PALMDALE – A Palmdale man said he is holding a public hunger strike until county officials help him and his family gain visitation rights to his four grandchildren.
Gene Loiacono is trying to raise public awareness with an ongoing demonstration near the Department of Children and Family Services office in Palmdale. Loiacono said his family has been denied visits with the four children for about a year, even though family members were supposedly granted visiting rights by a family court.
“I want to see my grandkids,” he told The AV Times. “The foster parent who has them is a friend of the family. But she cut everyone off … and the DCFS said we need a court order.”
Loiacono has circulated a petition with 12 family signatures to the Los Angeles County DCFS, L.A. County Superior Court, and Supervisor Michael Antonovich’s office. The petition is asking the agencies to help enforce the family’s right to visit its children, while also requesting that a family member be able to adopt the four children.
In the May 23 petition, Loiacono states that the current caregiver “has consistently denied family and friends the ability to visit these children … despite the fact that family court granted several of us visiting rights.”
In addition to publicly protesting at the corner of Sierra Highway and Avenue O-8, Loiacono has started a Facebook page called Families Rallying to End Enslavement (FREE). He said the purpose of the social media campaign is to “bring awareness to state sponsored kidnapping of children by DCFS.”
Loiacono explained his harsh rhetoric toward the county agency, saying, “These case workers write their reports, and they should be held to the highest standard, but they’re not … They’ve got way too many kids in their care, and that’s why they can’t care for the ones who need it most.”
Lancaster resident Sandra Quezada, a psychology student at CSUN, briefly joined Loiacono’s public demonstration against DCFS on Tuesday to share her story.
Quezada told The AV Times that she was upset with how DCFS case workers in March took away her two boys, 4 and 5 years old, and believes they were unjustly removed from her care due to her husband’s unrelated deportation.
“I feel they’re using the father’s record against me,” she said. “And I don’t feel that it’s fair that they’re just taking children away from people. They’re basically punishing the mothers.”
Quezada said all she wants is another opportunity, and she criticized the DCFS for not finding alternatives to separating children from their families.
Quezada’s brother also joined the small Sierra Hwy protest on Tuesday to help raise awareness toward the county’s child care system.
“I know that the system is supposed to be there to protect certain kids who are really in danger, but I think the way they use their authority, I don’t think they use it under the guidelines that the people would actually consider just,” he said, asking to remain anonymous. “I’m not saying that I condemn them, I’m just saying you got to look at the situation, like we’re humans, and you have to treat us with fairness, with honesty, and a certain respect.” Quezada’s brother said he also joined the small protest out of a need to support Loiacono’s hunger strike.
Having begun his hunger strike on Monday, Loiacono said he will be at his Sierra Highway and O-8 location “every day except weekends” until this matter is resolved for his family.
The AV Times contacted DCFS Public Affairs on Tuesday to comment on Loiacono’s protest against the county agency.
Armand Montiel, director of public affairs, said he could not comment specifically on any case the department is servicing or investigating, but he did say that parents in this situation are not necessarily in disagreement with how DCFS handled their case.
“It might be that they disagree with what the court ordered regarding the visitations,” Montiel said. “That’s not something we can change. And because this is the child’s family, that’s something that the child’s family, particularly the parents, need to communicate with their attorney.”
Montiel said he questions why family members are not taking their strike to the courts.
“Why are they at the DCFS office when they should know if they are communicating with the parent that we don’t control the court order,” he said. “And, if in fact they think that DCFS is out of compliance with the court order, then they need to go back to court and say that DCFS is out of compliance – please find them in contempt so that we can get going on our visits.”
But that is a matter the parents need to discuss with their attorney, Montiel suggested, explaining that the family would need to petition the court, not DCFS.
“By and large, the court is receptive to hearing from close relatives, like grandparents,” he said. “More often than not the court will grant that request (to speak before the court), and they will hear their concerns, their objections or requests. And that’s why you don’t see very often … people protesting in this manner – because we’re not the ones in charge.”
However, Loiacono remains skeptical of the DCFS, saying on his Facebook page that, “Decisions by children’s court judges are strongly influenced by DCFS case worker’s reports.”
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Monika says
The PALMDALE DCFS office falsified reports and had my kids removed from my care and since my kids been in DCFS care my 5&11 year old daughters have been molested and my 7year old son has been physically abused and the PALMDALE DCFS office has all my kids on medication when there has never been anything wrong with my kids and these CSW WORKERS out of the PALMDALE DCFS office continues to make false allegations against me & my kids every time I go to court and I haven’t had my kids in 15 month’s these are the CSW WORKERS that are constantly making false allegations JACQULINE LEWIS,CAROL LABRIE & JENNIFER ARMSTONG I also have all my documents to prove all I’m saying and I’ve been completed everything the court and social workers ordered me to do I’m just trying to get the truth out so my kids and no one else ends up like GABERAIL FERNANDEZ because DCFS truly don’t care about nobody’s children only thing they care about is the $$$
shana says
Anonymous,
If it true what you say then why not own what you say. Put your name.
Don't talk to DCFS says
The best way to protect yourself and your children from the horrors of DCFS is to never speak to them in the first place. I have been a foster parent and have adopted three children from Los Angeles County DCFS. Even with that, they traumatized my six children when they stormed my home with armed deputies based on a false anonymous allegation to the DCFS hot line (it was later proven to be by one of the birth mothers and her Moranic friend). When I started posts such as this one to advise people of their rights, DCFS Directors Armand Montiel and Xiomara Flores – Holguin retaliated against me by directly contacting my employer in an effort to silence me. My advice to everyone everywhere is to never speak DCFS, never let them into your home, never let them see or speak to your children, never give them any information about your family, and never sign anything from DCFS. They can not legally enter your home without your consent, an emergency (such as a child screaming for help), or a warrant. Even with a warrant, you and your children can not be compelled to speak to DCFS; you should all continue to exercise your right to remain silent. If you think DCFS will return with a warrant, move or go on vacation. Most importantly, never become a foster parent.
West o Naples says
Loiacono!
Ischian!
If you don’t fight for what it’s right…who will?
Stand tall.
Blood will always be worth fighting for, and a child doesn’t deserve any degree of isolation from their own blood! We have enough problems with people having kids for the wrong reasons…the county sees nothing,the same as the VA sees nothing(personal experience)!
Keep fighting!
Karla says
People love to waste their time trying to make points by trying to justify their words. All I have to say to this is that this man is right on point with what he is fasting for. Children matter. The children in the system matter. The children that only have one parent matter. The children of teens matter. The children of young adults matter. The children of my neighbors matter. The children in America matter. What doesn’t matter is what he, she, they have to say. If you really aren’t putting your family ahead of all the BS? Then why should opinions matter?
Confused says
I agree that what children day doesn’t matter.
Confused says
*say
Jasmine says
Dcfss said I jasmine Hubbard is mentally ill because every time I got back home i notice my iron door open so I call Palmdale police’s didnt want to go n my apt with my kids .so the police’s called me crazy .when I called them out to my home.I went to trail told the judge my story she said y would some one go n ya apt .I thought to my self u see the news .y did that man hit the police’s lady with a hammer than hit a lady walkn with her boy friend with a hammer. Why did the man in baker fields break in female place and rape them y there kids was there .pep dont have 2 no u 2 do any thing .u dont have to do anything to any one for them to do anything to u .real storie I ever told.dont see how this make me crazy
desiree says
For someone that is fasting, you are still stronger than a horse. In this heat, your body would be totally exhausted from lack of food. Are you sure you are not eating a huge breakfast before going out to start your day and then having dinner afterwards?
I work at the mall and pass by each day and see you out there but you are always very active and moving around – someone fasting in this heat would not have your energy level – if you don’t believe me watch Naked and afraid…they are out of energy by day 3
Gene Loiacono says
I am seeing a doctor on a weekly basis. Since I started the fast I have lost 22 lbs.
Step up says
If you really look into the system, there are not enough foster homes to take care of all the children that need to be removed for their safety from their home. Why would DCFS go take a kid just for **its and giggles and to make themselves feel powerful when there is NO WHERE TO PUT THEM? And if you are all so much better than DCFS, why dont you become foster parents so you can share some love and light to all these kids?
Confused says
This is where parents that had their kids taken away come to cry foul. Reality is what you say not this bizarre conspiracy these people are trying to create.
Step up says
You said exactly what I was thinking! I have been involved in the foster care “world” for over 24 years…as a child of a foster parent. And I have seen more than ANY of these people have seen, most foster parents have seen and most social workers have seen. Of course there are some CSW’s who arent great at their job. But there are people at McDonalds that arent great at their job, their are people at the Apple company that arent great at their job. But when did that make the whole thing corrupt? And if it werent for DCFS where would the kids who “rightfully” (from what these people are comparing) taken away go? And for some reason, this world we live in right now ONLY wants to believe what is gonna cause drama. The truth is not as fun and wont cause a rise in people. And I would like to add, if you dont like what the CSW’s do, BECOME ONE so you can FIX it!!! And then you see what really goes on inside those doors. And you will be UNFORTUNATELY SURPRISED that your conspiracy are false!
Jasmine says
Your wrong I hate when pep who is not god that see alls speak on what they do speak. If u was a foaster mom was it for free because if u care why did u take the money .
Confused says
I think the money is justified. I’m sure it isn’t always spent wisely, but a foster mom should get some money to care for the child.
Jessica says
My brother in law and his girlfriend used crystal meth daily. Everyone knew it. Kids were neglected, finally someone called dcfs and a worker started coming out and we were happy because these kids didn’t need to live this way and be exposed to this. Than after a couple months we find out case was closed and nothing had happened. We called the worker to ask why nothing was done ! She said nothing could be proved. So you couldn’t drug test them? So sad another failed case by dcfs……..
Tim Scott says
If drug use were a disqualifier for parenting we would need giant camps to raise all the kids in.
Over half of all Americans are on prescription drugs, the vast majority of them out of convenience not necessity. You think mom popping pills “to keep her happy” is that much better a mom than mom on meth?
Confused says
I think DCFS is going to be concerned about mom buying prescription drugs on the street, but I think meth use is worse than responsibly trading a prescription medicine.
Confused says
*taking
Tim Scott says
I wasn’t saying anything about DCFS… just commenting that people who have medical insurance to pay for the doctor visit and supply their happy pills condemning people who get their happy pills on the street as automatically being “bad parents” is something I find pretty amusing, in a disgustingly ironic sort of way.
Confused says
According to people on here DCFS doesn’t need proof. They kidnap kids from awesome parents for money. I’m not sure where the money comes from, but that seems to be the theme of the ‘victims’ posting here.
jasmine says
I jasmine Hubbard written my concerns about dcfs .my four kids where taken out there home .do to false allegations that my kid auntvgave to my csw .Amber Marino convinced my csw Elizabeth Payton .that the alleged allegations are true .on 4/06/15, my kid aunt went into dcfs office and reported that during the past six month she has transported the child jaslyn h. To visit me where I live .that she observed my son omario .h .who is 6 years old whom is nonverbal and has a diagnosis of autism wondering the seets alone with out adult supervision .she report that this incident with finding omario out of sight from the mother home has occurred a handful of time .on prior occasions that I jasmine Hubbard failed to provide appropriate supervision of the child .where the child reside. These are unproven allegations and there no supporting evidence .
Gene Loiacono says
It’s is a sad and way to often tale I’m hearing from people stopping by. DCFS lack of morals and ethnics on matters that require a high degree of sensitivity is beyond ludicrous. Stop by and help make signs. I think I need more signs.
Hmmmm says
So….all smoke no fire whatsoever huh??? Hmmmm
jasmine says
I jasmine .h. Written about my concerns about dcff ,my 4 kids where removed from there home and place in coaster home do to false allegations that my child jaslyn h .care giver jaslyn aunt amber morino gave to dcfs .at the time she contacted children services . Amber Morino convanice dcfs that the alleged allegations are true .on 4 /06/15 my daughter jaslyn aunt who is her care giver .went into dcfs office and reported that during the past 6 months that she has transported the child jaslyn to visit me .where I live .that she has observed the child omario .j.Wallace.Hubbard whom is 6 years old ,whom is nonverbal and has a diagnosis of autism wondering the stress blocks away from home and out of sight from the mother home .this occurred a handful of times .on prior occasion thatvi jasmine Hubbard failed to provide appropriate supervision of the child where the child resides .these are unproven allegations .
Christie says
Bravo to this man! This is exactly what everyone should do who has had their child(ren) or grandchild(ren) taken unjustly. It is corruption that is destroying undeserving families. Too many people are not aware of how crippled & corrupt this system is until it’s too late. Google Senator Nancy Schafer to see just how corrupt DCF/CPS is. She may have very well been murdered for speaking out on this evil existence. Money+Power=Corruption
My eyes were opened after DCF literally kidnapped my grandson from me AFTER 5 police officers REFUSED to remove him from my home then committed perjury and assassinated my character… Why? I knew money was behind the root of this evil. I felt so empowered for the first time on 6/5 since my grandson had been kidnapped when I was holding a sign in front of the courthouse that boldly stated MY GRANDSON KIDNAPPED BY DCF for everyone to see. DCF committed a CRIME! They proved to me just what kind of criminal acts the government is commiting against our children.
The Political Observer says
Good job by The AV Times covering this man’s story.
A Culture of Fear is a book written by two former DCFS insiders exposing corruption within the department. One co-author – Melinda Murphy – a former social worker is on the record stating she raised her children to never speak to a social worker.
Read more about A Culture of Fear along with interviews with the co-authors at http://www.scribd.com/tavpo.
Coverage begins with the May 2014 issue and continues throughout the year into 2015 including the current issue.
At The Political Observer Facebook page, you will find video of one social worker – Margo Sellers – caught in a lie. Sellers was subsequently removed from the case in question after the posting of the video.
Thank you The AV Times for permitting to post with a link directing to The Political Observer newspaper on-line. There is no forum at this site, so all comments will, of course, be posted here at The AV Times.
Stinger says
“But that is a matter the parents need to discuss with their attorney, Montiel suggested, explaining that the family would need to petition the court, not DCFS.”
This guy is knowingly full of bovine excrement. He knows darned good and well that the vast majority of families victimized by the DCFS do not have the money for a private attorney to fight in their little unconstitutional kangaroo courts and have to rely on the incredibly overworked county appointed counsels who do not respond to requests to return to court to hold the DCFS responsible for their misdoings. This is why DCFS can get away with so much harm to families, they have no REAL oversight and have WAY too much authority to do anything that they want.
Now, to be fair to the DCFS workers; they get slammed with too many false claims that they MUST investigate (even when they know it’s a bogus claim) via their unconstitutionally designed TOTALLY ANONYMOUS reporting system. Simply changing this one issue by requiring callers to be identified and held accountable for knowingly false reporting would reduce their load enough to let them concentrate on handling the real cases that need attention. Too many people are abusing that reporting loophole to get revenge on innocent people.
Gene Loiacono says
Here! Here! I concur. Armand Montiel is doing the same tap dance that I’ve had to endure over and over. It’s unbelievable what government gets away with while people are afraid to get involved to stand up against this kind of fascist style government.
jasmine says
Jasmine Hubbard . my kids aun ,my csw has taken a personal offense against me.for there own selfish gain . which is cruel and very unusual for any one to deny and deprive any child the right of their only parent .these allegation amber morino made to my csw Elizabeth Payton there is no evidence supporting these allegations are true .there false allegations .certainly does not in no way be of such a impact that would cause for removal. Of my kids .from our home .as a person who is assigned to protect kids but waist her time on false allegations .who is in her best interest when the wrong people are being punish .my csw strongly believe iam a terribal mother and is using her personal opinions against me .my csw ms elizabeth payton is truely the cause and along with my kids aunt Amber Marino .Angelina biomes are the cause and reason for the disruption of our home . there is a conflict of interest the way of my csw.way of relating to my children and me .due to her unprofessionalism as a csw. Toward my family her conduct is unacceptable and she should be reprimanded and terminated from her position as my kids and I csw.
Gene Loiacono says
WELL SAID!!. What I’m hearing is the TOTALLY ANONYMOUS is a way big part of the problem. NEVER let them in your HOUSE if they come KNOCKING on your DOOR!! DCFS workers are trained to be VIPERS. I see this mass of UNRESTRICTED, IN YOUR FACE VIOLATION of HUMAN & CIVIL RIGHTS that needs to be STOPPED IMMEDIATELY because INSANITY of what they are getting away with. I shouldn’t even need an attorney for my grandchildren. Montiel is giving me the same SONG & DANCE I’ve been getting all along. Come out and show support by just being there.
Nicole says
Good luck i really hope this gets resolved for u and your granchildren.. God bless
Gene Loiacono says
Thank you. It’s not just my grandchildren. DCFS needs to be shut down and retooled. Come out and help end this madness.
Jasmine says
I went up there to set with you I seen you in petson with my friend I wssnt look n for this page it just pop up see how god work .I hope you got what you wanted god bless
shaylene says
Goog luck to you! Its about time some attention is put on that dept for how corrupt they are!! That whole system in the AV needs to be investigated
Gene Loiacono says
Thanks. I agree 100%. Looking for people to help make signs and show unity in our demand for real justice.
Acton says
DCFS is a proven child kidnapping agency. People must understand that without stripping kids from parents they would lose their budget so yes, there is a quota for them to steal children from families for NO reason. Do no ever befriend anyone that works with this child kidnapping association. They do not care about the children, AKA Gabriel. They do not car about the parents. These people could not hold a typical regular job so they work for the county. They cannot even pass a 6th grade spelling bee. Trust me, stay clear of these ‘people.’
Gene Loiacono says
And they’re getting away with it!! It needs to be stopped immediately! If you can stop by and hang out. Just having bodies there help out.
Curious says
I am a bit confused by your statement…..you stated that DCFS is kidnapping children from homes, and then you use Gabriel Fernandez as an example….HE WAS NOT removed from his home.
Confused says
Hey, stop being logical. DCFS is kidnapping kids aka Gabriel. Don’t try to understand. It’s way beyond what the human mind can conceive.
Curious says
HAHAHAHAHAHHA that is sooo funny! Maybe one day we will all become smart enough to figure it out….but in the mean time,hopefully this corrupt DCFS who are kidnapping and stealing children to give them to gang members and human trafficking (as was posted on here) can take a lesson from this grandfather, get their act together and stop saving children from families that are abusing/neglecting them.
colleen says
I hope I or anyone who you love has yo go through this not one of these people are bad caretakers I have seen a child taken and put in foster care and they fought hired attorneys and private investigators cause the child wad put in foster care thank God the great grandma had the money to hire the attorneys and private investigators cause they found out that the foster family was neglecting the one year old and the foster dad had allegations of child abuse needless to say after a long hard fight and ALOT of money the attorney was able to bring everything g to light and the child was given to his great grandma. Admit it our system is broken foster childern are at a loss very few are treated and loved the way a family member will love them.
SilentNoMore says
I have 2 children who are not children anymore and i was called on by the schools as my son was on medications for a mental health issue i was following the doctors orders and the school said i was over medicating my son, basically the doc wrote a nasty letter telling DCFS to mind their own business. Then a medical doctor called on my because i took my son in and thought he had a hernia and the doc said no he has a twisted testicle and needs surgery i asked for a second opinion he refused so i took my son and took him to the hospital to be seen the doc there said i was right it is only a hernia and he will need surgery but not right this second and sent us home, i got home to find a DCFS worker on my door step again false allegations. Now fast forward to my kids being adults and me becoming a foster mother i had 2 workers while i had this child the first never told me the extint of this kids problems and she was violent not to mention the first worker said no family vistis at all and the second worker allowed family to visit and then the kid started telling calling her family and making up stories and these wackos started showing up at my home causing problems and the workers did nothing to protect my family so i had enough and told DCFS i was done. I always wanted to be a foster mother to children in need as i was a child of need and they destroyed my dreams in one felt swoop DCFS needs to be fixed
Anonymous says
I agree that dcfs does not write their reports accurately and they do not fully care to investigate the whole story before they tear the kids from the their homes. I learned this first hand but in this case this grandfather is not telling the whole story. I am sorry for the kids, I’ve sat in the waiting room of the dcfs office and talked to people, I’ve heard other parents stories and its sad, it really is. I wish we did have a better system, i really do!
Gene Loiacono says
DCFS needs to change from a negative to a positive. It’s like it’s driven by dark forces. Come out and show support to change DCFS
irene says
I don’t know his story but if he’s not abused the kids then he should at least be allowed visitation in the dcfs building. But, speaking from bad experience with them, my kids were taken from me for something my boyfriend made a mistake on. We’re not perfect humans but my children never went hungry or cold and they always had a roof above their heads and most of all our entire love and attention. Now I’m being punished daily that I don’t have my 3y.o and 1 1/2 year old. Missing all these important steps as they’re learning. Enough to send me into depression. Going on a year with our 4th worker!!
Gene Loiacono says
If the child seems then care of then nothing more needs to be done. If DCFS see’s a flaw they attack that moment of indiscretion and then kidnap your kid. Fresh air and socializing are good for depression. Come over and hang for a while.
duh.... says
As his 15 minutes wind-down, let’s review WHY he is protesting rather going to court… look up the case on LA Superior Court webpage- this goes way beyond child neglect and abuse- there’s a very good reason why they are NOT listening to him, and HE KNOWS IT. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the crime, fool!
Anonymous says
Thank you! How can i look that up.
Gene Loiacono says
If your talking to me I don’t know what your talking about. Do you know something I don’t. Gene Loiacono
Govmt emp says
Gene good luck and really hoping for a good outcome
dumbandblind says
In the AV Courthouse there is a computer station where you can look up cases, just enter the name you are looking for. Just ask any guard and they should tell you where it is.
Gene Loiacono says
If you got DCFS’s case numbers by just entering a name you should report that to DCFS. . If you want to talk come to 0-8 & Sierra Hwy. next week and tell me what your trying to say. Gene Loiacono
Govmt emp says
To the above person commenting don’t do the crime? Really? What exactly do you know about the corruption in our system? And if you don’t know nothing then yiou’re the fool.
Govmnt emp says
Duh, You’re A FOOL
Debbie says
I agree the streets is no place to take your business to. If you are on the up and up you would go to court to get to the bottom of your issues. That is what we did and yes the process is long and tedious. But the system does work . They want to place children with good family members. But you have to keep at it.
Gene Loiacono says
The system put you through hell. They create an enormous amount of unnecessary stress on the parents as well as what the emotional twisting your child is being put through. But this is about the clear mockery the government is making of our most basic’s of rights. Come out and support putting an end to corruption in DCFS.
Jasmine says
I went to court it got me know where .I set with this man in person and seen I wasn’t the only one feel n the same way .now my 7month old america hubbard got a mark under her eye from foaster home .what up with that
anonymous says
What is the information? I don’t see anything on the webpage other than having to pay to search someone’s case?
If you have the information… why not share it?
vicky says
Gene has never neglected these children..!!
curious says
Hey Duh – how do I look up the case on LA Superior Court webpage???
Jasmine says
I went to court it got me no where I sat eith him I got to meet pep go n through what iam go n through. Now my 7 month old baby has a mark under her eye but to dcfss it nothing if it was me the police’s and dcfss would be at my door
Anonymous says
This is only one side to the story. I agree with some of the things said about dcfs but this mans story is inaccurate. Don’t always believe what you read!
Gene Loiacono says
And don’t trample every element of the fourth amendment because of some hot line caller who had a grudge. Where does DCFS get off pulling off the absolute outrageous nefarious attacks against our most basic human rights. There’s no need for an constitutional amendment for the right to bear children. And they are way overzealous in their sweeps taking kids doing more harm then good in I bet over 70% of the cases. I can say for certainty the are doing more harm then good and that is why I here.
foster mom says
Gene,
There is more to your story than you are telling the press and commenting here. As a foster mom I see what the workers go through, I deal with parents not following court orders, I deal with drug addicted parents who don’t bother to see the children, I see family member after family member who’s wrap sheets and current life styles could never ever have a child in their care. Not all family members are the best placement for children. I would be appalled at the system if they allowed just anyone to have children that are removed just because they share the same blood.
Everyone of the children that has been placed with me needed to be removed from their parents. An aunt wanted custody of a child in my home, but had a 48 page wrap sheet from everything from armed robbery to drug trafficking. Some charges were still pending in the court system. Why would they allow a child to live in those conditions?
My experience is family first and then friends. While reading your posts and yours daughters post I can see that financially you are not able to take the children. I also see that your ex wife or wife that you have been separated from for more than 20 years, gave the children to this friend over a year ago. Why did you not take them? Why didn’t your daughter take them? why not any other family member take them? Instead they were given to a friend? I understand that she passed suddenly, but she had enough time to set them up with a friend…
I just feel that you are not telling the whole story and yes, maybe DCFS is not allowing you to see them, but why? Where is the court order? If you do have one, then you need to go back to the judge and say the family friend and the social worker are not cooperating.
I wish you the best as it seems like you love your grandbabies but I think there are other ways to show your concern than not eating and staying in front of the DCFS building… Don’t you think that the courts will take a dim view on how you react to a crisis?
bee says
If people with long wrap sheets and drugs problems shouldn’t get there children back, then why do they have these ex-gang members, and drug addicts in the Parents N Partnership? They got there children back. I think the problem is bigger than this.
colleen says
listen we all know the whole story and what happend I believe they are only asking to have visits with the children as ordered by the court . You talk about money well I think you if it’s you on this post is getting paid to care for these childern. These childern have a right to have contact with all there family . You ate a family friend why are you not trying to keep family bonds. There family has been fighting the system for a while. plain and simple let the family visit with them even if it supervised and they have to pay to see them y is that so way out that u are trying to stop even that shame on u
Confused says
They are not saying they want visitation… they want to have a family member adopt the children. Supervised visitation is one thing, but adoption is another. I imagine there are reasons why the court doesn’t support a family member adopting the kids. Gene is able to attack DCFS publicly but DCFS can’t respond due to confidentiality.
Gabe Loiacono says
These are vague, non-specific accusations, hidden behind the cloak of anonymity. I would love to know what you are talking about. I would love to be able to read the court records. I would love to be able to petition the court as Montiel suggests in the article. But the court refuses to give any information to family members or let them even file their papers. They’ve been stonewalled, and four children who have repeatedly expressed their desire to be reunited with family and friends are being hidden away from family and friends, leaving us without even a basic knowledge of how they are being cared for.
Debbie says
In our case it took child services awhile to get my grandson away from his abusive drug addict mother. Every time he was taken away from him they put him back in her custody. He keep crying out for help 3 years later he is thriving and doing excellent in school. Now that he is living with his dad. Finally the judge saw what we were trying to tell her. The mother was suppose to go to parenting classes drug classes she has done nothing. She can have supervised visitation she has set nothing up. My grandson told her the other day he never wants to live with her. But it took child services awhile to do what they were suppose to do. Every child is given a lawyer this grandfather should try to talk to the children’s attorney and get a court date to see the judge. They want children to be with family whenever possible.
Confused says
That’s what I see too. DCFS gives parents many opportunities and is hesitant and slow to act. I imagine these kids were horribly neglected and now the grandparents are trying to assert their rights instead of allowing the foster parent to act in the best interest of the kids. Gabriel is the problem I see, not this. The people on here are making vague allusions to boyfriends that got in trouble, but I’m willing to bet the boyfriend was a real monster and the mother showed a pattern of not protecting the kids.
Gene Loiacono says
Confused suits you. You got the judgmental atttude because children were removed from there home somebody did somebody wrong.Even if their was a problem wouldn’t it be better then traumatizing children by placing them with stranger. DCFS is a totally all to powerful immoral people for profit organization.
Confused says
My point is that dcfs needs to take children away but is far far too slow to do so thus we get tragedies like Gabriel. The design is to keep the kid with the parents, but obviously sometimes that is not possible. Protest away, but if your sympathizers are parents that have had their kids removed you might be preaching to the choir. I’ve never had dcfs threaten to take my kids away and can’t imagine how crazy things have to get for that to occur. Actually I can imagine and I imagine drugs alcohol violence neglect filth trash and a pattern that seems to have no end in sight.
EFreebird says
DCFS case worker reports are laden with outrageous lies and intentionally omitted information that are used to keep custody of children. It’s an abusive system that targets and persecutes families for the almighty dollar. You can imagine the type of people in the background really running things and making the decisions. The type of people that care only about money and their own kind, usually born in another country too, but here they scored the golden ticket, a real county job.
There are thousands of families online who are victims of DCFS abuse. Only 52% of removed children ever return to their families. DCFS neglects reported abused children like Gabriel Fernandez, who had 67 calls regarding his abuse, but they didn’t do anything but ask the mother out on a date. Instead they like to torture grandparents, aunts and uncles, disallowing any contact with the children they seize.
Thank goodness for people like Gene. Join many others online, there’s TONS of fb groups, forums for families of these sick corrupt DCF people.
Annon says
Let me say this from experience…. as many others can to; DCFS is nothing more than a sham. In most cases, they do more harm than good. This agency should be demolished at rebuilt as a not for profit agency with REAL people.
June11 says
PLEASE READ, AND BE WARNED: THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL ACT LIKE YOUR FRIEND TO TRIP YOU UP. I DON’T DOUBT THAT DCFS SW HAVE THERE CLICK ON THE STREET, IE; GANGSTERS THAT HELP THEM TO TRIP YOU UP, SO THEY CAN ADOPT YOUR KID AWAY BECAUSE OF DISCRIMINATION OR THEY JUST DON’T LIKE YOUR FAMILY!!! WATCH OUT!!!! I ALSO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WANTING YOUR KIDS IN FOSTERCARE, SO WHEN THEY SEE A MOTHER WITH A CASE THEY SEND THERE HOMIES TO ACT LIKE THERE HELPING YOU OR THEY NEED HELP FROM YOU AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW THERE TEACHING THEM HOW TO BE LITTLE GANGSTERS, BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE YOUR RACE, OR SOMETHING ABOUT YOU. IM WORRIED THAT SOME OF THESE KIDS ARE IN THE WRONG HOMES GETTING USED AND TRAINED BY PEOPLE THAT MAY SELL THEM INTO SEXTRAFFICKING WHEN THERE OLDER. THAT GIRL ASHLEY LEWIN, I SEEN HER ON THE BUS WITH A SMALL FRAMED YOUNG BLACK GIRL, AND NOW SHE MISSING, WHAT DOES THAT TELL ME? THAT SOMEONE IS USING SOME SERIOUS MANIPULATION ON THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THEY HAD THAT LITTLE BLACK GIRL, GO OUT AND RECRUIT OTHER GIRLS. THERE IS SICK PEOPLE OUT HERE, THEY KNOW HOW TO GET YOU DRUGGED UP FIRST WITH ALCOHOL, ONCE YOUR DRUNK OUT OF YOUR MIND THEY FORCE YOU TO SMOKE DRUGS TO MAKE YOU ADDICTED AND BAM YOUR A VICTIM, AND THEY PROBABLY GOING TO WORK ON GETTING YOUR KID NOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE YOU ADDICTED AND NOW THERE GOING TO START ON YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS. I NOTICED THAT OUT OF THE BLUE SOME FAMILY MEMBERS FACEBOOK PAGE GOT DELETED, AND CHANGED WITH A DRUGGED UP PICTURE OF THE GUY, THEY TOOK DOWN HIS FAMILY PICTURES, AND MADE HIS BACKGROUND SCREEN BLACK. I SEE THIS HAPPENING TO A FAMILY. THESE GUYS ON THE STREET GET OFFERED MONEY TO TARGET YOU AND ABUSE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, GET SOME OF THESE MOTHERS AND FATHERS TO USE, SELL, AND DO DRUG TRAFFICKING AND THREATEN YOU WITH YOU LOSING YOUR KID/KIDS IF YOU DON’T. THEY MIGHT EVEN SEND A FAKE SOCIAL WORKER TO REMOVE YOUR KID FROM YOUR HOME OR THE FOSTER HOME.
DON’T GET CAUGHT UP, AND BECOME FRIENDS WITH ANYBODY. CHECK THEM OUT THROUGHLY!!
I HEARD OF A SOCIAL WORKER WANTING A MOTHER TO GO GET SSI, OR MEDICAL EVALUATION, AND MEDICINE MANAGEMENT. WHY???? SO THEY CAN USE IT AGAINST HER AND TAKE HER KIDS AWAY!! BE YOUR OWN BEST FRIEND, BE DRUG FREE, ALCOHOL FREE, DON’T GIVE THEM ANYTHING TO USE AGAINST YOU!!!
I HEARD OF A MOTHER THAT DIDN’T USE DRUGS AND THEY GOT THERE LITTLE GANGBANGER FRIENDS TO CHANGE THAT. ASK YOURSELF COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME OR SOMEONE I KNOW???? DO YOU SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF SOMEONE HOUSE OR APARTMENT? THIS IS HOW THEY START, THEY BEFRIEND YOU AND REALLY THEY WANT TO MESS YOU UP, AND DESTROY YOUR FAMILY, AND SAY BYE BYE TO YOUR KIDS, I DON’T EVEN THINK DCFS REALIZES THAT THEY COULD BE PUTTING KIDS RIGHT IN THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS VIA THROUGH SOMEONE THEY RECRUIT TO BE A FOSTER PARENT, AND FOSTER PARENTS GET AWAY WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING!!! I HAD A FAMILY MEMBER GET MOLESTED BY A FOSTER PARENT, AND THEN WHEN WE TOLD POLICE, THEY FOUND TAPES OF HIM MOLESTING OVER 19 OTHER FOSTER KIDS. I HEARD OF A FOSTER MOTHER THAT TOOK HER FOSTER KID TO A 24HOUR CHILD CARE AND LEFT HIM THERE FOR A STRAIGHT WEEK, BECAUSE SHE DON’T REALLY WANT HIM, SHE JUSTS WANTS THE MONEY. SOME OF THESE FOSTER PARENTS GET CLOSE TO $10,000 A MONTH FOR HAVING FOSTER KIDS IN THERE HOME.
GET YOUR LIFE TOGETHER AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS!!!! DON’T GET TRICKED BY THE GANGSTERS, AND I WOULDN’T PUT IT PASS THESE SO CALLED PARENTS IN PARTNERSHIP, THEY PROBABLY KNOW THE GANGS, AND DON’T LIKE SEEING A PARENT GETTING THERE KID BACK, SO THEY ARE PROBABLY SENDING THERE GANGBANGER FRIENDS THAT THEY KNOW TO MANIPULATE YOU.
I HEARD YEARS AGO ABOUT THEM DOING AN INVESTIGATION ON DCFS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT DCFS’S RESPONSE WAS…. “WILL DO OUR OWN INVESTIGATION” WHAT!!!!! ARE YOU FREAKIN SERIOUS….ITS DCFS THAT IS THE PROBLEM AND THERE GANGSTERS IN PARTNERSHIP!!! WHAT A JOKE… GET SOME GOOD PEOPLE IN PNP, WHY EX-GANG-DRUG USERS,,OHHHHHHH SO THEY CAN SEND THE MESSAGE TO THERE FRIENDS ON THE STREET,, HAHA.. BE SMART AND DON’T LET THEM HELP YOU WITH SH*T, I WOULDN’T TRUST THEM.
MOVE TO THE VALLEY, SO THAT YOUR CASE GETS TRANSFERED, MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE, MAYBE THATS THE PROBLEM..THE ANTELOPE VALLEY OFFICE IS CURRUPT, AND IT HAS BEEN FOR YEARSSSSS.
Billie Van Rossum says
I agree with you 100%, DCFS placed my grandchildren with me a year ago, after a 4 month fight with them (DCFS) took them away from me because I let them see their mother. Who has attended all their classes. and they still won’t give them back or let me (grandmother) see them..
BBB says
I think there needs to be an investigation as to where these adopted kids are really at. Did some of them get adopted away and later they are targeted because they were foster children and they get forced to do things for Gangs, and if they don’t there family may get attacked, and abused. I heard of a county counsel person having a group home and he wanted the kid in his group home, so he tried to, but it didn’t work. I know this bc he told me he had a group home, this was a long time ago, and I don’t know if he still has one. Are some raising these kids up to be doing illegal work in the system too? ARE THE SOCIAL WORKERS BEING THREATENED BY OUTSIDE GANG LEADERS? WHO DO THEY HANG AROUND? CHECK THEM OUT, FOLLOW THEM! I ALSO KNOW THAT SOCIAL WORKERS ARE [removed] STARTERS, THEY LIKE TO MAKE REPORTS THAT AREN’T TRUE TOO. I HEARD OF A FOSTER PARENT LETTING THE KID WONDER OUT HER HOUSE, AND SHE HAD TWEEKER FRIENDS, BUT KNOW THIS SHE IS NO LONGER A FOSTER PARENT.
Confused says
Do you listen to Glenn Beck? If no, you ought to give a listen. He’s good at connecting these dots. There’s no evidence or even much reason to consider what you believe… but yes I think that gangs are telling DCFS to put kids that they want into foster care and then the gangs use the kids. Maybe Gene could research this?
June 15th says
It sounds like you violated a court order.
June 15th says
You and your comments are nuts. Please give facts and evidence if all this is true.
Jasmine says
THE WHOLE COURT ROOM WILL POLT ON U The judge is mad at me because I move out the a domestic violence shelter after 2months of the judge given me 3 of my kids back. The judge was mad. The hole court room will set u up .now my piror csw Angelina briones try to get the judge to remove my kids because I wanted 2 move in my own place .the judge said know .so now I got a new csw Elizbeth Payton. now my prior csw who try to get my kids remove and it didnt work .told my new worker to remove my kids .now the kids attorney Jennifer lorson mad because she didnt want me to get any kids back .or only just one kid. But the judge over ruled her and gave me 3 kids back so the kids attorney mad at me .so here comes Amber my kids aunt who want my kids who is not blood family not to my other kids only my twins she got .she ploted and lie to my csw. Now the judge mad I move out the dv shtr .My kids attorney mad the judge over her and gave me 3 kids .My old csw mad the judge didnt take my kids the frist time. My new csw mad because we didnt get off on a good palth .now my kid aunt want to keep my daughters she got but now to adopt her and want my other kids for money who aint know blood to her.
Jasmine says
Your say n real stuff I .my lil 7 month old america is in foaster home she got a black mark .I told my csw she went to see my baby and she believe what the foaster parents told her.but let that been me the police’s and my wrk would be at my door taken my kids
Rooney says
I wish you luck sir but going on a hunger strike is only hurting you. They don’t care about your health. Good luck!
Gene Loiacono says
You should read about fasting.
jasmine says
Hi
Jasmine says
Havent seen you out have you got too see your grandkids