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Reminder: No ATV riding in Acton, Agua Dulce

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The Palmdale Sheriff’s Station has an off-road enforcement team that dedicates over 48 hours a month to the Acton/Agua Dulce area. (Photo courtesy LASD)
The Palmdale Sheriff’s Station has an off-road enforcement team that dedicates over 48 hours a month to the Acton/Agua Dulce area. (Photo courtesy LASD)

PALMDALE – It is illegal to ride all-terrain vehicles in Acton and Agua Dulce, and those caught doing so will be cited for off-road trespassing, Palmdale Sheriff’s Station officials warn.

“Every year the Palmdale Sheriff’s Station receives hundreds of calls for service regarding illegal riders, mainly in the Acton/Agua Dulce area. Many of these riders are individuals who live in these communities,” stated Palmdale Community Relations deputy Jodi Wolfe. “This is a very upsetting situation for the residents of the Acton/Agua Dulce area because ATV riding in these two communities [is] prohibited. The land is either privately owned or owned by utility companies; therefore riding in these areas is illegal.”

The Palmdale Sheriff’s Station has an off-road team, which is funded by a grant through the state and county Department of Parks and Recreation. These deputies are assigned to patrol these areas and look for illegal riders.

Generally, the team dedicates more than 48 hours a month to the Acton/Agua Dulce area and contacts between 10-20 people during its shift, according to Wolfe.

“If you are on an ATV and stopped, you will be cited for riding in a non-designated area, pursuant to 15.68.020 of the Los Angeles County Code– off-road vehicle trespassing,” Wolfe stated. “We are asking the public to please refrain from riding in non-designated riding areas.”

For information on areas that have been designated in Southern California, visit www.ohvguide.com.

For other questions or concerns, contact Deputy Jodi Wolfe at 661-272-2520 or email jewolfe@lasd.org.

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[Information via press release from the Palmdale Sheriff’s Station.]

119 comments for "Reminder: No ATV riding in Acton, Agua Dulce"

  1. Ewww… wont be buying any real estate near Aqua Dulce with all this bickering and nanny state crap.

  2. So they ride motorcycles around in the desert to make sure people aren’t riding motorcycles around in the desert? sounds ’bout right.

  3. Just stopped by AV Times to see if anything has changed. Nope, AV is still a combination of Mayberry, North Korea, and a George Bush family reunion. Good day to you.

    • the AV is a pretty nice place except for the Boss Hogg mayor of Lancaster who is a bully and megalomaniac. Good people here for the most part once you get past him.

  4. Thanks for all you do for our area. Ignore the naysayers, they will be the ones you will be citing or arresting next week.

  5. The OHV team are doing a great job with the resources they have. They are not simply out joyriding or trying to spoil dirt bikers fun.

    Responsible OHV riders know where they can and cannot ride. The rest are lawless, disrespectful thugs who blatantly disregard others rights. Hikers and horse people should NOT have to endanger themselves to put up with illegal activity. PERIOD. There are sufficient areas to ride legally if some dirt bikers weren’t simply so LAZY and got up a bit earlier to trailer to legal areas.

    Were I not a horse owner I would love to dirt bike as a hobby. I ride a street bike at the moment. I would NEVER disrespect others or ride illegally. I would NEVER endanger others or infringe upon their peace and safety. However, some dirt bike riders would. You few are the reason this task force is needed. I will continue to vote, write and support the OHV team who do a wonderful job.

    Additionally, as a property owner no one has the right to disturb my peace as I don’t have the right to disturb someone elses peace. I respect others rights and it doesn’t take too much consideration or brain power for others to do the same. Just because I own property doesn’t give me the right to make unnecessary noise at all hours of the day and night (up to midnight in some cases).

    Keep on with the behavior and we will keep on filming and reporting you. You want to end up in court with a criminal record? Keep up the behavior as we as property owners will not give up.

  6. All the people complaining now about the Sherriff’s Department having an off road team is ridiculous. You know they’ve had this team for over 10 years and they’ve done nothing but good in those years, so quit your whining. If you don’t like cops, poor you. There are enough people out there who do respect them and see the GOOD they do for the Antelope Valley.

    • This is really not about bashing sheriffs as it is a call for them to meet with the community and discuss. It seems to me there is an overwhelming input from this fourm that the program is not wanted and the problem is citations being given out by the sheriff not riders enjoying the outdoors.They should educate riders on being safe and keeping to dirt trails being respecful to neighbors and horse riders and try not to destory virgin ground. Sheriff approach to AV community is wrong Sheriff Daughter.

      • Jason,

        Your wrong, why is it the Sheriffs job to educate disrespectful riders the form is just a bunch of people that are too lazy to ride where it’s legal. For as long as I can rember its been illegal in LA County. It’s also commen sense you don’t ride on some else’s property, ride in parks, speed past people walking or rideing horses. When anyone operates a motorized vehicle they are to know the rules. Stupid is stupid does perhaps the parents that purchase these for their kids educate the kids as well as educate themselves. It’s always someone else’s fault when it comes to ingnorance

        • im going to start riding my plated dirt bike around the houses of people like you and wait for the sheriffs dept to show up and not be able to do anything. the funding for this is misplaced. how about they open more riding areas instead of paying for maintenance on the police bikes and to pay the officers? it would be a better use of the money and be a long term solution. the police are still riding through those areas that they’re telling other people not to ride through. how does that make sense?

          • Great idea about other riding areas. How about quit whining and pouting like a child and get a petition going and raise some money to fund and buy another OHV area. Are not Rowhler Flats and Jawbone Canyon near enough for you? No? So riding around making more noise is a better idea than working to truly resolve the problem? How immature are you?

      • Jason,

        Dirt Bike riders know the laws. They KNOW their behavior is illegal. How many warnings should one get for flagrantly violating the law and endangering others?

  7. Wow, of all the problems in the av we got extra money for this? Lets take a stroll down ave I or beach street…at 1am, nothing can go wrong right, so lets just send our badass sheriffs out to bust kids on dirtbikes, because that’s where all the crime is.
    We have meth labs on every block, somebody gets shot every week (gang related) but there’s no revenue in that, is there?

    • Wow meth on every block that I have not seen , what part of town do you live in. Beach and ave I for as long as I have lived here (1984) has been a dump don’t like it don’t go. Also you whine a lot

      • “Also, you whine a lot” Irony? Danny you have whined about every comment that doesn’t agree with yours. I don’t have a problem with cops. I do have a problem with them using Green Sticker money to fund this.

  8. It comes down to a handful of stupid riders it only takes one to bring it down. Tearing up a moutain next to a trail that’s already their making a new line right true someone’s property. Running up on people walking and dusting them out riding in state, county and city parks all these areas are posted no riding. Just curious how all the Palmdale sheriffs are going to patrol Acton and the AV. Same happens out hear these idiots from the housing tracks ride true the track at high speeds tear up the walking and biking trails mainly at Warrick Park yes it’s a park. Time and effort goes into making these trails and the idiots come in and tear them up its a big desert go somewhere else really no one wants to hear or see your crappy dirt birt bike. Also the wildlife is back from the big fire and you guessed it the dirt bikes chacee it off tearing up the habitat.

    Cops can get them pretty easy they come up P-12 behind Highland, the drainage tunnel that goes under the Aqua Duct by the Godde parking area and from that track or the trail behind the moble home park by Greg Anderson.

      • av citizen,

        Well I don’t hate dirt bikes in fact have rode the for years, no I don’t dump you may but I dont I turn them in when I see them. It’s called respect when out on the trail which a few don’t have and that’s all it takes to bring it down. I’m glad their out to keep the trash out like you.

  9. If this is truly about trespassing, then don’t the same rules apply to horse people? I’ve lived in Agua Dulce for 27 years. When I was younger, my dirt bike was not just good clean fun, it was also my mode of transportation. That was the beauty of living in “the country”. You could do that type of thing without worry. In the 27 years I’ve been out there, I have only had one incident with people riding motorcycles on my property without permission. But, if I had a dollar for every time I had people on horseback ride through my property (and $10 for every horse turd left), I could pay off my mortgage. What this really comes down to is a couple things; horse people that don’t like dirt bikes and folks from the valley who have moved out there within in the last ten years or so to get away from the hustle and bustle. It’s BS.

    • those people from the valley are the ones that dont understand what living in the desert is about. theres nothing else to do. what do people expect? if theres nowhere to ride then people will find their own place. not everyone can go to jawbone or pay the fees associated with it. these are the same people that move next to an airport and complain about the planes…

      • So being poor is an excuse for illegal activity? Go get a job. Go to college with that extra time they have on their hands. The same could be said for burglary, robbery, vandalism and theft. Why on earth would you condone illegal, disrespectful behaviour simply because they don’t have the “day fee” for an OHV area. THey can afford a BIKE but not a day fee. What a ridiculous statement to make.

        • you must not like poor people. this is the second comment i have seen you post about somebody not having money.. just shut up. and do us all a favor. im assuming that you are a yuppy swamp donkey that calls the police every chance she gets, huh? well , this isnt kansas city. this is california. people here have dirtbikes, just like “yer pawpaw” has cows/horses and all that other stuff. get real lady. open your eye’s

    • Jay,

      Take a look around. This hasn’t been “country” for 40 years. The homes are nearly right on top of each other.

      I like dirt biking. However, in legal areas only. Same goes for hiking or horse back riding. I can’t legally ride my horse anywhere I want. I can’t trespass on my neighbors property. However, I can and do ask for permission and most of the time am granted it. I don’t make any noise and disturb as little as I possibly can. I stay in the same tracks as other horses. I take a garbage bag and pick up garbage along the way.

      The answer is not a them vs us mentality. The answer is living together using the same resources. This is why dirt bike areas were created. There are legal dirt bike trails in acton where horses are not allowed. Horses are not allowed at Rowhler Flats or Jawbone Canyon.

      If more OHV areas are wanted, get together and sign a petition. Raise Funds. Get the support of legislators. Once legal us horse people can’t do a thing.

    • GREAT POINT I WAS THINKING THE SAME. IM GOING THRU ESCROW AND I HAVE HORSES AND DIRT BIKES I FIGURED I CAN ENJOY BOTH WORLDS BUT I DIDNT DO MY RESEARCH BEFORE HAND ABOUT THIS DIRTBIKE CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

  10. This sounds like a real ” Mexican Standoff” except both sides are aggressive. I say stop the cops at their own game. If you are a private landowner and you don’t want your land being patrolled by the Sherrif, then file a small claims case against the individual officer as a private citizen. Clog up their courts whether or not you win you have conscientiously objected by exercising your civil right to use the court system. Make the law work for you, not against you.
    If you are a landowner and your family members like to ride, then all of you private landowning families should trade permission papers so all your families can ride on all each other’s properties!
    Together we stand, divided we fall. Stand and deliver by beating them at their own game!!!!!!

    • Lizzy,

      Why do you think the task force was created? Land owners expressed themselves and are tired of illegal riding across our property. We are tired of posting signs which are ignored. We are tired of filming the perpetrators and calling the Sheriff’s. They didn’t simply create the OHV task force on a whim.

      Simply because you back the other horse in the race doesn’t mean it isn’t logical.

      Good luck trying to get private land owners to give permission letters for dirt bikers to ride across their property. There are so few I would bet this would not happen.

      I like dirt bike riding and most dirt bikers I’ve met are nice and respectful. One even stopped his bike and let me walk my horse past him, even though he was riding illegally. I didn’t report him. However, the others who flip me off as I walk or ride by or who flip me off as I film them riding across my posted no trespassing signs on my property…them I will report.

      If you own the property it’s your choice. If dirt bikers don’t like it let them buy property and do what they want with it, within noise limits.

  11. List of things the police should be doing in our community that matter (way) more than motorcycle riders.

    Drug related crimes
    Gang activity
    Vandalism
    Illegal dumping

    I would be at the least a possible glimmer of positive hope that funds were appropriated correctly if this story centered around any one of these things as opposed to citing motorcycle riders. Motorcycle riders don’t need to be on other peoples private property as much as any others including horse riders and people on foot. I believe the stigma against motorcycle riders is only an opportunity for law enforcement to guarantee the civil aptitude to get revenue.

    If this story had anything to do with finding and citing people dumping I would applaud the use of off road vehicles. It is only embarrassing and absurd to witness the encouragement of officers to play cat and mouse with people attempting to adventure around the desert on their motorcycles.

    As far as numbers go, there is a vastly higher number of people on foot and horse and dumping in the desert than people riding motorcycles. It even adds insult to this when you see the tax dollars we provide funding this gang of riders. I don’t know of anyone getting notice either of local police and their intentions to violate our privacy and trespass on our land to do this function.

  12. Pretty rediculous.

    So are we championing this “project” to help rid our deserts ofoto rider with robin gangs of moto riders? How does Sierra club feel about a bunch of cops on bikes tearing up the desert?

    Beware trespassing even and especially police trespassing on my land. Without a warrant there is no right a law enforcement officer should be on private property.

    This is a real embarrassing story to read knowing the REAL issue is illegal dumping. What I really see here is a perk given to local police to have a day riding around busting moto riders and avoiding tough issues like drug related crimes and other more pressing problems our desert communities have.

    Drug crimes
    Illegal dumping
    Vandalism
    Gang activity

    One thing I see is that they can’t get revenue from the above issues. They know they can get money out of some poor kid riding his dirtbike… PATHETIC.

    • Get the land owners written permission and then when the sheriff dirt bike cops stop you tell them to pack sand.

    • Ben

      Were you a private property owner dealing with illegal trespassing by dirt bikes you might have a different perspective.

      Enforcement is all about need and vocalizing that need.

      Mark is correct. If you have the property owners permission you can ride. However, make sure your bike is legal and has a spark arrester and legal muffler and does not exceed the approved decibel level…then you are fine.

      Simply because this issue is not “your problem” doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem. Think bigger, expand your horizons and put yourself in someone else’s shoes. There are a lot of social issues which need attention.

      We in Acton address the issues you have raised. We report them. Reporting is the key. What have you reported lately?

  13. You live in a desert area, horses are illegal and OHV’s witch is [removed], every rider that rides by a horse usually slows down, or didn’t have time because he didnt see you, cops are a problem why should they get the freedom to ride all day? Why not put marked ohv and horse trails up?? Land owners put signs up, every cop on a bike can’t out run the bikes most ppl ride anyways. This whole thing is dumb its a free country I’ll ride where I want and if a cop comes up behind me there jus gonna see a cloud of dust, you don’t like it put a fence up or signs or move back to where you came from.

    • Mike,

      I wish you were the guy next to me when I rode my horse. NOT everyone stops. I saw a guy do rooster tails around a horse once when the rider motioned to him to stop. Luckily, no one was injured.

      I post signs on my property. Many dirt bikers simply ignore them. If all riders were like you perhaps we wouldn’t have or need an OHV team. Unfortunately, many riders ARE NOT LIKE YOU. Look down, grab your ears and pull. This is the real world not just your little gold fish bowl

      That’s why I video tape EVERY illegal OHV rider I see. We are building evidence files of their gear, bikes, etc. They may ride through now but when they are ultimately caught and pulled over…guess what…hard to say it wasn’t me the last 5 times they were caught on video. Keep coming Mike….we will meet soon.

  14. In a just world – Those same cops would ride off trail…on private property…make noise and dust while tearing up the ‘exact’ same ground of those who they ‘serve and protect’ to write citations, fines and threats of imprisonment while pointing their guns and tazers at those on horseback who are trespassing on PRIVATE PROPERTY…spreading hoof and mouth disease, parasites, worms, flies etc…and also their LOOSE DOGS who might bite and attack, kill or mame innocent children…yeah-you asswipes better be doing all of your job not just selective enforcement of what makes you money…

  15. 15.68.040 Possession of written permission required by vehicle operator.
    Every person who operates any type of motor vehicle upon the private property of another or upon any public property except a highway or private street, at all times while so operating shall maintain in his possession the written permission required by this chapter, except that if the same document grants such permission to two or more persons, a person named in such document need not have such document in his possession while another person named in the same document, riding in the same group, and not more than 300 feet from such person, has such document in his possession.

  16. It’s those same MORONS who buy a house right next to the airport that’s been there for 50 years, and start complaining about the noise….*rolling eyes*. Why do you think people want(ed) to move to Acton/AD ?? BECAUSE YOUR KIDS CAN RIDE ATV’s AROUND…instead of sitting in front of the video game crack box… Acton/AD has been an area to ride since the 60’s…due your homework… aka due diligence BEFORE you move in next to an ATV riding area…and start making problems that didn’t exist before YOU moved to town…
    ATV’S in ACTON/AD were not not a problems in the 60’s…or the 70’s….or the 80’s…or the 90’s….and NOW all of a sudden they are terrorists that need a team of ass wipes in costumes pointing guns at them ?

  17. Hey

    Its all about controll the police, cant controll gangs, molsters, and drunks, so pick on kids, and fun adults, but they were kids once , know these cops that ride, are dumb, they did this yrs ago, they need to protect the streets, not give them a fun lazy ass job, be a cop not a baby sitter

  18. Enough of the citations! There are places where it is legal to ride and places where it’s not. Start confiscating the ATVs, sell then at auction, and give the money to the property owner whose property rights are being violated. That should teach the riders to distinguish between the two places real quickly.

      • lady ? LADY ? THAT’S AND MAHN BABAY! or at least one trying to be as close to a man as…well..ehww…yeah that’

        • That looks like Jeff to the left of her. He and his brother grew up dirt bike riding all over Palmdale, but times have changed and population has increased since then. There are to many people and to many dirt bike riders to continue to look the other way when it comes to private property. The fact is they should cite anyone with a motor vehicle of any type riding/driving on private property without the owners permission.

    • So we can arrest the people on horses riding on private property as well, don’t just single out the people with a motor, horseback riders are braking the same law

    • OK then with this train of thought we should be selling horses and bicycles and if someone is on foot they should be jailed possibly? I also see people on 4×4 vehicles as well out there, lets get rid of those trucks and jeeps etc. And can I confiscate a police vehicle for violating my rights as a land owner?

      Lets just give the police the right to take everything from us and sell at auction. I believe that will teach everyone the lesson they need to learn for everything everywhere.

      Are you perhaps law enforcement or a auction owner?

  19. If you want to get back at horse owners just go to the 49’ner and call the cops when they leave and report them DUI. Many are a bunch of drunks.

  20. The Sheriff’s Dept. needs to patrol out here in the field adjacent to 57st. West and Ave.J-8. I didn’t buy a house in the Antelope Valley so I could live next to a field with a bunch of jerks racing their all day long.!

    • A phone call to the sheriff station when the jerks are there racing will get them all cited. You might be disappointed though when you find out one of them owns the property.

    • Says the tool that bought the house when you could clearly see the dirt bike trails all over the field. Gotta love it when jerks like you move in and think the whole world needs to accommodate you.

      • Yep, I pay the mortgage, the taxes, the insurance, and work my ass off to pay for it all. I have the right to enjoy MY land as I see fit, and that means you have to stay the hell off of it. Where the hell do you guys get this “I can do whatever I want!”attitude? I don’t give a damn if you’ve been riding there for a hundred years, YOU have to follow the law, and based on the attitude I get from dirtbikers and atv’rs I WOULD be in fear for my life if I confronted one tresspassing on my land. 90 percent of you are disrespectful, belligerent, and make threats by voice or with your vehicle. I’ve started pinning people down with my rifle until the sherrif gets here. I fear for my safety and that of my family and residence, and I citizens arrest.

    • Motorcycles wouldn’t be my first worry out in Prisonview Estates. Just wait until the valleys homeless move into the old hospital. You might want to sell now.

  21. Please put an end to this Bad community Program A.V. that does nothing but cause trouble at cost us money.

    First the sheriff should get input from community. I believe the vast majority of citizens probably dont care about ATV’s in Acton or AV. But because they where awarded a grant they need to show results to get more funding and guarantee this perk.

    They where out Easter Sunday citing people & families fines. Each patrol person riding a motorcycle made about $500 that day. They where riding like a bat out of hell and could of hurt themselves creating liability costing taxpayers. Government against the people making trouble and profiting for themselves, come on sheriff’s dept It’s not right – bad policy. Seriously can’t ride a dirt bike in the desert on a dirt road????

  22. I have lived out here for 26 years I have dirt bikes 4x4s and horses.in fact I work in a horse related business. It is not OK for these cops to be harassing people on “atv’s” I grew up out here I know first hand what a 16 year old does because they can’t ride or have something to do other than get drunk or high. When they started this ban is when drugs became a issue.and for you on horses it is your own fault someone hauls ass by you or revs their engine. I ride and train horses and I can say I have never had a problem. You are the problem think about it if I push you what are you going to do I’m sure you are going to push back it is the same thing so maybe next time don’t be a dick just ask for respect and 95% of the time you will get it back

  23. Good thing my offroad trucks are registered for the street, I can offroad all I want in Acton and they can bitch all they want the cops can’t ticket me :) just tell me to leave the area :) than I go back the next day! Hahahaha so stupid

  24. what don’t some of these people understand about private property? I should not have to fence or post my land to keep people I do not want on my land

    • So it’s easier to call the cops and have them harass someone who doesn’t even know they are riding on private land? than simply post a $20 sign ? yeah…that makes perfect sense..NOT. Better to just let them think it’s public free open land…you’re a real winner.

      • No judge would side with you if you are not even willing to post a sign – I know this from fact. The burden of ownership is on you, not the unwitting rider who happens to cross ‘your’ supposed land border.

      • Except jerkoffs like you tear down my signs, my fence, release and scare my animals…. get the picture? It doesn’t work because offroaders don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves.

    • Do you know how stupid you sound???
      You shouldn’t have to put up a fence to keep people off your property???
      That’s what fences are for. If you don’t put up a fence then you aren’t a stick up your [removed] and you are cool with people…if you want private property…make it private. Get off of your high horse. You aren’t even tending to all of your land.

      • How about for those that own many acres? Perhaps it is not economically viable.
        How about those that enjoy wildlife roaming through? Fences can prevent several animals from being able to access the land, land that they may have trails on,trails that are often used by dirt bikers since it is a trail that they assume was made by a fellow dirt biker.
        If a fence is the only barrier you recognize then your viewpoint may be the problem. Go back east, lots of land, not fenced. Dirt bike riders respect the landowners though.

      • Brian,

        I own a number of acres which are not economically feasible to fence. However, I have put up no trespassing signs. Some respect them, some do not.

        Are you telling me that unless I fence my property off that I don’t have the right to post signs and enforce those who illegally chose to ignore them? Really?

        What if you owned 20 acres lets say. Would you want to spend $30,000 fencing it? What if you didn’t have the funds? What if it’s your choice to let horseback riders and hikers use it but not dirt bikes. Wouldn’t it be your choice to let your property be used for what you deemed it ?

        Think before you “speak”.

  25. What a joke. Acton sucks! Are riders really hurting anything? Or are there just a bunch of crybabies living there and asking the cops to harass people who are just enjoying the outdoors.

    • Actually they are hurting people. Action and Aqua Dulce are setup to be horse friendly communities. Every ATV and dirt biker I have EVER come across while on the trails does not yield to a horse and rider. In fact, they normally just go faster and make things far more risky and dangerous. So yes, the riders are making things worse and not being respectful and that’s why Action and Aqua Dulce made laws saying no more. Go play else where to play. Its the same reason mountain bikers got kicked of a lot of the mountain trails. They were being rude in general.

      • No, Acton is not a “Horse Only” community. I’ll tell this… I have both Horses and ATVs all around my house. I enjoy the waves, thumbs up and greetings from all. But I have yet to have a dirt bike rider stop and crap in my yard. Pick your horse $h!+ up the next time it takes a dump in my driveway or on my road!!!

      • Where is it written that “Action” and Agua Dulce were ‘setup’ to be horse friendly communities ? By who exactly ?
        Where do you get this crap ? oh…yeah…it’s not actually true and you’re just making it up…

      • Acton isn’t even neighbor friendly. These people screw up anything they get involved in.

        Hogs & Horses is another drunk fest that you can call the cops on and get horse owners arrested for DUI

    • Crybaby city folk where the cause of this garbage. I remember when the hordes of tools bags from Valencia started moving into town and all the complaints about dirt bikes came right after. Way to ruin the old way of life in Acton with your stupid yuppie nonsense.

  26. Just a way to waste our money. Law enforcement huh why ruin it for everyone trying to have fun. Just cannot believe what a waste this is when they can be going after people that are up to no good.

  27. I see those COPS all the time in agua dulce…I watch where they go, where they ride…EXACTLY where…NO ONE ELSE IS SUPPOSED TO RIDE….They are not patrolling specific problem areas of abuse trying to remedy the situation…..they are everywhere handing out fines and citations for anything and everything so they can falsely “justify” them being there = F A I L.

    • Anon,

      Let me enlighten you. Those COPS are helping me with a real problem person riding across my property at all hours of the day and night. (despite, signs, laws and a prior warning to the jerk) Those COPS are working hard for me to prosecute a rider right now. Those COPS are doing more than just riding around, having a good time and looking for people to cite.

      Keep in mind all COPS write tickets. This is revenue for the county and/or state. This is how they pay their salaries. If we as the public are not acting illegally…no one gets cited. If I am not speeding I can’t get cited for speeding can I? Otherwise I’m just a whiny baby, right?

  28. anyone else see the hypocrisy in that statement no riding all terrain vehicles dirt bikes motorcycles excetra but we license the police to set up patrols on private roads and trails isn’t it illegal for them as well they are riding the same vehicles destroying your land just patrolling they don’t even have to catch anybody they just do it but it’s legal for them and not for us residents to enjoy our own backyard wake up people if it’s illegal for one its a legal for all including the police..

    • Not illegal for the police because the landowners asked for them to come bust your ass for ridingn ILLEGALLY!! Go ride where you’re ALLOWED to be, an you won’t see a single cop…

    • Anyone else see the stupidity in questioning why the law is using the same vehicle as the criminals? Maybe because IT’S THE ONLY WAY TO CATCH YOU IDIOTS!! Ignorant AND argumentative… no wonder you can’t follow rules.

  29. COPS = MAKING MONEY for the city (.) They are NOT there to protect you (.) If you actually look up the legal and moral responsibility of LAW ENFORCEMENT ‘officers’ – it is NOT to protect you – The supreme court has codified this over and over…so..it makes me sick when someone is so ignorant as to state they are to protect or serve ‘you’…

    • They are protecting the lands of private citizens and companies at their request.
      In a funny way they are ‘serving’ you a citation. You have been served.

  30. There are NO “free” riding areas…+ they are all heavily enforced and over patrolled with several 3 letter agencies. ‘green sticker’ ‘red sticker’ etc. The majority of that money goes to CLOSING OFF and BLOCKING various areas from riding..it’s pathetic. I went to Gorman OHV area the other day to ride..and after driving an hour…and PAYING to GET IN…I found EVERY trail and road going into the forest was CLOSED. Snowy peak trail=CLOSED and blocked…. EVERY ONE was blocked for “reforestation”. Only the crappy sand rutted trails were “open”. I have never seen to many miles of fencing in one area. HALF of the actual valley was CLOSED for “reforestation” in an area designated specifically for OHV use…and paid for by those who paid red and green sticker money… F A I L. There were also at least 8 brand new trucks driving around – this was a weekday mind you. All of those ’employees’ were just driving around doing nothing…ALL have retirement and pensions and sick time and benefits paid for from RIDING AREA MONEY. F A I L.

    • Hi Anon.
      The areas are being reforested due to riders going off trail and tearing the place up. So other riders, not the state, took away your pretty scenic area rides by not staying on trail.
      Guess when Federal and State employees work. If you said weekdays and weekends you win a prize. They are not just there during the weekend because obviously people such as yourself are out there during the week days as well.
      I doubt they were just driving around in circles doing nothing at all. Next time feel free to stop one and ask what projects they are working on that day. It shows you actually care about your tax dollars, care about their jobs, and care about the riding area.

      • I have ridden ALL of the Los Padres trails extensively and have seen no evidence of any off trail riding so it sounds like you are just making stuff up.

        On the other hand, these trails get closed every year until snow is melted and trails are maintained so maybe call the frazier park forrest ranger and ask them when the trails will be opened and quit making stuff up.

      • Tearing up an area that is specifically set aside for….’tearing up’ ??? IT’S A RIDING AREA!! not a nature preserve! I saw more activity and effort trying to make it a nature preserve than I have making it a riding area…F A I L. Rowher Flats has had most of the mountain tops sections orange fenced and barbwired off…IN A RIDING AREA. Jawbone/kelso valley has more closed area that riding area…E V E R Y trail leading out of Gorman was fenced and wired shut E V E R Y one…. The riders fenced off these areas? uhhh..no..I saw NO off trail riding…anywhere.Tthe state, using MY money to keep area’s OPEN, have CLOSED the trails…
        I paid my green sticker money, and ALSO have to pay to use the area ??? no…it’s a cash cow….and all those scumbags .gov freeloaders are clearly milking it for all it’s worth.

  31. I have lived here over 18 years seen people come and go kids growing up here living the outdoor life doing stuff with there family be it riding motorcycles or horses or whatever, we all love our area so we use are surrounding some time somebody might get into a little trouble but problem gets solved . what I’m trying to say is if you look real close to all the rules around we are not even supposed to set foot in our wash be it horse human motorcycles we are not perfect but we over all have well rounded kids and folks in this town not perfect but very close. We have a lot more serious problem in this town and people and police don’t see it because it’s dark when they come out we have a tweeker problem meth heads drugies they walk around the streets at night lurking stealing from our hardware store ,our groceries store that’s when we need patrolling open your eyes to the tweekers in this town not when we are out enjoying nature and we get tickets. Redirect our patrolling for the evening not so much for the day take a drive at 3 am down crown valley looks like dawn of the dead from all the tweekers walking the streets .please people and officers let’s get our priorities straight I would much rather hear and see dirt bikes than a tweekers breaking in to my property stealing or possibly going to eventually hurt somebody in our town.

  32. I think all of ur concerns are write but as a motorcycle,horse and all other sports recreations we as a whole are letting the few Rouen it for all of us.if its ok in Kern and other counties why should la county be different theres alot of beautiful trails for all to share just punish the ones that are doing the damage and stop trying to make money off the ones enjoying the great out doors

  33. I would not want to be a Sheriff out there boy! Only matter of time before those dirt people pick one off with a rifle. Those people live out there cause the dirt is important to them to ride and shoot. You can keep that job of messing with people’s way of living. Some cop is getting killed that’s inevitable cause those people out there are crazy.

    • Are you stupid? This is not a new law, this is not new, this article is informing the public this it is illegal to ride off highway vehicles in the area and has been, if you want to ride, drive an hour to kern county and ride there. Its free! Jawbone, dove springs, just outside of California city. Lots of open free areas. Saying an officer is going to get shot, makes you sound stupid. Your jumping on the “lets hate cops” bandwagon. Nice! Well done sir.

      • there is NO free places to ride. green sticker and red sticker bs is in effect too. obviously you’re making up whatever you want…

    • Sounds like you have nothing but air between your ears. Most of the land in Acton and Agua Dulce are private lots, not public land.

  34. “It is illegal to ride all-terrain vehicles in Acton and Agua Dulce” ?? This is a rather misleading statement as many motorcycles are dual sport type “plated” off road bikes and legal for use on public roads and highways. Public lands are owned by the people and designated for USE by the people. Private land should be LEGALLY and clearly marked as such, and simply placing a sign on public land to intimidate and stop motorcycles from riding needs to be addressed. I doubt there are many people riding directly next to houses, obvious private land and/or fenced property. Many equestrians use the various local trails and dirt roads, and are obviously the ones not willing to share public land. The squeaky wheel is the one who gets greased…

    • I agree. There’s a difference between riding street legal dual-sports on roads and trails not marked as private or “no trespassing” and some jerk-wad riding his off-highway vehicle (motorcycle, quad, or whatever) where he shouldn’t. This should be clarified. As a dual-sport rider exploring roads and trails that are not explicitly labeled as private property, I shouldn’t be worried about citations when riding my plated XR650L around Acton/Agua Dulce. “It is illegal to ride all-terrain vehicles in Acton and Agua Dulce” can’t possibly be a valid statement.

    • It clearly states “The land is either privately owned or owned by utility companies; therefore riding in these areas is illegal.” This means if it is not marked private then it is owned by utility co. and still a no no. It seems pretty cut and dry to me: If it’s not your property Acton or Agua Dulce, stay off it with your ATV!

      • Most of the open land is private property. There may not be a house on that particular parcel you are riding on, but it is still private property. I do not want people riding on my land, especially if they get hurt, then I’m sure I will end up being liable. There are plenty of areas, like Rowher Flat, to ride in.

        • Your just one old bastard that has nothing better to do with your life then to harass younger Kids and families trying to show a better life for themselves then the rest of the pants sagging, meth addict, gang banging, troubled punks that are taking over this area in general. It gives them something more productive to do other then drugs. I’m sorry if you own property out in that area chances are you own or have owned a dirt bike, quad, or buggy at some point yourself or at least had friends that did. This valley has been a place to ride for many damn years and just as long as your horses have been around as well. In fact being born and raised in this area, most of them houses out there had both. I as a once previous employee for the utilities companies over a 40 year span, never have I heard or seen one company complaining about people riding on those areas your all crying about. So why don’t you let them call the cops if and when someone has gone to far and stuff is being destroyed. You don’t want them on your property for whatever reason, get off ur old crotchity ass and kindly ask them to leave. Chances are you probably already know their family anyway… Cuz guess what some of those people out their are part of families that have been out their much longer then even you. That’s right the same families that made this town what it is today and generation after generation include people (just using some off the top of my head and not part of any of them) Or the same people you got your damn hay from for years now, or the farmers that have been here as long as the dirt has been here. And guess what a lot of them had kids, grandkids that raced dirtbikes, worked on the properties and used motorcycles to do some of those tasks. So don’t sit here and tell me now it’s a problem. Let me guess, one of you cry babies is the old man out there that rides his quad out anytime someone goes onto enormous amount of open acres and tells everyone that he doesn’t mind you being out there shooting or riding horses or dirtbikes as long as you be respectful by hauling more of his trash out of the area then they brought in. Which for years we’ve respected that and did just that every time. But don’t tell me dirt bike riders are the ones bringing refrigerators out their and blowing them up with shotguns and leaving the mess behind for us respectful riders to clean up. But the older you all get the harder you are to deal with out their. And you horse owning cry babies wanna poo hop that dirt bike riders are scaring your horses and are rude. Get real. That’s like us riders complaining about the horse crap we have to wash off our bikes tires cuz you all let them crap anywhere and everywhere regardless if its your property or not. They go hand and hand. It comes with the territory and has for many many years. Try putting those officers in town where the real problems are taking place and sheriff’s department officers are short handed people. Not out harrassing good people for staying out of that loop of scum bags. And you all think that having a 7 officers on this same stretch of land that isn’t the sheriff’s department at all or half the owners of that area complaining really think that makes much sense. 48 hours a month to ride around 7 dirt bikes I bet is triple the amount of damage caused from dirt bikes then all these kids combined that ride a couple hours on the weekend every other week. Do the math you hipocritical dummies. We tax payers are only wasting money for these morons to do the same exact thing these kids are doing. Cuz guess what, if there out there patrolling the area, their scaring your horses as well, there riding on your non fenced in private property as well. Gonna start saying we’re all killing off the turtles next. Some of you are just getting ridiculiously old and got nothing better to do then find a reason to cry about something. And someone said you can drive out to Kern county and ride all you want. Well and you can take horse to Santa Anita then if you wanna ride yours… And all you others can take your rascal electric wheel chairs to bingo night and ride yours. If you don’t like people on your property, do as so many others have and put a fence around it.. or don’t put your ponies next to a dirt road if their gonna get scared.

          • I suggest you purchase some property and ride on it. Who in their right mind thinks it’s ok to ride even a horse on private property..

          • “Get off your lazy ass and ask them to leave…”
            Yes and be threatened with a weapon or vehicle, ON MY OWN LAND, by some drunk or punk ass who thinks the law doesn’t apply to them? I’ve had jerks like you threaten my pets and livestock, say they’d burn down my house, and thaten to kill my wife and me. I’ve been rushed with a quad, roostertailed with rocks by a dirtbike, and had my truck vandalized. Offriaders are a menace, and I take any of you tresspassing on my land as a direct threat now.

    • Most of the land in Acton and Agua Dulce is private property. It is NOT public land. Just because I don’t have a fence around all of my property doesn’t make it okay for people to trespass. And it is posted on most peoples property.

  35. So dirtbikes can’t go on dirt but horses can shit in my driveway? Seems fair. Ya destroying the land, a 1 inch deep tire track? Now that’s destruction.

  36. I have been riding dirt bikes since I was 7, we went to jawbone and other places n this desert where U could ride, we live n Leona Valley, neighbors just moved n and have been doing donuts n their horse corral, up the hill which is next to us make a dirt track and they R riding on the residential streets out here. They have no babysitter because mom and dad do not even know what’s going. One of these days they will run through a stop sign for the last time! I am okay !! For these guys who protect us and our community thumbs up

    • Really you little sissy la la… Now your complaining there doing donuts on their own property and your gonna complain about that too. Why cuz they moved in next to you? You can move at any point. If they ride on the street then call the cops. That I agree with you on. But we font need to pay 7 officers to do the same thing their doing. But sit here and whine about doing donuts on their property now too? I’d hate to have you as my neighbor. You just got done saying the parents don’t even know and the kids have no baby sitter… So if they don’t know how can you expect them to fix it. And if they are old enough to ride a dirt bike then there old enough not to need a baby sitter smarty. It’s called the parents are working for a living and aren’t home.. Some of us don’t have all the money in the world to hire someone to watch our kids every second I’m at work. That would require me to get a 2nd job just to pay their wages… Better idea, why don’t you get up off your lazy buns and talk to the neighbors / kids parents and see if maybe they can fix your concerns. Specially if like you said “*The parents don’t even know”…. Think before you speak next time…

  37. Hey
    I think the money and your time be to better use, thats why the kids today are what they stealing getting into drugs, over policeing , u guys get a life and serve the county like u should

    • The reason kids are getting into drugs and stealing as you so poorly put it is because parents like you who do not take care of them or try to discipline them let them get in to drugs and steaaling so instead of having the police do your work of being a parent maybe you should start being one.

      • Also, aside from the bashing the grammar of the first individual that commented, the land in which ATV riding is prohibited is PRIVATE property, owned by individuals and companies. ATVs destroy the land and property. I am quite sure that if someone decided to make donuts in any reader’s front yard they would be extremely angry at the sight of their property being willfully damaged and defiled.

      • See that’s where your wrong. Unfortunately most of us choose not to be on government cheese and free hand outs like you there zero. Your name explains your type. We gotta get up everyday and work out butts off to pay our bills. So sometimes out kids are left alone and we can’t always watch their every move like you free handout Freddy/zero.

        • So because I make 6 figures and work from my home office and am able to see more illegal activity I’m on the “Government Cheese”. Wow, what an assumption. Your argument is so illogical and irrational I doubt you will review this post again. Meagain. I work every day and pay bills too. What on earth caused you to resort to this statement. Can’t you have a logical, reasoned dialog with someone without resorting to insulting them?

    • George, they are serving the county like they should. Businesses and private land owners requested the increase in off road patrol units to combat people that are too lazy to take their bikes to legal riding areas.
      If the riders were not lazy and riding illegally then the patrols would stop as they are no longer needed. Amazing!

      • Not all of us that have off road toys just leave them sitting in the driveway. Try taking your bronco off road once and you might understand.

        • Not a Bronco. But I have driven my 4x4s along legal trails in a few states now. It is good fun. Scared myself and the passengers a couple times but we always make it home in one piece.
          My family has property in Acton and have had to chase off people because they felt the long driveway, entirely on our property, was a public access even though it has a sign at the road stating private property. Then the sign mysteriously disappears and we have to replace it, again and again.
          Enjoy the toys legally and enjoy them often.

    • Teach your kids right from wrong and to respect other peoples property. Then maybe you won’t have as many juvenile delinquents stealing, doing drugs, or trespassing on private property.