed an executive order making filing for bankruptcy harder for individuals. So, when Enron collapsed, the employees who were forced to own Enron stock in their retirement funds not only lost that, their jobs, but the new bankruptcy rules screwed them a 3rd time. Yeah, those republicans, real patriots, real Americans.

            The Demcrats just can’t compare.

            Did the 2008 Great Recession happen on Cheney/Bush’s watch? And, did the stock market also crash in 1987 during the Reagan ripoff? Yeah, them republicans are sure good business managers. Not good with wars either. Not good with taking care of veterans when they cut their funding.

            Did Cheney/Bush violate international law by torturing prisoners?

            Did Speaker Pelosi take impeachment off the table when she became Speaker of the House unlike the despicable republicans who are looking for any excuse to start impeachment proceedings in the House?

            Did Mitch McConnell have a meeting with other republicans the day of President Obama’s first inauguration to discuss making him a 1 term president and do every thing they could to cause the President to fail?

            Did the republicans in the Senate filibuster more than any time in our history, including judges and other appointments?

            Did the republicans in the House and Senate oppose bills that they had authored themselves or even amended them just because it would give President Obama a ‘win’ even if it was detrimental to the country?

            In his last farewell press conference, Bush once more said that he ‘inherited’ a recession but the GOP’s hair goes up in flames when we point out what President Obama inherited.

            They are hypocrites of the highest order.

            And, calling it the ‘Democrat’ Party instead of the ‘Democratic Party’ reveals just how much you run with the republicans. You’re just too embarrassed to admit it.

            Did you vote for Bush once….or twice? Or are you too embarrassed. Were you aligned with the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth that trashed John Kerry? Even in this conservative Antelope Valley, hardly anyone will admit to voting for Bush.

            Vietnam veterans got treated disgracefully and they were drafted. Over the years, the military has earned well-deserved respect. But, with the Swift Boat characters and now the soldiers who are calling Bergdahl a deserter before he’s even home and questioned are doing their best to soil the good name of the military.

            Wasn’t Fox News broadcast constantly in Iraq and Afghanistan? More and more we see soldiers acting disrespectfully toward the Commander in Chief. They are doing damage to the military’s image just like rabid Christians do to Christianity. You’ve got former military officers on Fox News saying some really outrageous things as well.

            Bottom line is this. A lot of the problems we are dealing or have dealt with in the last 5 years are the result of Cheney/Bush, the GOP and the tea party and they won’t get out of the way so we can enact some sensible solutions.

            After we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when President Obama took office we have had steady if modest job growth for the last 4 years or so, the stock market has doubled and has reached new highs, the Affordable Care Act is now working in the states that cooperatied while people in some red states are at risk of serious illness or death because their republican governors refuse to expand Medicaid

            But, you, Jason and others want to turn a blind eye to that. Like I’ve said before, you guys are like talking to ‘birthers’ who simply ignore any evidence that is contrary to your world view.

            So, Eric, did you vote for Cheney/Bush once or twice?

  36. Regarding Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, I learned a few things today. I don’t usually follow the intricate details of our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan or the legal wrangling over Guantanamo.

    The 5 guys traded for Sgt. Bergdahl were not ‘terrorists’ as defined by our military as terrible as their actions have been. They are ‘enemy combatants’. But, good ol’ Fox News and the right wingers conflate the two for fund raising or whatever.

    The Taliban hasn’t been blowing up civilians in other countries but just fighting American and other foreign troops in Afghanistan. The Taliban isn’t al Qaeda which does those things. But, of course, Fox News and the right wingers conflate the two to fund raise from their ignorant base.

    As for Sgt. Bergdahl, we don’t know all the facts yet. Thousands of returning soldiers have committed suicide and have had other psychological problems once safely home in the United States. Why is it so unthinkable that a soldier would have a mental health issue causing some aberrant behavior while in a foreign country under duress? And, why does Fox News and its right wing sheep care about this 1 soldier running with the story on every show while ignoring the other more disturbing stories of the tragic suicides of so many psychologically wounded soldiers? Ratings? Perhaps Fox News is more interested in its ratings than anything else on earth.

    But, you know Fox News and the right wingers. They can take the First Lady’s effort to improve the health of our children and make it into some communist, totalitarian plot or worse.

    Thousands of American citizens, unfortunate enough to live in conservative red states whose governors refuse to expand Medicaid, will suffer serious illnesses and/or deaths while Fox News and the ‘fright wingers’ obsess* over the 4 deaths in Benghazi done by terrorists. I guess it’s OK if a republican governor is responsible for American deaths for denying health care to the working poor and indigent but when terrorists kill Americans who willing put themselves in harm’s way, it’s the fault of the President.

    In what universe do the republicans and Fox News make any sense whatsoever? And, Jason and Eric think that both parties are the same. Those 2 are as unable to be rehabilitated as the Hannitys, O’Reillys, Cheneys, Coulters, McCains and the rest of the American al Qaeda.

    *ob·sess
    [ əb séss ]
    1.never stop thinking about something: to occupy somebody’s thoughts constantly and exclusively
    2.be preoccupied: to think or worry about something constantly and compulsively

    I know my comment will be too much for ‘bird’ to comprehend. bird can only write 1 or 2 sentences at most, so reading a comment over 25 words will tax her/him excessively. So, don’t read my comments, bird, and save yourself from overexertion. There will be a crime story tomorrow that you can ‘obsess’ about, so don’t worry your little noggin. Poor thing. You never did discuss the substance of my comments, did ya? I should try to write at a 5th grade level to make it easier for you and a few others here. But, I won’t. Did you enjoy the 5th grade, bird? Both times?

    • William, Its not ok if a Republican is responsible for American deaths just like its not ok when a Democrat is responsible for American deaths. You seem to ignore that people are upset over Benghazi because the government knew there were problems there, did nothing before the attack, did nothing during the attack, then tried to blame it on a video when everyone and their mother knew it wasnt over a video.

      As far as Berghdal goes, the guy deserted his post and sought out the Taliban. The guy apparently was ashamed to be an American wanted to renounce his American citizenship and was asking his superiors what would happen if sensitive equipment disappeared. Weird how they kept him for alive for 5 years no? His father has been an advocate for releasing prisoners from Gitmo for years. A lot of things dont add up here.

      And as far as them being “enemy combatants” and not “terrorists” just because they are labeled as one doesnt mean they arent the other. These 5 terrorists arent low level guys. Two of them were top echelon leaders and wanted for war crimes by the UN. Others have ties to AQ. This is why people have an issue with the swap. These guys are dangerous and will continue to be a danger to Afghans and Americans alike.

      • Deserters deserve no sympathy. Especially not when they leave their post in the midst of night, leaving their comrades to whether the storm. 6 deaths can be attributed to the search for this kid, that is 6 other parents who will never see their children come home. How many died trying to find and arrest the men we released? How much assistance did the cash payment that went with the prisoner swap provide? We just released 5 senior element leaders back into the show, don’t expect their going to take a seat on the pine. Wonder if any of them are already en route to Syria yet.

        Berghdal wasn’t a POW. He was not separated from his unit and captured during combat. He was not a downed pilot who was captured. He was a deserter, who willingly sought out the enemy. Men he had trained with, whose back he was supposed to have, he left to fend for themselves. This man better have something worthwhile to offer for all the blood he has cost.

        • @Eric/Jason, you both wanted us to leave an American soldier behind when be had a chance to bring him home. That is exactly what I can’t take anymore, when did you get the idea that you got to decide what POWs we exchange? No one exclusively represents any one person. You both know better than Stan mccrystal?

          • Red, he WILLINGLY left his unit to seek out the Taliban. He wasnt captured fighting them. How is it he lived in captivity for 5 years without being killed while the Taliban tried their hardest to kill American soldiers every chance they got. Weird how the Taliban tried their hardest to kill Marcus Lutrell while he was being guarded by Afghans yet Bergdhal is allowed to live for 5 years? That doesnt add up in any way. Weird how after he walked away in the middle of the night to be “captured” by the Taliban, that soldiers were attacked in a way that showed the attackers had been trained by someone with knowledge of how to do it that way. Something that wasnt happening before he walked away.

            This “hero” cost other parents their children. Is that right that his selfish actions cost other parents their children? Read statements by his fellow soldiers. They were there, they know what happened.

        • @Eric, you know this how? And you know without a doubt and he is sentenced to death. So you send my 20year old to war, he’s held for 5years and you have now decided to leave him??? Because him or his family hasn’t acted how you want? How can you be serious? You are so unpatriotic anymore it’s sad.

          • You read the testimony of his fellow soldiers? The desertion note?

            Its a volunteer military Red. He volunteered to join the Army, picked a MOS that would put him in the combat field, then suddenly developed an objection to it? You also think he spent 5 years in some dark, dreary cave, repeating nothing but his name, rank, and serial number?

            My last two tours were as an NCO. I told my Marines flat out; “If you have a problem with what we are doing, and you think it is going to prevent you from doing your job, let me know now so you aren’t putting the rest of us in harms way.”

            He subjected his entire squad to harm when he left them. Its a cowardly move. There was a desertion note. There was a radio intercept of a Taliban/Al-Qaeda message that referenced an unarmed American soldier SEEKING out Al-Qaeda. He didn’t just desert, he outright betrayed. No, there was no price worth bringing him back.

          • @Eric, this is the day you went over the edge.You have to know. I’m not leaving any American soldier behind. Sitting in the comfort of my home, I refrain from passing judgment on how they do their jobs. But of course you know the “real” story. That’s why we can’t vote for Grumpy Old People, we don’t trust you.

      • @Jason. Boy, oh, boy. Your reading comprehension is so poor.

        I didn’t know that there was a technical distinction between ‘terrorists’ and ‘enemy combatants’ till yesterday and it seems that you still don’t.

        It’s typical for you and those in the Fox News/right wing echo chamber to not be able to form clear distinctions and ‘everything is everything else’ in your minds.

        Of course, they are both bad guys but there are rules of war (which I think are absurb in some ways) and we deal with one group differently than another.

        Just a short time ago, senators McCain, Ayotte and Inhofe were calling for Bergdahl to be released. Once he was, they turned on the President as usual. Those silly republicans, always opposing, always certain as they jump from one position to its opposite but never in doubt.

        Funny thing is, George Bush went AWOL while in the TANG and became president. So, there’s still hope for Bergdahl’s future. Isn’t that interesting?

        Aren’t Bush, Cheney and Rice also wanted for war crimes?

        You’re upset over Benghzi because Fox News has been beating that drum for almost 2 years. Meanwhile, all the other deaths at embassies before President Obama took office didn’t get the same ‘outrage’ treatment from Fox or you. Why is that? Why are you being led around by the nose by the Fox/right wing echo chamber?

        Why isn’t the denial of expanded Medicaid and its impact on the poor drawing the outrage that Benghazi is? Are you or Fox News going to express outrage when 4 Americans die to lack of health care? At the republican convention in 2012, they applauded letting an uninsured person be denied health care at an ER.

        And, you are stuck like glue to that side of the aisle.

        • Nobody is allowed to point out a mistake unless they point out every other mistake the Republicans have made. “What about this…” “what about that…” Although, I must admit, it is entertaining to read.

          • The concept of being a man has left the Republican party. The concept of being a bigger man never gained a foot with the Democrats.

            One side using the others poor behavior as justification for their own; we are now entering year 30+ of this behavior, and it should be expected to continue for 30+ more.

          • It’s the hypocrisy of the republicans, Robert.

            hy·poc·ri·sy noun \hi-ˈpä-krə-sē also hī-\

            1: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel

            Full Definition of HYPOCRISY
            1: a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion.

            Doesn’t that definition accurately describe how the republicans have ignored such things as taking no action on a PDB warning of a possible attack a month before 9/11, invading Iraq based on lies and a predisposition to do so many months before 9/11, costing hundreds of thousands of lives including civilians AND THEN TURNING AROUND AND HAVING COUNTLESS HEARINGS AND INVESTIGATIONS ON 1 ATTACK ON AN AMERICAN CONSULATE in a pathetic effort to bring down a president of the other party?

            But, wait. There’s more. The republicans and Fox News want to pre-emptively bring down Hillary Clinton with the Select Committee on Benghazi because they are so afraid that she might run and win in 2016. And, fear is what drives the republican party nowadays. They are so crazy, that on Fox News, many of their on-camera critters think that Hillary had Monica Lewinsky go public recently in a conspiratorial effort to get that out of the way before her possible campaign in 2016. Yeah, like Monica and the Clintons are in regular communication and are plotting such things.

            The Democrats are dealing with an opposing party and its propaganda machine, Fox News, that have gone over the edge. It will only get worse in the coming months.

            Maybe you should watch SpongeBob for entertainment, Robert. It’s not too complicated.

          • @William
            Thank you for the definitions! By the way, I’m enjoying Sponge Bob as we speak! Woooshhh! Your right, way less complicated.

        • So because they are enemy combatants they cant be terrorists? Like I said before just because they are termed enemy combatants doesnt mean they arent terrorists.

          Ever stop to think that they might be against the swap because of who was released and the fact that the swap didnt follow the law? Weird how Feinstein isnt happy about the way things were done but no word on that.

          Youre right Bush did go AWOL. He got preferential treatment because of his family during that time as well. Tryin gto compare Bush going AWOL in the States due to preferential treatment to a guy willfully walking away from his post and seeking at the enemy is absurd.

          You mean that Kuala Lumpur War Crimes commission started by an anti Semite which has no jurisdiction anywhere in the world. That really compares to the UN wanting these guys for killing thousands of Muslims.

          What other deaths at embassies? Look at the embassy attacks under Bush and tell us how many Americans died during those attacks. Forget that Ill tell you how many died, 1 Yemeni -American who was there to get approval for her Yemeni husband to enter the US. I dont recall any of these attacks being blamed on something other than what they were, which once again, is a big reason at the outrage. Youre wondering why they didnt get the same amount of outrage, thats exactly why. We werent lied to about the reason behind the attacks and the only American that was killed just happened to be there.

          You mean like the outrage I feel right now with the deaths of veterans due to the VA being a complete mess partially due to Republicans?

          You talk about being glued to one side of the aisle and are a perfect example of that. Blame one side for everything while ignoring your party’s hand in it. Ignore the misdeeds by Democrats and slam the Republicans for all of theirs.

          • Bill is so firmly entrenched in the Democratic party that not only does he drive a blue Prius, it is insured by Progressive. Bah dum tish!

          • Another lame comment by ‘Eric, The Clown*’.

            *a reference to a Seinfeld episode.

          • So, Jason, you agree that republicans are partially responsible.

            You sit back and go after both sides. Fine.

            I’m a Democrat and have determined that the republicans are much more responsible for many of our country’s problems and will willingly obstruct any and all solutions to those problems. They vote against programs that they originated or previously supported only because the President signed on to them. Their demi-god, Ronald the Reagan, granted amnesty to illegal aliens back in the 1980s but now Boehner won’t even come to the table to compromise on immigration reform. They are simply nutty. I thought Reagen was infallible in addition to being forgetful.

            How are Democrats supposed to deal with such a party on the other side of the aisle? Have you ever given that a moment’s thought? It’s downright impossible. I don’t know how President Obama can maintain his calm, gentleman demeanor dealing with the drunk Boehner or that snake Mitch McConnell whose main purpose in life was to prevent a second Obama term. Well, he failed at that and he harmed the country in the process, blocking appointments and presiding over a record-breaking number of filibusters. But, in your head, the 2 parties are the same.

            The 2 parties aren’t symmetrical. One has become downright pathological during the last decade or even longer. The GOP thought they were using the tea party to garner some votes and the tea party won and drove the party over the cliff. Are you oblivious to that?

            I have no duty to you or anyone else to criticize the Democrats for their misdeeds. They have failed at times. But, they’ve failed in attempting positive outcomes for the whole country, from the environment to social services. And, the Democrats aren’t attempting to suppress the voting with laws and changes in policies specifically designed to discourage Democrats from voting by limiting days and hours, moving polling locations to inconvenient locations. It’s not just about a photo ID which they keep throwing up as a distraction. In-person voter fraud is almost entirely non-existent given the number of people actually voting in the hundreds of millions. In some states where new GOP regulations were brought before the courts, they had to admit they had no evidence of voter fraud convictions to offer the courts. But, they play games like, ‘someone who died is still registered’. Well, duh, did he/she vote? I don’t know what the process is to purge the registrations of people who die or move out of a district. I’ve moved many times and never called the registrar to tell them. Have you done so? But, the right wingers use stuff like that to scream ‘voter fraud’. They cleverly avoid discussing imposing tighter restrictions on absentee voting, however. It’s probably because, although absentee voter fraud would be much simpler, tighter restrictions would likely impact republican voters more.

            In a previous comment that you replied to I listed a bunch of questions to see what you agreed with. Those questions, and more, were what separate the 2 parties. Who supports or opposes such things as women’s reproductive rights or raising the minimum wage or marriage equality. Those might not be big issues for you, but they are for those they affect. And, the republicans are on the side of opposing expanded rights and improving the lot of the working class. Their main priorities are cutting taxes for the wealthy which have been done many times but where are all the jobs that these so-called ‘job creaters’ created from having their taxes lowered?

            There have been breakdowns in government since forever but the republicans have used every single thing to try and bring down the President even when there’s no there there. So, what was the outcome of the BIG IRS ‘SCANDAL’? The only group denied a tax exemption was a liberal group? Do you think that Fox News or the republicans will repeat that over and over.

            The republican failures starting with Reagan’s huge tax cuts for the wealthy, deregulation, increasing the debt and so on are still problems we are dealing with. That’s when the income gap began increasing dramatically and when wages began their stagnation in this country. And, who is fighting raising the minimum wage? Guess, Jason. Take one guess? Or do you need 2 guesses?

            My main point was the ‘outrage’ factor and how the republicans use it to con their base. Like I wrote before, many more than 4 Americans will die because some republican governors refuse to expand Medicaid in their states. (as a side note, so will many die because the NRA owns the GOP) But, the republicans will scream ‘BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI!’ in the same insane way that the ‘birthers’ were asking for the long form birth certificate when we all knew from the start that they wouldn’t accept it when it was produced. And, they didn’t. They won’t accept any findings of the Select Committee if they are essentially what the previous hearings found. They fuss and fume over the President saying ‘acts of terror’ the next day instead of their ‘Frank Luntz Approved’ ‘terrorist acts’. And, you think the parties are the same.

            Same with Benghazi. After all the previous hearings that didn’t satisfy them, the Select Committee won’t do it either. Then, they’ll repeat their constructed narrative until their stupid base believes it, just like around 30-40% of republicans believe we found WMDs in Iraq and that the President was born in Kenya and is a Muslim. Yeah. Both parties are the same.

            Given their delusions based on lies and intentional misinformation, I will continue to call them out. The Democrats can’t compare with that kind of insanity that is running the republican party. No way.

            That you and Eric can’t tell the difference is quite telling. You 2 probably eat the yellow snow because it’s ‘snow’ and all snow is the same. What’s the diff?

            The ‘2 parties are the same’ is actually the source of your and my disagreements. I just provided examples of how the 2 parties differ without having to debate each issue. I happen to prefer the position that the Democratic Party has on most issues and so does a majority of the country. Without having to go into the issue itself, something like 80-90% of Americans polled want background checks on all gun purchases but who is blocking that from happening? The same folks who fight every gun control legislation have also fought the woman’s right to choice, using the Bill of Rights for their own agendas and ignoring it when they don’t like it. They do that kind of cherry picking with the Constitution, the Bible and just about everything else. The Constitution doesn’t contain the words God, Jesus, Christianity, etc. but you would think it did listening to some conservatives. That’s why I am pushing back every chance I get. They can’t be allowed to run things in this country as long as they continue doing such things. The Democrats are no match for their persistent obsessions to run the country according to THEIR rules even when they are in the minority.

          • Eric acts like being ‘firmly entrenched in the Democratic Party’ is a bad thing.

            FDR. JFK. LBJ (civil rights, in case poor Eric forgot).

            It was pointed out recently that Jimmy Carter for all the criticism had 4 years without us being in a war.

            Bill Clinton of the ‘Peace and Prosperity 90s’ while gettin’ a little on the side. He’s more popular than ever and his job approval rating was in the mid-60% DURING IMPEACHMENT. Not bad. Who is your 3rd party candidate with those kind of numbers? This is a representive democracy after all and the president below is a product of that.

            And, Barack Obama, who has slowly but surely pulled this country out of the hole that George Bush left behind and getting a health care bill passed that only has taken many decades to finally happen, the stock market reaches new highs regularly, ended our misbegotten war in Iraq and soon Afghanistan, and DESPITE THE MOST INTENSE OPPOSITION BY THE OPPOSING PARTY IN MY LIFETIME. It’s like he’s doing all that while carrying the GOP/TP on his back up a steep hill and without breaking a sweat. Has he made mistakes? Sure has. So have you, Eric. Thinking he could work and compromise with Boehner and McConnell right from the start was a big mistake but he made the attempt. And, I criticized him for that during his first year in office.

            So, Eric, I’m in good company even with the worst of the Democrats it’s still better than what the republicans think is their best – a senile old man who was used by corporate American for their benefit and the country’s harm.

            Call me a Democrat or a Liberal or a Progressive, Eric while you sit on the fence like a turtle on a fence post. Makes ya wonder how they got there and the poor thing is stuck there forever.

            Regards,
            Proudly Entrenched Democrat

          • William, a lot of those reason are why I dont support the Republicans.

            When Im talking both parties are the same, Im talking they are both hypocritical. You bring up the Republicans supporting something then flip flopping when it involves the President. The senior Democrat leadership in DC was pushing for equal pay for woman, yet their own staffs didnt reflect what they were pushing. How are you going to push for something when you arent practicing what you preach?

            Another case or two of being hypocritical close to home. Leland Yee, one of the biggest gun control Senators in the state, gets caught trying to traffic automatic weapons and missile launchers in exchange for campaign donations.

            Pelosi slams “greedy capitalists” while being one of the richest people in the Senate. Guess that winery she owns doesnt fit her narrative.

            And many more people will die because the NRA owns the GOP? Many more people will die because neither side is doing anything about mental health. Notice how when a shooting happens, the first thing anti gun Democrats do is blame the weapon? Never the person pulling the trigger or the issues that caused them to pull the trigger. The Isla Vista shooting is a perfect example of that. Kid had been undergoing therapy since he was 8 years old, obviously had issues. Makes videos talking about killing and suicide which prompt his parents to call police weeks before the shooting happens. Police show up, interview him and leave, without watching the videos that were the reason they were there. What does everyone go after? The gun, despite the police having the chance to prevent this from happening, the fact he stabbed 3 people to death and the fact he used his car as a weapon. Absolutely ZERO talk about fixing the broken system which allowed this to happen and other means used to kill, they go after the gun. Expanded background checks wont work without fixing the broken system thats already in place to prevent these types of things from happening. Just like more gun control laws wont work when the laws already on the books arent properly enforced. Thats why law abiding citizens who are gun owners have a hard time getting behind that kind of stuff. Almost everything that has been proposed is already covered by laws not enforced.

          • Jason gets it. The end result is the same; yet Bill is caught using the flash issues as “Look how different!”

            Its not that you disagree with us Bill, its that you are offended that you are being lumped in with the same people you have so much disdain for. Yes, they are marching us towards the same objective. But yeah, their ties are different colors, so feel like you are doing something different.

            Government waste. A product of both parties.

          • @ Eric
            Your last reply below made so little sense, I recommend that you download some software that alerts you when that happens so you can correct it.

            As for the gun issue, the NRA and like-minded supporters of the ‘gun culture’ have made it so difficult to enact reasonable laws that there are as many, if not more, guns as people in the United States and look at how safe it is in schools, army bases, churches, restaurants and other public spaces. Not to mention how many of our presidents have been shot. It puts the lie to the NRA claim that the answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. How stupid ol’ Wayne is. Our presidents are surrounded by Secret Service agents with guns and are good marksmen, yet our presidents still get shot and/or killed anyway. And, so do cops. And, an abundance of well armed soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan should make them invincible according to La Pierre, shouldn’t it. When the gun manufacturers are committed to selling as many guns as possible and the NRA opposes gun control legislation, it’s not a stretch to realize that there will be guns in the hands of many, many of the wrong people just because of the sheer numbers and availability.

            The NRA answer is MORE GUNS. It’s insanity. More guns make it more likely that mentally ill people and other irresponsible gun owners such as Dick Cheney will use them to injure or kill others.

            But, the same idiotic republcian lawmakers who point to mental illness as the cause of gun violence are the same idiots that won’t fund mental health. That’s how the GOP operates. They oppose abortion while wanting to defund contraception for women and socieal services for women with children.

            I think I’ve told you to pick any issue and that GOP is either hypocritical such as the above examples or self-contradictory or just plain stupid.

            It’s laughable that gun owners say that new gun control legislation burdens ‘law abiding gun owners’. Well, duh. How do they expect the government to know who is or isn’t law abiding without 100% background checks on every gun sale? We should just take their word for it. Really?

            Look at those a-holes in Texas who carried assault rifles into restaurants so that some restaurant chains are banning them from the premises. There is a mentality with some gun owners that is unacceptable in a civilized society. Same with the supporters of that Bundy character.

            Remember if you can that the first 3 words of the Second Amendment are “A well-regulated……” yet the gun lobby totally ignores it.

            Are you and Jasan both clueless as to what has happened to the GOP in the last few years. It has been hijacked by the nutty tea party. There isn’t anything comparable on the Democratic side.

            Where are these 3rd party candidates of yours that have all the answers? Until such time, I’ll go with the Democrats.

            Right now, the choice is between Knight who has done zilch in Sacramento and Strickland, a nutjob who ran on repealing Obamacare. That will win him votes from his dumb base but it ain’t gonna happen.

            Do you and Jason realize that there will be serious untreated illnesses and/or death of many Americans because some republican governors refuse to expand Medicaid in their states. Many more than the 4 that died in Benghazi and the republican governors will be responsible for knowingly causing those deaths compared to what terrorists did in Benghazi. But, where is the outrage and attention focused by the GOP and Fox News.

            It’s things like that that make your and Jason’s arguments so pathetic. That you were both in the military and trained to shoot while still young men surely didn’t provide you with much wisdom and it’s apparent each time you two comment.

            Why isn’t your criticism directed at the GOP for shutting down the government, foolishly voting to repeal Obamacare over 50 times, filibustering much needed judgeships and other nominees, voting to cut social services from the poorest while giving tax cuts to the richest who, incidentally, aren’t creating jobs like the GOP pretends they are the ‘job creators’. They aren’t in the business of creating jobs, just profits. Look at Mitt Romney’s ‘success’ at buying out companies, loading them with debt, then firing people due to the debt the loaded on the company. He is one sick ticket and it’s a blessing that he isn’t president. He is a sociopath. I’m so glad he’s living the remainder of his life with the painful disappointment of losing to Barack Obama and all the money he has won’t cure that.

            Who does the GOP have for 2016 that doesn’t have more baggage than the Samsonite company? All they’ve got is Benghazi and other made up stuff. Wanna bet that the Select Committee will come up empty but will make up some story with no evidence to run with? In their sick minds, a lack of evidence proves that there is a coverup.

            Eric. I don’t have any evidence that you and Jason have sex with farm animals, so it must be that you guys are covering it up. Isn’t that just like what Issa and the rest do?

            A Firmly Entrenched Democrat and proud of it.

            After corporations have outsourced millions of well-paying jobs, destroying union membership, opposing raising the minimum wage and other anti-worker efforts, who has money to spend in a consumer economy? The GOP has created a downward spiral in this country compared to the upward spiral after WWII when the middle class grew due to unions, a minimum wage greater than today adjusted for inflation, and other policies that supported the middle class.

            And, you and Jason defend the GOP because the Democrats have made some mistakes along the way in their attempts to improve the lives of Americans.

            Just how blind can you 2 be?

            Why do you 2 go after me instead of the GOP? I’m not throwing a wrench in the gears of the government every chance I get.

          • Yeah no, what harm does blind faith in an establishment create? Not like people were blindly supporting the government in Germany in the mid-30’s to the 40’s right? Just tow that party line, and at the end of the day things are bad, you’ve got your built in excuse.

            The 2nd Amendment cites a well-regulated militia being necessary to safety, and as such allows the citizens to remain armed. The keyword is MILITIA, which both Fox News and CNN/MSNBC turned around and demonized as soon as they popped up. God forbid that citizens have an actual ability to tell the government no. You know what would have happened at Bundy Ranch if they hadn’t been armed? The same thing that happened at the Occupy protests; the goon squads would’ve gone in and cracked heads until the 1st Amendment was no longer in existence. See, the funny thing is how the Amendments work and support each other. 2nd is for the defense of the 1st, 3rd, 4th. Most of them have absolutely been crushed over the past 20 years.

            California also has laws on the book that pretty much outright bar forming of a militia. Given that, there should be no impediment on the 2nd.

            The CANG does not constitute a militia. Funded, paid for by the state, armed by the state, it is a military. Militia, formed by the citizens. Funny how the left like to play that Militia and Military are the same thing, they aren’t.

            But by all means, guns are the problem. Not mental health. Its not like the wimp up in Isla Vista STABBED 3 people, or hit any with his car right. It was all gun violence.

            You’ve got your head up and stuck in a literal ass, yet your calling us blind. I’m sorry my previous comment went over your head Bill; I was calling you an elitist. But as you stare down your nose at us, enjoying your retirement, swirling your sifter of brandy, by all means, feel free to deny.

            Its funny Bill. You claimed that you foresaw a crash coming when Bush took office, so you saved your money. So you weren’t expecting it when Clinton was in. So in an 8 year period, you saved enough to retire? How many of those Republican tax tricks did you take advantage of all the while critiquing them?

          • William,

            Neither side does a damn thing about mental health but once again continue trashing the Republicans.

            Every wonder why these mass shootings happen at schools, restaraunts, churches and military bases? Its called gun free zones. Places where law abiding citizens arent allowed to carry yet the shooters break laws to commit more crimes. Apparently youve missed the stories about businesses going public with a gun ban and within a few days getting robbed at gun point. Guess the criminals missed the memo on that one huh? The only people that pay attention to the law are LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

            100% background checks arent going to work unless the system is fixed and neither side has proposed that. Democrats time and time again want to ban certain weapons based on look instead of dealing with the mental health issues and the systems used to report those with issues to NCIS. The broken system is what has allowed multiple mass shootings to happen.

            Cheney is an idiot with a gun just like Biden is an idiot with a gun. Telling people to grab a shotgun and fire into the air. Way to tell people to break the law there.

            While those a-holes down in Texas carried into restaurants, they did so LEGALLY. Texas has no law forbidding it. While not the smartest thing they could have done they broke no laws. You bring up the businesses banning them. Guess what? That was all pressure from groups funded by, wait for it, a billionaire Democrat. A guy who would rather have us be victims than be able to protect ourselves.

            New gun control legislation will have the same effect as whats currently on the books. Whats there isnt enforced to begin with with so how exactly will the new legislation be any better when it isnt enforced. This is what people say when it handcuffs law abiding citizens. Do you think a criminal is going to pay attention to the law? Ill give you a perfect example of current legislation being worthless. A convicted felon on parole gets caught with a loaded and stolen FBI handgun in his possession. A laundry list of crimes right there. He ends up with 3 years probation. Gun laws are really working and you want me to believe that adding more to the books is going to stop gun crime?

    • William—Everyone seems to be a burr under your saddle. You don’t have any substance to your comments William. You only react to others comments by attempting to belittle others and their issues. Your deep insecurities are showing more and more with each reactionary comment you make. C’est La Vie William.

      • @bird

        No substance to my comments??? Really, bird. You are projecting your lack of substance on just about every article on this site.

        I write comments and it seems to be the other way around when people reply to my comments. But, that went right past you because you have limited abilities in reading comprehension and critical thinking.

        But, you can type. So, there you have it.

        Type away.

        • You need to understand the situation Bird. Bill KNOWS what is best for the country, best for you, best for me. He doesn’t understand how he can pass on all his grand knowledge to us, and we still go against him. We exasperate Bill, hopefully he’ll forgive us for being such idiots, it was never a problem he ever had to deal with. Elitists are such a great honor to have around, we should all worship him.

          Especially before his high speed railroad gets going. Wonder how long after it is up and working before they start rounding up all those dumb Pubs and sending them to the camps. You’d support that, wouldn’t you Bill?

  37. It’s shameful and embarrassing that Buck McKeon went on Fox News to say we should not have brought Bowe bergdahl home, you sent him there to fight for us and now you want to break our promise to never leave a soldier behind accept when you feel like it. Buck never bothered to bother to serve, how many deferments, 5 was it? We are leaving, we got him that’s good news. He’s our soon, we do anything to bring you back. He’s not a civilian he’s our soldier, what don’t you get about that. So glad you’re leaving unpatriotic Grumpy Old Person

  38. Hey, Red
    I saw this on the Huffington Post written by an anonymous poster. I thought it was an interesting take on the next 2 elections that I haven’t heard mentioned before.

    “We should let them have the senate in 2014. Their approval ratings are already at historic lows, and it will only get lower once they control the entire congress and are left with one less scapegoat to blame their indifference on.

    Come 2016 republicans need to defend 23 senate seats compared to 10 for democrats, on a presidential election year where democrats vote in high numbers. Give republicans all the leash they want to go completely nutter for the next two years, and watch us have a massive democratic blow out in 2016.

    Like you said earlier, “They’ll make lemons out of lemonade” if we just let them. Politics really is 3-dimensional chess and we read comments here from some folks who are playing ‘Go Fish’ or ‘Bingo*’.

    *There is no skill required in Bingo.

    I might add to the above poster’s comment, that even if they don’t take the Senate, the republicans will continue the obstruction and distractions anyway and little will get done in President Obama’s last 2 years. And, he can veto their nutty ideas, so if might be worth the gamble to let them take both Houses. They will certainly eff it up but good. It’s not like they haven’t done that before.

    • Interesting take, politically; but it’s simply way too dangerous to give the Republicans (and Tea-Billies) all of the keys to the Kingdom.

      • Right you are, Otis.

        When Bush won in 2000, I told my Dad, “It’s good news/bad news”. The bad news was that he won. The good news was that it’ll will be the end of the republican party. It took him 2 terms to do it, however. He wasn’t very efficient at that even

        Look at what a mess the GOP has become. They are so turned inside out and backwards, they oppose their own ideas if the Presdient signs on just to be contrary.

        • No kidding. And, unfortunately, the Repubs so-called post-Romney re-branding continues to be attempts at peddling the same old product by sticking different ribbons on it.

          • @Otis

            As I write this, some ‘republican lawmakers’ (is that an oxymoron, or what?) are very busy deleting their tweets vigorously supporting doing whatever it takes to bring back Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl now that they are blasting the President for actually bringing him home.

            They have no shame and will do anything, including lying and obvious about-faces, for what purpose? They want to be in power but they can’t govern worth beans.
            And, you know how beans repeat on you just like the republicans.

            I prefer the beans to the republicans. If there was only a product similar to ‘Beano’ for republicans.

            And, there are folks on this site who think the 2 parties are the same. I worry about them. They might drive on the wrong side of the road because both sides look the same to them.

  39. I just checked out BeX’s on Yelp to see if it’s improved at all.

    This review below was interesting and funny. And, recent.

    “5/21/2014

    “Where’s the Beef?”

    Sorry for the cliché, but I got a story to tell.
    This is about my Lancaster BLVD experience at BEX the other day. On a side note, I find it odd that I can wear a tank-top at Bex, but not at Medrano’s. More on that later…

    So…I had lunch and a beer at Bex yesterday.
    On Mondays they have $5 burgers. I ordered their Bacon Bleu Burger. The bartender asked me how I would like it prepared, which is usually a good indication
    .
    “Rare,” I said.

    “Medium is the lowest we can go,” she replied.

    I ordered it medium, after thinking she could have saved her time and my frustration by not even asking me.

    When I got the burger, I found there was so little meat, that I had the majority of the brioche bun left, after the burger was gone. The patty was not even 1/4″ thick and was charred, gray, and well-done. You would have to flash fry a burger that thin to not overcook it.

    The bartender had never checked back with me to see how it was, (Serving Basics 101) and didn’t ask me when she removed my plate. I had a chance to talk to a man behind the bar, though.

    I asked him if he worked there and he said no. I said that I found it strange for him to be behind the bar. He then said, “I’m the owner.”

    That explains everything! The owner doesn’t work there! I have a suggestion: If you don’t work there, don’t be there. Hire good people and leave them alone.

    When I told him about the burger, he said I could talk to the GM, who was (pointing to the opposite side of the restaurant) over there. I told him I wasn’t in the business of fixing his establishment’s problems.

    I then told him that it looked like he took a $10 dollar burger, removed half of the patty and made it a $5 dollar burger. He laughed and said that’s exactly what they did. They took an 8 oz. patty and made it a 4 oz. patty.

    I have a recommendation for him. Leave the patty at 8oz. Add the cost you would have saved by humiliating a gourmet burger and call it a $6 dollar burger. It’s actually got more marketing prowess if you can wrap your dome around that…

    He then decided to order the same burger, and see how it came out. I had endured enough of his shenanigans at this point. I paid the bill, left a big fat zero for a tip, and exited the building.”

    Well, it sounds like Rex’s ‘Crown Jewel of the BLVD’ BeX hasn’t improved one bit. I wonder about the people who rave about its food. They must eat out at those ‘roach coaches’ on wheels everyday and think BeX is ‘extraordinary’.

    The owner sounds like a real piece of work. How does it stay open with that kind of attitude on the part of the owner?

  40. ATTEN HUN! CAP’N LANCASTER HERE WITH YOUR LANCASTER CITY COUNCIL MEETING UPDATE.

    FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN A ROW, OUR FEARLESS LEADER FAILED TO SHOW. PROBABLY TOO BUSY HOB NOBBING WITH HIS RICH PALS FROM MALIBU. BUT WHETHER HE WAS THERE OR NOT, IT WAS A TYPICAL LANCASTER COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE GOOD OLE BOYS COMING IN FIRST, AND THE REST OF US GRUNTS SCREWED.

    NOT ONLY WAS OLE REX A NOW SHOW BUT HIS FORMER SCAPEGOAT NOW PARRIS LAPDOG RON SMITH WAS NO WHERE TO BE FOUND. MAYBE HE WAS GUARDING THE BACK DOOR AT SOME COURTROOM. WHO KNOWS. ANYWAY IT SCREWED UP THE ORDER OF THE MEETING SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND HAD THE PRESENTATIONS FIRST.

    THEY SAID THANK YOU TO THE CITY CLERK FOR ALL HER YEARS OF SERVICE. BET SHE’S GOT SOME STORIES TO TELL THAT WE’LL NEVER HEAR ABOUT. ELECTIONS IN LANCASTER ARE LIKE NOTHING YOU’VE EVER SEEN BEFORE. THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE UPCOMING EVENTS, MOST OF WHICH FEATURE A LOT OF BOOZE AND CIGAR SMOKING. FOR A CITY THAT’S PRETTY MUCH AT THE MERCY OF THE VOTING BLOCK OVER THERE AT THE LANCASTER BAPTIST CHURCH, THEY SURE LIKE TO BOOZE IT UP! BOOZE AT THE FAIR. BOOZE AT THE JAZZ FESTIVAL. BOOZE AT THE RODEO. BOOZE AT THE STREETS OF LANCASTER. BOOZE AT THE POPPY FESTIVAL. BOOZE AT THE FIELD OF DRAFTS. I GUESS THAT ONE MAKES SENSE. KINDA HARD NOT TO HAVE BOOZE AT A BEER FESTIVAL. ONE EVENT THAT ACTUALLY DOES A LOT OF GOOD IS THE THUNDER ON THE LOT. RON EMARD TALKED ABOUT IT AND NOTED THAT THE EVENT HAS RAISED $3.8 MILLION FOR LOCAL CHARITIES. LOCAL AS IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY. OLE RON GETS IT. MONEY RAISED LOCALLY HELPS LOCAL. OUR FEARLESS MAYOR ON THE OTHER HAND SEEMS TO THINK THAT PEPPERDINE UNIVERISITY IN THE DEPRIVED COLONY OF MALIBU NEEDS A CASH DONATION OF $2 MILLION TO KEEP THEM AFLOAT. THINK OF ALL THE MONEY PARRIS HAS MADE UP HERE IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY FROM SUING PLACES LIKE STARWOOD, AND SCHOOL BOARDS, AND CITIES, AND JUST ABOUT ANYONE ELSE HE CAN. CAP’N LANCASTER WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE LIKE RON EMARD AND LESS PEOPLE LIKE R. REX PARRIS. HELL, JUST GET RID OF PARRIS. THERE’S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE HIM. THANK GOODNESS.

    CAP’N LANCASTER JUST CAN’T FIGURE OUT WHY PARRIS WOULDN’T WANT TO BE THERE AT THE MEETING IN PERSON WHEN HIS HAND PICKED ALL-WESTSIDE CITY COUNCIL GAVE AWAY MORE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS TO ONE OF THE GOOD OLE BOYS. THIS WEEKS LUCKY WINNER OF THE LANCASTER CASH GRAB IS LONGTIME MARV CRIST PAL AND GOOD OLE BOY POSTER CHILD RICKY CLUTTER. LOOKS LIKE RICKY IS GETTING HIMSELF A NICE CHUCK OF TAXPAYER CHANGE TO THE TUNE OF HALF A MILL. $100 GRAND FOR A LOAN TO CLUTTER MOTORS FOR REMODELING AND THEN $400 GRAND IN STREETSCAPE UPGRADE. HOLY LANCASTER CASH COW! WHERE CAN CAP’N LANCASTER GET IN ON THIS KIND OF GRAVY? MY DIGS CAN SURE USE A LITTLE SPRUCING UP AND THE LIGHTING AROUND ME IS JUST TERRIBLE. SON OF A BITCH! AND THIS IS ON TOP OF THE $2 MILLION CLUTTER GOT BACK IN ’09 TO KEEP HIS DEALERSHIP OPERATING. PLEASE SOMEONE, ANYONE, TELL THE CAP’N HOW TO GET IN THIS KIND OF DEAL? I’LL BE OLE REX’S PAL FOREVER AND EVER AMEN. JUST GET ME A LITTLE BIT OF THAT LANCASTER GOVERNMENT CHEESE AND I’LL SHUT MY YAPPER RIGHT HERE AND NOT.

    HELL NO I WON’T! WHAT IS IT WITH THIS PLACE? THEY TAKE OUR TAX DOLLARS AND GIVE IT TO THEIR BUDDIES. CLUTTER. GONZALES. VISCO. GILLEY. VOSE. UNIVERSITY OF ANTELOPE VALLEY. AND ON AND ON AND ON. OUR MONEY. REX’S PALS. THE ONLY OTHER FOLKS WHO SEEM TO BENEFIT AS MUCH AS THE INSIDERS ARE ALL THE LAWYERS WHO ARE SUING US. SPEAKING OF LAWYERS MAKING MONEY SUING US, HERE’S THE LIST OF LAWSUITS COURTESY OF OF OUR MAYOR AND HIS BIG FAT YAPPER:

    Conference with Legal Counsel – Anticipated Litigation: significant exposure to litigation pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(d) (2) – four potential cases.
    Conference with Legal Counsel – Anticipated Litigation: consideration of initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(d) (4) – one potential case.
    Conference with Legal Counsel–Existing Litigation – Government Code Section 54956.9(d) (1)
    Coalition for Open Government v. City of Lancaster, Case No. BC499047
    Quartz Hill Cares v. City of Lancaster, Case No. BS 122336
    Lancaster v. Housing Authority of the County of Los Angeles (HACoLA) Case No. MC023649
    Rubin v. Lancaster – United States District Court Case No. CV 10-4046 DSF (JCx)
    Save Our Neighborhood Group v. City of Lancaster, et al. Los Angeles Superior Court Case No. BS 121501.
    Shabazz v. Parris, USDC, Central Case No. CV12-5803 SVW (JEM)
    ANTELOPE VALLEY GROUNDWATER CASES
    Included Actions:
    Los Angeles County Waterworks District No. 40 v. Diamond Farming Co.
    Superior Court of California, County of Los Angeles, Case No. BC325201;

    Los Angeles County Waterworks District No. 40 v. Diamond Farming Co.
    Superior Court of California, County of Kern, Case No. S-1500-CV-254-348

    Wm. Bolthouse Farms, Inc. v. City of Lancaster, Diamond Farming Co. v. City of Lancaster, Diamond Farming Co. v. Palmdale Water District
    Superior Court of California County of Riverside, consolidated actions;
    Case Nos. RIC 353 840, RIC 344 436, RIC 344 668

    Santa Clara Case No. 1-05-CV 049053

    NOW YOU KNOW CAP’N LANCASTER IS NOT A BIG FAN OF THE BLVD, MOSTLY BECAUSE HE CAN’T PARK HIS BIG OLE TRUCK IN THOSE DUMB ASS PARKING SPOTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD (WHOSE DUMB IDEA WAS THAT?). MOSTLY BECAUSE HE IS TIRED OF GETTING HIT UP FOR MONEY WHEN HE DOES GO THERE. MOSTLY BECAUSE HE DOESN’T FEEL SAFE AFTER DARK DOWN THERE BECAUSE INSTEAD OF SECURITY OUR FEARLESS MAYOR DECIDED TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS ON HIS STUPID SPY PLANE THAT’S OWNED BY HIS POLITICAL PAL FRANK VISCO. BUT MOSTLY BECAUSE HE THINKS SCOTT ERLICH IS A SNEAKY SON OF A BITCH WHO MADE A TON OF MONEY OFF US TAXPAYERS ON ONE SMALL AREA WHILE THE REST OF OUR CITY HAS GONE TO HELL IN A HANDBASKET! BUT CAP’N LANCASTER IS VERY GLAD TO SEE DAISY’S COSTUMES SURVIVE A TERRIBLE FIRE AND COME BACK IN A NEW LOCATION. CAP’N LANCASTER WISHES DAISY’S COSTUMES THE BEST OF SUCCESS!

    CAP’T LANCASTER IS STILL WAITING FOR THE DAMN BLVD CUSTARD SHOP TO OPEN. HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO OPEN A CUSTARD SHOP? BY THE TIME I GET MY FIRST TASTE OF THAT DELICIOUS CUSTARD, ALL THOSE STORES THAT ARE COMING TO THE MALL AND OTHER PARTS WILL BE OPEN AND PROBABLY EXPANDING. WHO WANTS TO BET CAP’N LANCASTER THAT HE’LL EAT A KRISPY KREME DONUT BEFORE HE EVER GETS A TASTE OF THAT CUSTARD?

    SPEAKING OF KRISPY WHY THE HELL CAN’T OUR HIGH AND MIGHTY REX GET US ANY DECENT STORES AND RESTAURANTS? WHY THE HELL DO THEY ALL HAVE TO GO TO PALMDALE? OH WAIT, WE GOT OUR $1.50 AN HOUR BYD BUS JOBS. THERE I FEEL BETTER. HELL NO I DON’T! $1.50 AN HOUR. CAN’T EVEN AFFORD CUSTARD ON THAT PITTANCE! DAMMIT, I’M ALL PISSED OFF AGAIN! I BETTER SIGN OFF BEFORE I MAKE MYSELF DROP AND GIVE ME 20. THIS HAS BEEN CAP’N LANCASTER WITH YOUR LANCASTER CITY COUNCIL MEETING UPDATE. AT EASE!

    • Thanks, again, CAP’N LANCASTER for filling in the details.

      Rex doesn’t talk much about the BLVD any more, does he? I guess he’s given up on that fiasco and he’s obsessed with solar. I think he believes in the ‘Sun God’ or something.

      I noticed solar panels in the parking lot next to the Palmdale Library the other day but without all the fanfare and BS like Rex spouts.

      Palmdale just gets it done while Rex thinks boasting and bragging gets the job done.

      Funny that Krispie Kreme, Chick Fil A, and other such places didn’t locate in Lancaster which has a slightly larger population than Palmdale.

      Why would that be? Did their research check out both mayors and realize that one was as crazy as they come? Imagine you’re a businessman and meet with Rex. What would your impression be?

      Then, following that, imagine meeting Mayor Ledford to discuss locating in Palmdale. Whom would you trust to do business with?

      “Lancaster is ‘business friendly'” says Rex. So, why do businesses avoid it unless they get a sweeheart deal?

      It’s only gonna get worse for Lancaster in comparison. Heck, the 47th Street East corridor in Palmdale is better than anything in Lancaster.

      No wonder Rex doesn’t go to the council meetings and face his constituents whom he probably can’t stand to be around anyway because they aren’t rich like he is. It must chafe his hide to have to sit and listen to Lancaster residents talk about their complaints. That’s why he’s always making snarky remarks during the meetings. He’s bored and can’t wait to get the heck outta there.

      I suspect that Rex is grooming Marv to be the next mayor because he doesn’t want to be around to be blamed for the messes he’s created in Lancaster. He’ll retire somewhere else.

  41. I was wondering if anyone would know about any Active Red Hat Chapter(s) in Lancaster, only thing I found was from 2007…I would like to see what kind of activities they have…just moved into the area and would like to meet people my age..

    Thanks for any help!! :)

  42. Applebee’s next to the AV mall. Saturday 5-31 from 10am-12 noon Overpass for Obama impeachment meeting, if you are local, no excuse for not showing up if you are awake and know what is going on.

    I have spoken to so many people in the past week who are awake, we have the numbers I guarantee it, we need to figure out a plan of action soon or we are cooked.

    • Awaiting moderation? Applebee’s next to the AV mall. Saturday 5-31 from 10am-12 noon Overpass for Obama impeachment meeting, if you are local, no excuse for not showing up if you are awake and know what is going on.

      I have spoken to so many people in the past week who are awake, we have the numbers I guarantee it, we need to figure out a plan of action soon or we are cooked.

      • Awake to what? Impeach for what? Ending 2 wars, preventing several more, and kick starting the space program, with California companies?
        Sheesh Call Girl I think you are the one who needs to wake up.

        http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/enter-dragon-heres-what-its-inside-new-spacex-capsule-n118921

        Above, last week Space Shuttle replaced with 21st Century reusable rocket developed in Hawthorne, Ca.

        I am So Sick of hearing about Obama being a bad president while he is accomplishing one great thing after another.

        • Exactly. People who criticize President Obama have such short memories as to what W dumped on him including the VA mess because the Cheney/Bush administration was so itching to invade Iraq, they didn’t care about the costs of caring for millions of veterans afterward. They just left it to the next guy and then constantly bitched about the way he was handling it.

          • your right on short memories, I mean very short memories. anyway I see someone running for senator in d.c. from calif. all I seen on his poster he is an conservative nothing else. any education??? high school maybe. another conservative retiring who has an animal husbandry degree. DOD. COME ON.

      • @Caligirl, , what happened to you and your group? That was impressive. Is enough ever enough for you? Today he brought home the one remaining soldier being held form the war, I’m guessing you have some issue with that too. Do you not see that it’s too much you went to far..

    • @CaliGirl

      I’d be careful Saturday as they might throw a net over you and the 3 other nutjobs.

      First they’ll hit you folks with tranquilizer darts.

      Then, they’ll capture you.

      And, then take you to the laboratory to study this peculiar life-form that lives in their own parallel universe where up is down and lack of evidence is proof of a coverup. Be sure to bring your ‘long form birth certificate’.

      You are a hoot.

    • @Caligirl,what happened? All Grumpy Old People got heat stroke? I love that idea all the crazy right wing nut on one overpass. I hope you got your obamacare in effect, you can use your Obama phone to call some big government paramedic, union member taker to some crappy public hospital. I hope you get back for your meals on wheels. Yes, you’re checks in your account on the 3rd. Do you need a dial ride to go somewhere?

      • @Caligirl, I would like to understand why when we were enjoying peace and prosperity, republicans impeached President Clinton. President Bush took office with a surplus, shortly we were in two wars, one Bush lied, Didn’t pay for the wars, tax breaks or Medicare D. Then are economy crashed. Mr Obama has done great and know you want to impeach him. Where were you for Bush? You don’t see how hypocritical you are, you are ruining our country, stop

    • @Caligirl, what color paints do you want? So we can meet all of you at one at one time and on an overpass, WOW, I love this idea. This is the best idea. Republicans take lemonade and make it into lemons again. As long as you keep talking we can’t loose, the.Go wing nuts..Go wing nuts…

      • @Red

        “Republicans take lemonade and make it into lemons again”. I luv it.

        That was good and so very, very true.

        Like they say, “CaliGirl could spoil an orgasm”.

        • @William, yes she can, dreams too. Where were they? We went. Grumpy Old People wanting to take their lemons back.

        • Caligirl is right, and I will be there. Good people doing a good thing. This country is no longer a Norman Rockwell painting, like it should be.

          • Good for you, Zeke.

            It’s better that the nutjobs are all together in one spot rather than walking amongst the rest of us.

          • @Caligirl, you are nuts, do you ever stop? Where were you when the war started? You must think we are stupid, I’m done putting up with this. Be prepared if you choose to do any more embarrassing things publicly. We no longer will sit back without answer, your attitudes are wrecking our way of life. The policies that we voted for in this district are being implemented and some hand full of vocal people are attempting to paralyze our government because think they can turn back time. We have a black President, move on. You have gone so far, it’s over. For the good of America stop. Settled law, is settled. Impeachment???

    • @Caligirl; you guaranteed lot’s of people, you talked to them. Do you stop since you’re wrong. You guaranteed and once again are wrong. Enough is enough.

    • @CaliGirl

      Where did you go?

      How did your big, fabulous event turn out?

      Or, are you just a ‘hit and run’ type poster here?

      Your comments remind me of some gal called ‘FOREWARNED’ who used to post similar comments here a while back. Then, she took her nonsense and split.

    • @Caligirl, where’s the action? We’re looking, group so big can’t be held on only overpass? You can keep sending all the letters to a.v.press, all 3 of you. Do you know it’s 2014, remember last month when gay marriage was still illegal in Wyoming, Donald sterling owned the clippers.We will move forward with or without you, it’s up to you but we’re not impeaching a president we elected because you can’t deal. We’re not electing anymore Grumpy Old People, that’s you Tony Strickland, you’re not repealing healthcare or giving anymore tax breaks to billionaires.

  43. I just want anyone contacted by code enforcement, not to worry. You dont have to comply, at least for years. I`ve learned the lesson the expensive way, by complying, losing a legal source of income, only to have my neighbors across the street from my property keep their eyesore, illegal 8`tall pic-a-part old wood and galvanized tin fence intact for 5 years.

  45. Oh, Christ!

    Now, we have ‘Red’, ‘White’, and ‘Blue’ commenting on this site.

    Good thing I’m colorblind. LOL

    • This might explain a few things.

      “Conservatives and liberals may have one less thing in common: neurology.
      ProCon.org has gathered 13 peer-reviewed studies of behavioral and
      neurological studies and come to the conclusion that differences between
      Republicans and Democrats are more than skin-deep.
      “Basically, the different sides have been yelling at each other for
      millennia, and we’re trying to figure out what could be the root cause
      of this,” said Steven Markoff, ProCon.org’s founder.
      The studies looked at things like differences between groups’
      perception of eye movement, and aversion to threatening noises.
      Researchers also noted that Democrats had larger anterior cingulate
      cortexes, which are associated with tolerance to uncertainty, while
      Republicans had larger right amygdalas, which are associated with
      sensitivity to fear.”

      Apparently, ‘larger right amygdalas’ keep Fox News in business. BE AFRAID. BE VERY AFRAID.

  46. A few of my posts are awaiting moderation. Could be hours before they show up. That is annoying, got better things to do. bye

  47. @John, I know who did it and so do you. So because I don’t want you to choose my birth control, you feel like you have license to say or do anything, this is why no republicans can win here, you don’t get it maybe in November. Remember yesterday you weren’t a republican, hard too keep up with your personas.

    • @Red
      More attacks with no facts. Don’t care about your birth control and I am still not a Republican. You call me a liar all the time and you don’t even know me.

      FYI. I am pro choice and I believe marijuana should be decriminalized. Oh… I am also an atheist. If you want to judge me, you should know the truth.

      But of course, you will still say I am lying. So be it.

      • @John, here’s the hint your words. So why do you belittle women? You do it, look at your words.

      • @John, here’s the facts some are trying to turn back the clock on my healthcare. I would have thought a real man would understand and pile on but we now you’re a injustice collector

        • @Red
          I support the Affordable Care Act. Always have. It is not my job to defend it when I know there is no way the Republicans can stop it. All President Obama has to do is veto any bill that tries to stop it.

      • @John, so you defend every man but me you can’t control yourself, you have to take every chance to belittle, try to control us, this is exactly what we don’t like, stop using women.

        • @Red
          Why should I defend you? You’re strong enough to stand up for yourself. Never posted anything that belittled women or want to control or use woman. Not sure why you think that.

          • @John, so the men are so weak, they need to defend them, I would never expect anything from you. Read what you say, yes you belittle us. READ YOUR OWN WORDS until you get it. What I posted was about school lunch programs, so what about that?

        • @Red
          I didn’t defend anyone but myself.
          That post you are talking about was not my post. You think I am the only one that posts as John on this website?

      • @John, okay you’re not a republican it’s okay NO one is anymore it’s too embarrassing and whoever those republicans are on here are proving why we have to win in November. Whatever label you use doesn’t matter, it’s your policies, , I don’t agree with is that okay or no?

      • ,@John,, my rights are under attack from the republicans. The Ryan budget is very clear so that’s the facts I’m talking about. You like it?

        • @Red
          I agree with you. Because I am not as passionate about it as you does not mean I disagree with you.
          I do have a life to live that does not include politics.
          Sorry if that bothers you.

      • @John, we.understand you don’t care about women’s health, can you just stay out of it, you don’t care and it’s not your business. So but out. You appa

        • Hey Red. Since when is birth control “women’s health”? How about the health of the fetus?????

          • @White,

            Show us where the word ‘fetus’ is in the Constitution.

            Or God

            Or Jesus.

            Or Christianity, for that matter.

            The Supreme Court, which IS in the Constitution decided, because that’s what they do, that woman have to right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

            Which country did you think you resided in?

          • Wait a minute…..I’m “White”. We’ll call you “Athiest White”. Athiest White- get over it. All men were created equal. “Men” meaning “people”. A person is created at conception. Don’t be upset because you can’t embrace that fact. It’s a mental block that you have to get over.

          • @ white,.apparently you lack knowledge of what your talking about. First you say what does birth control have to women’s health, then you talk about a fetus?
            Why do feel you get to make decisions about my personal health.

          • @white, reproductive health is always women’s health.
            Obviously you don’t now so get schooled before you look so ignorant.

  48. @Red
    I didn’t do anything. You are the one attacking and commenting on posts I never even written. Then blaming me for writing it.

      • @Red
        Still more attacks at me for no reason. How predictable. I don’t consider myself a victim. But you whine when you think someone is attacking you for being a woman with five kids. So who is the victim here?

        • @John, so I’m a victim, no I’m strong and don’t need help. Which is it? Name 1 lie?

          • @Red
            You called me a whining victim. But in fact you are the one acting like one. I don’t come to this website to defend you when all you do is attack me.

        • @John, I’m not whining I’m taking action everyday to make sure we don’t elect someone who wants to take my rights. I have 5 college graduates that work, my son is a paramedic, daughters are all married to great guys that work, one just completed her MBA. I’m not a victim I’m a survivor. I talk to lots of people under 30 and we discuss college loans. What lie?

          • @Red
            The lie is that you keep calling me a Republican, after telling you many times I am not.
            I was a paramedic many years ago. Loved the job. I stayed in the healthcare field and my daughter is working on her Masters degree in nursing.

  49. @Red
    I have never used your name in any of my posts. I never left those other posts you are talking about. Again you are wrong.
    You and William are the ones trolling and attacking any user that is posting as John or Eric.

    • @John/Eric aka injustice collector, This is nothing to the stand we’re making here so get ready to be very unhappy gentleman. We’re not here to be belittled and treated like we’re stupid. How many babies have you birthed? Me 5, I wasn’t forced into it, I chose so if you don’t trust don’t women that’s your problem maybe you shouldn’t have sex with them if you trust us so little?

  50. Mr McKeon & McCarthy both voted this week to cut school lunch programs to urban areas and maintain only in Appalachia in the congressperson who authored the bills district. Within the bill it maintains huge subsidies for farmers like the same congressman. How does that represent me?? They just vote to make it each other rich. Where is our congressman? They shut down our government and went to the movies. I believe that is wrong and cannot vote to continue paralyze my country. If you like being paralyzed vote for another Grumpy Old Person if not vote for a change, they’ve been in power here for forever and have no responsibility to anything that’s happening somehow. Your not representing US and now you want to blame us and who keeps paying US. You lost site of who matters. You represent US we don’t pay to make millionaires into billionaires.

    • I wonder where Eric, John, and AJ go where people will listen to their nonsense.

      There has to be a few wingnut sites around this conservative valley where they can pull each other’s fingers.

      Oh, that’s right……far right. There’s ‘intheav’ which ended up being 2 idiots talking past each other when everyone else split.

      But, not here on the Times.

      • @William, I posted about the lunch program and now look their using my name and trying stop me from stating my opinion. This makes me work harder, got to register more voters cuz they have showed me that aren’t working for me. NO more Grumpy Old People

  51. President Obama and Brad paisley, with our troops. Thank you, for your service, thank you Mr President for doing what’s important being with our troops

    • Wow, so now we don’t believe in science. It seems repealing affordable care isn’t going well, Benghzi is turning into a loser, IRS another loser so loop back to he’s a tyrant dictator because everything is through the lens of trying to make him illegitimate. The president we elected but you can’t accept that so you’re so blinded by fear that you have ruined the republicans, no one gets everything there way. Republicans shut down our government. If you can’t get behind America and put America first and not your personal issues why would I vote to keep doing the same thing, you’ve really have to stop whining and complaining this has gone to far. You can’t just be against you need to be for something, not just turning the clock back.

  53. Eric and John like to portray both parties as being equally at fault, y’know the same way Britain and Germany were equally at fault during World War II because they were both fighting each other.

    Meanwhile, Eric and John are analogous to Vichy France during WWII with their thinly disguised collaboration with the GOP.

    What 3rd party candidates will they vote for June 3rd and in November because, y’know, they aren’t republicans and the republicans are as bad as the Democrats?

    When you can’t make clear distinctions, Eric and John, or EricJohn, you’ll end up eating the yellow snow. Again.

    • @GOP, here’s what happened, you went to far. We’re not going back or any where else with republicans. If you would like to live in state like north Carolina you can move, if you want to live in California realize the republicans gave this state.. face it GOP, you and your nut jobs drove it to small regional party

      • @William, maybe that’s why John’s beat down, whoever they are they’re getting there personas confused. It’s tuff being one Grumpy Old Person with so many targets. Women, gays,immigrants, black, brown white poor people, kids on school lunch, old people who get meals on wheels, the library, the post office,

        • @Red
          It’s called the GOP platform.

          Does anyone think the Steve Knight or Tony Strickland WON’T follow it exaclty?

          • @William, they have pledged that, they all blindly walk the alter of the Koch brothers and sacrifice us the voters for money, not this time.

          • This is Media Matters’ Mission Statement that John calls propafanda.

            “Media Matters for America is a
            Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation
            in the U.S. media.”

            Either he’s been to it and doesn’t like it that convervatives are shown to be lying constantly or he’s never been to it and is just repeating what he’s heard elsewhere.

            Neither is flattering to John’s POV.

          • Knight and Strickland-separated at birth.

            Don’t believe a thing they say. If they were to go to DC, they will follow the party line.

            Look up Knight’s voting record. It’s almost all ‘Nays’.

          • @Red

            One thing I’ve noticed is how the right distorts and/or cherry-picks the meaning of words.

            For example, ‘liberal’ has a positive definition but they use it to disparage.

            John, cherry-picks a definition of ‘propaganda from ‘Britannica Kids’. There is more to it than his version.

            ‘acts of terrors’ in the right wing mind is not the same as ‘terrorist acts’. They are crazy.

            But, my all time favorite for right wing t-party stupidity is the title of Sarah Palin’s book ‘Going Rogue’.

            Here ’tis.

            Full Definition of ROGUE
            1
            : vagrant, tramp
            2
            : a dishonest or worthless person : scoundrel
            3
            : a mischievous person : scamp
            4
            : a horse inclined to shirk or misbehave
            5
            : an individual exhibiting a chance and usually inferior biological variation

            And, stupid Miss Half Governor labeled her own self as such. And, whatever right wing publisher she used was just as dumb unless they were secretly laughing at her.

            But, she doesn’t live in a vacuum. I bet at least a 1,000 copies have been sold here in the Antelope Valley, along with books by Ann ‘this isn’t an Adam’s apple’ Coulter, Bill ‘Dr. Tiller the baby killer who was later assassinated in his church’ O’Reilly, and various other right wing ‘authors’.

            Stephen Colbert has mocked their ridiculous pretense of ‘telling the truth’ by inventing the word ‘truthiness’.

            I just try to be ‘fair and balanced’. I criticize the right for being both liars AND for being stupid.

    • Buck McKeon is doing ads for Strickland. Another Grumpy Old Person. He’s repealing our healthcare, cutting taxes for rich people, less regulation for the Koch bros, defund planned parenthood and stand against our President, wow that sounds like the last 6year’s. I guess Steve Knight isn’t the golden child. Mr Strickland looks like he’s been having a bad year or something, is he sick or maybe too many beverages. Why is he so gray looking, that’s weird.

    • Ding ding ding ding!!!!!! Ladies and gentlemen….. The winners of this thread are William and Red!!!! Show them what they’ve won! Oh wait, this is just a forum on an Antelope Valley local news website? Well sorry no awards here, just a clear indicator on time being well spent.

      Friend: “Hey William, how was your day?”

      William: “Oh it was great! I told these dumb Republicans that they’re illiterate! Heck, they didn’t even admit they’re republicans, but they’re wrong, I just know it!”

      Friend: “where was this? At the store?”

      William: “No!? It was on the avtimes website! Check it out! For every dumb GOP comment, I post about 10 responses! Oh I get em good too!!! I’m the best out there!!!!”

      Friend: “oh…..so you argue endlessly on a website?”

      William: “yeah! It’s so awesome! People are missing out! If you go to the readers section, you’ll see all my comments! And if someone disagrees with me, then I throw everything I have at them! That’s my legacy!!!!!!!!”

      Friend: “um….ok…That’s cool man”…. (wow this guy has really lost it)………

      And let the vicious comments fly baby!!!!!!

  54. Never said or even hinted that I was a Republican. No place does it say I agree with Democrats or Republicans.

    I knew that you and Red would try and ‘beat me down’. You do that to everyone that does not think like you. You both are very predictable and pathetic at the same time.

    I see liberals use the term ‘sheeple’ describing Republicans and the Tea Party all the time.

    No mistaking that you and Red control this thread. Well, you can have it.
    You both have antagonized and insulted everyone on this thread that disagrees with you. This is not a thread to debate on when a comment can take an hour to show up.

      • @John

        This is 3-dimentional chess here and you are playing Candyland.

        Brittanica Kids??? Aren’t you embarrassed? Giving the narrow definition shows just how you think. And, it’s for kids.

        You had to know that that wasn’t the full and complete definition but since you provided it so readily, I assume it works for you.

    • @John, the hint about you was you said. I control this thread interesting cuz yesterday, I’m a puppet of William, slut, alcoholic, nut.. I say what I believe if that’s scary be afraid. If you want to use me as some punching bag for the Party. When do you stop being a winey baby, it’s all about you.

      • @GOP, you went to far and now you can’t go back. You turned a national party into a regional party at best, don’t blame me, that’s why no one is a republican any more, now you’re trying to backup. It’s not working because we’re not completely stupid. When did the republicans turn into the whiney baby party? It’s always the samething…. me, me, me and it’s Obama’s fault. It’s old, stale, untrue, this is why the GOP is done here until you get some New ideas. It’s your policies we don’t like when you understand that you can change.

    • @John, steeple, never used it never heard it. If you call, calling out lies a beat down. I have listened to this for 6 years and I’m done with the republicans. So if you don’t like this, November will learn just how fed up we are.

    • @John

      You walk like a republican.

      You quack like a republican.

      You ARE republican.

      You just won’t admit it.

      P.S. Just so you know, you started this by calling me a ‘sheeple’ for referencing Media Matters. Now, I don’t want you to feel all hurt like a put-upon victim, which is typical republican behavior.

      The republicans on the Select Committe on Benghazi are already playing victim and accusing the Democrats of making the hearing difficult for them. Really? It hasn’t even begun yet but they are already spreading that narrative on Fox News.

      The Democrats won’t have any subpoena powers and if Darryl Issa’s selective leaking of documents continues with the Select Committee, they’ll have no right to complain. But, they will. You know how republicans are.

      • Here’s the GOP, I’m a whiney baby, whine..whine..send me money….whine., lie, whine, I need more money, lie, lie. Whine and it’s Obama’s fault. We need another hearing, it starts again.

  55. Mentally deficient former Florida congress critter and person discharged from the military to avoid a court martial and current Fox News contributor, Allen West (them’s some credentials) says of decorated veteran, Rep. Tammy Duckworth, “I don’t know where her loyalties lie.”.

    This was reported on Media Matters’ website. I love the comment below.

    This is all I have to say to Scumbag West:

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    ………./’/…/…./……./¨¯\
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    ………\……………..’…../
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    The artwork is amazing. Notice how the finger follows you around the room.

      • @Geez

        Shouldn’t you be over on a different thread discussing……..wait for it……’traffic accidents?

        • Voicing their opinions? I’m not against that one bit. Crude gestures that show no class? Well that’s a different story. Heck, let’s get nasty right!? I wouldn’t mind it so much if these ‘moderators’ were unbiased. And William, what’s your point with the traffic accident? Maybe I should change my name…I don’t recall commenting on that?

          • @Geez, I said my opinion so I hope you’re talking the men who called me a slut, nut, etc because I don’t agree with them. I’ve listened to this crazy for 6 years and I’m done electing people who don’t represent my interest, if I want to live in a state like Louisiana, I’ll move there, don’t try to inflict your policies on me. No Grumpy Old Person will win here, if you don’t believe me, I’ll talk to you in November. I won’t vote for someone who campaigns to go backwards. So I can’t say things you choose?

          • @Red: I was simply referring to the middle finger gesture. And how it lacked class. I wasn’t chiming in on your hate for the GOP. As far as men calling you these names?…. I’m not sure where that came from. Didn’t come from me, and frankly I don’t care. You obviously feel passionate about your stance, and I respect that. But your rant at me was unwarranted. If a ‘tea bagger’ had the same post with the middle finger, I’m pretty confident you would make a comment. It’s a two way street

    • Media Matters is a joke. Far left propaganda machine. At least we know who the sheeple are that comment on this site.

      • @John

        Have you ever been wrong before?

        I’m guessing that you have.

        Well, you’ve done it again.

        Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and other conservative subjects on the Media Matters website are shown in videos, in context, telling lies that are corrected by quoting other reliable sources or even those folks’ earlier contradictory statements.

        But, of course, you can’t give an example of an article on the site and why it’s ‘propaganda’, can you?

        So far, you’re batting a big ‘0’ (zero).

        Thanks for playing “I Dunno Nuttin'”

        Your consolation prize is a lifetime supply of Milk of Magnesia. It might help.

        • Wow! You don’t know the definition of ‘propaganda’, do you.

          I will help you because I am a nice person. This is from Britannica Kids, so even you can understand it.

          Propaganda:
          “A message that is intended primarily to serve the interests of the messenger—this is the basic definition of propaganda. It may also be defined as the spreading of information in order to influence public opinion and to manipulate other people’s beliefs.”

          Every article on the Media Matters website is, by definition, propaganda.

          Batting ‘0’? I think not.

          Thanks for playing.

          • So, John. Playing videos and providing text of conservative lies in their own words, is ‘propaganda’??? Who knew?

            Bill O’Reilly constantly complains about Media Matters calling it a ‘vile website’. A website that publishes his very own words. How ’bout that?

            Do you visit the site? If not, where did you ‘get’ your opinion as it sure sounds like you’re repeating something someone else said? Actually, it’s the same either way.

            So, then, your calling Media Matters a ‘far left propaganda machine’ is itself ‘propaganda’ by the definition you provided i.e., ‘spreading information in order to influence public opinion’ and ‘serve the interests of the messenger’. That’s YOU.

            Here’s a more comprehensive definition which certainly applies to Fox News but not to Media Matters.

            propaganda
            noun (Concise Encyclopedia)

            Manipulation of information to influence public opinion. The term comes from Congregatio de Propaganda Fide (Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith), a missionary organization established by the pope in 1622. Propagandists emphasize the elements of information that support their position and deemphasize or exclude those that do not. Misleading statements and even lies may be used to create the desired effect in the public audience. Lobbying, advertising, and missionary activity are all forms of propaganda, but the term is most commonly used in the political arena. Prior to the 20th century, pictures and the written media were the principal instruments of propaganda; radio, television, motion pictures, and the Internet later joined their ranks. Authoritarian and totalitarian regimes use propaganda to win and keep the support of the populace. In wartime, propaganda directed by a country at its own civilian population and military forces can boost morale; propaganda aimed at the enemy is an element of psychological warfare.”

            It’s just like you to narrowly define ‘propaganda’ just as Fox News does. They are your masters.

            Consider the last sentence of the definition as it relates to what the Cheney/Bush administration did leading up to the Iraq War. Was your morale boasted and did you support the Iraq War from listening to Fox News and the GOP?

            Batting ‘0’ (zero). I think you are and will continue.

            BTW John, I am not a victim here. I am the DESTROYER*.

            *of nonsense comments and, in your case, distortion and exaggeration.

      • @John, that’s the same thinking that brought us President Romney not. Remember when everyone but you and Fox knew Romney was a losing. Prepare yourself this is about to happen again very soon. I’m not sure who you’re trying to get the country back from? If it’s me, NO. You really got that talking point down, it was exactly like your leader Rush. Nothing like a Oxy addict to lead your party, please keep doing what your doing your type of thinking is what caused the GOP to shrink to no longer be a national party.

        • @Red
          John will be back. They are such masochists and victims. And masochists.

          They are allergic to reality. That must be awful. Imagine constantly walking into walls instead of doorways all day long. Those aren’t birth defects on their noggins, just lumps from bumping into walls. And victims.

          “Reality has a liberal bias” -Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondant’s Dinner with guest of honor, the ‘villiage idiot’, the ‘Great W’. He’s still trying to figure out that line.

          Have you seen W, lately? He looks older than his father. I guess it finally sunk in how horrible a president he was. I saw one of his first interviews after leaving office and his head was tilted so far to one side, his ear almost touched his shoulder. He looked like a sheepish little boy who knew he burned down the house.

          And, speaking of ‘sheep’, who uses the term ‘sheeple’ but people who watch Fox News and go to far right wing websites, in effect, being ‘sheep’ themselves. What a dilemma for poor, poor John.

        • @Red
          FOX News, MSNBC, and Rush are big time propagandists. I don’t listen to any of them.
          No need to stereotype me. You know nothing of my political party affiliations.

          • My answer to William has been ‘awaiting moderation’ for almost an hour now.
            It will prove what I said was true so…

          • @Red

            I told ya that John would be back because he just can’t get enough. Poor, poor victim

            I told ya that some are too embarrassed to reveal their affiliations and their news viewing habits or something like that and John shows up again to prove it.

            He likes to talk while hiding his true self.

          • @John

            So far, your ‘awaiting moderation’ comment hasn’t appeared.

            Let me guess. You’ve going to provide link to Fox News, Breitbart or Media Research Center. Or maybe, the RNC.

          • @John

            Maybe I was wrong assuming that your were parroting Fox News almost ‘word for word’.

            They are ‘parroting’ YOU!

            I’m hope you are being paid well.

            I love it when people say things like “You know nothing of my political party affiliations.”. I suspect they are hiding something. But, it’s easy to see what it is.

          • My comment appeared. It starts with…

            “Wow! You don’t know the definition of ‘propaganda’, do you.”

            Enjoy.

      • @John, you keep going with that type of thinking, that’s how we keep beating you, you only listen to stuff you agree with. You gave the party line talking point perfect. everyday is another conspiracy theory and we’re all going to die because Barack Obama is our president, you went to far with it and now we don’t hear you anymore. You can’t beat Hillary unless she has brain damage, that’s desperate. Remember when she was a murderer, lesbian, having an affair with the guy she killed. And the republicans took her out and secured the presidency for Mr Obama, thank you GOP. Apparently you’re doing that again, good luck.

        • @Red

          Boy, you nailed John pretty good. Here’s something I think you’ll enjoy.

          “When discussing possible GOP candidates for the 2016 presidential election on “The Colbert Report” on Thursday, the host showed a special interest in Florida Senator Marco Rubio and his knack for not answering somewhat controversial questions, like if he’s ever smoked marijuana.

          “Rubio can’t admit that he’s burned down, he’s trying to win over Republicans,” Colbert said. “The party that brought us just say no, first as a drug policy, then as their entire platform.”

          I like that last line. Too bad John’s ‘party’ doesn’t have any comedians. In fact, the right wingers thought he was one of them when his show first ran, for many months. Right wingers would be interviewed on his show and not realize they were being made fools. No wonder they are so miserable and whiny about everything.

          Poor, poor John. The world is ‘agin’ him.

          • @William
            Red nailed me? Nothing you both said about me was true. I am not a Republican to begin with.

            Because I don’t like Media Matters that makes me a Republican? How silly.

            You both are so blinded by your hatred of Republicans that your comments don’t even make sense.

          • @ John

            So, John, why do you, Eric, AJ and a few others all sound alike as well as sounding like Fox News talking points?

            Yet, you call me ‘sheeple’.

            You all deny party affiliations.

            You all suggest that both parties are equally to blame.

            And, you all take exception to well-deserved criticism of the GOP and/or Fox News which none of you watch…..supposedly.

            And, you all slame MSNBC which none of you watch……actually.

            Golly, in this conservative valley which for 30 years had no Democratic representatives till Steve Fox was elected, y’all didn’t vote republican. Interesting. There never are republicans here, are there? Interesting. I guess they won’t admit it.

            Either you all are the same person with different usernames or you all are really, really ‘sheep’ in ‘sheeps’ clothing’.

            Please proceed, John*

            I wonder if you’ll get that.

    • @William, remember when McKeon had him here to campaign with him. He was kicked out of the military for misconduct. That day, I said no more and started working to elect a democrat. Remember president 999

      • The GOP brought this on when they catered to the t-people for the votes while probably thinking them nutty behind their backs. They did that with the right wing evangelicals during the Bush 8 year slo mo disaster. A republican revealed how those in the administration mocked the religious right while vying for their support.

        That’s why we been treated to the real crazies such as Bachmann, Todd Akins, Palin, 999 pizza guy, Christine ‘I’m not a witch’ McDonnell, Sharon Angle in Nevada, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, Mike ‘the pathological liar’ Huckabee, Chris ‘Bridge Over Troubled Waters’ Christie, ex-Gov. Bob ‘Let’s Go To Prison’ McDonnell and others who have driven the republican party over the cliff in their Edsel Clown Victoria car.

        Then, there are the folks who just love them peoples and come here and write the Fox talking Points. And, there are those too embarrassed to admit that they voted for those and other crazies and watch Fox News and come here and write the Fox talking points.

        “How do you defend the stupid t-party?” We see their efforts every day.

        *That’s the title of a funny movie with Will Arnet and Dax Sheppard.

  56. People are so stupid.

    After I slide my credit card through the reader at a home improvement store, it said “PROCEED” and I jokingly said “Please proceed, governor”.

    Well, the young guy at the checkout had to have me explain what that was from. He said “I knew who was going to win. People just wanted to stick with ‘him'”.

    I said “He’ll leave the counrty in better shape than he found it” and his reply was “Just barely”. What a lame-brained individual.

    We were losing 750,000 jobs a month when Barack Obama took office. The housing market collapsed, etc.

    I told him he probably wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for President Obama. He aaid that he didn’t give him his job.

    Really. Housing market collapsed. Not much need for him at a home improvement store.

    No wonder this country is in such trouble with these deep thinkers around. Hopefully, he doesn’t vote based on his own thinking.

    • @William, maybe when the republicans have their way and lower the minimum wage he’ll pay attention. Probably not. Some people have no problem voting against their own interests.

  57. I’d like to change things up a bit and do an impression. Here’s my impression of “Red”: “Hey William, hey William!!” (tugging on William’s shirt tail). “What do you think of Eric?” “You should get your own domain name.” (tug, tug, tug). “I’d give anything to write like you William….so eloquent!” “William, William, William!” (tug, tug)…”I’m so glad we’re BFFs now….We both agree on everything” (tug, tug, tug). “Hey, hey, hey William…What do you think of……………………………………………………….”

    I bet William’s shirt is twice as long in back than it is in front. Come on now William…I know you’re laughing!!!!

      • @William, Wow, I made AJ jump the shark. He has to believe that I don’t think for myself and you’re the puppet master. Apparently AJ has very limited inter action with women or he would know that could not be true. AJ more scary, I think for myself and I am head if a 6 person family.

      • @William, so AJ and Eric don’t have sex with women?? If they do who pays? They say I’m stupid? Wow. I just want access, I don’t want them to pay

      • @William, Wow, that’s insulting? What a fun game, gang up on women day, that’s everyday for the republicans, what’s new with that?

    • @AJ, I’m pulling William shirt tails. You are so low you told me to get over my nephew. No one tells me what to think. So arrogant and out of reality obviously you are ignorant any time any place AJ, bring it unpatriotic, masochist.

        • @William, that’s not a woman my puppet master. Why do I have to be nut, slut, alcohol, taker, all because I don’t agree with Eric. That’s exactly what is so hypocritical. I’ve raised 5 college graduates, we all pay taxes. I’m proud to pay taxes and live in the greatest country ever. The GOP has turned into the whiney baby party. How about no more investigations into benghzi until you pay for them by raising taxes on the top 1percent of the 1 percent. If that is anyone reading this and I think you can afford it, if you’re not in that category please don’t defend rich people that’s why you have your elected representatives in congress.

    • @AJ, so you’re idea to change things up is to use me as a punching bag. This is exactly why we don’t we vote for you and your HOP buddies. THANKS AJ, you just showed everything I’ve been saying. You are disrespectful and out of touch.

    • @Eric/ AJ, you misunderstood. I want the to be able to have access to birth control. I don’t need you pay. The man I am with takes care of business. He understands that it’s not just me it’s our family. So if you have sex with women why don’t you trust us ?

      • You have access to birth control. Its sold in a box at many stores. Your male friend can purchase a box, and if so desired, you can help him apply it. Why am I getting taxed to subsidize YOUR birth control when I’m out here handling my own business with my own finances?

        Don’t be silly…wrap that….

        • @Eric, my healthcare care doesn’t come a box at the 99 cent store does yours? Your remarks are ignorant. If you have sex with women ask them. If they agree with you, I suggest you stick with her cuz that’s could be hard to fine. Luckily the men in my life are secure and smart and trust women.They treat men and women equal. Why are women your your punching bag?

          • Emotional, me, no. You, always. Never hit, punched, mistreated a woman in my life. I love my queens and princesses, and treat them as any good knight should. Birth control is a dual party item. Both people need to be involved. I’m not going to put the burden on my female friends to secure health insurance and costly medication though, especially when I can get a box of Trojans at just about any store (Double Magnum of course!!!!! I jest.)

          • @Eric, so you’re gay? Cuz your not with woman obviously? Is that what you’re saying ?

          • Ha, I thought they only had fire and forget on weapon systems, didn’t realize they moved it to neural implants yet.

          • @Eric, you do know your condoms. TMI maybe? I’m not as schooled in that subject so I don’t disagree. I’m not asking you to go buy, I’m talking about healthcare. You do understand reproductive health is part of what us and our healthcare? R u saying reproductive health is separate from the rest of my healthcare?

          • You want TMI? When I was a young man in Okinawa, we watched a live banana show once. I ate the banana.

          • @Eric, no I don’t want to play with you. Today you were Okinawa with bananas yesterday you were an Iraq and Afghanistan war vet. Are you Steve Knight? TMI, figure it out

        • @Eric, when were you ever taxed for my birth control,? I don’t want to pay for your viagra, that’s why we have healthcare insurance? So is that ok with you? I’m out here having, raising, feeding and teaching the next-generation. We all work hard, stop belittling me because I’m woman. I’m not your punching bag for your negative attitude towards women. Read what you said, now we know everything about we need to know about you cave man?

          • Oh, don’t worry, my equipment is all functioning in proper order, no meds required. Caveman huh? Rough around the edges, not for everyone, indeed. Who pays the subsidy for your healthcare insurance? The government, and where do they get their money from?

            Thin air and the taxpayers pocket. If you are teaching the next generation, I’m deeply concerned. There is a word to describe you; My name, with an extra R, a T, and an A, somewhere in the jumble.

            Want to play a game Red? Guess the word. E_____C.

        • @Eric
          Just to play the ‘devils advocate’, why should the rest of us pay for your veterans benefits. You ‘volunteered’ didn’t you? Why should we pay for your Viagra?

          Many on the right would like to cut back benefits to police and firefighters who also ‘volunteered’ and are also injured on the job as are workers who pay into Workmen’s Compensation.

          Do you really want to go down that ‘why should taxpayers pay for X,Y or Z’ rabbit hole? I don’t want churches to be tax exempt nor their members’ donations to be tax deductible. The same folks who benefit from those tax advantages want to control women’s health issues because they are hypocrites. BIG FAT HYPOCRITES.

          You may have some expertize in the military but out here in the civilian world, your notions don’t hold up well. Did you think you were entitled to a ‘pass’?

      • When you drink too much, your vision runs together. That is what you are experiencing.

        • @Eric, no I don’t drink. But keep on trying to belittle me, no one makes my point better than you. TIM, no what it is yet? I am a strong, educated, woman, and if that’s scary be very afraid.

          • @Eric, so that’s all you got ? Either way you’re answer doesn’t make sense. So I’m a nut, slut. and stupid women so is that why I need you to legislate morality for me? TooMuchInformation. Please no more information about your sex life.

    • @AJ, thx for making a woman a punching bag. You are making my point about Grumpy Old People.No matter how much power you have, you keep whining and blaming your short comings on women and poor people. Tak

    • @Eric
      I’ve never read a comment of yours addressing the Cheney/Bush team for invading Iraq based on lies and a strong determination to go after Saddam the minute they took office in 2000.

      That they ignored the President’s Daily Brief that said that al Qaeda is planning an attack on the US one month before 9/11.

      That they, with the repubican Congress, cut taxes at the same time they were fighting 2 wars and leaving them off budget. AND CRASHING OUR ECONOMY.

      And, so on and so forth.

      As someone in the military, I would think you would be spittin’ mad at those 2 and the GOP.

      But, you hassle me for criticizing them and they certainly deserve the harshest criticism. I keep reading the neither one dares leave the country or they might be arrested and hauled off to the Hague for war crimes. I wish, I wish.

      For that reason, I don’t take your comments on many much smaller issues such as DUI checkpoints too seriously when you blithely ignore the BIG issues. You’ll be paying off those wars for the rest of your lifetime while much needed things like infrastructure rebuilding and job creation go begging for funds.

      I just don’t get why you do that.

      • Hmmmmmm… So are you implying that you don’t care about these drone attacks because someone hasn’t commented on Bush’s tyrannical ways? Did Bush screw up? Oh yeah. But, please don’t turn a blind eye to mistakes that are going on today. It’s almost like Noone is allowed to criticize the current administration without condemning the previous ones. I thought the fact that Bush was a bad president was a nobrainer?

        • @blue or is it teal?

          Over 100,000 Iraqis were killed and they weren’t all soldiers. For you to fuss and fume over drones is quite interesting. Did you fuss that much during the Cheney/Bush years or is ‘drones’ your version of ‘Benghazi, ‘IRS’ or ‘Fast and Furious’. Y’know, just something to whine about.

          Since 9/11, we are in a different world as far as warfare. Fighting terrorists doesn’t require tanks and armies crossing foreign lands like in the ‘good ol’ days’.

          American police and sheriff deputies shoot and kill American citizens often, sometimes improperly. Are you concerned about that?

          Is this your first knowledge of civilian casualties in war? Cheney just said that President Obama is weak and you’re bitching about drones. Which is it?

          American citizens are shooting up schools and other public places but you’re focusing on ‘drones’. Good luck.

          We are still digging out from the hole Cheney/Bush left us in so it’s not inappropriate to mention them as the source of a lot of our current problems. Or didn’t you know that?

          Spare me your narrowly focused concern. Meanwhile, republicans want to name everything they can after that forgetful
          silly man, Ronald Wilson Reagan.

          Republicans and their tea party crazies are a more serious threat to this country than ‘drones’ or even terrorists. Republican governors that refuse Medicaid expansion are likely to cause more deaths than 9/11, drones or the 4 in Benghazi that they are obsessed with.

          I simply won’t put up with your inability to see a much larger picture. Why don’t you and Eric discuss drones between yourselves. I don’t care about that subject.

          • Right is right. Wrong is wrong. Who, what, where is subject to change. Your Democrat/Republican mud flinging is sad and comical. I have many concerns that are not “narrowly-minded”. Just because one of my concerns involves the Obama administration, you start flinging your mud. How could you be so narrowly-minded to think that if i make one comment, that is the only issue I’m concerned about? According to you, every comment must include an in-depth encyclopedia.

            “Republicans this” “Republicans that”….I’m not disagreeing with the fact that there are many jokesters, however, I think your becoming the joke big guy.

          • I care about our country. All the things you mentioned included. But for to say you don’t care about done strokes is downright nauseating. Now, would you honestly say that, if the President were a Republican? Hmmmmmm….

          • @blue

            Drones aren’t on my front burner yet some people expect me to address the issue.

            That’s like saying “Meerkats: Discuss”. There are so many issues confronting us now and that isn’t my top one. It may be for you.

            It was reported today on the Huffington Post that President Obama will address the justification for drone strikes in the next day or two. I’m sure he has much more information on the subject than you or I do.

            Then, maybe we can go from there.

            Right now and until November, my priority is getting rid of as many republican office holders as possible. I’m sending a contribution to Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat running against Mitch McConnell for his Senate seat. He’s got to go. And, after listening to her speech today, I think she’ll make him wish he was never born. Tough, smart lady.

          • Hmm, no time to worry about drone strikes. No time to worry about the children we’ve killed in other countries. No time to worry that we are motivating the next generation of terrorists in these countries, you know, not like enough people have died for the new Red Scare over the past 13 years. He is busy trying to get Pubs out.

            I don’t need to criticize Bush/Cheney, Bill. The democratic party has done it enough, nothing is going to happen to either, so its pointless. I can atleast rail against the harms the current administration is causing.

            FYI, the drone program expanded massively under Obama. We’ve created an endless kill list; the names don’t run out, we just continue to add new ones. The administration even came out and admitted that they aren’t even targeting terrorists only with the drone strike programs.

            Lest we not forget, that Bush’s lies for the Iraq War fail in comparison to Lyndon B Johnson’s lies for the Vietnam War. So, hey, Bush technically dug into the Democrat book of tricks. You remember the Gulf of Tonkin, don’t you Bill?

          • @Eric
            Debate the ‘drone’ issue amongst yourselves.

            If you are going to go down the ‘rabbit hole’ of “what about the Gulf of Tonkin?”, you can go alone. That and the Civil War, if you like.

      • @Eric, you work on the drone thing. Not because I don’t care because I prioritize. After we don’t elect another Grumpy Old Person and make sure we don’t have any more SCALIA law. I’m concerned about the rights I’m losing and will not stand for it. So please stop, I care about many issues, but right now I am laser focused on getting someone who’s never voting to take my healthcare or my birth control. I’m not voting on drones, I’m voting on my family’s future. I’ll take my chances with drones but I won’t take the chance of another republican cuz I have seen that show already and it wasn’t good.

        • @Red
          I’m glad you mentioned priorities. It is also my priority to replace McKeon with a Democrat.

          If the republicans take the Senate in November, it will likely happen that:

          -some made-up impeachment scandal will begin in the House

          -nothing will get done in the next 2 years.

          -if President Obama has to nominate a Supreme Court judge, it will be crazy time.

          -we might have another recession due to the obstruction in both Houses of Congress.

          That must not happen.

        • If ya can’t afford birth control, STOP HAVING SEX UNTIL YOU CAN!! Don’t make successful people pay for the fun you can’t afford!

          • Really, AJ. Priests can’t ‘leave it along’ and that’s your advice to all women?

            Of course, in your world view, men take no part in the process. How convenient.

            Aren’t you with the people that would ban birth control and/or abortions?

          • @AJ, thanks for the advice, I see you’re not concerned about women’s health? Do you have sex with women? Then who pays?

          • The old male mantra. “You pay for it one way or the other.” One of the few things in the world, that when offered for free, your better off turning down.

            Considering you are pretty adamant you want the government out of the bedroom, why does it matter how he gets it?

    • @Eric, it’s interesting how Willard Romney isn’t President remember back when he won in FOX news mind. That’s the same as you, you are in your own echo chamber, we’re telling you, you don’t listen. Funny huh?

  59. Today, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said this>

    “My uncle, President John F. Kennedy’s Pulitzer Prize winning best-seller Profiles in Courage recounted the stories of courageous U.S. Senators — Republicans and Democrats — who chose patriotism over partisanship and sacrificed personal ambition to national welfare. The GOP’s recent efforts to gin up presidential scandals in punitive hearings, media lynchings, and weekly calls for impeachment, evince a party-wide pathology that puts partisanship over patriotism. For Republicans who believe that patriotism ends with lapel pins and cowboy costumes, it might be useful to consider some historical examples of true patriotism by a political party.”

    Finally! I was saying that the republicans exhibited pathologies back in 2009.

    Chipotle and Starbucks have new pollcies banning guns in their stores. Some fools in Texas went into a Starbucks with unconcealed weapons causing a sense of intimidation and discomfort to the staff and other patrons.

    I wonder if their discomfort was more or less severe than the discomfort those same fools must feel when they see 2 men kissing on the teevee machine. We hear from the right how awful that is with children watching and blah, blah, blah, but the same or darn close mentality turns around and parades wearing visible weapons. And, that’s OK. Too bad if others are discomforted.

    But, the right is schizoid about everything. They want to both ban abortion AND cut benefits to women and children. They yap about the deficit/debt while starting very expensive wars that we are still paying for plus a trillion dollars to care for those veterans.

    They wanted to shut down the government but howled when the Washington Monument was closed during the shutdown. Poor babies. Poor, poor crazy babies. Never mind the cuts to social services for the very poor because those clowns wanted to be ‘patriotic’ by demanding that the monument be open. Selfish, hypocritical crazy babies.

    See a pattern here. Pick any issue and the republicans are hypocritical about it.

    They are crazy and it’s difficult for the Democrats to manage the country while the crazy ones want to grab the wheel and drive us into another ditch like the one Cheney/Bush did. Because they’re CRAZY!. That’s not normal, reasonable or sane behavior. But, that’s the current GOP/TP.

    While Eric and Jason were in Iraq and Afghanistan, many of us saw all this craziness up close and personal, day after effing day. That is why they mistakenly think both parties are the same. They are not.

      • @Red
        I’m not sure how to take your reply to me.

        If you disagree with some part or all of it, it would be useful if you stated that.

        Thanks.

        • @William, I’m Red not red. I totally agree 100 percent. Eric /AJ can’t take the Truth, you know

          • WARNING!!!
            The following may or may not contain sarcasm.

            I just realized why Eric and Jason want the drones to stop.

            They want to GO BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

            That’s like the Koch brothers fighting alternative energy in Kansas, because they gots the oil.

      • @William, I didn’t think that up but maybe you should snap it up as domain name. Remind us of the 6 Senate seats the GOP gave us. And it’s quite a show in the CA 25, McKeon gone, McCarthy next. They reduced themselves to a small regional party and are trying to hang on here and it’s over. It’s grief, denial, anger soon acceptances hopefully.

        • @Red

          “acceptance” Are you kidding me? They will just go back to grief, denial and anger in an endless loop.

          I can’t think of anything they’ve accepted. They are still fighting Social Security and Medicare after umpteen decades.

          I won’t cut them any slack or give them a break any longer. They’ve lost the right to expect any respect or tolerance for their unacceptable behavior the last couple decades.

  61. I a mom and I don’t want my family and friends healthcare to be taken from us. Mr. Strickland and Mr. Knight both promise to repeal healthcare, they are against raising the minimum wage and don’t support equal pay for women and by the way we’ll say what kind birth control or if it will be available. I don’t agree with your policies that’s it you don’t have to keep beating me up.

  63. @Truth, I guess you won’t be there for the Ian Stewart memorial fund, cuz we are over that??? You are over it his family his not

  65. @Eric/AJ and all you’re other personas you have today. I’ll ask you again did you serve? Obviously not. Why do you always manipulate things to make yourself look good. I know what I think, if any republicans had a brain you would be listening and not talking to try your way out, it’s not working. So keep the good work. IT’S MORAL MONDAY we support the fight

    • I did serve. 12 years as an US Marine. Once again, did you? Where do you get off questioning peoples service?

      • @Eric, I asked you a question?? I’m not getting off. I’m typing to understand. Support Ian Stewart memorial.

        • “I’ll ask you again did you serve?” The little mark you put at the end denotes a question. Which was answered. I notice you didn’t answer mine.

          • @AJ and Eric, I hope you both go support Ian Stewart, he died in December 2004. AJ you told to me move on…remember. Eric we’ll meet ar

          • @AJ and Eric, I hope you both go support Ian Stewart, he died in December 2004. AJ you told to me move on…remember. Eric we’ll meet at the fundraiser and you’ll see for yourself. Stop telling me how to think or what to think. I know what I’m about I don’t care what you think or say because if I listened to people like you, I wouldn’t be where I am today, so bring it on boys another woman to attack and belittle.

      • @Eric, who said you get decide who gets to give there opinions?? Since I don’t agree with you have to belittle my opinion and AJ is such a patriot, he tells me it’s to long to remember back to 2004. You both want to selectively pick facts and things we can talk about. Keep ganging up on me men, that’s what keeps me going.

        • No, I questioned what gave you the right to critique or doubt the authenticity of someone else’s service. How would you feel if someone accused your son of lying about his service?

          I served 12 and don’t call anyone out unless they’ve fragrantly left evidence that their a liar. AJ was out of line with his comment, you were equally out of line with yours when you accused him of being untruthful about his service. Unless you were there with him, or have evidence supporting you, you had no right to call his service into question.

          • @Eric, I feel disrespected and didn’t want to believe that another soldier would act so shameful. I am unsure, why you choose to keep defending ignorant behavior but I’m out of line and paranoid to you. Why can’t you bring yourself to stop. So since I think for myself I’m nuts, will I be a slut next? The GOP wants to legislate my reproductive rights, then demonize me as the problem with America, the single mom on welfare. You pay us less and belittle our judgement. Eric you don’t regulate me. I will fight for what I believe is right. If I’m so whacky why do you care what I say.

          • @Eric, wow, so judgemental. You feel like I’m nuts okay? That’s how I feel towards you also. We’ll see who is the congressperson in November and then we will see. Hopefully you’ll get over yourself by the time we elect our next president no matter who she is. Feel free to keep talking, if you think you sound reasonable go for it but maybe you’re talking to the wrong audience.

          • @Eric, wow aren’t you the man. Defend ignorant comments and then pile on with your own ignorant thoughts. So any man can make any comment but the ladies follow your rules, selective facts, subjects and you as final judgment.

          • @Eric, I teach all my children to respect all people. Number 1 Mom’s, women and all points of view. I am defending my children now. If you don’t understand then go on or try to learn because you keep talking to people who agree with you so you hear what you want to hear.

          • @Eric; you questioned and critiqued me because you are who? And I answer to you because of what? You are the judge because you say? I guess you need to find someone who cares because men attempting to control women is very old to us women.

        • You get em red! Hey, it’s not like your name isn’t plastered all over the comments section with derogative comments–you’re above that right?

          • @blue, the truth hurts. All of those comments against me are all one person they just make up more personas to prove their truthiness. I’m just one mom who is sick and tired of Grumpy Old People. This is not a teabag district no republican can win until they charge their policies. McCarthy your next

  66. I ran across ths post on the Huffington Post and couldn’t resist posting it here.

    I am assume that all of it is accurate unless you can show otherwise.

    “GDP is UP, Durable Goods are UP, Housing is UP, Production is UP, Exports are UP, Construction is UP, Unemployment is DOWN, Stock Market is UP, Consumer Confidence is UP, Retail Sales are UP, Deficit is going DOWN, we had a $107 Billion budget surplus in April, the uninsured is down by 15%, Bin Laden is GONE, DADT is GONE, minimum wage has gone up for Government Contractors, more illegals were Deported in this administration than in “prior administrations” (in other words Bush), Equal Pay for Women Bill signed (Lilly Ledbetter) and. YOU don’t like his Job Performance.”
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-sees-107-billion-april-budget-surplus-2014-05-12

    Compare that to Bush 43’s 8 years in office. And, given the unprecedented obstruction and incompetence of the GOP/tea party, it’s quite remarkable.

    There’s still more to do as President Obama has said repeatedly, so I would be very worried about putting any more republicans in office. I’m talking Strickland or Knight, here to represent the 25th district. McKeon is going, so let’s not screw it up with either one of those 2 regressives.

    You know that if the republicans take the Senate, they’ll do impeachment in the House, try to repeal Obamacare and ban abortion and simply mess up everything once again like they always do. Oh, and Crazy John McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham will try to have us invade another country, any country will do.

  67. Americans are so funny and have such short memories. I was reading about the possibility of Jeb Bush running for president. A lot of posters were complaining about the Bushes and Clintons and not wanting dynasties as if it were something new.

    John Adams was the second president.

    John Quincy Adams, his son, was the sixth president.

    Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt were 5th cousins and FDR was related by blood or marriage to 11 other presidents. And, he managed quite well during the Great Depression and WWII.

    So, while Americans are averse to dynasties, it ain’t like it’s never happened before. After all, Americans vote them in whether they are good (FDR) or rotten like Bush 43. Heck, 43, was elected, er, selected twice, yet I’m sure there are those who voted for him twice will say “No more Clintons” because, y’know, they’re hypocrites. As for Jeb, he’s cursed with the Bush name while Hillary’s name is associated with the ‘Peace and Prosperity’ of the 1990s despite the GOP and they’re silly impeachment nonsense. His job approval rating was in the mid to high 60s DURING impeachment. How ’bout that?

  68. On a totally different subject, Barbara Walters left ‘The View’. She announced a year ago and should have left then. Good riddance.

    She was on Bill O’Reilly’s Factor crapola show the other day when he asked her if there is a ‘War on Women’. She said ‘No’.

    Is she that out of touch with reality? Republican governors and legislators are trying to pass laws limiting abortion rights, forcing women to have ‘vaginal ultrasounds’ before they can have an abortion when they aren’t medically necessary, making unnecessarily stringent rules for Planned Parenthood clinics that nearly all of them have closed in states like Texas, ignore wage gaps between men and women in the workplace and so on. Mike ‘The Lying Liar’ Huckabee yapped about ‘women’s libido’ while republican politicians talked about ‘legitimate rape’ and women’s bodies natural response to rape making then not capable of conceiving and other nonsense from right wingers.

    Baba, you are a complete idiot. I never cared for your so-called interviews anyway. Does anyone recall anything that a person Baba interviewed said that was noteworthy. It was always about Baba’s ‘gets’ and nothing more. She sat there looking like she was mentally rehearsing her next question instead of listening to the answer to the stupid one she just asked.

    While I was waiting in the lobby of the car dealership a few years ago, The View was on the teevee. I couldn’t believe those people were getting paid to yap endlessly. They should have been sitting under those big beehive shaped hair dryers in a beauty salon instead.

    Anyway, get out of town, Baba. You really stunk up the place. The only good you’ve done was to supply Saturday Night Live with material for some good laughs.

  69. IF you don’t trust me with a choice why would you trust me with a baby?? I’m writing a bill that every man who wants testosterone has to have a colonoscopy and then we’ll decide, not u, not your family, not your doctor.

  71. I wonder if it bothers people like William P. to know that all of the people on the “Most Wanted” list in Palmdale and Lancaster probably vote for his cherished Democrat Party?

    • @Truth, your comment is ignorant and UN true this exactly the perfect example of what a Grumpy Old Person sounds like. This attitude is exactly why the republicans can only be regional party, small thinking

      • The funny thing is that you actually think I’m an “old person”. Guess the joke’s on you!

        • @true, there is nothing about you. Your ignorant behavior tells us all we need to know. You can change your name and age on here but you’re still you. Have fun with your family, they must so proud. I’m on my bandwagon. Why do you want to jump in my bedroom with legislation?

        • @William, you know the GOP can’t handle the truth. They want to selectively pick and choose facts that we can discuss. Look at how the nuts who are running. GOP you’re not getting it. There beating me up

          • They are like all republicans, Fox News and birthers.

            They are always pretending that all they are doing is ‘asking questions’.

            However, like birthers, by now we know that they are already predisposed not to accept any answers. None. Nada.

            For example, they constantly tell us that the unemployment numbers and/or any other measures are ‘cooked’ when they improve. But, they were fine when the numbers were terrible.

            We are wise to them. They just aren’t wise to themselves.

            I promise you that if and when Hillary Clinton runs for the Democratic nomination and releases her medical records as do all candidates for president, they will say they are ‘forged’ or ‘altered’ or whatever. They won’t accept them. How do I know that? Cause that’s what they do.

        • @Truth, nothing about you funny, so where’s the joke? But younin, young adult is 30. So just how young are you. What year did u graduate?

        • @True, okay so you’re saying you’re just grumpy and the jokes on me okay. I’m not sure you’re definition of old but if it’s as off as you’re definition of funny, you really express yourself in way that ages you.

    • @Truth, oops there’s a republican on the most wanted, cuz we all know how politically motivated people are when there on the run. And it’s Mrs Parris, not another loaded gun at the airport, oh no that’s right nothing happened to her. Just cuz you’re not on the most doesn’t mean you don’t deserve to be. Knight, Parris, McKeon, Runner are all still robbing us. They only reason Steve Knight is running is those is cuz of term limits. We’re not going back. California 25 is not a red district, ask Buck McKeon that’s why he is retiring.

      • Like I’ve said before “Steve Knight is as useless as an ashtray on a motorcyle.”.

        What has he accomplished in Sacramento? Other than voting the party line and that ‘party line’ is bankrupt.

        I doubt many people in Santa Clarita or Simi Valley will vote for him and not everyone in the Antelope Valley is thrilled with him either. He just wants on the gravy train that the Runner’s have ‘lived’ on and off of for decades. I’m guessing he’ll then want to be on the Board of Equalization next. What else is there for him? He ain’t goin’ back to being a cop.

        Let’s give ol’ Steve an early retirement and be rid of him. He doesn’t want college students to be able to vote on their campuses and voted against funding for it. That’s all you need to know about Steve.

        • There’s plenty of useless politicians voting the party line. Loving the ashtray line though!

          • That analogy about the ashtray only makes sense when you realize he’s done nothing in Sacramento.

            You couldn’t say that about Assembymember Steve Fox who’s gotten more done in less time than ol’ Steve Knight. Knight will simply vote ‘No’ on everything like he does now. Anyone could do that if they were funded by, oh, say the KOCH BROTHERS. I wonder if Steve is wanting that money.

  72. ATTEN HUN! CAP’N LANCASTER HERE WITH YOUR LANCASTER CITY COUNCIL MEETING UPDATE.

    OUR FEARLESS MAYOR COULDN’T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING TONIGHT, SO THE SHOW WAS RUN BY NO OTHER THAN THE CHOSEN ONE MARV CRIST. MARV IS SETTLING INTO HIS NEW ROLE AS THE PARRIS LAPDOG WHO WILL SOMEDAY BE GIVEN ALL THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT PARRIS, GILLEY AND VISCO HOLD ONTO. WHICH ARE THE IMPORTANT ONES!

    MAYBE OLE REX IS JUST TOO TIRED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. AFTER ALL HE’S BEEN BUSY RUNNING AROUND WITH HIS COMMUNIST BUDDIES FROM CHINA BUILDING BUSSES AT $1.50 AN HOUR WAGES. AND HE’S BEEN GIVING SPEECHES ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT A BRILLIANT SCIENTIST OLE REX IS AND HOW HE GRADUMATED MAGNA CUM BS IN SCIENCE. CAP’N LANCASTER IS SICK AND DAMN TIRED OF LISTENING TO THESE WANNA BE THE-SKY-IS-FALLING PSUEDO-SCIENTISTS WHO RUN AROUND IN THERE PRIVATE AIRPLANES, FANCY CARS, AND MAINTAIN BIG OLE FANCY DANCY HOUSES THAT USE MORE ELECTRICITY THAN A SMALL VILLAGE! TOO BAD OLE REX IS MORE WORRIED ABOUT BANGLADESH GOING UNDERWATER THAN HE IS ABOUT ALL THE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE IN TOWN AND PEOPLE GETTING ROBBED ON THE BLVD. IF YOU REALLY WANNA SAVE BANGLADESH FROM GOING UNDERWATER, WHY DON’T YOU TAKE YOUR STUPID SLIDE SHOW AND EVANGELISTS MICROPHONE THAT STICKS OUT THE SIDE OF YOUR HEAD AND BELINE OVER TO CHINA AND INDIA WHERE THERE BURNING COAL FASTER THAN A PLANTIFF’S ATTORNEY FOLLOWING AN AMBULANCE.

    AND SPEAKING OF CHINA, SEEMS LIKE OLE REX CAN’T SEEM TO FIGGER OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RACISM AND IDEOLOGY. HE KEEPS SAYING THAT PEOPLE WHO DON’T WANT THE COMMUNISTS OPENING UP BUSINESSES HERE IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY ARE RACISTS. RINGY RINGY! RINGY RINGY! HELLO REX! IT’S THE CLUE PHONE! COMMUNISM IS AN IDEOLOGY. IT AIN’T A RACE. IT AIN’T NO ETHNICITY. CAP’N LANCASTER IS NOT A COMMUNIST AND HE DON’T WANT NO COMMIES SETTING UP THEIR SHOPS AND SENDING THEIR SPIES TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY’S BUILDING OUR TOP SECRET MILITARY PROGRAMS. NEITHER DOES THEM DEFENSE COMPANIES. CAP’N LANCASTER DOES NOT LIKE TO BE A DOWNER, BUT MARK MY WORDS IF THESE COMMIES KEEP MOVING IN, OUR DEFENSE COMPANIES WILL MOVE OUT. THAT MEANS ALL THEM GOOD JOBS WILL BE GONE. ALL THAT WILL BE LEFT ARE THEM $1.50 AN HOUR BYD BUS JOBS. ALL 35 OF THEM.

    CAP’N LANCASTER IS STILL SCRATCHING HIS HEAD WHY OLE REX WASN’T THERE FOR THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT – LANCASTER IS GOING TO SAVE THE PLANET BY SELLING US ELECTRICITY! WELL, THAT IS BS, BUT CAP’N LANCASTER LIKES THE CONCEPT. CAP’N LANCASTER IS JUST A BIT SUSPECT OF WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING. I KNOW, I KNOW. WE SHOULD QUESTION OUR MAYOR AND HIS HAND PICKED CITY COUNCIL. BUT AFTER ALL THE FISCAL FIASCOS THAT CREATED OUR HUGE DEBT, SHREDDED OUR BOND STATUS, GAVE US THAT RIDICULUOUS FLYING SPY PLANE, INSIDER DEALS WITH HIS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS OVER THE WALMART AND SWEET DEALS WITH U OF AV, YOU GET A LITTLE SUSPICOUS.

    AND INSTEAD OF RIPPING UP OUR DESERT SPREADING DIRT AND DUST AND VALLEY FEVER, WHY AIN’T THEY DOING ANY ROOFTOP SOLAR? CAP’N LANCASTER IS ALL ABOUT PUTTING SOLAR ON HIS ROOF, NOT IN THE POPPY FIELDS. AND THIS NONSENSE ABOUT NET ZERO. NET ZERO? WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN? I HATE TO BE THE ONE WHO RUINS THEIR MUTUAL ADMIRATION SOCIETY PARTY BUT ONCE THE SUN GOES DOWN THEY AIN’T NET ZERO. THEY ARE ON THE GRID SUCKING UP ELECTRICITY POWERED BY FOSSIL FUELS. NET ZERO MY ASS. THE ONLY THING NET ZERO ABOUT THIS BUNCH IS THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT THEY DON’T BENEFIT FROM. NET ZERO!

    SPEAKING OF NET ZERO, THAT’S WHAT OUR CITY BANK ACCOUNT IS GONNA BE AFTER WE GET DONE PAYING FOR ALL THESE LAWSUITS, COURTESY OF OUR MAYOR AND HIS BIG FAT YAPPER. HERE’S THE LIST:

    1.
    Conference with Legal Counsel – Anticipated Litigation: significant exposure to litigation pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(d) (2) – four potential cases.

    2.
    Conference with Legal Counsel – Anticipated Litigation: consideration of initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9(d) (4) – one potential case.

    3.
    Conference with Legal Counsel–Existing Litigation – Government Code Section 54956.9(d) (1)

    4.
    Coalition for Open Government v. City of Lancaster, Case No. BC499047

    5.
    Quartz Hill Cares v. City of Lancaster, Case No. BS 122336

    6.
    Lancaster v. Housing Authority of the County of Los Angeles (HACoLA) Case No. MC023649

    7.
    Rubin v. Lancaster – United States District Court Case No. CV 10-4046 DSF (JCx)

    8.
    Save Our Neighborhood Group v. City of Lancaster, et al. Los Angeles Superior Court Case No. BS 121501.

    9.
    Shabazz v. Parris, USDC, Central Case No. CV12-5803 SVW (JEM)

    10.
    ANTELOPE VALLEY GROUNDWATER CASES Included Actions:

    Los Angeles County Waterworks District No. 40 v. Diamond Farming Co. Superior Court of California, County of Kern, Case No. S-1500-CV-254-348

    Wm. Bolthouse Farms, Inc. v. City of Lancaster, Diamond Farming Co. v. City of Lancaster, Diamond Farming Co. v. Palmdale Water District Superior Court of California County of Riverside, consolidated actions; Case Nos. RIC 353 840, RIC 344 436, RIC 344 668

    Santa Clara Case No. 1-05-CV 049053

    WELL, DOWN ON THE BLESSED BLVD, IT IS BUSINESS AS USUAL. PEOPLE GETTING ASSAULTED FOR NOT SHARING THEIR SANDWICHES. PEOPLE ASKING PASSERBYES FOR MONEY. NO BOUTIQUE HOTEL OPENING. AT LEAST NO STORES HAVE CLOSED THIS TIME. STILL WAITING FOR MY CUSTARD SHOP. CAP’N LANCASTER LOVES HIS CUSTARD. TOO BAD WE CAN’T GET A COUPLE OF COPS TO PATROL THE BLVD AND MAKE IT SAFE FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN. BUT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT STUPID SPY PLANE THAT OLE REX’S PALS OWN. WHAT A CROCK.

    NOW I’M MAD, SO I BETTER SIGN OFF BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING STUPID LIKE REX IS THE BEST MAYOR I’VE EVER SEEN. WHAT? OH NO. MY MEDICATION IS WEARING OFF! THIS HAS BEEN CAP’N LANCASTER WITH YOUR LANCASTER CITY COUNCIL MEETING UPDATE. AT EASE!

      • ‘net zero’ refers to the amount of class and integrity that Rex Parris has.

        It’s not a good thing.

        • Isn’t that the truth. A rare combination of unchecked ego, compulsive lying, delusionary thought, relentless bullying, a scared and unintelligent electorate, and buckets of money. How did we get so lucky?

          • That’s quite a collection of attributes ol’ Rex has.

            It shows that money can’t buy integrity, honesty, humility, or clear thinking. Think of Donald Sterling who is even richer that Rexikins and almost as disgusting.

            Rex will certainly have to live with the backlash of his dishonest and dillusional ways like Sterling is doing. He wants love and respect but he ain’t gettin’ it. He has to pander to ignorant people for votes and you know he cant’ stand them or the buttkissers on the council. When are Mann and Johnson going to grow beards so they’ll all look like Rex?

          • Unfortunately not as rare as I would like here, it’s Rex and little Rexs until we make the change

        • When has he ever told the truth? Seriously, it seems every word out of his mouth is deceptive, twisted or an outright lie.

    • Cap’n Lancaster’s is right. We don’t need communists from China infiltrating the vally. What kind of idiot would encourage people who are trying to steal our intelligence to move next door? I thought the bird sounds and eye in the sky were dumb. They are. But this BS is flat out dangerous. And the idiot laughs it off and hides behind his solar BS, which is also BS.

    • What about all the dirt and Valley Fever caused by his solar projects? Why doesn’t he put solar panels on buildings? It will stop the press of Valley Fever.

  73. @William- if Obama declared Benghazi an act of terror right after it happened, why did he say it was because of a video at the U.N. a week and a half later? Hopefully you will read this before it gets pulled…it appears that these types of questions are frowned upon by the moderators.

    • Keep moving the goal posts. At first, the republicans complained that the President didn’t refering to the attacks as terrorist attackes but the next day, he said in the Rose Garden ‘these acts of terror’.

      The republicans fussed over the difference between ‘acts of terror’ and their preferred ‘terrorist acts’. Remember “Please proceed, governor”????

      Address that first.

    • @AJ

      Here’s part of what Susan Rice said on Sunday Sept 16, 2012 on Face the Nation. Notice the first sentence and how the republicans and Fox News simply ignored it. “…best information….our assessment is as of the present…”.

      So, AJ, were there protests in Cairo and elsewhere at the time based on the video? If so, why was it so unimaginable that the Benghazi attacks were somehow related to it as well until further information was known and confirmed. Only in the right wing mind do they distort language so well.

      Rice: “Based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.”

      Host Bob Schieffer: “But you do not agree with (Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.) that this was something that had been plotted out several months ago?”

      Rice: “We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.”

      Schieffer: “Do you agree or disagree with him that al-Qaida had some part in this?”

      Rice: “Well, we’ll have to find out that out. I mean I think it’s clear that there were extremist elements that joined in and escalated the violence. Whether they were al-Qaida affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al-Qaida itself I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.”

      Rep. Trey Gowdy’s mouth has already tainted the Select Oommittee’s hearing. He referred to it as a ‘trial’ and he misstated the contents of an email to distort the message. Only later was the email released showing him to be a liar.

      • William- paragraphs noting Rice, Schieffer, and Gowdy….but not one mention of the problem I presented you with in my question. I’m shocked! Way to avoid the issue! (But I understand…Liberals all have trouble with that one).

        • @AG what questions you want to? There has been 4 investigations and none found nothing one in the Senate, 1 Darrell issa and buck McKeon so you’re saying they are lying. So u want questions about talking points? So where’s investigation to into Bush lying us into occupying another, my nephew died there so let’s talk. It’s brainghazi now. The only way u can beat her is if she has brain damage, WOW

          • The investigation into Bush’s lies to invade Iraq is likely right next to the investigation into Johnson for the debacle in Vietnam. Or do you actually believe that the boats in the Tonkin were attacked?

        • So, that’s it, AJ-the smoking gun. Why, then, hasn’t Issa called for impeachment if the President said that?

          You drank all the Kool-aid. Leave some for the rest of the baggers.

          • Why don’t we wait for the hearing to start, William, before we say they never found anything. Red, I proudly served in Iraq and Afganistan one tour each. Enough about your nephew.

          • Alan Grayson has asked Nancy Pelosi if he can be on the Select Committee on Benghazi.

            Now, I’m really looking forward to it. He’ll make those right wing fools look even more foolish if that’s possible.

            Oh,AJ. They’ve had a number of hearings already, and if President Obama said ‘video’ at the UN and that’s your smoking gun, why didn’t that suffice?

            You got nothing.

            If you were serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, I doubt that were were able to see how insane the GOP/TP has been here at the same time unless your job was to monitor our news media.

          • Hey AJ- It’s been two years since the banghazi thing….4 killed??? Pales in comparison to all killed in Bush’s illegal wars!!! Get a life!

          • 37 republican senators now want their own investigation into Benghazi while Daryl Issa has subpoenaed Sec. Kerry to appear.

            Meanwhile, Boehner said he wants all the previousand future hearing material to be consolidated. What a joke.

            They are all using this for political purposes because there is an election coming in 2016. Too funny.

            I seem to recall how the Cheney/Bush administration resisted hearings on 9/11 and when Cheney and Bush were called to testify, it was behind closed doors with no transcript and not under oath.

            “What difference does it make?” Yeah, that’s the difference between 9/11 and Benghazi.

          • @AJ, I say when it’s done about my nephew who told you are in charge of that. I would be shocked if one his fellow marines would say that. He enlisted right after 9/11 and was taken from us on Christmas the next year. So if you are a veteran shame on you and if you’re not don’t impersonate what your not. This is exactly what is so offensive about you, you very very selectively want to choose yourself own facts and talking points apparently you didn’t get the memo it’s 2014. You are wacho fringe who is wrecking the republicans cuz you have driven us away. Every comment you make is ignorant and gets worse.

    • @AG, I remember when we were lied into invading another country. Another crazy conspiracy. And no I didn’t want another investigation, our own Congressman Mckeon chaired a committee and he says it’s done I don’t think he would do that if he thought their more. What is a question do you want answered that has not been answered?

    • @AJ, you are referring to a talking point. Buck McKeon said he and others knew in before any show. So that’s why we’re done. Luckily your one of a fringe few. Unfortunately your effect is to make being a republicans is so embarrassing for the rest of us. I don’t agree on every single thing you think, so I can’t be a republican anymore. So you drove me here truthiness

    • @AJ we see your comments, what can you say to someone who thinks the earth is flat?? It’s so crazy, everyone know that’s crazy but you apparently.

    • @AJ
      Can an attack on a consulate in Libya be both an ‘act of terror’ as the President said regardless of whether it is in protest to a controversial anti-Muslim video or from long standing hatred of the United States by extremists in the Middle East or any other reason?

      Even if it was directly related to the video, it was still an ‘act of terror’ which is defined thusly by Merriam-Webster

      ter·ror·ism
      noun \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

      : the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal

      You, like the rest of the right wing and Fox News twist, distort and exaggerate the meaning of words to advance your agendas. The Sept 11, 2012 attack on the Benghazi consulate was, indeed, an ‘act of terror’, just like the Oklahoma bombing of a federal building, the 9/11 attacks or the many ‘acts of terror’ on embassies during the Bush years which the right acts as if they didn’t exist.

      It is incredibly difficult if not impossible to have discussions with people who keep moving the goal posts and alter the definitions of words and terms as they see fit. Rep. Trey Gowdy has already confused the terms ‘extremists’ with ‘terrorists’ in misquoting from an email that was latter released showing that he is unfit to head the Select Oommittee on Benghazi. Gowdy also called it a ‘trial’ which it isn’t. He will be a laughing stock shortly. I hope Rep. Alan Grayson is on the committee to ‘school’ him and the other nutjobs.

        • So I’ll ask again Red, did you serve? Are you serving? I’d guess no and no, but until I get an answer we won’t know.

          What gives you the right to question anybody’s service? I served 12 years with multiple tours in Iraq & Afghanistan, AJ’s comment is fine by me. Unless you’ve got hard proof he is lying, you have no right to question what he has done for his country.

          • Well said Eric. Thank you. Unfortunately all you’ll get from Red is a rambling, incoherent blather.

        • @red
          AJ just repeats the Fox News talking points. They sound very familiar. Fox is broadcast to our troops in the same way propaganda is.

          Forget that the republicans cut veterans benefits whenever they can and Fox covers for them.

  74. ATTEN HUN! CAP’N LANCASTER HERE WITH YOUR STAN MUHAMMUD SENSITIVITY TRAINING UPDATE AND PROGRESS REPORT.

    LOOKS LIKE HOMOPHOBIA AND ANTI SEMITISM ARE ACCEPTIBLE VALUES FOR A LANCASTER COMMISSIONER.

    THIS HAS BEEN CAP’N LANCASTER WITH YOUR STAN MUHAMMAD SENSITIVITY TRAINING UPDATE. AT EASE!

  76. REPUBLICANS note to self. Figure out if Hillary should be beheaded for benghazi or was is she walking dead. I can’t because of the small minded few who hijacked the GOP. Until the party listens to someone other than themselves. Every conversation is about how they are such victims somehow because we have different ideas. I don’t want to be governed in my personal activities. I can’t vote for someone who tells me, send me to Washington so I can continue to vote for the Ryan budget and continue to stop OUR GOVERNMENT from working, everyday is groundhogs day. I choose to not vote crazy. I hope the primary is as entertaining as 2012, maybe Mr 999 will be back, I hope. I’m just asking, I have no evidence but is Karl Rove a pedophile, I’m saying he is. That is the only republican play book, get a new id

    • Red, what do you think of this number? 800,000 US Children missing, every year. I have a hard time accepting that number, it seems ungodly high. Yet everywhere I’m looking, I haven’t seen anything to contradict it, and believe me, I’ve been looking. 800K. That is crazy.

      Where are our children going?

      As far as Karl Rove, there is a long and sordid history of politicians being involved in that filth. So yeah, most likely he is.

      • @Eric the subject was Dr, Rove not missing children. Why would I I have to still be in the service?? 800,000 seems crazy maybe typo

        • I’m not disagreeing with you on Rove, the guy is an idiot. And unfortunately, no, not a typo. I’ve looked, believe me, I wish it was a typo. How many of these missing children end up in a dirty politician’s dungeon?

  77. Hey, Eric, Jason and red.

    Wasn’t that fun today?

    Let’s do it again, next Tuesday.

    Topic: Beyonce and Jay Z
    Discuss

    • I like Jay-Z, not his music (well, a few songs), but any man that can land Beyonce and make multi-millions from where he started. He also has done a great job of providing opportunities to a lot of young men who may not have had the chance to succeed in any fashion otherwise. This is not unique to Jay-Z himself though, as similar endeavors were undertaken by RZA (Wu-Tang!) and Dr. Dre.

    • @William, I like their music, respect them for there family and business accomplishments. Nice to know the have the same problems we all do, a sister that wants to beat her brother in law. Rich and powerful are the same as us.

    • @William, if I was Eric/Jason, I’d say “it’s funny”… I wanted to talk about about BRAINGHAZI today, please

      • @red
        Did you notice that Eric didn’t get the joke and talked about the singers?

        I don’t think I could recognize a song by either of the entertainers. However, they were on every news channel for an incident in an elevator for several days.

        I could have selected ‘Donald Sterling, his wife and girlfiiend’ just as easily for the topic.

        How come ‘reality has a liberal bias’ and ‘there are no comedians on the right’?

        Actually, I thought of an aswer to both those questions. People who think that government should be faith’based, of course, aren’t related to relaity and they are mostly on the right. They are praying for rain in drought-stricken Texas.

        There are people on the right such as Dennis Miller who ‘tell jokes’ but are not really comedians. A 5 year old can tell a joke…..if you are patient to sit through it. But, he’s no comedian.

        • Bill has 99 problems, but clearly, politicking on the internet is not one of them.

          • Eric, you can’t connect 2 dots to make a line or a point.

            It’s a multidimensional world and you live in a 1-dimentional one.

            You can’t ‘get’ a joke.

            You think The Onion is a real news website.

            You must be very frustrated.

            And, you’re annoying.

          • So Bill, you referenced a Monty Python movie as being relevant to a current situation, and it was acceptable. I referenced an article from The Onion as being relevant to a current situation, and suddenly I must believe The Onion is an actual news site?

            I never said it was news, I even said that I’ve known its satire for a long time. Yet you disregarded those comments, likely cause they don’t support your argument. You know Monty Python is a movie, don’t you Bill?

          • @Eric

            If people assume that you think that the Onion is a real news source, they may have gotten that from reading your many other comments.

            Please forgive us.

          • It wasn’t people, Bill. It was you, entirely you. And Red, who jumped on without doing her own reading. Unfortunately, reading isn’t the problem. Its the lack of ability to comprehend what you are reading.

            That and the set of blue blinders in front of your eyes.

          • @Eric; you gave a link to the onion and I mentioned it. Your sensative maybe you can’t handle it. Your so emotional. Yes Eric I call b.s. on you and your ridiculous tactics.

          • No Red, Bill mentioned it, you jumped on his bandwagon. Rewriting history doesn’t change how the events actually went down.

        • @William, Eric/Jason are clueless on so many levels. Seems like a republican but can’t admit it. I was on the streets to fight for the rights we have now, I will not go back. Remember November 2nd, 2012, when president Romney was elected president opps that didn’t happen. President Obama won because we the people support him. People feel better about themselves when other people act by reality t.v.

        • @William, reality what’s that they don’t get it. They have nothing new to offer. They keep trying to dismiss my comments, what should really be scary to them is I’m ex republican widow with grandkids. The only bandwagon I’m on is my own. That’s why I don’t vote republican anymore, some have gone to far for me.

          • @red
            I was a fierce supporter of Hillary Clinton in 2008 and voted for her in our primary. I was very critical of President Obama his first year. Not because of his birth certificate or that Kenyan/Muslim nonsense but because he seemed so laid back compared to how aggressive Hillary is. And, the Oprah rah rah stuff didn’t appeal to me. She was all for Barack Obama in 2008 and then….nothing after that. She coulda helped in the 2010 mid-terms but where was she and Caroline Kennedy. I was ticked at both of them and their momentary support for the Democrats.

            BUT, after a year of seeing the ACA passed and Chrysler and GM recovering, the job losses slowing then reversing and noticing just how the GOP was fighting every single thing, even bills they proposed and supported up until President Obama supported them. Then, they would turn around and vote ‘No’ or filibuster in the Senate in unprecedented numbers.

            I used to post on the Huffington Post back then and I kept writing that the republicans were no longer the ‘loyal opposition’ as in previous times but had gone stark raving mad. That was in 2009. They have since proven me correct, especially when the tea party took over the GOP promising ‘jobs, jobs, jobs’ in the 2010 mid-terms. Once they won the House majority, in January 2011 it was ‘defund NPR and Planned Parenthood’ not jobs and it’s still not jobs.

            They’ve fought Obamacare tooth and nail and still promise to repeal it if and when they can. See Tony Strickland and possibly Steve Knight. The Georgia governor(R) wouldn’t allow Medicaid expansion which resulted in hospitals closing in rural areas putting Georgians at serious risk while they pretend to care about the 4 Americans killed in Benghazi who knowingly put themselves in harm’s way. Most of the Planned Parenthood clinics have closed in Texas causing poor women to cross over into Mexico for abortions and lose other health care access.

            Republican Gov. Brownback in Kansas, where Starwoods went, cut taxes so severely that the state is in a debt crisis now. But, he blames President Obama like a real slimeball even though other states are recovering much better. Even California after Arnold and Bush left a big fat mess for Governor Brown. Of course, republicans now blame Jerry Brown for everything. That’s what they do.

            They are even crazier now and they’ve had Fox News whipping them into a frenzy 24/7/365 as well. They stood by that idiot Bundy in Nevada until he proved to be, well, an idiot. They’ve done that with Ted Nugent, that dumb Miss California runner up, Carrie Prejean that Fox News embraced for 15 minutes, another idiot, Christine ‘I’m not a witch’ McDonnell, another idiot, Sharron Angle who ran against Harry Reid, Todd ‘legitimate rape’ Akins, and so on. The nuts were taking over and they’ve cost the GOP the Senate in 2010 with their worthless and nutty candidates.

            Then the republicans have the unbelievable nerve to praise Chris Christie, that big, fat obnoxious loudmouth bully, who is going down fast, for his ‘straight talk’ while they are outraged if Barack, Nancy or Harry says the most benign criticism of them. They, like Rex Parris, are thin-skinned bullies.

            But, Eric and Jason think both parties are the same.

            Which party wants to>

            Increase the minimum wage.

            Increase health care coverage/insurance for all Americans.

            Keep Medicare and Social Security viable.

            Make pay equal for women and men.

            Protect a woman’s right to her reproductive health care choices.

            Protect the environment.

            Promote alternate and renewal energy.

            Increase voter turnout and ease of access to voting.

            Do something about the increasing wealth gap.

            Increase funding for veteran’s health care.

            Increase funding for security at American embassies and consulates, say, like the one in Benghazi.

            Engage in wars as the last resort.

            Supports unions.

            Supports marriage equality and fought for the end of DADT.

            and which party opposes all of the above and much more?

            It’s pointless to debate Eric and Jason and the like minded people of that ilk that are too embarrassed to say they are republicans and pretend they are some kind of independents.

            I have been a liberal, progressive Democrat all my life but I’ve voted for repubicans or 3rd party candidates in the past. But, now, it’s too important to let the GOP/TP have any say in our government any longer. They’ve abused the privilege of being a public servant when they only want to serve the Koch brothers or themselves and shut down the government to get their way. That they’ve made a concerted effort to suppress voting in the various red states should be a disqualifier as a politcal party. It’s not just photo IDs. It’s limiting hours and days, moving locations to make it more difficult for certain voters, Steve Knight opposed funding for polling places on college campuses, and other efforts targeted mainly at Democratic voters such as minorities, the elderly, disabled, students and younger voters, etc.

            Steve Knight needs to be called out on that. But, of course, his base will turn a blind ‘ear’. You know how stupid they are. If the right wingers in the Antelope Valley had their taxes cut to zero, they’d still squeal about something. We all know people like that and the GOP/TP has gotten rid of any sane and moderate republicans so all that’s left are the crazies. And that’s all that the party attracts any more.

            It is inspiring when a republican, such as yourself, acknowledges that the party has gone too far. There were times in the past when I had given up on the Democratic Party myself when they went overboard on certain issues. But, I’m old enough to have lived through many ups and downs and can see which party is on the side of the middle and working classes and which side isn’t. Sure, the Democrats take money from Wall Street too but, then again, Elizabeth Warren is on our side. The Democrats can’t unilaterally disarm while the Koch brothers buy the GOP/TP. Check out Scott ‘Koch Sucker’ Brown trying to win a senate seat in New Hamshire after losing to her in Massachusetts. What a sleazy piece of work he is. Where will he move to next after he loses in NH? Does Guam have representatives in Congress?

            Here. Look at Knight’s voting record. He’s voted ‘Nay’ on just about everything. I spent 10 minutes looking at different issues to find a ‘Yea’ vote somewhere.

            http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/71098/stephen-knight/69/executive-branch#.U3nF_D9OURw

            And, they lie as easily as they breathe. Lynn Cheney, wife of the ‘Dick’ Cheney, a war criminal, said Sunday on a Fox News show that the Clintons cleverly had Monica Lewinsky come out publicly recently to get the issue out of the way. Why she’s as crazy as her husband and their nasty daughter Liz. As though the Clintons are in direct communicaton with Monica and tell her what to do. The Cheney’s have been so wrong about everything, it must be near 100% by now.

            That’s all for now, folks.

  78. @Eric and Jason

    It’s not simply about 2 candidates from the 2 major parties.

    Do you recall the 2012 GOP conventions, especially the audiences in the room.

    They cheered executions in Texas.

    They cheered letting an uninsured person go without health care if he showed up at an ER with a serious injury.

    They booed an gay soldier who asked a question on a video monitor.

    Together with Fox News, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, the GOP has been taken over by the nuts in this country. They threatened to primary incumbant republicans who didn’t toe the line on THEIR issues.

    Is there anyone on the left who makes Democrats apologize or backtrack like Limbaugh does with republicans if they slip?

    Sen. Lindsey Graham fed Laura Logan BS about Benghazi. Then, when she interviewed some guy on CBS who said, I mean ‘lied’, about being at the consulate that night, Graham then quoted her after he gave her the talking points.

    That’s how the GOP is running nowadays. And, Fox News has been able to promote lies, distortions and misinformation so that something like 30-40% of republicans still think that there were WMDs in Iraq and President Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya. STILL!

    You may not watch Fox News, Jason, but there are a lot of people who not only watch it but swallow every last drop of BS. And, they vote the GOP. You can’t compare that to MSNBC if you don’t watch it, can you.

    Karl Rove was trying to spread lies about Hillary Clinton’s illness and fall before she testified about Benghazi. But, he got caught and had to backtrack. I’ll bet ya that eventually there will be letters to the Valley Press repeating Rove’s lies but not the backtrack, if Hillary does run in 2016.

    That’s the larger problem- Fox News, republicans fearful of getting primaried by the nutjobs in the party and lying GOP politicians and Fox News repeating and endorsing those lies. Whatever you think of Democrats, the GOP/TP is infinitely worse in every way imaginable.

    The republicans, given all their lying, counter with President Obama misspeaking when he said “57 states” in his 2008 campaign. They aren’t very smart, are they?

  79. Since both political parties are equally bad, according to Eric and Jason, I guess they’ll be sitting out the upcoming congressional election in November.

    Good!

    • Actually no. You seem to forget there are other parties out there besides the big two.

      • I mentioned the same thing, he got on my case about “Libertarians howling at the moon”. I never said I was a Libertarian, he just automatically assumed since I wasn’t trumpeting the other two than I must be. Don’t give into him Jason, he wants you to label yourself so he knows how to start attacking.

        No Bill, I’ll participate. I’ve actually got a primary to vote in next month.

        • @Eric please vote, but when you get your facts from the onion, good luck. Ron and rand Paul are not true libertarians, they our opportunris, who just raise money. Call Steve Knight and tell him 6614005207 and see if that point of view is for you.

          • Steve Knight won’t accept my calls. He went to shake my hand at an event a few years back and wound up with an earful. Fun time.

        • Well, Eric. How do you decide who to vote for if both sides are equally bad? Flip a coin?

          Or, you’ll have to make a distinction between the 2 parties which inherently means that they aren’t the same.

          I love how you think you have to ‘protect’ Jason from me. Too funny. The ‘mommie gene’ at work.

          • Not protecting him, he seems more than capable. Simply trying to save him some time. Furthermore, its not different than Red and you jumping on the other’s bandwagon.

            I believe I’ve explained this several times, not sure if you were able to read it though. I vet, I ask questions, I look at the records. I also vote for independent parties here and there. I vote on conscience and facts, not party line. You may not notice, because you don’t look for it, but there is generally more than two candidates in a race.

          • Protect me from you? Thats hilarious. Dont need to be protected from someone who condemns an act by one party while condoning the same act from the opposite party while trying to act superior because they believe different than me. Keep your head in the sand and continue to be part of the problem.

      • @Jason, did u check out the facts about government shutdown? I know what I have done for this country. It has to do with where your point of view comes from, the folks I know in your situation don’t vote for Grumpy Old People so please explain so I can understand

        • Yes I did, there have been 12 in history. 9 of them occurred during Reagan and Bush Sr, all with a Democrat controlled House.

          My POV is that Im tired of political parties who would rather drag this country down than work together to save it.

          • @Jason
            I don’t like a political party dragging the country down either.

            But, which party is doing it now?

            Immigration reform? Boehner ain’t going to do anything.

            Have you missed all the obstruction and repeated (50+) failed attempts by the GOP to repeal the ACA?

            Is raising the minimum wage to $10.10 ‘dragging the country down’?

            Is creating a way to provide more health care insurance for Americans ‘dragging the country down’? SMH

            If all you want to do, Jason, is complain about both sides and vote for a candidate from a party that won’t win or be ineffective if he/she does, do you really expect to be taken seriously? If so, how are you helping the problems for which you complain about? You might as well ‘howl at the moon’. Or, you can step back and take a longer view.

            BTW, Jason. I’m retired but until I did, I was working 3 12 hour shifts in Burbank and 2 10 hour shifts in Palmdale. Impressed? Me too.

          • @Red, you misunderstood my comment. I am not ALLOWED to have contact with Steve Knight. He is a coward. He didn’t like what I had to say last time.

          • @Eric; triernment downloadwn was not caused by a brancI’dhe republicans don’t control, it was caused by a single show boat senator from Texas, the Cuban, Canadian who wanted to raise alot of cash. That’s why object he is another Sarah Palin short on facts but strong in making $$. I am tired of being Used by entertainers. If u do care help the GOP they’re on the verge of being a regional party. Mckeon is gone, McCarthy is next. I would vote for a different party if there was a good candidate. As for now I vote for the democrats because they better represent my values and the policies I support like health care, minimum wage, women’s rights, climate change. It seems people don’t say they’re republican they’re embarrassed.

          • @Eric ,why would I still be serving?Good for you on the Steve Knight he’s terrible ex load so

      • @Jason
        Good luck with that.

        I voted for a third party candidate in the 90s. He did pretty good for a 3rd party. He probably helped Clinton win his first term.

        But, look at how Ralph Nader screwed up the 2000 presidential election and we got the ‘village idiot’ and his master, the ‘Dick’ Cheney.

        Since then, I’ve concluded that a 3rd party candidate, if elected, would have little support and a lot of opposition making him/her almost totally ineffective.

        Look at President Obama and the obstruction and non-cooperation from the GOP. And, he is a member of the majority party in the country. Do you really think that your 3rd party president will get anything done? He/she will have both parties against him/her.

        The Democrats aren’t perfect but to think they are the same as the GOP is ridiculous. Bush inherited a big surplus left by a DEMOCRAT and left a big mess and 2 wars for another DEMOCRAT to clean up.

        No more republicans unless we want to repeat the above. They’ll do it again.

        Consider that if you vote for a 3rd party candidate, you might help put another republican in office. Think about the bigger picture and be realistic.

        • If you say so. As long as it takes votes away from both parties Im happy. Neither party will work with each other, so why continue to vote the same people in year after year? And yes both parties are the same despite your insistence they arent. And part of the mess Bush left us with was caused by actions before he was President. But hey Im sure as Governor Bush was pushing for people who couldnt afford it to get home lains they could never pay.

          • @Jason
            Bush inherited a surplus and ‘peace and prosperity’ and you forgot that???

            Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld and the rest were itching to invade Iraq the minute they took office and you think both parties are the same.

            Cheney/Bush cut taxes (Remember that $300 check he sent you? Did you get rich off that?) while waging 2 wars. Do you think Al Gore would have done the same?

            We are still paying off that war and a Harvard study states that it may cost a trillion ($1,000,000,000) dollars more to care for the veterans from those wars for their lifetimes. Are you willing to pay more taxes to fund that? If not, then who? The GOP wants to cut taxes on the top 1% and corporations, so that leaves you and me to pay for that. You are going to have to work more than 50 hours then. But, what the heck. You’re voting to take votes away from the 2 parties and you’ll be happy. Will you be happy with working harder and longer for the same money? There is a difference.

            There is a difference. If nothing else, at least start to notice that.

          • Did you forget that the cause of the financial crisis in this country had its roots in decisions made before Bush became President?

            Did you forget that “surplus” was a bubble waiting to pop and it finally did?

            Im going to pay more taxes regardless. Im a single male with zero dependents. The taxes I pay each week is more than some people make in two weeks or a month. I already work work harder and longer for the same money, so no there is no difference

          • The ‘bubble’ really took off when Bush was elected. Don’t you remember the housing bubble with people in Florida flipping houses and condos during his first term, while Americans were maxing out their credit cards, taking out home equity loans to buy RVs and granite counter tops, had zero savings, jobs being outsourced thanks to folks like Mitt Romney and so on.

            If you didn’t think a crash was coming back then, you weren’t paying attention. Americans thought they were rich cause the president and both houses of Congress were in office from 2000 to 2008 and spent like they were.

            Well, Jason, exactly what was the Cheney/Bush team responsible for for those 8 years. It you are blaming the 2008 crash on events preceding Bush 8 years earlier, who do you hold responsible for what President Obama inherited? Carter?

            The real problem was Reagan. When he cut the top tax rates from 70% to below 30%, if simply wasn’t enough for the 1%. That’s when the ‘greed monster’ took over this country.

            Are you not aware that the wealth of the rich is off the chart while wages have remained fairly stagnent since Reagan? Why is that?

            The stock market crashed in 1987 and 2008, both under republican presidents.

            In fact, over the last 50-60 years, there have been about twice as many recessions under republican presidents as Democratic presidents. It’s not just a ‘one off’ thing that happens here or there. It’s a definite pattern.

            But, so what? Like I said, I’m fairly comfortable now because I saw a crash coming about 10 years ago and prepared for it.

            If you don’t think there’s a difference between the 2 parties, good luck. You’ll get what you get if you leave it to others.

            If the Democrats have a fundamental flaw, it’s that they don’t give the republicans a good taste of their own medicine. But, they aren’t built that way, I guess.

          • Funny that you bring up Carter because his signing the CRA, which was rewritten by Clinton played a large role in the financial crisis this country is still in. So yes part of it can be attributed to Carter. These actions along with others along the way caused the meltdown. Several people take the blame for it. It all came to a head under Bush. That bubble started with decisions long before Bush.

          • So, Jason. Did you vote for Bush TWICE? You are defending his feckless administration.

            What part did Reagan play in the problems we currently have? I mean, you’re blaming Carter as though the Reagan years didn’t happen.

            Does President Obama get the same pass you’ve given Bush?

    • @William are Eric and Jason the same person?? Call Steve Knight@ 6614005207, WOW he is nuts but call him

      • @red. Well, they sound like the same person in the same way they think both parties are the same.

        That’s the ‘reptilian brain’ at work, i.e., everything is like everything else. No, wait. “Everything IS everything else”.

        We’ll see how well Eric can distinguish between the 2 parties when he goes to vote.

        Increase the minimum wage?

        Cut taxes on the top 1% while wages have remained fairly stagnant since Reagan and because of Reagan? You heard me.

        Protect Social Security?

        Accept man-caused climate change?

        Keystone oil export pipeline?

        Earth is 6,000 years old?

        Trickle down? (It didn’t work)

        Votersuppressionvotersuppressionvotersuppressionvotersuppresion……..

        And, so on. Yeah, there’s no difference. No difference at all.

        I correctly predicted there would be a catastrophic economic collapse back during Bush’s first term and, fortunately, I managed my finances accordingly. So, I’m retired but living fairly comfortably. Am I always complaining about the ‘guvmint’ like Eric and Jason? Not really? I just like to address the nuts on the right on their fallacies.

        Eric and Jason will suffer from the Reagan, Bush, Bush messes a lot longer than I will. We are all still suffering from their policies, well, except for Mitt Romney and the others in the 1%, but that was by design.

        President Obama has done pretty good considering the foot-dragging, knuckle-dragging republicans in Congress, such as our own ‘Buck’. The stock market keeps hitting new highs, inflation is under control, unemployment is 6.3%, the ACA has enrolled 8 million Americans and the health insurance executives told the nutjob republicans in Congress that roughly 80-90% have paid debunking the GOP myth that they weren’t paying yet at that high percentage. The GOP got punked, AGAIN! They thought the executives were going to play along.

        There is no there ‘there’ with Benghazi. Rep. Trey Gowdy has already misrepresented an email in an effort to create a scandal. But, when the actual email was released, he had distorted it. And, he’s leading the select committee on their ‘witch hunt’. Hint: there are no witches. The GOP and Faux News will push the ‘scandal’ anyway with false information and won’t correct it when it’s debunked. That’s what they do.

        Now, Eric will reply, derailing the discussion to some ‘factoid’ cause he is so myopic, he can’t see the bigger picture and has no historical memory.

        • So, as long as you have that money in your pocket, who cares what we are dealing with elsewhere. You have multiple times ignored the facts regarding drone strikes in other countries, makes me believe you don’t care. They are in another country, doesn’t matter anyway.

          As far as Bush 2, he can go to the pit. I’ve got blood on my hands. Was it for the greater good of the country, for Haliburton’s profits, or was it so the Afghani’s could corner the heroin market? Not sure, but I know that what I was asked to do over there wasn’t in the best interest of my COUNTRYMEN. Yeah, I’m angry. I’ve got a constant ache in my shoulder that won’t go away, a head full of dreams I wouldn’t wish on anyone. The worst part, even after there was a change in presidency, it was SSDD for the rest of the tour and the following one.

          I saw very little difference in the policies when we were out there enforcing their “foreign policy” with the barrel of a rifle.

        • @William, exactly. It’s the GOP way, distract, say a crazy fact off subject and then argues about something totally off topic, the spin zone. I spoke to Steve Knight he said he will vote to repeal healthcare but he doesn’t believe it will be. I gave you his cell.

    • About 3rd party voting: Do you think (at least on a presidential level) that including a 3rd candidate on national debates would help. I’m afraid some voters base their vote entirely on these debates. What if there is narrow minded folks who literally assume the is only 2 candidates? Why not have a 3rd candidate in the debate!? Would it diffuse the taboo on 3rd party voting?

      • It would be nice to see a third party candidate included but big money on both sides wont allow it. They know and understand how many people vote based on the debates and they dont want someome they cant control involved.

        • @Jason
          How do you think it would work with a president from a third party and the 2 other parties opposing him/her? He/she would likely have won with less than 50%, say 35% and would have 65% of the members of Congress opposing. Forget nominating cabinet members or judges, etc.

      • Yes. I think the debates with 3, 4 or more candidates running from the various parties would be good, maybe*. It would force the 2 candidates from the major parties to speak to more varied opinion rather than merely the 2 platforms.

        *However, the ‘maybe’. When Ross Perot ran in 1992 and was included in the debates and siphoned off votes from Clinton and Bush 41, the republicans, true to form, maintained that President Clinton won with less than 50% of the votes. In their pea brains, that made his presidency illegitimate, you’ll recall. They then worked on impeaching him from the get go just like the current crop of GOP clowns have wanted to do with President Obama, again from the start.

        That President Bush 43 won with less popular votes than Al Gore doesn’t create a ‘conflict’ in their little brains regarding hypocrisy.

        While the inclusion is good, a 3rd party candidate wouldn’t survive if the GOP has anything to say about it.

        So, there’s that. It amazes me that proponents of more than 2 parties never appear to think things through if they got their wish. There are downsides to more than 2 parties as much as we are disappointed with the 2 we’ve got. Look at how the voters vote for divided government such as in the Congress or a Congress of one party and a President from another. A viable 3rd party would likely make things worse, in my opinion. More squabbling more of the time and nothing would get done. Y’know, just like now only more so.

  80. A large, well-known local real estate office has been advertising it’s new relationship with Berkshire Hathaway (can you say Warren Buffet?). In today’s internet news is the following about Mr. Buffet. Is the local real estate office aware of this, and if so, do they support this? Just saying..(I know it is from Fox News, but I’m sure it can be found elsewhere unless you search only liberal websites.)
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/13/warren-buffet-donates-12-billion-to-abortion-groups/

    • Warren Buffet, you, everyone else, should leave the debate about abortion to whom it matters. The parents of the child.

      • Eric: You say to whom it matters? Doesn’t it matter to the child? Any support for Warren Buffet is putting money in his pocket so he can continue to contribute to the killing of innocent children.

        • @Local Real Estate supports abortion.

          In the 1990s, soldiers in the war in Bosnia from one side would raid villages of the other side and rape the women.

          The women were kept prisoners and forced to carry the pregnancies to term against their wills JUST LIKE YOU WANT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TO DO HERE.

          What’s the difference? In both cases, woman are forced to carry their pregnancies against their will regardless of the circumstances.

          I guess those barbaric soldiers were PRO-LIFE JUST LIKE YOU.

          • I get your point, but consensual and rape are pretty different. Pro choice? Sure, but you’re really stretching that comparison.

          • The point is forcing a woman, against her will, to carry an unwanted pregnancy to tem regardless of how it happened, rape, incest, birth defects, risk to the mother’s liefe, failed birth control methods, impaired judgement, etc.

            I doubt that the number of women that deliberately get pregnant in order to have an abotion is very small. There’s no intent if we want talk criminality.

            That’s a ‘Cruel and Unusual Punishment’ for the woman.

            Whether it’s the government forcing it or an enemy soldier doesn’t make a heck of a lot difference to the woman.

            And why should ‘Local Real Estate supports abortion’ have a greater say in the matter than the woman herself? That’s offensive in our country, especially if it’s a faith-based decision on his/her part.

        • @real estate, that was uncalled for. He donates to women health care which is allowing a women and her doctor to make her treatment plan. Why do you feel that you have the right to tell others what to do, if don’t want a procedure don’t. You have no idea what situation people are in. It’s legal so get over it.

          • Exactly, red

            The bottome line, that always gets lost in the discussion, is ‘if you don’t like abortions, don’t have one’. The pro-life people can’t get or remember that.

            Simple as that.

        • @Warren Buffett hater, thank you for the info, I will only us them because I support women. If you aren’t my husband has or my doctor, I appreciate you not trying to discuss and legislative my personal life. Do you feel that the women in your in life in are incapable of making a good choice? If u don’t trust me with a choice maybe you shouldn’t trust with a baby? Just asking

  81. What is the deal with LTEs in AVPress? I am new here and astonished at what gets published there, what are to me repetitions of lies from Fox News. Plus, I have sent them letters that are reasonable, and point out things that President Obama is doing that are great accomplishments and those letters do not run. Instead they publish things like the one this morning saying:

    “What President Barack Obama gives away with the stroke of a pen can only be won back with the barrel of a gun.” signed by a person in Lancaster who has about ten letters a month published with similar sentiment.

    To me this is treason. This is fomenting hate and violence against the American government AND against the President, which used to be illegal. I get it that there are some radical right wing people here in the AV, I’m not a liberal, I’m pretty centrist.

    I don’t get why the local daily paper wants to encourage the brain-drain mentality of Fox News and even appears to be encouraging violence against the President.

    Maybe some people who have lived here longer than I have (1 year) can explain to me the history of how the letters in that paper got to be what they are today. And do other people have the experience I am having, where when you send them a reasoned letter saying something positive about the President of the United States, they ignore it, but they seem willing to publish numerous letters encouraging people to take up arms against the government.

    • Just like the repetition of lies from MSNBC? The same things happened when Bush was President yet the left had no problem with it but now that its happening to their party is a huge problem. Or do people forget all the effigies of Bush in several different variations being burned? Or the signs comparing him to Hitler? Once again another show of hypocrisy. Its hard to condemn an act when the same act has been condoned based on party lines.

      • @Simple-minded

        THE difference is that the GOP/TP leadershjip is part of the problem . There are radicals on both sides but the GOP has been taken over by the tea party nuts like the ones that gathered at the Bundy ranch.

        Fox News, your go to source, jumped on that bandwagen till it ran off the road, like everything does for the GOP.

        They are losers. Do you want to be part of that?

        Lancaster is an example of what things look like when republicans rule; lowered bond rating, “In God We Trust”, businesses closing while Rex & Co. get richer, etc.

        I’m going to write another comment about the economic meltdown in Kansas run by republicans. Meanwhile, California is recovering from the messes Arnold and W left us. Or have you forgotten?

        Right wingers have selective short memories.

        • The leadership on both sides is the problem.

          Actually I dont go to Fox, MSNBC etc because they are full of ##$% and run whatever agenda their side wants them too.

          Citites being run into the ground isnt strictly a Republican dominated thing but I guess youve got selective memory about cities such as Stockton, Detroit, Oakland etc.

          You bring up businesses closing in Lancaster while ignoring the businesses leaving the state, which last I checked isnt ran by a Republican.

          Funny how youre on the left forgetting/ignoring all that while trying to call me out as a right winger, which Im not.

          • We are having the same experience I see. Your arguing against the blue wall. I provided facts and he promptly refused to engage in the discussion. Bill only believes in two sides. His, and the wrong one.

          • @Jason
            Google ‘Kansas meltdown’.

            Republican governor, Brownback, cut taxes on the rich and now it has a huge deficit. Wisconsin’s republican governor has done the same and it lags behind in job creation.

            Meanwhile. California and Minnesota are recovering fairly well under Democratic governors. Of course, Brownback is blaming President Obama for his state’s woes but other states are doing much better under President Obama’s watch.

            Cattlemen and farmers in west Texas are suffering due to the drought while oil companies are buying the access to water rights for fracking, under republican Rick Perry.

            Jason, if you can’t see the difference in which party runs things, may God help you. The Dems aren’t perfect and they have to deal with stubborn, backward republicans whose policies have not only failed but caused immeasurable damage to this country starting with Reagan and continues to this minute. Republican candidate for the House, Strickland, wants to repeal Obamacare. That should disqualify him right out of the gate.

          • So Google something Im not denying happened? Like I said, Cities and States being ran into the ground are strictly a Republican thing, but continue to ignore that.

            And California is recovering nicely? The state has the 4th highest unemployment rate in the country and major businesses are leaving the state leaving more people unemployed and thats recovering?

            Both sides have policies that have hurt this country but continue only blaming one side. Both parties are the reason this country is in the state it is.

          • @Eric
            Can you get that when one side is obstructing and opposing everything that the other other side proposes, EVEN THINGS THAT THEY THEMSELVES FORMERLY SUPPORTED, that the efforts of the other side aren’t going to as effective as if they cooperated.

            The GOP leaders have said they won’t ‘compromise’ over and over again. And, you think that makes them the same as Democrats. Amazing.

            As for businesses leaving California for places like Texas and Kansas (Starwoods), it may benefit the CEOs of those companies, but do you really want California to look like either of those 2 states in order to keep business here? California will create other jobs. Those lost jobs such as Starwoods weren’t high paying jobs anyway, if that’s your issue.

            Healthcare is creating a lot of new jobs paying fairly well and California’s version of Obamacare is working.

            I suggest that the pattern of red states poaching companies from the liberal blue states which lead in developing companies, is a republican policy that drags down the country. It doesn’t create net jobs for the country. It’s just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Can you get that?

            Why aren’t you and Jason hauling you and your stuff to one of those states? Planned Parenthood has had to shut down nearly all their clinics in Texas because of the foolish Rs which will have adverse effects for many women in addition to losing those jobs. Brilliant.

            If the minimum wage was raised nationwide, it would create a level playing field so that those red states couldn’t offer low wages like China or Mexico. Is that a way to run a country, into a downward spiral of low wages, low benefits, few regulations?

            You must have heard about some red states refusing to expand Medicaid, putting lives at risk, while Jason and the ArgoNOTS fuss over 4 Americans lost in a tragedy in Libya. It’s republican governors and legislators doing that. People will die because of their policies.

            There is a difference in the 2 parties.

      • I think it’s more than partisan left and right. Fox, Washington Times and AVPress misinformation is anti-American. Never in the entire Bush administration did I hear any progressive political commenter advocate for violence against him. NEVER did the left pursue Intelligence in a war torn region the way the Benghazi hearings are.

        There is a definite Anti-American message behind what they are doing. I am outright scared by it. They are very professionally and ubiquitously feeding false information.

        NOT just a left wing or right wing perspective

        BUT LIES, total misinformation that damages national security. Why do we need to know intelligence from Benghazi? That’s insane. Why is it okay to ignore US Law and threaten the President with violence?

        Something is wrong here and it goes way beyond partisan differences, the forces controlling the right wing message are unidentifiable, we really don’t even know who is doing it. Who is giving Roger Ailes his daily talking points for Fox? They repeat and repeat lies in the form of “patriotism” and I see intelligent people believing them I am really really concerned.

        MSNBC writers base articles on Fact. FOX bimboes read a prompter through glossy lips in mini dresses. Does anyone remember Tokyo Rose?

        • Bush, as much a criminal and traitor to the country as those who came before and after him, had his DOJ working to justify how to torture foreign “terrorists” legally. Wrong.

          Obama, however, is having his DOJ do end runs around Constitutional rights, and is having his DOJ working on memo’s that justify the use of lethal force against Americans.

          I heard plenty of calls for violence against Bush, same as Obama. Only an idiot would call for armed insurrection when our country is this fractured. The ability to take it apart is there, the ability to put it back together is not. The only change that can be done in an acceptable manner is through voting, and unfortunately, thanks to a mixture of deceptive government and sensationalist media, that is fast slipping away.

          Princeton released a paper on the polls being fixed since the Reagan administration, funny that it has been so buried by ALL of the big media. All puppets, with very few masters pulling the strings. George Soros and the Koch brothers are two of the biggest problems in the United States right now.

        • If you dont think the same thing happened during Bush’s administration, I dont know what to say. Burning effigies of Bush isnt advocating violence against him?

          If you dont understand the need to see what happened in Benghazi and the adminsitrations need to lie about it, I dont know what to say. People want to know why their calls for help werent answered and why the cause was lied about, especially since everyone knew right away it was a lie.

          And MSNBC writers base articles on facts? A majority of their shows are opinion and hosts have been caught in several lies. Racheal Maddow has been caught in several lies. Al Sharpton is the king of race baiting and lies.

          • Al Sharpton owes more in back taxes than Cliven Bundy. Didn’t see the BLM at his propery.

          • @Eric what kind of taxes? Clivin Bundy didn’t owe back taxes. Both owe both need to pay. Clivin Bundy is a.welfare cowboy now the his posse won’t leave and how they do afford to stay? Government assistance. Bundy is a racist nut, pay your bills.

    • @KL there’s no real reason. By reading the a.v. press your not getting the full picture, those are the.Grumpy Old People who have lots of time and very opinionated. It’s embarrassing to live where people broadcast their ignorance so loud. Its very unpatriotic and inappropriate. They will be embarrassed later

      • MSNBC writers do their own research Fox is bimbos reading tele-prompters. I think AV press breaks 18 US Code 871 daily, a law that passed after JFK was shot. When that law passed, the whole country was in agreement, that under no circumstances was it okay to threaten the president, in print or anywhere. In AV Press letters they threaten the president every other day and I’m sickened by it. Earlier, I meant to say they do their own research on MSNBC. It’s obvious on FOX that they are not thinking on their feet, they are reading. Reading an Anti-American script produced by someone unknown. I think it’s espionage in a very insidious way as the message they put out is destroying the country.

        • @KL
          I used to watch Fox News everyday for years to see what they were up to and also MSNBC to find out ‘what happened’. The ‘unknown script’ is likely being written by Roger Ailes. I don’t know how people can prostitute themselves to work on Fox. The money must be good.

          The difference between the 2 channels is huge. Fox has become unwatchable. I just check in, now and then. Not because I like any of the cast of characters, but to be informed about what that lying, distorting and misinforming channel is putting out.

          That way, I can hear the background in many letter writers on the right.

          Today, in the Valley Press, a letter writer defended Cliven Bundy and, I love this, the Press added a correction at the end of the letter.

          The misinformation flows out of Fox like a sewer. And, they don’t care. It’s been called the ‘Fox Lie Factory’ and ‘Faux News’ for good reason. The other day, however, the Press printed a letter from a Darwin Ochs, talking about taking back the government with guns. Yeah, like he’s going to leave his keyboard. It was irresponsible to print that. I’ve written to the editor in the past about printing such letters but the Press knows its audience too well, I guess.

          • Bill, I’ve argued till I was blue in the face with the nuts spouting off armed revolution. Those guys are the real nutjobs, far off in space, and somehow thinking that killing a bunch of their fellow citizens will solve anything. That crowd is best left ignored and far in the sticks. Those guys are also very dangerous, I had one instigate a situation with me and was very fortunate to walk away with my life.

            There is a lot of danger being perpetrated through the press, and they don’t want to bear anymore responsibility for their actions than the politicians. I wish the whacks would stop calling for violence on politicians. Imprisonment, yeah, sure. But damn, there ain’t a lick of good that is going to be forced at arms point.

          • Wm, you got it, thanks. R Ailes writes Fox sound bytes and he’s no journalist, he was R Nixon’s media adviser, he’s a political operative who specializes in manipulating media. And he’s the most powerful person in the US today?

            Someone else is writing the talking points, that then go into Fox, Washington Times, Drudge, and the rest of us are in in what Ann Coulter in her column today called the NFM, non Fox-Media.

            Yes, they get paid inordinate amounts of money, even if they get low ratings. For ex. Limbaugh’s contract guarantees him $4 million a year from Clear Channel, and his Patriot program is taking over air waves, even though he’s getting Very Low Ratings.

            Someone is taking over the media with a lying right wing agenda, appealing to people’s worst instincts of hatred and bigotry to . . . brainwash them. And it’s working. William, I get the sense you get what I’m saying. Not many people get it. It’s not just republican and democrat bickering, it’s a shadowy takeover of public airwaves, AND other news sources.

          • Someone directs the sound bytes, Ailes writes them, they trickle down through right wing media, Who is the director?

  82. I swear, starting yesterday, Fox News where people go to lie, dropped its round-the-clock coverage of ‘Benghazi’ like it never happened.

    I wonder if Roger Ailes realized that the impending ‘Kangaroo witch hunt circus’ just might backfire on the GOP come November, like impeachment helped the Democrats in Congress in the 1998 mid-terms.

    It’s just hard to imagine republicans learning from their mistakes. What are the chances?

    • Maybe you want to think that Benghazi never happened, or it was too trivial to worry about…but decent people think otherwise. You BBOFs still think it was “the video”. Are you also members of the Flat Earth Society?

      • @Reb; it’s over. 3 people I was with today weren’t alive when Bengazi happened. If I want to go back I would want to know why we why we invaded Iraq. What about the American lives including my nephew who are dead cuz Bush is a liar. Get over we have a black president and move on. How is that president Romney working for you?? No more grumpy old people please.

      • @Repub

        These are the talking points Susan Rice was depending on given to her by the CIA. She wasn’t in Libya that night and neither were you or any of the chicken-hawks in the GOP.

        “The currently available information suggests….”. This was a few days after the attacks. I remember her saying words to that effect but the stupid republicans can’t understand plain English. That you are stuck on that like they are, well,…………………….

        President Obama referred to ‘these acts of terror’ the next day, September 12, 2012. I loved it when he told Romney during the second debate “Please proceed, governor” when Mitt denied that fact. He lost the election that night and also when the ‘47%’ comment was revealed. The stupid republicans think that ‘acts of terror’ is significantly different from ‘terrorist acts’. Insanity. And, then they run with it.

        “The CIA’s talking points read as follows:

        “The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US diplomatic post in Benghazi and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.

        This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.

        The investigation is on-going, and the US Government is working with Libyan authorities to bring to justice those responsible for the deaths of US citizens.”

        That is why the Benghazi ‘witch hunt’ is a farce and will be exposed as such. “Please proceed, republicans”.

        Somebody, ANYBODY, please tell me the difference between ‘acts of terror’ and ‘terrorist acts’ that is such an issue for the GOP.

        • Right, so Obama knew immediately that it was a terrorist act…but he allowed Rice to go on TV and say it was the video, and Hillary went on and on about the video. Then on Sept. 25 at the U.N., Obama changed his mind and blamed the video again. So William, is the administration inept or deceptive about the situation? Your choice. Mine is correct, but I know what yours is based on…like all the other “low information voters'”.

          • @republ
            ‘Low information voters’ originally was used to describe those on the right. Nice try turning it around.

            Surveys have shown that Fox News viewers are more UNINFORMED than people who don’t watch teevee news at all.

            So, repub. What has been the outcome of all the hearings so far? What did they find?

    • Both sides lies and both sides keep repeating the same mistakes. Acting like only one side does is the major problem with what is wrong with this country.

      • @Jason, both sides do stuff, the fact that the GOP went off when the President got elected.. They lost their minds and still haven’t found them. THEY SHUT DOWN OUR GOVERNMENT, name one time that happened. Bush, Cheney lied and my nephew is dead, when will they be held accountable.

        • Shut downs have happened multiple times. It happened quite a few times with a Democrat controlled Congress during the Reagan administration.

          • @Jason, tell of another shut down the only other time the republicans shut it down when president Clinton was in office, tell me of any other? Now you know the facts does that change your opinion

        • Both sides shutdown the government, plain and simple. Im sorry that your nephew died but guess what? The Democrats had no problem going along with what was happening at the time. And when will they be held accountable? Theyre still be dragged over the grills for it and they haven been in office for 6 years

          • @Jason, Ted Cruz shut down the government no the dems. Another republican who can’t let by go.

          • Both sides shutdown the government but hey continue to show exactly what Im talking about. You had one side who steadfastly refused to engage in any meaningful talks yet they walk away scot free while the side that actually tried to do something gets blamed.

      • Hey brother, welcome aboard. I’ve been preaching that sermon for a while below, but these two aren’t taking to it. Glad to have another like-minded, knowledgeable person around!

        • @Eric
          That’s the problem, that you 2 think both parties are the same.

          You’ve heard the expession “Can’t tell **** from Shinola”?

          If you can’t distinguish the 2 parties, that says a lot about you.

          “like-minded”??? Of course.

          “knowledgeable”?, please. You are showing that you aren’t.

          • You familiar with the term “Elitism” Bill. I catch a big whiff of it every time I read what you write. You clearly know what the correct course is for any incident, why aren’t you in charge?

            You didn’t say anything when I targeted the ‘Pubs. You started screaming bloody murder as soon as I mentioned the Dems. Another case of “my way or the highway”. You mentioned in another article that you once spoke with Mayor Ledford, I’m surprised you were able to be in a room with a Republican without incinerating.

            How can you accuse me of being without knowledge? You instantly dismissed all of my arguments because you related it to arguing with a “birther”, even when I went out of my way to provide links to sources that are friendly to your agenda.

            Red wants to know when Cheney and Bush will be held accountable for her nephews’ death (and as someone who has lost relatives to multiple wars, you have my deepest sympathy on the topic Red). I want to know when Eric Holder will be held accountable for the death of Brian Terry, when Janet Reno will be held accountable for the incidents at Ruby Ridge and Waco. I want to know who in Philadelphia will be held accountable for authorizing the entire incineration of a neighborhood (look up MOVE in the 1980s in Philadelphia).

            You want to know the answer? Never, our politicians will never be held accountable for the death and misery they have caused the American people. Regardless of their stances on the flash issues that so greatly differentiate them in Bill’s eyes, they have all laid the groundwork for the next servant to continue their stampede of American rights and freedoms. We all suffer, they get richer.

            Meanwhile, Bill champions them with one hand, and accepts his thirty silver with the other.

      • @Jason
        That’s a pretty simple-minded take. You can have it.

        “All people named ‘Jason’ are alike.”

        Yeah, that’s it.

        • How exactly is it simple minded? We keep hearing about how Bush and Cheney lied and its so bad, yet the uproar of Benghazi is false outrage because of noone liking Obama? It couldnt be the fact that the entire administration flat out lied to the public about it? How long did we hear it was a demonstration based on a YouTube video that had already been out for months? Even after that was disproven they still continued to use it. But thats OK because its the party you belong too? 4 Americans died needlessly while the administration did nothing then lied. You dont understand how some people in this country are pissed off about that?

          Funny how its ok when one side does it but when the other side does it, its a bad thing. Thats called hypocrisy and one of the biggest reasons this country is going downhill. People toeing the party and refusing to call out ALL of the idiocy regardless of party lines. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides point fingers. The cycle right now as it appears is the Democrats are at the forefront of hypocrisy and none of the party are willing to call them out on it.

          • Wow, Jason.
            You reveal too much.

            20 school kids shot to death at Sandyhook and the GOP has ‘moved on’ re: any gun legislation. 80-90% of the country wants increased background checks but the GOP stalled that.

            So, it’s really hypocritical for them to fundraise off 4 Ameicans, who ‘knowlingly’ went to a dangerous foreign location.

            But, eveything is the same to you. ****=Shinola.

          • Rolling with the 80-90% number till its worn out. Explain to me please how increased background checks would have prevented that tragedy please? Heres a hint, they wouldnt have. The shooter didnt undergo a background check because he murdered and stole those weapons. That little fact seems to be ignored by those using Sandy Hook to push for increased background checks. People want background checks to include private party or gun show purchases which, depending on the state you live in, is already a law

            Its hypocritical of them to fundraise off 4 Americans who, by the way, were serving the country and the country refused to help when they needed it the most then lied about it? Thats why people are upset and you ignore that. Because it was another bad moment for the administration in a growing number of them.

          • How many children have we killed in Yemen and Pakistan in the last three years?

            Oh, that is right, James Clapper said we don’t have the right to know that. The administration is so caught up in its own bullcrap that it was even forced to acknowledge that their drone strikes aren’t even necessarily targeting “terrorists” anymore. “Signature strikes”. Like the 16 year old son of a Muslim cleric. We used a drone to kill the cleric, and a week later we used another drone to kill his 16 year old son, not for any crime, but for the enemy he MAY have become.

            You want to complain about 20 dead children in Sandy Hook, killed at the hands of someone who was obviously a whack job. Meanwhile, you champion a President who is authorizing drone strikes that kill children, women, innocent men. If our drones were actually killing terrorists, why would they hide the numbers?

            Probably because Benghazi would be a small fry if the Mid-East ever found out how active an extermination program we run in Pakistan and Yemen.

          • @Red what does that have to do with the discussion at hand? What does it have to do with the fact that 4 americans serving the administration were abandoned then belittled by the administration?

        • @William call Steve Knight@6614005307 it’s his direct cell. I think Eric and Jason are the same thing. Left overs who can’t move on but have lots of time, no one that works has that kind of time it’s just the Grumpy Old Person disease

          • You do realize, that from everything he has written, Bill is likely a retiree, and therefore a “grumpy old person”, right?

          • Actually I work 50+ hours a week and under the age of 40. Tired of neither major political party giving two shakes about citizens and the people who support them. Perhaps if people looked across party lines instead of being blinded by them, this country might get back on the right track.

          • Eric reminds me of someone here a couple years ago with the username ‘really’. He wanted to bet on the 2012 election and he would have lost.

            They sound alike, so they must be the same person. Right, Eric and Jason.????

          • @red
            Steve Knight is as useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.

            What has he accomplished in his years in Sacramento?

          • William you can continue to go on about how both parties are different, but when it boils down to it they are one and the same. Both sides are controlled by billionaire donors, neither does what is best for this country and neither cares what we the people want.

      • You got that right, red. It’s not called ‘Faux News’ for nothing.

        Jason doesn’t watch Faux or MSNBC but he knows all about them.

        Yet, he spews Faux talking points like a pro.

        That’s rich.

  83. Dear Steve Knight, quit your Senate seat and believe in yourself and don’t expect us to pay you for a job you’re not doing so you can try to get a cusher job for us to pay you and your family for life. Quit if you believe in yourself Steve

  84. Dear republicans, I was with 3 people yesterday who weren’t alive for Bengazi. When is enough is enough? 50 and counting to repeal my healthcare and when you’re not busy obstructing everything or shutting down the government you are on vacation. No GOP will win in CA25, keep up the thinking…President Romney, Governor Whitman, Senator Carly Fiorina and what is the Attorney General’s name and my assemblyman oops there dems, we’re telling you, you’re not listening.

    • The GOP/TP are failures.

      They FAILED to repeal Obamacare.

      They FAILED to defeat President Obama in 2012.

      They’re failing to stop marriage equality.

      The Benghazi witchhunt will FAIL to produce anything more after a ~dozen hearings already. That’s why they are having a Special Committee because they’ve FAILED so far. But, they’ll make up some stuff about it and run with it.

      The local candidates to replace McKeon are either useless or nuts. The Valley Press endorsed Knight in their editorial but FAILED to list any accomplishments in Sacramento, just that he’s ‘fighting’. No results but he’s ‘fighting’. Wonderful.

      Strickland wants to repeal Obamacare. Whoopeeee! There are fools in the AV that will vote for either of these two.

      The only thing they are good at is lying. And, they are good!

      The republicans are just like Monty Python’s ‘Black Knight’.
      http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+black+knight+monty+python&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=694119AFCBD798637A63694119AFCBD798637A63

      • Steve knight endorsers the Ryan budget. Even the Pope knows how immoral the republicans are. Steve Knight is Pete Knight”s son and….everything we don’t want. He needs to quit the state Senate to run, why do we need to pay you to get a new job while I pay you already. Quit if you believe in yourself Steve

        • Yeah, Republicans are “immoral”….meanwhile Dems support gay marriage, killing the unborn, atheism, high taxes…and the list goes on.

          • @Repub.
            Yeah, but God has blessxd Democrats with intelligence, good looks and a sense of humor.

            You are still stuck in the Dark Ages when religion ruled.

        • Funny that you call out the Republicans as immoral while ignoring many Democrats. Guess its moral to run guns, take bribes, get caught with child porn, be involved in corruption etc?

        • @red
          You gotta admit that the GOP behaves like the Black Knight though.

          Knight opposed funding for CA college campuses for polling places, saying that they can’t handle the crowds. I told that to a friend and he said “I would think that colleges could handle ‘assemblages’ of people. That’s what they do.” Knight is such a piece of work but, then, look at this father.

          They named a school after the elder Knight who was anti-gay. I’m sure there are gay students there. It’s like naming a school after David Duke or a Grand Wizard where minority students go. Sickening. Both of them.

          • Here’s more on the Knight family. It sounds like some nighttime soap opera. I bet son, Steve, has some issues himself about people. We don’t want that in Congress. He has an offensive quality going for him kinda like Marco Rubio-‘unlikeability’. It’s good to see him and Parris at odds as Parris is supporting Strickland. More soap opera.

            From Wikipedia.

            “During his term in the Senate, Knight gained statewide attention in 2000 as the author of Proposition 22, a.k.a. the “Knight Initiative,” the purpose of which was to ban same-sex marriage: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” The proposition passed with 61.4% approval and 38.6% against. On March 9, 2004, Knight’s son, David Knight, who is gay, married his partner during the period when San Francisco performed same-sex marriages in defiance of state law. These marriages were later nullified by the California Supreme Court in 2004. The Court later found Proposition 22 to be unconstitutional in In re Marriage Cases (2008).”

          • Hey now I was just poking fun. Although I don’t agree with everything, I actually enjoy your commentary. Funny how you come to a conclusion that’s derogatory in nature, yet with no evidence. Isn’t that the same reason you bash people on this site? But hey, “the AV is full of them”….

          • @Geez. I apologize if you were just ‘funnin’ me. I don’t recall your previous comments so I assumed you were one of ‘them’ upset about the content of our exchanges.

            It is true that the Antelope Valley is full of RWNJs, though. Read the Letters in the Valley Press. It has gotten even more extreme.

            I just realized that in my day-to-day travels around the Valley or talking with my neighbors and friends, I rarely run into ‘them’ and would think they didn’t even exist here. BUT, THEY WALK AMONG US-the birthers, the gun nuts, the President Obama haters, the Fox News and Rush Limbaugh sheeple, and so on. ‘Chemtrails, anyone???’ Ignorance may be blissful for them but it sure is annoying for the rest of the sane world.

            It’s election season, so fasten yer seat belts, it’s gonna be a bumpy night. After night after night. ‘member how ugly it got with Rex’s hit mailers during the recent Lancaster city council election? He was appealing to the RWNJs. And, it worked. Ask Marv and Ron.

            What is so great is that they are getting the kind of city they deserve-Lancaster, CA. It wouldn’t surprise me if Lancaster, Pennsylvania changed its name so it wouldn’t be associated with the other one.

  86. check this out on big money. MayOne.US a very good idea. MayOne.us – Kickstart corruption reform, save our democracy

          • Really? You are the biggest proponent of the Establishment and authoritarianism I’ve seen…

          • @Eric
            Whatsamattayou? That was a joke and as I told you before, you have no sense of humor. You have to have jokes explained to you.

            BTW When someone uses the word ‘Establishment’ as you did, they are trapped in some ideological sinkhole. Why didn’t you write ‘The Man’, instead?

            Sheesh.

  87. Rambling ….., life here is so plastic and manufactured, manipulated and lost. 1% of the population is controlling the other 99%, your education systems destroy the natural curiosity in your children, designed to grind them up and spit back out perfectly obedient little workers, conform, comply, go to school, go to work, pay your taxes, because money is power, and they want it all they can keep on taking your freedom away, while you bicker amongst yourselves over race, sex, and whatever else the media spins to keep you divided. Your thoughts, your beliefs, you think are your own, but they have all been manipulated by society and society is manipulated by media, you believe what they want you to believe, but you think you are free. Your food is poisoned, and GMO junk, your air is full of chemtrails, aluminum, barium, and all kinds of toxins, your water is full of fluoride to make you easier to manage, they have the cures for cancer but they are hiding them from you, chemo=more poison, cancer and Aids were both created in a petri dish, Fukushima is spewing into the ocean each day, you are swimming in radiation wifi soup in your brain. Most of you, haven’t the slightest clue what I am talking about, none of this is accidental, this planet and everything on it is dying, depopulation, it has begun.

    • I liked it until you got on about the fluoride and chemtrails. We won’t live forever regardless, the human body is incredibly fragile and sensitive. But yeah, the mass is far aware of what is actually going on and how we reached the point, and as indicated below, they really don’t like it when you start on about it. Keep up the good fight sister.

    • @CaliGirl.
      You are so lucky that the fluoride and other toxins haven’t affected you one bit.

      • That was a joke, Eric. Apparently, you don’t GET jokes. It takes some intelligence and a sense of humor to put together 2 incongruous things to GET a joke and you failed.

        BTW. Did you really think that The Onion was a serious news outlet?

        • Oh, I got the joke. It was all over Facebook on Sunday. I noticed you didn’t deny my suggestion though.

          And no Bill, in all the years I’ve read The Onion, I’ve never seen anything that would make me believe it is a credible news outlet. The article I posted was of a woman standing in a grocery store implying that she knew what was better for others. Pretty common occurrence in America today, and it happens plenty of other places than a market.

          • It’s hard to tell with you if you get a joke or not.

            Your own attempts at humor are, shall we say, ‘laughable’? Yes, we can say that.

  89. I am not replying to any above. I would like to make a statement about how dirty/trashy Palmdale has become. Take a good look in the bushes along Ave S, especially between the freeway and Tierra Subida. The trash trucks from out of town release trash from uncovered trucks as they are driving. There is also a lot of trash by the freeway onramps and offramps. Take a good look at the offramps on P, north and south. Everyone needs to tie their trash in bags so it does not blow in the wind while being dumped. they also need to clean up after trash day. I think Waste Mangagement should be responsible for the pick up of trash along Ave S and in Pelona Vista Park. Take a walk there, it’s disgusting.

    • @Eric, I always watch the daily show for my news. Maybe concente more on what youthink and less about what you think someone else thinks, cuz you’re really off track.

      • @red
        You must already be well-informed to enjoy The Daily Show or it wouldn’t make much sense or be that funny. The Fox News fans love to mock The Daily Show, but The Daily Show’s viewers are better informed than Fox viewers. Several surveys have shown that.

        In addition, Kaiser Foundation did a survey that showed that of the 3 cable channels, Fox viewers were the least informed about the Affordable Care Act. Next came CNN and MSNBC viewers were the best informed of the 3. But, who has been shouting the whining the loudest for the last 4 years about the ACA? You guessed it.

        So, when I read comments here and elsewhere that are dripping with Fox News ‘talking points’, I automatically assumed they are not well informed. Is that justified? I think so.

        They love to post links to right-wing websites that are simply blogs and opinions but not documented facts or accurate quotations.

        Some day in the future, those folks will be forced to live on an island WITH EACH OTHER so the rest of us can have some peace and, above all, ‘workability’ in our governance. Until then, it’s ‘back and forth’ debunking their nonsense.

        Rex Parris is a perfect example of how corrupt the GOP is. He plays to a religious faction that doesn’t care about the city except for the ‘In God We Trust’ banner in the council chambers. He uses them and veterans and children and whatever he can get a hold of to further HIS interests above all else. Did anyone, anyone at all, think that Mitt Romney or George Bush cared about the average American? You can just imagine what Rex, Mitt, George and others say about their fellow citizens behind closed doors. We got a glimpse with Mitt’s “47%” remark to his fellow 1%ers. That was just the tip of the iceberg.

      • Really…so you get your “news” from Comedy Central. From a show that won’t deny it presents a high level of bias. On a network, that makes money via its ability to pull in viewers to sell advertising time….

        • @Eric. Did you read my comment above? You have to be smart to get The Daily Show. You have to have a background knowledge of what’s going on to appreciate The Daily Show. You wrote, I presume re: Comedy Central, ” On a network, that makes money via its ability to pull in viewers to sell advertising time….” Wow, oh, wow. All the other ‘networks’ (you meant channels) don’t feature advertizing for the very same reason. Who knew?

          Of course, TDS is biased. “And reality has a well-known liberal bias” -Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner. Jon Stewart doesn’t pretend to be ‘fair and balanced’ like some news channels do.

          Yeah. Most comedians have a bias. Does that come as news to you, Eric? Your comment that TDS “won’t deny it presents a high level of bias.” is so ridiculous. That you think a comedy show for adults should do that reveals so much about your world view. It sounds just like somthing a Fox News viewer would say.

          • Really? You have to be smart to get the Daily Show? Its not like they provide a skewered segment, then proceed to make jokes off what they just presented. No background info required. That might be why they have replays, you know, episodes covering “news” long past. How many people watch that for the first time and laugh without knowing anything about the topic? Pretty frequently.

            “Sounds just like something a Fox News viewer would say”. Sounds like a typical retort from a CNN viewer. If you get your news from the TV, regardless of the station, and you aren’t double checking your info, you are part of the problem. These channels aren’t here for the news, their here for the advertising dollars. What pulls in more viewers than partisan politics?

    • There are multiple comments from Saturday-Monday that haven’t posted yet. I think they are shutting us down Bill.

      • I was joking. I didn’t have anything to write that day so, of course, no comments of mine would show up. I don’t bother much with the crime and traffic accident stories. What’s there to discuss about a traffic accident with people who weren’t in it or at the scene and neither was I? Yet, the debates go on and on.

        • I scroll down and see multiple comments I wrote over the weekend pending moderation. Not the first time I’ve seen it before.

          And hey, we agree! Local accidents and murders aren’t the place for debates.

  91. NONE of my posts ( no matter the content or length) go to publish anymore. This one sentence statement I am about to make is probably the most important one I’ve made….. Let’s see if it gets posted.

    I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE AND ANIMALS SUFFERED, WERE SHIPPED OUT, OR DIED TONIGHT? Thanks military, medical, educational, housing, pharmecutical, transportation, entertainment complex. Always such a pleasure to know you

  92. @William – You want to honestly debate this? Free from grandstanding, peer pressure, and public perception. I’ll be more than happy to provide you an email address you can reach me at, and we can have a factual discussion. This forum is ill-suited for a contentious debate, as both of us are often replying to older comments while the newer ones await moderation. I’m sure the majority of readers here are already tired of reading BOTH of our crap. Game or no?

    • @Eric.
      You are comparing drone strikes to an all out war in Iraq and Afghanistan that lasted over a decade and cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Please. I can’t debate someone like you who makes that comparison.

      Like I said, it’s like debating a ‘birther’. No matter what evidence has been provided to them, they simply won’t accept it. They’ve already begun with no willingness to accept any evidence, despite demanding it. Then, it was predictable that they would declare it a forgery. And, they did.

      You say that both parties are the same. Not true. If you are presented with evidence that they aren’t you won’t accept it. Isn’t that correct?

    • Isn’t calling the President a warmonger ‘grandstanding’? Now, you’re projecting.

  93. The Central Valley in California is hurting, Eric, and it’s all YOUR fault.

    • How so? I’m in compliance with drought conservation – my lawn now looks like the central valley.

      • How so? Well, I’m not taking you seriously any longer.

        President Obama a ‘warmonger’???? I can’t believe you wrote that.

        That you can’t distinguish the differences between the 2 political parties that we have now is telling. It would be like debating a ‘flat earhter’ or a ‘birther’. I’ve done it and they are crazy, man, crazy.

        • There are now TWO responses to your question. If you find either unacceptable, so be it, that is your choice. The fact that you are unwilling to admit that your party has its own ills is more telling.

          • @Eric; I admits politicians are everything you say. Where we disagree is I don’t assign fault how you do. I believe that the GOP has. I notice you said game on, this is my life and my family. You never answer a question straight. I’m choosing to work to continue not vote against my own interests, I look at the options but now there’s such huge difference, I only recently got anti gop since Obama got elected, they spent all there time trying to undermine the President, that’s my opinion. Yes I am trying to remain in semi middle class. I think about the end of 2008, I’m not going back. I choose to move forward, that’s just me. I support our president whomever they are, for me that’s just the part of being respectful to this country.you can do whatever you feel is right.

          • Most people agree to the first point, I hear it on the streets all the time. As far as the assignment of blame, you are free to make your choice on that, I have. As long as you feel your making the right decision, go for it.

            You are free to support the president as well. Not criticizing him for being a Democrat, I criticize him because he, like the conga line of predecessors before him, have committed actions I feel are wrong, on ethical and constitutional grounds. To me, it is serious business when you take an oath to uphold our founding documents, and when it is constantly undermined it gets me upset.

            If you would like a straight answer Red, I’ll be more than happy to oblige. Ask one (preferably below this comment), and I promise I’ll answer as soon as possible.

  94. Breaking news, GOP front runners. Cliven Bundy or Donald sterling they are a perfect spokesman for their backward policies.

      • You do realize that The Onion is a satire website, don’t you? If not, you’ve got some serious issues. I’m truly not sure if you knew that.

        Here was another article on the same page as your link. Below is the first few sentences to give you a taste.

        “VATICAN CITY—Numerous onlookers confirmed that His Holiness Pope Francis could be seen Thursday sprinting along the Holy See’s rooftops, darting between the chimneys and marble sculptures of the apostles atop St. Peter’s Basilica and the Sistine Chapel as he attempted to chase down a suspected sinner.”

        They also had a photo of Pope Francis doing just that.

    • Hate to burst your GOP hating bubble @red but Donald Sterling is well known for his monetary support of Democrats.
      BTW….. I happen to be a woman in my late twenties, not a grumpy old man. Is that another bubble I hear bursting?

        • I know, red. Sterling is a registered republican but the right wingers don’t mention that. He gave money to some state candidates back in the 90s, so that makes him a Democrat even though he’s a registered republican.

          Does Les really think that Sterling voted for BARACK OBAMA twice?

          Sorry to burst your bubble les. Being a woman in your late 20s is no better than a grumpy old man if you are both uniformed.

      • Registered republican, full time racist bigot slumped. Do u fact check I didn’t say man I said person, u are overly emotional wow

      • @les, I didn’t say man. As a woman in your twenties and u are voting for someone who wants to give vaginal ultrasounds, I’m interested to understand your feelings towards equal pay for equal work, access to birth control, healthcare and college loans, please let me know r u through college, what high school did u graduate from? Please explain

    • Sorry to burst your bubble red, but Sterling is a Democrat and major supporter of the Democratic fundraising party…google it. But spinning seems easier so, have at it.

      • @Briscoe, les said he was a dem, I said no he’s a registered republican, gave lots $$ such as NAACP. To be clear Mr. STERLING is an ignorant moron. I have no bubbles tiny or broken, so your a republican and it somehow makes you feel better for him to be a democrat. It’s about what language he used.He’s not fit to be an owner, the NBA is no place for him. I don’t care if he makes money, what’s right is right.

  95. @les, u make my point. U obviously understand very clearly. No bigots allowed. We’re sick of your whining.

    • Yet here you are, whining about bigotry and the “evil Republicans”. At the same time, you are exercising bigotry against bigots and whiners….

      You do realize the group you are expressing such disdain for is only HALF the problem, while the Democrats are the other half.

      • @les, u make my point. U obviously understand very clearly. No bigots allowed. We’re sick of your whining.

  96. @Eric, you proved my point exactly, I’m not a nut or a slut and I’m not babbling u obviously understand perfectly what I said, here’s the gop platform, repeal obamacare, lower taxes on rich, deregulation with a side wanting very very personal issues such as my birth control, and equal pay. Why are u so.intent on taking my stuff. Does tone deaf mean anything to u? No republican can win on repealing obamacare. But I really hope they keep trying. Every day is ground hogs day with republicans and we’re so sick of your years of whining. Stop

    • Oh, I understood what you said perfectly. Unfortunately, for you, it is completely devoid of any sense. You can continue beating the drum, that one side is worse than the other, but you are completely ignoring the fact that for the past 30 YEARS, these “different” parties have been pushing us down the same road.

      Republicans aren’t opposed to Obamacare, the same way the Democrats are against immigration. Cataloged and controlled; NDAA, ACA, PATRIOT, ETC. ETC. ETC. Wake up. Hey, Princeton just published a paper not too long ago that explained, in great detail and with all those pretty scientific words, how since the Reagan administration (their starting point), through Bush 1, through Clinton, through Bush 2, through Obama, and likely into Hillary, how our voting system has been entirely COMPROMISED and CONTROLLED. It isn’t a R or D issue, its a them and us issue.

      You want to vote for actual change? Vote Libertarian, vote Green, vote Communist, vote something other than the two-headed snake slithering along on the same body. They’ve stolen your money, they’ve stolen your freedom, and yet you all sit here and continue your BS partisan politics. Open your eyes, take off your hate filled blinders, and take an actual look at what these crooks have done to your family for the last 100 years.

      • @Eric, please refrain personally attacking me. If u don’t like it here maybe move. But don’t disrespect me like that, I could be your neighbor Eric

        • @red. Eric claimed President Obama was a ‘warmonger’ a week or so ago.

          I asked how he got something so bassackwards but he never replied.

          • “April 30, 2014 at 3:25 pm”
            Pretty sure that constitutes less than a week Bill. Hey, common core will still give you credit if you can successfully explain how you reached that number!

          • @Eric

            “…or so ago.”.

            Is that all ya got, kid? I wasn’t about to go back to find it cause that wasn’t the point of my comment.

            It was that you called President Obama a ‘warmonger’ or something like that, when he’s constantly being attacked from the right for being too tentative and weak.

            When you went back to look at the date, did you notice I asked how you got that so backwards?

            Why don’t you give up with your silly libertarian nonsense. It’s 2014.

            But, I love the way you dodged the question to point out the correct date. Sheesh.

          • Drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan. Unsanctioned Special Operations (boots on ground) in both Somalia and Pakistan. Repeated threats of attacking Syria. Air campaign against Libya. We will stand with Japan against any aggression from China over disputed territories. We will not tolerate violence from North Korea…..

            Wait a second….isn’t that the Bush policy of “If your not with us, your with the terrorists”. Either our team or the wrong team? Wait a second, Obama is continuing that Republican policy?! Pretty sure Guantanamo is going to remain open indefinitely as well, considering how many Yemeni citizens we are holding there.

            My favorite, favorite though is the great one John Kerry dropped recently; “We have PROOF Russia is behind this.” Said in the same manner as Colin Powell’s infamous “We have PROOF the Iraqi’s have WMDs”.

        • Don’t misconstrue it as a personal attack, it wasn’t. It was a statement, in general, to everyone who wants to continue with the “Republican/Democrat” blame game instead of focusing on the real issues.

          • So u didn’t reply or u found were incorrect. U directed them to me so that’s why. Apparently u believe in your right to speak out but disagree and u immediately go to personal attacks. Aren’t u getting a little emotional,??

          • I did reply, you are free to scroll down below and read the response I wrote yesterday. I am not incorrect, I assigned blame all around. After all, its only fair to mention all the responsible parties.

        • You know, its funny. I found an issue that matters to me, deeply. Once I realized that it was an important issue to me, I was able to find time to attempt to tackle it. In between working full time and caring for my family. Someone always has “too much” time when they are in disagreement with you.

          • @William, notice every sentence Jason/Eric always start with “it’s funny”. How about we talk about Brainghazi

      • Eric, I understand what has happened to my family far longer than 100 years and that’s exactly why I believe so strongly as I do don’t take my inventory until you take you own.

        • Indefinite detention of American citizens, refused to be heard by the Supreme Court. Constant violation of our 4th Amendment (Philly just overturned a massive chunk of it). Two declared wars the US people really didn’t want, thousands of dead Americans who should still be alive. Repeated violation of foreign states’ sovereignty, now pushing for war because Russia does the same. 13 years hunting Al-Qaeda (CIA terrorist branch), now we are financing, arming, and training them against Syria, after we already provided them plenty in Libya. Director of Intelligence (who lied on the stand) demands Congress remove part of a bill that would’ve required them to disclose the casualties from our illegal drone strikes, and they COMPLY.

          The US government doesn’t serve the interest of the US people anymore. They serve the interests of those lining their pockets, and its been going on for a LONG time. Say whatever you can to appeal to your voting demographic, then once elected, only pay heed to those who give you money.

          Kind of hard to take inventory when the group your auditing is doing everything possible to hide the facts.

      • I don’t wanna be a libertarian, I’m nor into a.rand Paul type candidate. I don’t agree with his or his father.They don’t support keeping our of our bedroom, don’t support civil rights or raising the minimum wage.

        • I’m glad you brought the Pauls up, though you do have some mistaken info.

          Dr. Ron Paul believed that the government has no place in your bedroom. He also believes strongly in the rights of people as laid out in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, have you listened to him speak? I think you would find your in agreement with him more than you disagree. There are also several documented cases of Dr. Paul refusing to take government healthcare, and instead giving service to African-American woman for FREE.

          As far as his son Rand, Rand is unfortunately beyond trust at this point. He has clearly separated from some of his fathers more important policies, and is running the party line more and more as time progresses. Whether this is a ploy for seeking election, or a serious move, it has severely diminished his trustworthiness. At this point, I wouldn’t vote for Rand.

        • Furthermore, as far as Democrats supporting Civil Rights, I’d encourage you to read what the words that came out of Lyndon B Johnson’s mouth as he signed the document.

          • Is this the new strategy Bill? Ask a question, plug your ears, then pretend there was never an answer. There is two of them, neither of which you’ve challenged.

          • @William, Eric seems to be able a straight answer Eric are you interested in becoming a politician if not cuz you really have a natural ability. Is is is?

          • Is this the statement of President Johnson’s that you are referring to, Eric? Sounds good to me but it wasn’t clear what you were implying in your comment. Were you implying that Johnson was fully supporting Civil Rights legislation or was he not supporting it?

            “My fellow Americans:

            I am about to sign into law the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I want to take this occasion to talk to you about what that law means to every American.

            One hundred and eighty-eight years ago this week a small band of valiant men began a long struggle for freedom. They pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor not only to found a nation, but to forge an ideal of freedom—not only for political independence, but for personal liberty—not only to eliminate foreign rule, but to establish the rule of justice in the affairs of men.

            That struggle was a turning point in our history. Today in far corners of distant continents, the ideals of those American patriots still shape the struggles of men who hunger for freedom.

            This is a proud triumph. Yet those who founded our country knew that freedom would be secure only if each generation fought to renew and enlarge its meaning. From the minutemen at Concord to the soldiers in Viet-Nam, each generation has been equal to that trust.

            Americans of every race and color have died in battle to protect our freedom. Americans of every race and color have worked to build a nation of widening opportunities. Now our generation of Americans has been called on to continue the unending search for justice within our own borders.

            We believe that all men are created equal. Yet many are denied equal treatment.

            We believe that all men have certain unalienable rights. Yet many Americans do not enjoy those rights.

            We believe that all men are entitled to the blessings of liberty. Yet millions are being deprived of those blessings—not because of their own failures, but because of the color of their skin.

            The reasons are deeply imbedded in history and tradition and the nature of man. We can understand—without rancor or hatred—how this all happened.

            But it cannot continue. Our Constitution, the foundation of our Republic, forbids it. The principles of our freedom forbid it. Morality forbids it. And the law I will sign tonight forbids it.

            That law is the product of months of the most careful debate and discussion. It was proposed more than one year ago by our late and beloved President John F. Kennedy. It received the bipartisan support of more than two-thirds of the Members of both the House and the Senate. An overwhelming majority of Republicans as well as Democrats voted for it.

            It has received the thoughtful support of tens of thousands of civic and religious leaders in all parts of this Nation. And it is supported by the great majority of the American people.

            The purpose of the law is simple.

            It does not restrict the freedom of any American, so long as he respects the rights of others.

            It does not give special treatment to any citizen.

            It does say the only limit to a man’s hope for happiness, and for the future of his children, shall be his own ability.

            It does say that there are those who are equal before God shall now also be equal in the polling booths, in the classrooms, in the factories, and in hotels, restaurants, movie theaters, and other places that provide service to the public.

            I am taking steps to implement the law under my constitutional obligation to “take care that the laws are faithfully executed.”

            First, I will send to the Senate my nomination of LeRoy Collins to be Director of the Community Relations Service. Governor Collins will bring the experience of a long career of distinguished public service to the task of helping communities solve problems of human relations through reason and commonsense.

            Second, I shall appoint an advisory committee of distinguished Americans to assist Governor Collins in his assignment.

            Third, I am sending Congress a request for supplemental appropriations to pay for necessary costs of implementing the law, and asking for immediate action.

            Fourth, already today in a meeting of my Cabinet this afternoon I directed the agencies of this Government to fully discharge the new responsibilities imposed upon them by the law and to do it without delay, and to keep me personally informed of their progress.

            Fifth, I am asking appropriate officials to meet with representative groups to promote greater understanding of the law and to achieve a spirit of compliance.

            We must not approach the observance and enforcement of this law in a vengeful spirit. Its purpose is not to punish. Its purpose is not to divide, but to end divisions—divisions which have all lasted too long. Its purpose is national, not regional.

            Its purpose is to promote a more abiding commitment to freedom, a more constant pursuit of justice, and a deeper respect for human dignity.

            We will achieve these goals because most Americans are law-abiding citizens who want to do what is right.

            This is why the Civil Rights Act relies first on voluntary compliance, then on the efforts of local communities and States to secure the rights of citizens. It provides for the national authority to step in only when others cannot or will not do the job.

            This Civil Rights Act is a challenge to all of us to go to work in our communities and our States, in our homes and in our hearts, to eliminate the last vestiges of injustice in our beloved country.

            So tonight I urge every public official, every religious leader, every business and professional man, every workingman, every housewife—I urge every American—to join in this effort to bring justice and hope to all our people—and to bring peace to our land.

            My fellow citizens, we have come now to a time of testing. We must not fail.

            Let us close the springs of racial poison. Let us pray for wise and understanding hearts. Let us lay aside irrelevant differences and make our Nation whole. Let us hasten that day when our unmeasured strength and our unbounded spirit will be free to do the great works ordained for this Nation by the just and wise God who is the Father of us all.

            Thank you and good night.”

    • Whatever happened to “Keep your laws off my body” and “Hey Supreme Court…No bosses in my Bedroom”…When did birth control become such an open issue for the government to regulate?…if you are sexually active and don’t want to get pregnant than the choice is yours with birth control…so many choices at your local drug store… and if you can’t afford it that is why places like Planned Parenthood were started right!?….don’t dictate to others that they must provide it for you…that is your personal issue to deal with not the whole United States!

      • @db, news flash we are having sex with men when using birth control. So and they’re against equal for equal work.

  97. Here is every republican platform repeal obamacare, lower taxes for rich people such as themselves, against women earning equal pay and us being able to make our life decisions and deregulation. U don’t go to go to a class to learn to talk to women?? Forget it, it’s your policies stupid. Most women won’t vote against their own interests, they r smarter than that. That what scares u so bad. Jim DeMint said Obamacare would be the President’s Waterloo, either he’s a democrat or it certainly seems to be the hop Waterloo or maybe he didn’t know the story

    • What is the point you’re trying to convey? I think it was lost I that incoherent babble you just posted.

      • @les,maybe u can a classes on talking to women. It’s always your tactics to attack us as emotional or stupid. Well I’m neither. Stop being a grumpy old person. No one will win this district with hop platform.

    • Thanks, red. You really wrapped it up in a couple of short comments. Do you read the Valley Press ‘Letters to the Editor’? There are quite a lot of right wingers saying the most ignorant and inaccurate things more than ever lately.

      The Rs have alienated so many people with their antebellum mentality.

      Steve Fox got elected out this way, so maybe we can do better in the congressional race as well.

      Strickland sounds like a right winger from one of those backward ‘welfare’ states that get lots of federal $$$$s but pay back less in taxes per capita than a ‘donor’ state like California. I’m waiting for him to say something really over-the-top stupid.

      Steve Knight once supported not funding voting booths on college campuses at a town hall several years ago. That was before voter suppression really took off in the various red states. He was just doing ‘his’ part here in the Antelope Valley. What else has he done? What a guy.

      So, those 2 are out.

      Governor Jerry Brown has slowly but surely gotten California back on track after the messes Bush and Arnold left. Yet, the right wingers still holler at full volume no matter what. Once one dog starts barking in its backyard, eventually all the dogs in the neighborhood are barking. That’s what they’re like.

      • I’m not sure dying farms and companies leaving en mass counts as “back on track”, and if it does, its certainly not a rail line I want my state riding. Once again with the partisanship Bill, you are far too distracted by the initial someone has behind their name. BOTH parties are responsible, the sooner Red, you, and the rest realize that, the quicker we can get the system back to working.

        • @Eric. Go live somewhere u like, that’s what great about America u can leave, so take some personal responsibility and make yourself happy please

          • I do live somewhere I like. The State of California, a state I love, a state that is a part of the United States Of America, a country I love. I like it here, I don’t like the government. Something I’m well within my rights to do, and well within my rights to be vocal about. If you don’t like it, there is a certain proximity you can stay at to avoid hearing me, and you could always avoid reading my comments.

          • @Eric, so I should stop and u can go on. Don’t dog me out cuz I don’t agree with u. Can u use facts instead of your emotional diatribe.

          • Facts? Take Interstate 5 north to Sacramento, look out your window both ways. The heart of California looks like its doing really well, doesn’t it.

          • @Eric, ,,I apologize for saying u don’t have facts. The facts are used to divert attention from the question.

        • Really, Eric? You don’t seem to be aware at how the GOP, thanks to the tea party, has lurched so far to the right that they’ve become a problem for the country.

          The republicans in the Senate have obstructed and fillibustered in record numbers. The GOP majority in the House has voted to repeal the ACA around 50 times and has done little else. They’ve shut down the government just for political reasons.

          You try driving a car while the passenger next to you is grabbing the wheel to drive it over a cliff.

          Republican governors and legislators in red states have refused to expand Medicaid, putting their own citizens at risk, while it would cost them nothing for the first year. I just heard that several rural hospitals in George are closing because of their republican governors refusal to expand Medicaid. You are lucky to live in California despite its problems.

          The Democrats can be criticized for a lot of things but to compare the 2 parties as being equality bad is ridiculous. The right wing has lost it’s mind. It began in earnest the day in November 2008, when Barack Obama was elected President. But, I would venture to say, the right would have also flipped out if Hillary had become President. Well, they might get that chance in 2016.

          It’s like having one parent that is trying to make things work while the other is a drunken, abusive mess screwing up everything. The former isn’t going to be as successful as he/she could be as long as the other one is crazy.

          • No, its like having an abusive drunk for a father, meanwhile mom cleans the kitchen with a black eye and tells you how he is just stressed and tired, and that you shouldn’t hold it against him. Living in an environment like that will poison you, so much so that you likely move on and seek the same style of life for yourself later.

            Your arguments about a Republican Congress being in disagreement with its Democratic president being historic are hogwash. It was the same story with Bush and the Democratic Congress, the same story with Clinton and the Republican Congress, Reagan and the Democratic Congress…etc, etc, etc. It is what it is, political theater, designed to entrance and entertain, all the while, no actual change is going to happen, we just keep plodding on in the same direction.

            And actually, the direction the GOP has been lurching in is not “Right”. Its left. Government controlled state (the far mark of the Left column is a Communist/Socialist system, while the far end of the Right column is complete anarchy, neither is advisable) is exactly what the Republicans have been pushing for years (since they lost their way, credit due where credit is due, at least the Democrats are fairly straightforward with what they are). Since when does “deregulation” and “smaller government” require additional bills added to the gallery, sometimes hundreds of pages long (and we all know they don’t read these things).

          • red is correct, Eric “Wow” is right.

            Your analogy about the parents is so off base that I wonder about your ability to write coherent comments.

            You wrote “…mom cleans the kitchen with a black eye and tells you how he is just stressed and tired, and that you shouldn’t hold it against him.”.

            If ‘mom’ is supposed to be President Obama/Democrats, they certainly aren’t saying how ”stressed out the GOP is and we shouldn’t hold it against them”. We definitely should hold republicans responsible for their irresponsible actions in government, i.e. shutting it down costing $14B while crying about the debt and the deficit, spending millions on faux scandals that are debunked after investigation after investigation and obstructing everything that the President puts forth.

            Oh, Eric. The Democrats went along with Bush much more than the republicans are doing with President Obama. If you don’t know that, well, find out.

            The GOP ran on ‘jobs, jobs, jobs’ in 2012 and come the new year, they immediately worked on defunding Planned Parenthood and other nonsense but not jobs, jobs, jobs.

            They are nuts. They oppose legislation that they originated but then turned against it when President Obama signed on to it. My favorite dumb thing the House GOP did was to vote on a budget bill that they really didn’t want to pass just for political reasons. The Democrats punked them by voting ‘Present’ and Boehner had to quickly hold the voting open a few more minutes so some republicans could change their votes to ‘No’ so the bill wouldn’t pass.

            Yes, Eric. There is a difference between the 2 parties. The Democrats aren’t perfect but the republicans are dangerous and willfully so.

            Somehow, the country is managing to plod along with the GOP and tea partiers and Fox News kicking and screaming every inch of the way. I promise you that if the jobless rate which Fox has probably downplayed when it reached 6.3% went up 0.1% next month, they’d be screaming about it on every show, every hour, every day for a week.

            BTW Fox New IS the republican party as is Rush Limbaugh. The GOP politicians are just pawns. See Tony Strickland who running to replace McKeon. He and Michele Bachmann were separated at birth.

            The House of Representatives has gone off the rails with the 50 repeal votes of ACA and doing little else.

            Meanwhile, the jobless rate is down to 6.3%, 288,000 jobs were added in April, the stock market keeps hitting new highs, the ACA has enrolled 8 million Americans, inflation is still low, mortgage rates are still low, we are out of Iraq and soon Afghanistan while Darrell Issa is still trying to make something happen with the Benghazi issue. Reminds me of Alice in Wonderland.

            And, you think the 2 parties are the same??? Can’t you tell s*** from Shinola? Sheesh.

            Then there are the libertarians howling at the moon. What does the moon say in reply, Eric?

          • Bill – Obama currently is mom, both in the sake of my argument and the continuance of the “nanny” state. It is a revolving role in a truly tragic play though. The role was most recently played by George Bush, with a Democrat controlled Congress playing the father. Clinton/Repub before that, Reagan/Democrat before that. They always like to scream how the other is holding them back, yet things still go forward. What an oddity that things get passed in such a dysfunctional environment…

            This line really caught my attention; “faux scandals that are debunked after investigation after investigation…” That is paraphrased by the way, people should scroll down and read the full comment he wrote. However, didn’t you criticize the investigation against the Turnpike Doughboy because it was conducted by his lackeys, you don’t believe that isn’t a trend conducted on all levels of politics, from our local cities through the federal government?

            The GOP ran a bullcrap platform the past two elections. They spent too much time fighting with eachother, Dems didn’t even have to sling any dirt (though they did). I didn’t vote for any Republican candidates in 2012.

            My favorite stupid thing the Congress (Dems and Repubs, Joe Lieberman) does is passing bills (whether it be healthcare for the nation, foreign aid, or new toilet paper dispensers in the Congressional washrooms, or free guns for everyone) without READING them. Or even worse, having a 22 year old intern read it, present THEIR thoughts on it, and voting based off that. Is it really too much to ask for a Representative to read the laws they pass?

            You can quit bringing up Fox News, I don’t watch it. CNN, MSNBC, HLN, none of them. If you get your news from a TV station, you need to be fully aware of the fact that your “News” is being presented to you via a medium that makes money by being able to entrance larger numbers of viewers. Sensationalized at its best. I get my news via print, via internet. I double check articles as well, hope you do. Never read an article at Huffington Post (I know you’ve been there Bill!) without reading a conflicting news story from a Republican rag, and then generally an international source as well. Hey, there is a similarity. Most people get their “news” from a biased source. Generally with an opinion slipped in there as well. World wide phenomena, check Syrian State News against Al-Jazeera sometime. Here is some fun reading as well.

            http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6#!HV0ML

            You listen to any Clear Channel Radio stations in your motor vehicle Bill? Bain Capital has a controlling interest in them. Bain Capital, that is familiar, right?

            As far as your final comment, about me being Libertarian. I’m not. I might be in agreement with quite a few of their policies, there are quite a few I am not with. I’m registered to one of the big parties, won’t say which, it might embarrass you. I don’t vote based on party though. Every election I’ve ever partook in, I’ve voted for a melody of candidates. Vote based on the person, based on their stances. Generally, they still disappoint despite vetting. I voted for two Dems in this past city council election (Ervin & Mejia). I was all over the place on my 2012 ballots. No party deserves a “controlling” majority, neither party should have a “half majority”. Our lives shouldn’t be influenced because our “Representatives” want to play gang war on the Hill.

  98. Please don’t elect anymore Grumpy Old Person, come on People. I beg u, McKeon is gone, McCarthy is next. The best we can do is spread a bad case of the flu. It’s 2014 not 1950. Why is the only thing my congressman has time to do is take away my health care away, my personal choices, shut down our government down or be on vacation. Buck McKeon brought that nut job Allan West to this district, that showed everything we need to know. Anyone who campaigns on taking my insurance, No l don’t think so, but go republicans.