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Reader: “Consider an alternative to fear and judgment”

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Convicted serial rapist Christopher Hubbart was released July 9 and placed in a residence at 20315 East Avenue R, an unincorporated area of Los Angeles County. Read more about the reaction to Hubbart's release here.
Convicted serial rapist Christopher Hubbart was released July 9 and placed in a residence at 20315 East Avenue R, an unincorporated area of Los Angeles County. Read more about the reaction to Hubbart’s release here.

By High Desert resident Carmen Scherubel

Christopher Hubbart has become the name everyone loves to hate. The once-quiet, bedroom community of Lake Los Angeles is now peppered with rapist signs. Daily “peaceful” protests at the property include people with bull horns, revving motorcycles, people shouting messages of hate, and those who decorate the fence line with garbage, hate signs and pillowcases. Some people are there past midnight shining their headlights into the windows and honking their horns. Most of these things are done by rational, well-meaning people. Threats to the guards and Mr. Hubbart are fueled daily by this unrest. The only one sitting quietly by is Mr. Hubbart. His Constitutional Rights are violated on a daily basis and he does not have one complaint. This has truly brought out the best and the worst in the Community.

I have been involved in this since almost the beginning. I was part of the mission to keep him OUT. I wrote the letter that over 12,000 people signed. I researched myself blue in the face for months to find any legal way to prevent the placement. During the process, I learned what is and isn’t possible, what will and won’t happen, and WHY. There is so much the Community does not understand about the Sexually Violent Predator (SVP) program, what Liberty Healthcare’s role in it is and who these people are who participate in the program. In retrospect, I would have done many things differently had I known then what I know now.

Here is a quick primer: The SVP Act was enacted to keep dangerous, repeat sexual offenders off the street. These people have completed their sentences, are subsequently labeled SVPs through a legal process, and are then subject to temporary civil commitment through the Department of State Hospitals.

Once committed, these patients have the option to go through an intensive treatment program designed specifically for sex offenders. It is not a one-size-fits-all program. Approximately 90% of the patients OPT OUT of the treatment program as it is quicker and easier to be released. Also, this program requires total, verifiable honesty. If crimes have been committed and were unreported, they can be held to answer for them. The 90% are eventually released without conditions. No parole, no treatment, no GPS, no supervision….just OUT.

About the remaining 10%: These are the people who have an earnest commitment to change their behavior. It is this very small group of people who are managed by Liberty Healthcare in the Conditional Release Program (CONREP). Their voluntary participation can add many years to their commitment and also makes it very difficult to be released as they are held to a high standard. These are the few people who wanted to help themselves and agreed to a longer commitment; and a controlled, supervised reintegration following the years-long inpatient phase. THESE are the patients who are being placed into the community. Christopher Hubbart is one of the few who requested treatment and followed through.

Liberty Healthcare manages the CONREP program for the State. This is the outpatient phase of the patient’s treatment and is designed to reintegrate them into society slowly and safely while in an extremely controlled environment outside the State Hospital. Since 2003, Liberty Healthcare has been the CONREP supervision program for SVPs in California. They have a 100% success rate, verifiable by court records. Not one of their CONREP participants has ever committed a crime while in the program. A few have been returned to the State Hospital due to infractions in their contract, however not once for any criminal behavior. None have ever removed or attempted to remove their GPS units.

Meeting with Christopher Hubbart

Now that I more completely understand the program, the next step was to find alternatives to protesting something that can’t be altered. Part of this had to be meeting with Christopher Hubbart, the man I most feared, to ask him what his intentions were. I don’t know the Christopher Hubbart from over two decades ago, just what I have read including all the exaggerations (over 100 victims) and sensationalism. I went through the process to be able to meet with him. I am so glad I did that. It was important for me to have a complete perspective. I now know who he is today and how committed he is to his program. He has a faith in God as well as a meditation and prayer practice. He listens to his iPod a good portion of the day, and keeps himself busy by cleaning his house, journaling and painting. He is very close to his doctors and talks to them very regularly.

The guards say he is one of the nicest patients they’ve had. His care team is his lifeline and he is very appreciative of each one of them. He looks forward to each day as his new chance at living a productive life and being in harmony with those in it. More than anything, he doesn’t want people to live in fear of him. He is extremely cognizant of why people do fear him and he understands why the protestors are out there. He holds no animosity toward anyone. There will be some that won’t ever trust or accept him. His hope is that, in time, he can prove to be the exception—the one who did keep his promises and also one who can give hope to others who are trying hard to change their lives as well.

[Painting by Christopher Hubbart]
Painting by Christopher Hubbart. (Contributed by Scherubel)
My impression is that Chris is completely sincere and I feel that with absolute certainty. He is very soft spoken, has a genuine smile and was very pleased that his first visit with someone outside his care team was a positive experience. I brought him a small painting that he’d done many years ago. It had been in his mother’s home and was sold in her estate sale not too long ago. I wish you could have seen the look on his face. He lost his mother just over a year ago and it was something sentimental that he painted for her. He showed me the paintings he brought along with him to Lake Los Angeles and also some that are in progress. They are extraordinary, scenic watercolors. He answered all my questions openly and candidly. He was happy to answer my questions and never hesitated. We had a long conversation and I walked away feeling very encouraged for him and also for those who have yet to consider an alternative to fear and judgment.

Chris wrote a humble and heartfelt letter to the community and it is waiting for the doctor’s approval before it can be released. Since there is so much unrest within the community, the doctors are hesitant to allow it. Chris wishes it could have gone out two weeks ago, but that was not possible. Some day when things calm down, you will read it. He read it aloud to me.

Chris wants to spend the rest of his life helping where ever he can, continuing to paint, and learn to fly fish one day. He wants to live productively and give back to the community that is now his home. He is grateful to be here and loves the extraordinarily beautiful desert vistas. He truly wants to meet people but his supervisor and doctors are being very selective.

We all have a stake in Chris’s success

People can and do change. It happens every day with proper care, a sound support system and commitment. It is all about recovery. The shame is that there are 90% who don’t go through treatment since it is easier to get out without it. We have a person living here who knew that but wanted treatment at any cost, even if it meant he never got out. He spent years longer in the hospital than he ever would have had he elected not to do the program. For that, I think we are ultimately as fortunate as he is.

We all have a stake in Chris’s success. Working against his success is akin to putting a noose around the community. Although I have very little doubt that he would be successful even if most everyone completely ignored him, I think the opportunity here is for your Community to ‘own’ this. The Community can be empowered while doing the same for him. The Antelope Valley can be a great model for how this absolutely CAN successfully work.

Chris is participating remotely with a newly-formed community group to look at positive ways to ensure a successful and safe reintegration. One of the ideas at our first meeting was to ask him if he would be willing to hold classes for the residents so they could learn how to stay safe from potential crimes. Although he will not be able do this in the near future, he said he would gladly do something like that as soon as it is approved. He’d probably do it tomorrow if he could. Another idea from the group was for him to work in concert with law enforcement to help them solve crimes or maybe help in catching someone before they strike again. There again, it is something he would be very open to doing. There is within him the sense of obligation to pay back for his transgressions so this is an important part of his continued success in having an honorable life from here forward. Our next meeting is August 13th 10:00 AM at [removed]. We welcome the community to bring their constructive ideas. Subsequent meeting dates and times will be addressed as some may prefer an occasional evening meeting.

Telling Chris to “GO HOME!” is squandering valuable time. He IS home. Time might be better spent working with our legislators to resolve important issues. We should work on things we CAN change.

  • It makes no sense to commit someone and release them without treatment. I am no longer worried about the 10%. It is the 90% that should be addressed! Warehousing people without helping them accomplishes WHAT? They have a captive audience!
  • Fix Jessica’s Law so there are more places for people to live so the rural areas won’t be a dumping ground. Sex offenders are now allowed in parks so why do they have to live 2000 feet away from one? Pocket parks were created to keep them out but they are now, for all intents and purposes, ineffective. Placements could be made in non-urban areas, 2000 feet from schools, if the law was corrected to cover the recent precedent that was set about parks.
  • The sex offender registry needs a complete overhaul.
  • Every GPS unit on a violent criminal should be actively monitored like the SVP’s units are.

There are so many constructive things to be accomplished. Take down the rapist signs which are negatively affecting the local economy and inflaming people. Use your bull horns to alter something you have the power to change. Choose your battles wisely. Perhaps if we change ourselves, we can change the world around us. It all starts within each of us. And I believe we can do it.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect the views of The AV Times.

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UPDATED 8/4/14: No Hubbart meeting at local IHOP

Editor’s note: An earlier version of this letter stated that a Hubbart-related meeting would be held at a Palmdale IHOP. This is incorrect, according to IHOP representatives [see letter below].

A letter published in the “Your Issues/Your News” section of the Antelope Valley Times  on August 2nd  by local resident Carmen Scherubel stated that a meeting would be held on August 13th at 10:00 AM  in the back room of the IHOP restaurant  located at 2200 E Palmdale Boulevard for the community.

Unfortunately, Ms. Scherubel did not contact our franchisee who owns and operates this restaurant or try to reserve the side room prior to releasing this information. Our franchisee has informed us that they cannot accommodate this meeting due to a very limited seating capacity of the side room which is not equipped to handle a large gathering.

Additionally, the restaurant is not operationally equipped to handle the potentially large crowd that may result from this having been announced in a public forum with a sizeable readership. 

Therefore, our franchisee must decline participation in this meeting and respectfully advises Ms. Scherubel to find a more suitable venue. 

Best regards

Craig M.  Hoffman
Senior Manager, External Communications
IHOP

 

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143 comments for "Reader: “Consider an alternative to fear and judgment”"

  3. This is ridiculous! This guy is a multiple repeat offender. Here you have some idiot who defends this man, saying “People can and do change”! Well, let him live next door to you and your children, then you deal with this SOB when he decides he is “attracted” to a another woman and breaks into her home and rapes her! The community has every right to fear this man, it is only a matter of time before he acts out again.
    Rape is not about “Sex”, it is about “Control”! This twisted jerk, has proven time and time again, he is not to be trusted. So he wants to help others and give back to the community? Oh Boo-hoo, please, he will lash out again, it is only a matter of time. I feel sorry for people who live close by him, I would be a nervous wreck!
    If you want to write a huge article and defend someone, how about defending the people he raped, and whose lives are changed forever, because of what this beast did to them! You sound like an intelligent person, but excuse me you have your priorities all messed up! Put your energy into someone who actually needs help, like the victims. Shaking my head on this article.

  4. “What voluntary concessions could a SVP make to appease the community?”

    Easy answer, draw his last breath of course.No brainer.

  5. I’ve resisted commenting on this issue because what more can be said. It’s disturbing for him to be placed in the Antelope Valley with so many others. It’s disturbing that he is even being released rather than serving a life sentence.

    But, consider this. Almost everyone knows who he is and can take the appropriate actions regarding their safety.

    But, it’s the predators that you don’t know about that are likely to be more of a threat than this guy. The ones that haven’t been caught yet and the ones who are going to commit their first crime.

    So, while it’s important to keep an eye on Hubbard, take the same precautions elsewhere.

    • William,
      I’m watching you. In fact, I’m watching every last one of you! Watch your step because I’m watching YOU!

  6. Although, the author of the article may be sincere, I believe that he or she (Carmen can be man’s or woman’s name) is at a minimum a little naïve. The writer makes some valid points, but does not adequately address the justified fears of residents. Having said that however , I would like to throw out a question for any of the demonstrators. Assuming that the writer’s description of the demonstrators is accurate, my question is to know what the end game is on their part. Most who have weighed in on the issue have described Hubbart as an extremely dangerous and possibly psychotic individual. I would think, then, that any rational person would not be hanging around outside his residence at all hours and making one’s presence known with bullhorns, etc. I know that when I occasionally encounter an obviously dangerous and probably psychotic homeless person who shouts obscenities when I don’t ante up when they are panhandling that I make a wide arc. I certainly don’t take any action which could possibly incite violence or provoke a confrontation. So I really would like to hear what goals these demonstrators have in mind. Or is it that they want Hubbart to snap and act out .

    • First, off Carmen was inaccurate (to say the least) no one is out there at midnight or early morning hours. Maybe 2-10 with people coming and going. As with all protests, the objective is change. No one is threatening him or encouraging any acts of violence on him or from him. The veracity of my statements are supported by the fact that no one has been arrested. If/when deputy’s have driven by they have been respectful of our First Amendment Right which is a credit to the department. Second, we are working to gather community support to ask our County Board of Supervisors to use CA Penal code 3003.5(c) to further restrict placement of SVPs in areas that have no police station and no hospital. Knowing what he did it is unconscionable to place an SVP in area that is ill-prepared to respond timely and adequately to the threat and risks he poses to the public. Third we want to make it loud and clear to Liberty Health and all involved that this area will NOT just role over and allow itself to be a dumping ground any longer. We do nothing and more will come!

  7. THIS IS WHAT THE PILLOW CASE RAPIST DID TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING!
    CARMEN, PLEASE TELL US AGAIN HOW ALL THESE EVENTS ARE “ANCIENT HISTORY” TO HIM!
    “On August 20, 1981, defendant went to a residence on Beamer, where he had seen the victim a few weeks earlier. He entered the residence at about 4:00 a.m., woke the victim and told her not to scream. He bound her, gagged her, and wrapped her head with an elastic bandage. He put a lubricant on his fingers and inserted them into her vagina and her anus. He also inserted a vibrator into her anus, attempted to sodomize her, and raped her.” – See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1072378.html#sthash.PuQXGBWK.J60cH5dB.dpuf

    • Protestor—As a woman who has been raped twice in my lifetime, the first with attempted murder that put me in the hospital for a month. I lost several feet of my intestines and had a ruptured kidney. Also emotional scars that lasted many years. Through God’s love He has shown me how to forgive, how to let go, and how to move on. I have done my homework with regard to Christopher Hubbard and I have read all that he has done, from high school and throughout the years. I can tell you that inciting hate, which is what you’re trying to do, absolutely solves nothing but create a mob mind-set. Shame on you protester!

        • Dear Bird,
          From one victim to another – Get your head out of the sand. Forgive? Perhaps. Integrate him into our town? Never. I don’t know about you but I have no intention of giving any rapist a second chance to hurt anyone else. Who’s going to watch him after
          Liberty Health Care leaves? God? Better be, because the Sheriff can’t. Wake up and smell the coffee!

          • Amen Mimi and God Bless You! Those who think we are inciting violence, I ask you to come out and see for yourselves how that is not true. Also, check the papers…no arrests…that should speak for itself! We have a right to free speech and I for one intend on exercising it to protect my family and my community and bring awareness to this issue.

      • Bird-
        I think the point was to show in full how monstrous this man has been. Inciting hate… I disagree with your assessment and I think you should not be so judgemental. Judge not lest ye be judged.

  8. Show me someone who thinks a man who raped over 40 women is a perfectly nice guy, based on the fact that she talked to him a few a times and found him amiable, and I’ll show you an easy mark.

  9. The bastard is using he’s painting skills to get closer to women the little smart bastard off with he’s testicles !!!!!!!!!!

  10. Let me see if I got this right…
    IHOP is going to stop a group of people from eating there based on the topic of their conversation?

    That is hilarious. And you all applaud the violation of their freedom of speech? YOU are what is wrong with this country.

    • Let me see if I understand you… A pancake business would prefer not to hold a meet and greet for a serial rapist, and people applauding that wise business decision is what is wrong with America? I don’t believe IHOP is required by the bill of rights to allow community gatherings for serial rapists, or anyone else for that matter.

        • You can toss around words like ignorant and say you know whats wrong with America, but I’d encourage you to think about this from more perspectives. As a business, is this type of thing good business? The police officer that killed Kelly Thomas was asked to leave an IHOP I believe it was. Is that also ignorant or does that pass your stringent test for being okay for America? See, the business saw no gain by having a controversial presence there. I know, ignorant… ruining America… etc… Why don’t they hold the darn thing at a church or park. Or is that ignorant?

    • sjgranai—Please read the article again because your comment is not addressing the article. IHOP is not stopping a group of people from eating there based on the topic. Carmen Scherubel could rent a hall for a meeting and accept donations to cover the cost. Being organized makes things run smoothly, otherwise it is chaos. Since this topic seems to bring out reactionary behavior in some people, it is best to cover different scenarios to minimize such reactionary behavior.

    • Jud and Sjgranai, since you seem to have no problem with him living here, move him to a house one street away from you. That’s what happened to me. I don’t want him here – maybe you would consider my suggestion. then, I thank all the people protesting.

      • More ignorance.
        I wouldn’t have an issue living next to him. He never raped a neighbor. He didn’t rape anyone he knew…so I would keep that in mind. Take a good look at your current neighbors and then know that over 80% of all rapes are unreported AND are by someone the victims know.
        The group is still having their breakfast meeting. It is a small group of educated individuals. We will have our awesome pancakes and discuss the results of the items to look into from the last meeting (at that IHOP) and look into next steps.

        If people actually knew our goals then they would nfot be so afraid. A collaborative is a collection of people working together for a common goal. The goal is for Hubbart not to fail…aka..reoffend. We all have different ideas of how that can be achieved. We support each other and lend our networking and resources to each other.
        We are about protecting our community within the current laws. Working with the hand we were dealt and doing what we can. We have made great strides in the last few weeks…more than either protest group.
        There is a chance for the community to become stronger through.this. The hate and hysteria is NOT the.way.

        • No, not ignorance – rather, the experience of being a victim. Years of therapy and help are the basis for the fear in my comments. My attack occurred nearly 50 years ago – and no, the fear and worry has never gone away. Unless you are qualified to rehabilitate this monster, please don’t pass judgment on me. I am not ignorant; I think I may know more than you.

          • It is safe to assume people want him gone.
            He is not going to leave because of a protest.
            He is going to leave when he completes his program.
            So.how about letting the man complete his program so he can leave!?
            How hard is that to understand?
            If he fails…he rapes again.
            The group meets to.discuss ways to work within the community as a partner with Liberty to make sure that does NOT happen.
            The current protestors are openly stating they want to aggitate him to the point of breaking…aka snapping …aka trigger a relapse ..aka..raping again.
            Is THAT what people are supporting? They want him to rape again.

          • THINK TANK
            Let’s clarify what these Roootie Tootie protestors are freaking out over.

            The THINK TANK is working together to see if we can organize some sort of pilot program that could be used in communities that receive a SVP. It is focused on educating a community about the treatment received and the rules the patient is to follow. It is then joining with Liberty in a voluntary (for the patient) compromise to create a better sense of security for the community.
            What this compromise could look like is what we are working on. This would be the time to bring a rational voice to the table and explore ideas.
            Reintegration IS a part of the overall SVP treatment. It is not the goal per se of the THINK TANK. Our idea is how can the reintegration happen in due time with the least amount of issues. What would people want to see happen first? What voluntary concessions could a SVP make to appease the community?
            Hubbart was put in the AV and that ruling was controversial. There are SVPs getting out that are LA County residents and we won’t be able to stop them. We can only plan for those who received treatment and are being supervised.
            The other SVPs will get out and don’t have to do a damn thing and have had no treatment.
            We are trying to THINK of options and ideas.

        • Then perhaps not engaging in ad hominem argumentation would be a good strategy? Calling people ignorant then saying they are what is wrong with America is neither collaborative, constructive, or a sign of advanced education and discourse.

          • Jud—Spot on! Some people are too busy thinking about what they think should be said, instead of listening. Reactionary behavior, calling people stupid, ignorant, or any other negative words only tears down the whole process of anything positive.

        • sjgrani,
          C’mon, are you really drinking the kool aid so much that him moving in next door to you would be just fine? Saying that makes you lose credibility because either it’s a lie, or it’s the truth, which makes you look either shady or laughably accepting of having sexually violent predators as neighbors. I think I would prefer that you’re lying about it because at least I can understand a lie based on your zeal to advocate for Hubbard. If it’s the truth, well, that’s just too far out weird for me to even try to contemplate.

    • IHOP is not owned by the government and SVPs are not a protected class (thank God) entitled or deserving of any application of our state’s or country’s anti-discriminatory law.

  11. Glad they cancelled that! I don’t think I would want to ever eat there again if they didn’t…

    • You wouldn’t want to eat there again based on people getting together for a meal and a meeting (which btw wouldn’t have Christopher there)? While you must not want to live on earth either since they live here

      • Meme,
        Or in this universe either because they live in this unoverse too! Excellent point. It’s the exact same thing. If I choose not to eat at IHOP for my own reasons, I must not want to live on earth. That’s a mighty slippery slope you’ve created.

  12. Wow, so much hate directed towards the author for a simple message of “make the best of a horrible situation”. Nothing in the piece indicates that the writer wants him to remain in the community. There is just an acknowledgement that no matter how much residents protest he is not going to be sent back to the hospital or prison.

    I think the recommendations she makes are very sensible. It is unfair that rural communities bear the brunt of housing sex offenders. In fact the reason he is in Lake LA is because people so blindly pushed for more restrictive residential requirements until few locations qualified as possible housing areas.

    Everyone can rightly wish that he would simply go away, but he is not, and I think this author has a more reasonable approach than spewing hate in the middle of the night.

    And one last thing, the calls for victim’s perspectives is moronic. The last thing those poor women need is people coming around to reopen wounds from 30 plus years ago. Let those women heal in peace.

  13. Carmen Scherubel—With much prayer I am replying to your article. Although I agree with you that reactionary behavior towards Christopher Hubbard does not solve this issue, I disagree with the rest of your article and find it deceptive. I am a woman that has been raped twice in my lifetime. The first time was in 1974 with attempted murder to go with my rape. The second time in 1977 at gunpoint, and will not go into detail. I have done my homework on Christopher Hubbard. He has always been shy, soft spoken and remorseful, and this was when he was released the first time, with Psychiatrists, Psychologists, and other evaluators saying he was cured. Christopher Hubbard would be released two more times only to commit many more rapes and fifty burglaries. I read what he did to these women and the pillowcase moniker is only a very small part of the horrible things he did. It made me physically ill to read what he did. Christopher Hubbard is very smart (IQ122), and calculating. Even with his apparent faith in God, he should then be honest and admit he should never be released into the community on his own for fear he might lose control as he has so many times before.

  14. He is a MONSTER!!! HE FORCED his way into women’s homes and RAPED them!!! He doesn’t deserve to be free! He’s deserves the death penalty!!!
    What a joke this author is!!! She would trust a toddler in a candy store I’ll bet!! Just because someone EVIL is soft spoken and paints doesn’t mean theyre good!!! Hitler was an artist for petes sake!

    • I think these Bible thumpers, or whatever they are, would argue that Hitler had gone to counseling, was being supervised, and we all need to accept him into the community. I mean, the genocide was like 60 years ago! Let’s meet at IHOP and figure out how to help make Adolf successful in the AV.

  15. So, this is a complicated issue….you all can search ‘doc stoc’ and type in this persons name for court documents w/descriptions of the crimes committed. This is public information. I have done this. When you read those documents…then you will have the knowledge to form your opinion. After doing so…compare it to, say the guy who grabbed that little girl walking to school in Lancaster recently…remember, he asked her ‘if she was looking for a little D#$%k today?’ and then raped and sodomized her right there in the bushes? I would be more afraid of that guy in our community…and there are probably MANY among us! Please note….NOT a sympathizer….I just hope Mr. Hubbart may be able to progress and not regress….and that takes a village….

    • Julie, what that monster did to that little girl is horrible, Hubbart did that and much,much more.:(

      • Thanks for posting that Linda! As I said…my HOPE is that he progresses…if not we are all at risk…he is out of jail…IMO this is very, for lack of a better word ‘pervy’ stuff…there are many VIOLENT predators among us…why aren’t people picketing at their homes? If any harm is done to this person, I will blame the sensationalism from the media…he is not just another rapist, but the PILLOWCASE rapist and the Antelope Valley sheep will follow the media rather than read the link regarding his crimes….I have seen MUCH MUCH worse w/no outrage from the AV public.

  16. No matter how talented Hubbart is or soft spoken he is, lets not forget his crimes. Here are just a few.

    EXCERPTS

    On June 28, 1981, defendant returned to the apartment complex on North Mathilda at about 4:40 a.m. After seeing the victim inside an apartment, he left to obtain materials with which to bind her.   When he returned, he woke the victim by covering her mouth, and threatened her.   He taped her hands and mouth, then went into the bathroom to prepare an enema.   He placed petroleum jelly on his fingers, then inserted them into the victim’s anus and vagina.   He also fondled her breasts.   He administered the enema, then sodomized her.   On July 20, 1981, defendant again returned to the North Mathilda apartment complex in the middle of the night.   He was chased away by the police. – See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1072378.html#sthash.W7Ff3p9w.dpuf

    He committed 25 or 26 such assaults that year, all of them in the Los Angeles area.   He would drive around in the early morning and look for homes that had garage doors open, indicating the man of the house had gone to work.   He would also look for children’s toys, believing that mothers would be protective of their children and more likely to cooperate with him.   He would bind the women’s hands and cover their faces, then sexually assault them.   The sexual acts included fondling their breasts, vaginal intercourse, and anal intercourse. – See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1072378.html#sthash.W7Ff3p9w.dpuf

    On January 29, 1981, at about 5:15 a.m., defendant entered the same apartment, because he “had some thoughts about going back and probably fondling” the woman, who he found attractive.   He encountered a second woman.   He threatened to slit her throat if she screamed, then fondled her breasts. – See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1072378.html#sthash.W7Ff3p9w.dpuf

    He fondled the victim’s breasts and inserted a vibrator into her vagina.   He also had the victim rub his penis. – See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1072378.html#sthash.W7Ff3p9w.dpuf

    Here is what Hubbart’s former parole officer had to say.

    The former parole officer of a high-profile serial rapist — soon to be released into a small California community — said he believes the violent sexual predator will repeat his offenses and fears him “more than a Mexican Mafia killer.”

    In an e-mail sent to the Los Angeles County District Attorney, retired parole officer John Bays writes that Christopher Hubbart, who admitted to raping at least 40 women in the 1970s and 80s “scared me more than any Gangbanging Killer I ever met.”

    The e-mail, dated Nov. 5, 2013, was obtained by FoxNews.com following the announcement that Hubbart will be released into a residential community in Lake Los Angeles by July 7.

    “I know more about Christopher Hubbart than I care to remember,” wrote Bays, who served as Hubbart’s parole officer in the 1990s. “Why does Chris scare me more than a Mexican Mafia Killer? Because Hubbart’s actions are ‘compulsive’ … personal compulsions at the expense of another’s life.”

    “I fought hard to keep Hubbart locked up for obvious reasons,” Bays said. “Christopher Hubbart is where he belongs – that I am proud of.”

  17. I find it quite disturbing that many of you are personally attacking the author. WHY? She is trying to find a solution to this problem by figuring out a way to keep the community safe now that CH is part of it. I did not notice ANY constructive ideas to deal with CH. Sending him back to jail or the hospital is not possible. He has served his time and is a free man….like it or not. Changing laws regarding housing aren’t going to help because of the Federal Fair Housing Act. You can not discriminate against people while renting a home to them. The protesting is obviously NOT working because he is still there after almost a month of it. He also said he understood it which doesn’t sound to me like he is rushing to leave. The author even mentions she wrote the letter to the judge to keep CH from being released and obtained 12,000 signatures. It sounds to me like everyone should be thanking her for all of her efforts. An intelligent person does realize when a different tactic needs to be taken and Carmen is trying to find one. Maybe some of you don’t agree with her but then offer a solution that is doable. She believes CH has received treatment and is sincere in his recovery. No one knows if he is or isn’t but these comments are uncalled for. One of them regarding “grooming” and how CH fooled Carmen because that’s what he does, is false. Rapists don’t “groom” phediphiles do. CH did not charm his way into the women’s homes, he walked into strangers homes. This is not “grooming”. Other totally false comments are stating CH told the judge or doctors that if he was released he would re-offend and that he had over 100 victims. These are totally false comments. If people are going to make statements I would like to see proof because most of them are totally false. Another comment threatened IHOP because the author said the next town meeting to discuss alternative solutions would be there. She did not say CH would be there and it was a welcome to the community breakfast as the comment alleged. Before you folks personally attack Ms. Scherubel why don’t you think about how to best deal with this problem. I think most of you have missed the entire point to this article. I don’t agree the author is saying to welcome CH with open arms or that anyone should have him babysit the kids. I believe the article was a sincere attempt to an alternative way to handle the problem that doesn’t include protesting but allowing CH to move forward in his life. One thing you all may want to consider….the sooner he completes his reintegration the sooner he will leave your community. He HAS to stay there while he is under Liberty’s care but once he successfully completes the program he will leave. The author is saying work on the things you can change like Jessica’s Law. Some people can and do change, none of you know what’s in CH heart or mind so all the speculation is a waste of time. Nowhere in her article did she say everyone should forget about his past or his victims. She is trying to work with the community to put safe guards in place now that CH is a part of it. I think the saying goes, “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” There’s a reason for this and maybe that’s what the author has in mind.

    • I think the author touched a nerve. Most adults have a fairly solid understanding of depravity, criminality, and the need to look at the world with a certain cynical understanding that there are dangers. People that see things through a rainbow, are naive, and sincere in that naivety, become a nuisance. It seems like we should find the simple idiocy to be charming, but it’s not; it’s very frustrating and feels like an immature child is trying to lecture on how we the pragmatic should behave.

      • I think what she is saying is that since CH is here to stay, the next question is how do we handle this constructively. It’s a waste of time to continue to talk about how horrible his crimes were. Of course they were horrible, and no one is arguing that, however now that he’s out how do we handle it. She is taking the position that once he completes the program which includes reintegration with the community, the faster he will move out. This seems to make sense to me. She is not saying anything besides that but people have her marrying the guy. Just ridiculous. I don’t believe she is naive but practical. Nor is she lecturing anyone. She is making an attempt to help a community that seems to have blinders on. Everyone wants him out and the fastest way for that to happen is for the protesters to get jobs to occupy their time instead of interfering with his ability to complete his program so he can move. None of the SVP’s have stayed in the area they were initially released to and neither will he. Focus on what we can change. The sooner this happens the better off we will be.

        • Paris,
          What is the odd statement that she’s aware of his story including the exaggerations and sensationalism and the Chris she met is a sincere Christian that likes to pray, meditate, and paint? I think you missed some of the tone of the letter. I like the part about how people do change and Chris has embraced treatment. If she wanted to take a more practical approach instead of fawning over his transformation into an extraordinary painter that wants to give to the community, then I think this letter would be more palatable and less sycophantic.

          • Maybe the author tried to humanize CH which many folks didn’t like. I have to agree on that front, however; I have to go back to the fact this lady led the charge to keep him out and only began taking a different approach once the politicians and judge ruled against us. I just don’t understand why some people insist on picking apart the author instead of helping to come up with a plausible solution. While she may have gone over board in her effort to humanize him, she certainly did not deserve to be torn to shreds. She is very brave to be putting herself out there in order to help our community. If there are folks out here that have a better way to handle this, please speak up. But keep in mind he is NOT going to go back to jail or the hospital and we can’t force him to. Remember this guy survived years in the Folsom Prison yard so does anyone really believe he will be afraid of a handful of women out there protesting? This is why an alternative solution must be found. Everything I have read states when the SVP has completed his program he has moved away from the community; many move out of state. Integration into the community does not mean he will babysit our children or be hanging out in the local parks. It just means he has to continue therapy and get through his step work to move to the next phase. Once he is released from the Liberty program he will be free to leave A.V. This seems to be the fastest and best way to get rid of him…. that’s legal. I think that is what the author wanted to do and everyone attacked her for it. There are many things in life we don’t agree with and there are thousands of these guys out in our communities. The law abiding citizens should not be fighting among themselves. (I have been reading how the protest groups are fighting with each other). What is this accomplishing? Please folks we all need to focus on a solution and should be banning together to resolve this problem, not fighting with each other.

          • I agree! It’s terrible that at the time of CH crime spree the laws against rape were not strong enough. Now someone like him would definitely get life, no parole. There are many men in his position and I am just hoping that when they are released it’s with the amount of security precautions that CH has. It may not be a guarantee but it certainly beats just allowing these monsters to walk our streets unrestricted. I don’t know if any of these men ever get “well” or change their behavior, but people do change throughout their lives and to KNOW for sure they can’t change…..I sure hope that’s not the case for all of our sakes.

  18. Let him paint. Protests make him a celebrity. The Law let him out, that’s our government, folks. We all have to live with it. I’m a crime victim and my perps walk free, it’s part of life in the USA. Let him be the ex-con he is. To me that house looks pretty isolated, he’d have to go some distance to go after anyone, so…. This woman must be embarrassed seeing how her interview looks to people. I think she was manipulated, I doubt Hubbart is safe, but neither are my perps who are out there walking free with no ankle bracelets. We all let our country get like this, now we have to live in it. Don’t protest or write stories about him either, it only feeds the flame. This guy will soon be the topic of a Lifetime Movie, I bet.

    • Interesting link – Thanks for posting sikntired; I reserved and held off on making the same observation on the author. However based on the way Carmen wrote this article, it surely points to this being a classic example of such. Even if this is not the case, the author needed to incorporate more than just a one sided observation on Chris. The submitted draft and article makes Carmen sound like a giddy schoolgirl with a secret crush on the older outcast with a bad rep who actually turns out to be a nice guy who’s just misunderstood. I hope Carmen is being totally honest here, because the more I read her article, the more it sounds like she’s been corresponding with him for a lot longer than she cares to admit …

  22. This lady should not be reporting on this she should resurch some more or maybe she is just one of those crazy ladies that love killer and rapist… so i guess > IHOP is going to let him in ?

  24. Why doesnt the author go there without body guards to protect her! Its pretty sad a women is defending this monster! I wonder if she would still feel the same he broke into her house and raped her years ago! People do change, I’m not saying they dont change but he has proven time after time that HE doesnt change. He just wants people to think he’s changed so they can think he’s changed so when he attacks again people will have their guard down! This is crazy that the community has done all this stuff to keep him out and now just because she says not to fear him we are suppose to believe her! Yeah right. He knows how to fool people and this author is just another person he fooled !!!!!

  25. Are you kidding? This person belongs behind locked gates and should never be let out. I was a victim of childhood molestation and it’s taken me years – and money – to get the therapy needed to live with it. Now, at my (and other taxpayer’s) expense, the Boogie Man is living one street away from me. Go to IHOP to attend a meeting on how to support a monster? Maybe not.

  26. The way he got this writer to swoon and cave to his charms shows me he is ready to be a predator again, nowhere near rehabilitated. If he cared for community he’d stay quiet, not seduce “reporters” what a louse. He’s out of prison, he should continue his punishment from home. This interview reveals his sociopath qualities, in print, right before our eyes.

  27. It is nice to see someone who actually took the time to do some research on the subject instead of just spewing hate speech from an understandable gut reaction.

    I have spent some time in discussions with a criminologist friend of mine that researches sex offenses, offenders, and treatments. The subject is far more complicated than most people know and there is a LOT of misinformation and fear on the issue out there.

    I will definitely let my friend know of the meeting and see if he can attend. He may be of some assistance to this group and the entire AV, as well.

    • She did the research on him alone! Had she also interviewed some of his victims and gave them a voice, I might not have been so pissed off about this article. This whole article is rubbish. Anyone who thinks he has been rehabilitated is naive, psychopaths know what to say to people to make others believe what they want them to believe. You can go ahead and let your guard down and believe he will never hurt anyone again, I will on the other hand be alert never trust this monster.

  28. I get the impression this one person is being used as a scapegoat for the community to tske their anger out on. Here’s a question for all you closed minded people…do you know for a fact thst our next door neighbor has never committed a crime in any fashion? That your next door neighbor has never molested or raped or harmed anyone, ever? If you know for a fact you are safe, good for you. However, I know for a fact my children and I can never guarantee we are safe. What I can guarantee is that we are safe from this one guy. He has been locked away from society for over 20 years. He is in his 60’s. He is isolated more now than he was when he was in a mental hospital. We give murderers who have killed our children as little as five years and release them back into society with a bus ticket and a couple hundred tax dollars. This is justifiable???? I am a survivor of an assault by a public service worker responsible for transporting hundreds of people a day. The predator never spent a single day in jail because I was not assaulted in front of a crowd and DNA was not popular. The community needs to do as the article says…take your anger and your hate and use it to teach ypur children and your neighbors and anyone you come in contact with how to protect themselves. Teach your sons the value of a woman! Don’t let it be okay for construction workers to whistle at females walking down the street. Don’t let it be okay for any man to belittle the respect a woman deserves! This guy is just a waste of our time. We can only learn from his experience how to prevent it from happening again. And remember…we are making it more acceptable for someone to tske the life of our children. Just saying.

    • None,

      I think you have confused whistling at women and serial rape. While I don’t condone the first, the second should be life in prison. If we are to value women, as you say, what value are we showing when we release a man that has raped dozens of women? I think you are showing a lack of respect for women and victims by mixing violent sexual predators and construction workers into the same bag and saying the predator himself is a scapegoat. He’s not a scapegoat. He’s a violent person that has done violent things to women.

    • None, you’ve said a lot. Sadly some people are in vigilante mode. I don’t condone this man’s release. It would have saved a lot of headaches and money if he’d just been kept in prison. But, he is the safe one. He’s being watched. The person you have to watch out for is the serial rapist who’s running free and hasn’t been caught yet. And, those who are in fear of this guy – may know a serial rapist – he may be closer than you think. I’ve had a few people I’ve known over the years – nice decent people – happy families – and it turns out their loved one is a pervert. don’t want to scare anyone but don’t focus on this one guy and leave yourself open.

    • Gotta start somewhere.

      ..and by the way, when was the last time so many were in agreement on a topic on this site? May be hope for this community.

    • Are you not disturbed by the “picture” that this man made? It is of a Native American-probably a picture of someone he was stalking or had intentions of raping. This shows that he is obsessed with females.

  29. The author of article seems very optimistic about this person to the point that she is making him appear like a victim of the community. She says she has “heard all of the exaggerations (over 100 victims)” as if 40+ victims is almost insignificant. I’m pretty sure being raped is devastatingly significant to each of his victims. She is wrong to refer to him as a patient. In fact, he is a violent criminal. She says he is soft spoken and sincere. From what I’ve read, so was Ariel Castro, Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy.

  30. I give this lady a lot of credit for doing what she did and admitting it to us. It’s wonderful when someone can turn around and do what she’s done.

    You negative people must live a sorry life. We all sin and we beg for forgiveness. If you’re not of the families that were personally affected, then get on with your lives and let him try and get on with his.

    Everyone has a mentally ill person somewhere in their family. I know I do and I pray for him always. Why can’t you be a support system and give the man a chance. If he does something wrong, everyone around him will know and he’ll be back in the hospital.

    You all sound like vindictive demons. God help you for your life isn’t over and you don’t know what it holds. Just mind your business and get on with your lives. We have a lot more serious problems to deal with than him.

    • How many women do you think he gave a chance? Out of those 40 women he admits to raping how many do you think he gave a chance to get away? Please don’t group all mentally ill people in the same category as a man who’s committed so many repeat offenses. That is just absolutely insulting. As far as I’m concerned Hubert is a ticking time bomb. Could he possibly want to change? Maybe but you don’t rape 40 women unless there is something incredibly wrong with you. Something wrong to your core that must gnaw away at your thoughts and hopefully he can control that but clearly he has has a massive lack of control in the past. Either way he deserves to be in a mental institute wheres hes not a potential danger to the community and to himself. As far as minding our own business, this is our business as a community for the reasons I explained above.

    • “If he does something wrong, everyone around will know and he’ll be back…”-rooney. How about we make sure there are no more victims by sending him back now…or at the least get him out of here! NO MORE VICTIMS! NO MORE CHANCES! How can any of us respect your opinion when you so clearly have no respect for the human life that would be destroyed on his re-offense! That makes you demonic, not the protesters. Also, to categorize his paraphilia with those who struggle with other mental health issues is disgusting and an insult!

    • Rooney,

      You demonstrate my point exactly. Certain types of self-righteous Christians like to find the worst types to defend mostly so that they can judge everyone else and make themselves feel holy. I’m guessing you don’t actually believe what you say, but you feel a little bit better than others, more forgiving and Godly, by saying it.

    • “You negative people must live a sorry life. We all sin and we beg for forgiveness. If you’re not of the families that were personally affected, then get on with your lives and let him try and get on with his.

      Everyone has a mentally ill person somewhere in their family. I know I do and I pray for him always. Why can’t you be a support system and give the man a chance. If he does something wrong, everyone around him will know and he’ll be back in the hospital.

      You all sound like vindictive demons. God help you for your life isn’t over and you don’t know what it holds. Just mind your business and get on with your lives. We have a lot more serious problems to deal with than him.”
      *********

      Rooney;

      So in order to be offended and concerned over this man’s past I need to have blood ties to his victims and their families, and if not I need to get on with my life and let him get on with his?

      I don’t need to be related to or know any of his victims to justify my contempt for a monster like him. As part of a normal person’s personal value system, it’s quite normal to feel anger and sympathy and outrage at this situation; all of the normal emotions that Chris is lacking, like most sociopaths.

      If a toddler is ran over and killed I don’t need to know the parents and neighbors to justify the sadness I would no doubt feel, and I certainly don’t have to justify or conceal my feelings towards a monster who raped over 40 women – Don’t forget that. He doesn’t have a life nor deserve a life to ‘try to get on with’ – You lose those perks when you commit rape. As for the mental illness excuse and pointing out that ‘everyone has a mentally ill person somewhere in their family’ – What does that have to do with anything?

      We are not talking about someone’s uncle suffering from OCD or depression here, so drift back to planet earth and tell us why we should mind our own business and look the other way. If you have time as well, enlighten us with your opinions and examples of the more serious problems we have to deal with (locally, within the AV) – The seriousness of this problem is that there are hundreds of people like Chris living in the AV, and most of them were transplanted here and dumped off like stray animals.

      You keep praying for Chris, because rest assured he’s going to keep ‘preying’ too. SMH – A man rapes over 40 women and we need to worry about our sins and sorry lives? How inhumane of me. Next time you light a candle for Chris, be sure to light 43 more for his victims.

  31. You are clearly naive if you think this man has changed, psychopaths are intelligent people, of course he wants everybody to think he has changed, he knows exactly what to say and how to say it to get you to let your guard down. Who really cares that his civil rights are being violated everyday, he violated many women and CHILDREN he didn’t care about that and clearly neither do you! My daughter was raped when she was 7 by a neighbor in Palmdale, you have not one clue what you are talking about!!! Instead of talking that scumbag why don’t talk to some of the victims he raped and see how devastating it can be mentally! You are disrespectful to not only his victims but to other rape victims as well. I personally don’t give two [removed] if he wants to live peacefully, I am sure his victims don’t live that peacefully. This article is disgusting , unbelievable and a insult to my intellegence.

  32. UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON CHRISTOPHER HUBBARD. I HAVE FAMILY IN ANTELOPE VALLEY AND THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT RELIVE MY DEEP CONCERN FOR THEIR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF THEIR COMMUNITY. ARE WE TO BELIEVE (WITH ONLY THE AUTHOR’S FACT FINDING INTERVIEW) THAT MR. HUBBARD IS BEING HONEST WITH HER. WHERE ARE THE VOICES OF HIS 40+ VICTIMS? DOES THE AUTHOR PLAN TO INTERVIEW THEM SO WE HAVE THE COMPLETE STORY? LET US NOT FORGET HE VICTIMIZED THESE WOMEN AND FOREVER CHANGE THEIR LIVES.

    I WOULD SAY MR. HUBBARD WAS SUCCESSFUL IN HIS MISSION OF INDOCTRINATION OF THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE. SHE NEEDS TO GIVE VOICE NOT ONLY TO MR. HUBBARD BUT TO THOSE WOMEN HE VICTIMIZED SO THE COMMUNITY HAS HIS COMPLETE PAINTING.

    LET US NOT FORGET THE CLOWN PAINTINGS OF SERIAL MURDER, JOHN WAYNE GACY.

  33. The problem as I see it with this article is that possibly the interviewer has not spent enough time researching violent sexual predators. They are usually likeable nice people. That’s how they become serial rapists. When they get caught their neighbors are usually surprised. It’s not that they aren’t nice people, it’s that their BRAIN works differently from people that are not violent sexual predators. So far there hasn’t been any kind of fix that society could come up with. This program is a Band-Aid. It does not address the real issue of how Mr. Hubbart THINKS. Drugs and even surgery can MASK his feelings and urges, but can never be called a fix. Like Alcoholics, once a predator, always a predator. If Mr. Hubbart can work his program and not offend, then bully for him, but I DO NOT want to take a chance with my loved ones that he is OK now. I live in Lake Los Angeles not to very far from where Mr. Hubbart is. I will NOT open myself or my family to ANY person who has offended the way Mr. Hubbart has. Sorry, I just won’t take that chance. I shouldn’t have to either. He was convicted of felonies. He lost his constitutional rights when he was convicted. Maybe YOU want to be his friend, but I DO NOT. And really? Did you think he was going to be horrible to you? Do some more research…….

    • I wasngoing to suggest the same thing have him live with you since your not worried about that 10 %, this story is such disrespectful to the victims and their families.

  35. Yeah dawg, I wanna sign up for his class, oh yeah.Knows how to work the room, doesn’t he.

  37. Enough with the hype because you met with the convicted rapist and you now have a change of heart in the way you used to view him. In order to have a fair and balanced approach to this debate I would ask Ms. Scherubel to seek out some of “Chris’s” victims and see how they are doing after so many years? How much care and treatment did they receive from the same tax-payers who footed the bill for Chris? Are they able to maintain a healthy lifestyle and have bodyguards to protect them while they sleep at night tormented by the thought of Chris putting a pillowcase over their head and raping them? Do they get their rent, food, and utilities paid by the State of California? Why is there never a mention of consideration for the victims? I can say that the tables surely have been turned in our judicial system…Criminals are now the victims and deserve all the help that they can…Victims are dispensable and are left to heal on their own at their own expense!

  38. This article needs to be removed. Do not defend this monster who has ruined countless lives. He deserves much worse and his victims deserve much better. You’d feel much different if you were one of his many victims, a sexual assault victim yourself, or if a family member went through something good like this. Shame on you!!

  39. I think certain types of Christians like to find despicable people and take up for them because it makes them feel holy. Then they tell others not to judge. It’s just something that makes them feel better about themselves.

    • Well that pic looks like an indian girl? Mabe one he hurt or is going to? As a mother & a victim myself I don’t take chances with my family and friends so I will help to get him out of here. Rapist don’t change, all they do is hurt peoples lives forever, I should know. If he is the first to change it would be a miracle.. .ya right, can’t change the stripes on a zibra. Either way I don’t want him here, I grew up with all the nightmares of him, richard r,and charles manson(helterscelter) I have had enough! !!! Go away pillowcase.

  40. He was released and raped again. Before this release, he warned he would do it again. Soft spoken and gentle appearance mean nothing. Jeffrey Dahmer was soft spoken and pleasant.
    Sorry but “Chris” forfeited his right to help people and give back to the community and learn to fly fish. He must wake up to the real world and request to go back to prison or the hospital or any institution that will have him. He can paint there and live in relative peace. How does he support himself now or how will he in the future?
    Prayers now and forever for the scores of his victims.

  41. There are 2 sides to every story. Thank you for showing us the other side. Hopefully you will be right. It still is so upsetting to think about what he has done and how that affected every one of his victims and their families…

  42. Someone rape and hang this vile creature. Leave it to liberal AV TIMES to take this creeps side. Disgusting!

  43. Well this is good to know, as I was under the impression that this man spends his days and nights dressed in drag, crouched over a sewing machine in a dimly lit room, carefully fine tuning his skills in the art of sewing unique garments; when he’s not otherwise occupied with the tedious task of tending to his butterfly collection or entertaining a female guest relaxing in the basement water well …. Instead of writing a testament to this man’s gentle demeanor and apparent gift of art, you should consider researching John Douglas’ profile work – Chris is a classic sociopath that uses his ‘gentle soul’ and soft spoken approach to accomplish what he needs. Ted Bundy was a nice man too. In fact most serial rapists are very nice, well mannered, bright, articulate and creative people. That’s why they get away with committing such atrocities. They blend in well and are usually the last person one would suspect. Another interesting fact: Serial killers usually start off with vicious sexual assaults before moving on to far more horrific crimes – and they usually all share similar character traits identical to Chris. Redemption, forgiveness and acceptance have limitations – It’s interesting to see the other side of the coin, from a possible rational and somewhat well written point of view, but that doesn’t change what he did, and it doesn’t even remotely convince me that he will not do this again. Whatever demons are inside Chris can never be purged or euthanize’d. The monster inside him is simply dormant and hibernating. Rest assured no amount of therapy will ever slate the hunger of his inner demons, so don’t be fooled by a wolf disguised as a gentle soul with some artistic talent. Hollywood presents us with an image of what a man with his background should look like. In the real world monsters are far more difficult to spot. In Lake LA they’re easy to spot though, and as far as I am concerned, these inconveniences that Chris must endure on a daily basis is chump change compared to what he should have to endure, and certainly not equal to what his victims had to endure. The only thing this man can do on this planet to achieve the status of an ‘honorable’ person is to stop breathing and simply depart this earth. I offer no apologies for stating that. Ultimately, if only God can judge man then I say Chris should speed up the process and skip to the front of the line. Sounds harsh, and NO I am not free of sin, but my list of sins don’t include rape and sexual assault. If lack of empathy for a monster like Chris is considered a sin in the eyes of some people, well, I will be judged for that when it’s my time. I can validate my concerns. I somehow feel Chris is going to have a little more explaining to do on judgement day. You should interview some of his victims as well and see if they feel that the new and improved ‘gentle soul’ Chris deserves to be treated better by society. I must say I admire your bravery though. I’d imagine that this was a very difficult piece to write on such a controversial topic and person, however you probably should of thought it through a little better. Your target audience is the ‘tormentors’ that need to ‘support’ his continued success so that we can all be on the same winning team – Yet you failed to consider that his victims and their families are no doubt going to read this too, and your neophyte approach to journalism will no doubt settle on the stomachs of most with the same soothing relief that one might get after guzzling a beaker of sulfuric acid while watching a slideshow of his artistic watercolor paintings.

  44. Is this guy or person for real? If you want to buddy with him them do so. But do not expect anyone to raise the flag with you and open him with open arms. I would do that for a vet or anyone else. But if you do the crime you must pay the time and reputation that comes with it. I dont care if he is a man of god! Which by the way I have seem are bigger crooks too. A gentle soul? Did all of his victims feel the same way? I live in the community and I cannot wait for him to get the hell out of here. Maybe you can leave with him too. Seeming you have a compassion with him. Or maybe you will feel the same way if it was one of your loved ones that went through it. I dont care about any program they go through. He is a RAPIST! Maybe you would like to shack with Charles Manson or some of his kind I also heard they found GOD..If it was up to me I would make him feel uncomfortable and not open none of our business doors for him lock him out of our comfort zone. Help him out to get out. It must of been a judge that had your attitude that brought him here to our nest in the desert. Now I have to explain the NO LAKES and yeah we are home to the pillow rapist. GREAT WAY TO HAVE A REP FOR A COMMUNITY. If you want to be his bed buddy then that is on you but I dont lay with snakes and I hope this community sees the BS of this article. Yeah people could change but he had 40 times to think about that. Do I fear living in my home NO. cause I dont care if he comes up my driveway for sugar . I will protect my home with out discrimination. This reporter must be on drugs or lonely cause to mention he paints. If i am not mistaken So did Manson and Hitler. Does this make me a bad person cause I support the constant harassment he gets.Hell Yeah! If possible they should do it more! I WANT HIM OUT! I WAS NOT ASKED! Some Cholo with out a cause or care gave the house for rent. Another low life helping a lowlife. So much money is spent on him. Yet the government does not care about the community or our feelings on the subject. I hope the terror never stops till he leaves and when he does I hope you do too!!!!!

  45. She researched this until she was blue in the face and found no way? Guess what there is a way CA Penal Code 3003.5(c) allows cities and counties to make further residential restrictions. Write a letter or call and ask Mr. Hickling to convey to Michael Antonivich to support a county ordinance that would have a secondary retroactive effect of removing a sexually violent predator from a community that lacks the necessary safeguards to ensure pubic safety CALL (661) 726-3600
    Antelope Valley
    1113 W. Avenue M-4, Suite A
    Palmdale, CA 93551
    (661) 726-3600
    Norm Hickling, Field Deputy

  46. And yet for all the sincerity he exhibited, not one indicator of remorse or understanding that he did wrong, just an understanding why others are upset.

    Evil is evil, and you can’t hide that behind charges of sensationalism. The sentence he received was unjust and unfair to the women and families of those women who still carry scars from his behavior.

    The author is exhibiting signs of obsession. Going to his mother’s estate sale? Bringing him a painting? Calling him “Chris” instead of Mr. Hubbart or even Christopher? Creepy.

    I don’t condone harassment, nor is name calling of Mr. Hubbart productive or positive in any way. But there’s absolutely no way that “we all share in Chris’ success.” We’re only scarred by his repeated moral failures. And there’s no way a community should be expected to ever embrace a man who has repeatedly and un-remorsefully violated so many people.

  47. Well Carmen if you feel so strongly about him why don’t you have him move in with you and your family. That would save us taxpayers on the rent for his current place. Now that’s a start!

  48. I’M not sorry to say I wont be at the meet & greet Chris gathering. for my family we will not be going to any IHop restaurants in the future either. This tax paying family has no desire to support such a slap in the face to all the victims.Yep come have coffee with Chris!
    What are you thinking, that the community wants to have a welcoming party. Count us OUT!!!!!

    • Actually IHOP declined to let the meeting take place. Let him get on with HIS life! Why? Because he sure as hell didn’t let those victims get on with their lives in peace. I’m sure many still don’t have peace, especially considering he’s been released. Who cares how long he stayed in the hospital after prison? Doesn’t mean he’s all better, just means he wasn’t subjected to temptation for longer. Now he’s out. How many of his victims live in a prison of their own minds and memories, nightmares, relationship problems, difficulty being intimate. If it wouldn’t further traumatize his victims I would love to hear how they are getting on with their lives.

  49. I don’t care of he has changed. He has changed the lives of over 40 women. Any money being spent on his care team and housing would be better spent on helping those women. They can never live the normal life he is striving for. He took something from then that they can never regain.
    Repeat offenders like this should not be allowed into society again,ever. Her had his chances and hurt other people while out.
    He has no place in our society ever again.
    Please think about his victims for a moment before you picture this animal learning to fly fish.

  50. People can and do change, however what he has done proves he is not one of those people. Something in him is NOT sane. The potential to harm others is still there. No amount of well wishing or wishful wanting will change that fact. The most dangerous people often APPEAR to be normal. Rape is one of the most violent crimes against women. One small step from murder, do not lose sight of that.

  52. You just put a baby face on a demon. This guy is capable of terrible things so let’s just make him a part of our community and write nice articles about him. Like the judge said in ‘My Cousin Vinny’: Are you on drugs???

        • I understand he made that statement in therapy prior to his release it’s in his medical evaluation.

          • Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t Therapy supposed to have a patient confidentiality? And why would his medical evaluation be public information?

          • ETP now where did I say I was more concerned with him and not the victims? I was just trying to get facts straight due to so many rumors going around. Thanks for the attempt at trying to put words in my mouth though.

          • ItsMe
            August 3, 2014 at 1:01 am
            ETP now where did I say I was more concerned with him and not the victims? I was just trying to get facts straight due to so many rumors going around. Thanks for the attempt at trying to put words in my mouth though.
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            You’re Welcome –
            Actually, no thanks is needed as I didn’t attempt to put words in your mouth; There was no need too; you pretty much did all of the work when you posted a question/statement about whether a convicted rapists medical evaluation and therapy records are of a confidential nature and as you stated:

            “And why would his medical evaluation be public information?”

            Well let’s take a look at ‘why his medical evaluation be public information’ …

            …Because he has been assessed and classified as a high risk sex offender, some of his medical evaluations are public record and wouldn’t fall under a protected class.

            The way you worded your statement can easily be misconstrued as it reads like a defense mechanism and concern over a leak of ‘sensitive’ information when one posts a question about whether or not a convicted rapists medical history is of a confidential nature.

            Even if it is/was, his criminal history certainly doesn’t fall under the HIPAA law, and having researched and read all about his priors I don’t feel one should even question the validity of whether or not his medical chart should be confidential.

  53. Great article. People can and do change. He chooses to be in a treatment program while 90% of other sex offenders don’t. It’s a start.

    • Very well-articulated point of view. I may not agree with all of it, but the author’s heart is in the right place. Hopefully she’s right. We should all live without fear and judgement in our homes.

      • Bigtop and letlow hopefully this rapist would of done this to one of your female family members instead of the victims see if you still live without judgement and would be willing to give this person a second

        • To wish rape on ANYONE is down right RUDE. How dare you tell these two people that. Do you think the victims are sitting there wishing it on others? NO so why don’t you keep your nasty RUDE comments to yourself.

          • Itsme you dum@$$ , you prove one of many points. This not nasty nor rude its terribly wrong for someone to rape, and later be given the oportunity to be free, if you thought rape was ok you would of not replied, you would of not felt so disturbed on me; so called wishing this act on them you realized that this is a despicable act, and should not exist nor happen thats why you defend them from this act.
            get you thoughts right, why would anyone want to defend this scum or give him another chance . . .

          • You ignorant moron. I DID NOT say anything about supporting rape. Open your eyes and read what you posted. You do not agree with what these two people said so you said “hopefully this rapist would of done this to one of your female family members instead of the victims”. Oh my lord are you a dumb one. You are the one who clearly supports rape since you want it to happen to other people. You sick sick SICK person.

    • It’s important to remember what this man is capable of and note that he is placed in an area that has no permanent police presence or emergency hospital care facility to adequately and timely respond to the unique threat that a sexually violent predator poses. Lake LA residents would have to be driven over 40 miles to reach a hospital. Given that he has violated 43+ women, was released and re-offended, it is not unreasonable to be concerned and afraid for your community. Whether you believe he is “cured” or “on-the-mend” appropriate safeguards and infrastructure should be in place (permanent police presence emergency hospital care) for public safety. None of these things exist for the community of Lake Los Angeles.

      • 1) this guy lives in the middke if no where with 24 hour security…how the heck is he supposed to get to your house? Fly?
        2) this guy has been in treatment over 20 years. It seems there are quite a few people who can benefit from therapy like that.
        3) displaying such anger has not helped or changed the situation thus far. Why not start learning how to prevent instead of how to react.

        • 3) displaying such anger has not helped or changed the situation thus far. Why not start learning how to prevent instead of how to react.

          *************************************
          In response to #3 – The reaction and the prevention method(s) are quite simplified via my addition to your 3 pointless ‘statements’ – Here’s #4:

          4) Exterminate him.

          A simple and cost effective solution that incorporates a simple and foolproof method that guarantees prevention of any future attacks by this piece of human feces. It simply baffles and disgusts me that anyone would even dare to even entertain the notion that this man has ‘changed’ and that we as a ‘responsible’ and non-barbaric society should give him a second chance via forgiveness and acceptance.

          I don’t care if he urinates holy water now , it doesn’t change what he did, is capable of doing nor certainly doesn’t change who he truly is. It’s not even about what ‘he was’ or ‘what he did’ – It’s about who ‘he is’ and what ‘he does’ – He’s a sadistic and evil person. We are not talking about some idiot that made a ‘bad decision’ in a drunken stupor when he was a youngster; this man is a flat out, straight up evil and sadistic predator and no amount of therapy, confinement, or divine awakening/spiritual revival can or will ever change who he is or what he DOES.

          To defend such a dark character and chastise people for being genuinely concerned and then turn around and have the gall to preach about the benefits of therapy and essentially suggest that society cut him a break and give him the benefit of the doubt and wipe the slate clean is disturbingly dark and unsettling. Of course he’s a nice guy. Probably always has been. He lulls people in and gets them to drop their guard. He wants to garnish sympathy and gain trust and does so with a level of extraordinary patience and a smile on his face. It’s nothing more than a game of sadistic chess for him and the equivalent to slowly weaving a web for his next fly to land in. He’s changed, right?

          This is an issue where I wouldn’t even dare suggest that any bleeding heart supporter test out the ‘new’ Chris by letting him near your wife or daughter; for me to even introduce and suggest that thought, even for emphasis in this debate would be in very poor taste and irresponsible on my part, so make no mistake: We as a society, more specifically as residents of the AV need not to even entertain even the slightest idea that there is a possibility that he might of ‘changed’ – Why in the hell would anyone want to even leave that to chance?

          Therapy and incarceration did no more to change this monster and convert him to a ‘normal’ person than going out and cutting off the rattle on a Mojave Green and proclaiming it less dangerous because it’s minus a rattle – It’s still a venomous and dangerous creature and needs to be treated accordingly because rest assured, it will strike again and anyone who thinks otherwise probably needs round the clock supervision too.

          The suggestion to ‘work’ with him is pathetic and insulting. As for the verbal harassment of Chris – name calling and harassment isn’t solving anything? Perhaps it might be a bit juvenile, but in this case I’m glad to see the community come together and take a stand and show that his presence is not welcome nor will it be accepted. The AV has long been the solution and end result and final destination of a political flush whenever someone like him needs to be purged. The septic tank is overflowing and people are not going to ignore it anymore. They are fed up and they have every right to be. Their voices are not going to die down and fade out and they shouldn’t be expected to or told to. I’m sure the brass in charge of this were banking that the controversy would subside quickly and fade out, and I’m glad they are being proven wrong. I will lend my support to anyone who wants to keep their presence known and make Chris’ life uncomfortable before I would EVER entertain the suggestion that we give him another ‘chance’ –

          Yes, people make mistakes. I’ve made my share of them. I’m rational and down to earth and would give (and have given) a drug addict, petty thief and ignorant youngster a second, third and forth chance. I’m able to forgive but we usually never forget, so we lock up the booze and valuables and hide the car keys because we know what the inevitable outcome will probably be – However this is a tad different to say the least.

          For a monster that preys on woman and enjoys every second of the thrill of the hunt, chase, stalk and final act, there should be nothing left to chance. No forgiveness. What Chris takes from his victims cannot ever be replaced or mended, and just like an addict he will always have an appetite for his narcotic of choice: stalking and preying on women. There will always be triggers and cravings and he’s repeatedly proven more than 3 dozen times that he is incapable of suppressing and controlling his sadistic thoughts and behavior.

          The twisted irony of Carmen’s piece of fiction is that in her attempts (deluded at best) to repair a monsters image and garnish sympathy for him, she uses a painting he did in an attempt to add credence to her case and his cause; however she must of glanced over the blatant fact that the painting she used was a portrait of a woman, which only further exemplifies just exactly where Chris’ thoughts are loitering. His art shows what’s on his mind and that by itself closes any further need to debate whether or not he is salvageable. Keep up the protests – The only state Chris and anyone like him should ever be welcomed in is a state of decomposition. Since he is an avid reader I have an appropriate title suggestion for his next read: Final Exit by Derek Humphry. It’s the only self help book that will ever truly benefit Chris and the society forced to ‘learn to accept’ him and his faults.

          • AWESOME! As I sat hear reading a Carmen’s ramble and pity for this repeat rapist, I was astounded to find comments in pitiful agreement. This man raped not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 women, he raped 43 plus women. After the first or second victim one may be inclined to give a this type of a sick person some help but, not after 43 or more. RIDICULOUS! And now he wants to submit a picture of a young girl that he painted all by himself as a gesture of what? Forgiveness, repentant s, sorrow? Bull. I more inclined to think it’s his desired look for next victim. “Look here, if you match this picture, you may be my next victim”. I absolutely do not agree with giving this man a chance to live free. LOCK HIM UP!!!

          • Sorry, I got so involved in my response, I forgot to mention why I said Awesome. The remark “AWESOME” is for solution #4 above. Well thought out and covers many of my thoughts. Exterminate! A bit harsh but come on, 43 plus rapes. Unacceptable.

        • Listen “none” this “24 hour security” is not permanent…then what? We have no safeguards. As for your suggestion on learning how to prevent…we are…by lobbying our local leadership to further restrict placement of sexually violent predators. I do not accept and all the protesters expressly reject the bogus proposition that successful reintegration = lower recidivism. We do not believe we need to be held hostage to the mental well being of these seriously deranged individuals. If they are not well they shouldn’t be released. If they can’t handle negativity without fear of relapse; they shouldn’t be released. I do not believe there is enough therapy in the world that can “cure” the deviant mind of a sexually violent predator…

    • bigtop

      This disgusting waste of a human life didn’t “choose” to be in a treatment program. He is required to go to therapy just like he is required to be on probation and required to wear a gps monitoring system.

  54. After meeting with Chris I realize what a gentle soul he is. He paints! Let’s just welcome him to the community and all work together to help Chris! Also, that painting is very creepy and if this woman can’t see that she’s willfully blind.

    • She researched this until she was blue in the face and found no way? Guess what there is a way CA Penal Code 3003.5(c) allows cities and counties to make further residential restrictions. Write a letter or call and ask Mr. Hickling to convey to Michael Antonivich to support a county ordinance that would have a secondary retroactive effect of removing a sexually violent predator from a community that lacks the necessary safeguards to ensure pubic safety CALL (661) 726-3600
      Antelope Valley
      1113 W. Avenue M-4, Suite A
      Palmdale, CA 93551
      (661) 726-3600
      Norm Hickling, Field Deputy

    • After meeting with Chris????gentle soul?? Help Chris….who are you?
      He Is A Disgusting
      Sick animal….

      • Everyone on this page is acting like a disgusting animal….

        many people might not agree with the author but everyone is different in my opinion. what all of those protestors are doing outside of his house is just plain stupid. what is that going to do? oh its going to prove how everyone is acting like animals and taking time out of their day to go outside of a mans house that has guards, that lives in the middle of nowhere. whoo-hoo good job to those protestors. keep up the “Good Work”.

        • Why thank you for your words of encouragement…we will keep up the good work. The disgusting animal by the way is in that house not anyone commenting on here…we aren’t the ones who violated over 43 women…how many people need to be violated for you to consider CH a disgusting animal? Unlike CH, when a normal healthy person is upset they use their words…what does he do? We are using our words. Go ahead tag us as animals by all means…call us names…we will still continue to exercise our first amendment rights and demand everyday that our local leadership enact legislation and ordinances to safeguard the pubic! What by the way are you doing to ensure your community is protected? Oh, nothing of course.

          • So are we supposed to bow down to your feet because you are out there at all hours of the day and night screaming your heads off? It’s bad enough that our tax dollars are paying for him to live there but wow don’t you all have jobs to get to or are our tax dollars supporting your hissy fits in front of his house? Lets also discuss the pillow cases being worn out there. Now why in the heck would you wear them like a cape? Is he some super hero to you? And what about the young children who are out there having to listen to you all and learn so early on what rape is. Such fragile minds having to hear such filth. I do not want CH out here but there is no way I would be putting myself out there in front of his house for him to see. And why do you all always act like people other than you aren’t doing anything? Do you have some magical power that makes you know all? How about you get in your cars, go home and spend family time with your family. For something so serious you all sure look like you are having a party out there. Oh and do you think getting spot lights out there will scare him away?

        • Give the author a Pulitzer then – If my valid level of skepticism and lack of optimism in regards to whether or not a serial rapist with 40+ credits to his name is now a changed man on a mission to redemption makes me the disgusting animal, then so be it. Even if he is truly born again, it doesn’t erase his past, and regardless of how he lives the rest of his days, his actions are unforgivable. Mental illness, the system, the courts, it doesn’t matter. Yes the system is a dismal failure too, but to hell with the idea that we all need to forgive and bond over a rapists reintroduction back into society. We have too many good people that need assistance. Call me crazy, but maybe instead of praising a rapists sincerity and watercolor skills we should shift that love and forgive thy neighbor mentality and show 1/4 of the hospitality to our men and women when they come back from the middle east with more pressing burdens on their mind. I don’t have any warm feelings or hope for a man that gets an atta boy and pat on the back for every 24 hours that he is able to refrain from committing a violent sexual assault.

        • Anon…
          What is stupid to you is worthwhile to another. Further, I think the protesters have had an effect in terms of leggislation and perhaps showing that the community won’t accept this. It’s a non-violent protest against a serial rapist. I don’t have a problem with what they are doing.

          • Obviously the writer of this article re-enforces the real fact sex offenders are notorious “groomers”.

            I find one glaring aspect of this worthless article, not once does the writer mention the “victims” of this guy.

            In as much as the writer wants us to “shed a tear” for this criminal, one must look at the big picture. In a healthy society PEOPLE DONT DO THESE CRIMES, I dont much give a damn if someone broke his GI JOE when he was a kid, none the less, he is damaged, and I’ll bet you a thousand bucks, he is “damaged” by some freak who was allowed back into the community, by some bleeding heart as is the writer of this peice. Dysfunction is generational and its its just pure stupidity that society or some segments of it really think we can turnstile these people back out to become productive worthwhile citizens.