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    • I’ve never met a doctor that could run their own office. What makes you think this one can run a country?

      Not to mention that he has already said any number of clearly ridiculous things.

        • And who would Ben Carson put in those positions? “Experienced people” drawn from the same band of jackals that brought us the debacle in Iraq and the “brink of a global financial meltdown,” to quote the last guy who let them run the office of the president. No thanks.

        • You mean like all those that helped W run his presidency that Jeb wants to use?

          Look at the messes they got us in those 8 years. We are still working our way out of them.

          • William, let it go. Still blaming Bush after all these years is just a cop out. Since Obummer took office there are more people on welfare than ever. The number of people receiving food stamps is 43% higher than when Obama was sworn in. 93 million out of work. The middle class is making on average $5,000 less per year. The African American unemployment rate is higher. Home ownership has continued to decline to the lowest point in over a quarter century. Health care premiums are going up. The economy isn’t recovering at a fast enough rate. Immigration hasn’t been addressed. Race relations are much more divided. You can’t blame Bush forever. By the way you and pirrurris can make fun of Ben Carson all you want but neither one of you have accomplished anything compared to what he has in his life. I think you two are the real village idiots.

          • It has nothing to do with “blaming Bush.”

            GWBush followed Republican economic policies. They led to disaster. The Republican party advocates a return to those same policies. The same people who orchestrated the “brink of global financial meltdown” and suggested that handing them a trillion dollars with a three page document describing how the money would be kept track of as it was distributed “at the discretion of the treasury secretary” are the advisers itching to ride another Republican president into the treasury to see if this time they can get away with looting it.

            GWBush brought in Republican party foreign policy experts who had written for decades that Iraq should be “democratized” by invasion. Surprise, it happened. Do you think that turned out well? Because the people who advocated it have been writing for the last seven years, and they think it turned out great. They are itching to repeat the effort, only this time with Iran. The price in blood is no deterrent to them, because it is not their blood and they are the righteous…just read what they write. And they are the foreign policy advisers of every Republican candidate.

            Get it through your head. GWBush is irrelevant. The issue is that the policies of the Republican party are PROVEN failures, and they HAVE NOT CHANGED.

          • I particularly like that “the economy isn’t recovering at a fast enough rate” part. Somehow, to Republicans, “we broke it and you aren’t fixing it fast enough, let us break it again” must make sense, but I’ve never understood how.

          • @Tim Scott

            You can show right wingers the numbers, the dates, the facts, and the reasons a million times and it just doesn’t pierce the bubble they live in.

            29% of republicans surveyed recently in Louisiana believe President Obama responded poorly to Katrina 3 years before he took office.

            Around 30% of them think we found WMDs in Iraq and a similar percent have doubts about the President’s citizenship and religion.

            They live by their own definitions of words, their own ‘facts’, their ‘beliefs’ over ‘what is so’ and so on.

            Just look at their clusterfest of a political campaign/nomination process and their Trump’s fight with their fox ‘news’. And, they want to run the country.

            They couldn’t supervise an ant farm.

          • @not an idiot (really?)

            Since the 80s, when Reagan started his trickle down decimation of the middle class, wages have remained fairly stagnant as the wealth gap increased.

            Mitt Romney was the perfect poster child for vulture capitalism and it was perfect that he lost to a community organizer and a Kenyan Muslim, if that’s what you want to believe.

            Most of the wealth increase since 1980 went to the top 10%, actually all of it.

            Then, along came W and during his first term it was noticed that Americans had zero savings, were maxing out on their credit cards while taking out home equity loans to buy RVs and granite counter tops and other toys (they were encouraged to go shopping while Bush invaded Iraq) or paying increasingly inflated home prices that were bound to collapse as they did.

            At the same time, manufacturing jobs were being outsourced and mergers were also cutting jobs. Bush invading Iraq based on falsehoods that were fairly obvious at the time and put the cost off budget didn’t help. Didn’t you notice all of that, Mr. Idiot?

            Deregulation meant that banks could bundle toxic mortgages and sell them off as prime investments, more GOP ‘free market’ krappola from you guys.

            It was predictable, as I was predicting it myself back in 2005, that a crash was a-comin’ and sure ‘nough. I didn’t know it would start with Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers specifically but it was coming. How could a constantly inflated housing market and Americans not saving continue forever without a crash?

            Baby boomers were aging and when their jobs went overseas or simply disappeared, then what were they to do in the late 50s and early 60s. They’ve been retiring which probably isn’t included in the work force numbers you guys dishonestly put out there to mislead.

            There was no buffer in order for there to be a reasonably speedy recovery. Taxes had already been cut. What Reagan and Bush did MADE THE RECOVERY A DIFFICULT ONE BY THEIR VERY OWN ACTIONS.

            This was no normal business cycle recession and you are an ignorant fool to even compare it to any previous ones such as the one Reagan inherited.

            Just what kind of magical recovery did you expect, Einstein? Interest rates and inflation have been unusually low and even gas prices didn’t shoot up to $8 a gallon as those brainiacs on fox ‘news’ were predicting.

            You not so cleverly ignored that the republicans in Congress, whether in the minority or majority, threw wrenches into every effort made by President Obama and the Democrats to fix things, even opposing their own ideas and bills. You are dishonest in your comments.

            Don’t you even think of coming back here and repeating that same old same old that you copied and pasted from fox ‘news’. We’d heard all those lying talking points for 6 years now and debunking them just goes in one of your ears and out the other as if there is nothing inbetween them.

            Your lack of intelligent is truly amazing at a time with all of our advanced information technology. All you can seem to absorb are the lies and misinformation put out by right wing media outlets and then repeating them.

            We may have seen the last of you. But, if you do come back, I’ll be here to call out you bull excrement as fast as you can dump it here.

          • @Tim Scott, I’m not the one that needs to get it though my head George W is irrelevant. That’s William in all of his posts he blames him for everything. He thinks all of our problems are only because of the orepublicans. That’s just not true. Both parties are to blame for our troubles. Both parties wanted to invade Iraq. There are PROVEN failures in both parties. Anyone who can’t see that both sides are responsible for how messed up this country is are just biased and ignorant.

    • And, who did you ‘hope’ would become president in 2008 and 2012?

      Did your ‘hoping’ make it happen for ya?

      • He sounds more like he had a Valiumtini.

        The term ‘dim witted’ comes to mind from the things he says.

        The desperation on the right is palpable.

        One by one, they are going to crash and burn leaving the one they least liked from the start just like last time. That’s one smart party.

    • @2016

      “Later, Carson said he personally believed Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

      “I personally believe that this theory that Darwin came up with was something that was encouraged by the adversary, and it has become what is scientifically, politically correct,” said Carson.”

      Yeah, Carson is quite the village idiot and we thought it was W.

      I bet there are numerous quotes from Ben Carson that show him to be totally unfit to be president, vice-president or teach a 5th grade science class.

      It’s quite amazing how in one man, he can be a brilliant brain surgeon and also the stupidest man in the room when it comes to other fields of science and in politics. He should be studied.

      Even more interesting is that people such as Claire, Iknow and 2016 right here in the Antelope Valley are so willing to buy his brand of nonsense. These folks walk among us. They are impervious to facts presented to them and it’s a wonder that it’s safe for them to leave their homes unattended.

    • What this country needs is a man like R. Rex Parris. Can you imagine a nation filled with cities that play bird music 24/7? There would be no crime. Cats and dogs would lie down together in perfect harmony. For those hard of hearing who cannot hear the bird music, we would have a national fleet of Eyes in the Skies to keep us safe from harm. Imagine a national company like Ecolution to sell our garbage and every street painted by the revolutionary TractionSeal TM. Anyone who would speak up against this great nation would be put in jail like Mr. Grejeda was, or if anyone dare say anything in public like David Abber did, it would be gloves off. Pit bulls would be eliminated and their reign of terror ended. He would create a Christian nation, one that emulates his beliefs and the beliefs of Lancaster Baptist Church. Yes, it would hurt California’s wine sales, but just think of how much more grape juice would be sold to a thirsty nation. Fossil fuels would be a thing of the past and evenings would be free from the plaque of televisions and computers, so families could grow closer to one another by the light of solar candles. It would be a brave new world with President Parris.

    • I really hope R. Rex Parris is not our mayor. I hope he stays at his beach mansion in Newport and frees our beautiful Valkey of his bullying, nepotism, incessant lawsuits, and corruption.

  2. Rick Perry-GONE

    Scott Walker-GONE (someone said he was a ‘dead man walker’ since last week)

    I wonder when Claire’s pick, Ben Carson, will be booted after saying a Muslim shouldn’t be president because his faith doesn’t comport with the Constitution. Neither do Carson’s beliefs.

      • I suspect Ben Carson has had either a severe head injury or a high fever that resulted in some brain damage.

        He is one of the most idiotic candidates in an extremely idiotic field. Kasich is probably the only one fit to be the nominee and for that very reason, he won’t be the nominee.

        Jeb has a lot of money behind him but he said in the last debate that his brother “…kept us safe.” Well, except for that one day in September 2001. But, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play? He has stumbled every time he’s opened his mouth. He is another one who is unfit.

        The GOP base is crazy. I bet the Duck Dynasty guy could do better in the polls than the bottom dozen.

        We’ve had some tea party types here on the AV Times and they don’t do the GOP any favors when they type.

        • Jeb with the “he kept us safe” line is actually on to something. The real GOP candidates (not the crazy loons running on “everyone hates politicians so vote for me even if I’m totally not qualified”) have to deal with the reality of GWBush.

          In 2008 McCain knew that with the sitting president of record breaking low approval ratings as an albatross around his neck he had no shot, and mostly just went through the motions. In 2012 Romney tried to just pretend GWBush never happened, and that did not work.

          It was way too easy to point out that his entire foreign policy team was the same maniacs who lied us into Iraq, and that they spent 2008-2012 spouting either “invading Iraq worked and they will be a beacon of freedom in the Middle East, just watch” or “it didn’t work, but only because of Iran, and what we really need is to democratize them at gunpoint.” Association with those madmen couldn’t be hidden, and was ultimately fatal to his campaign.

          But, as Jeb noted, no matter who gets out of the clown car with the nomination, if they tap Republican advisers with experience they are going to be tapping from the same pool Romney did. There’s no hiding it or avoiding it. So the only play available is to rehabilitate the GWBush administration. Rewriting history is a traditional Republican pass time.

          • Tim Scott. Did you think there were WMDs in Iraq?

            Me neither back in 2002-3 when Bush was pushing the idea.

            I had no ‘inside’ information but it was so obvious that Cheney/Bush wanted to invade Iraq from January 2001 and September 11, 2001 gave them the excuse they needed.

            Any contrary evidence was ignored or dismissed regarding WMDs. They are such liars.

            The ‘village idiot’ W thought that he’d be long dead before the truth got out and I’m glad he is alive to know that he’s guilty of the worse foreign policy mistake in our history even as he pretends it isn’t and his dumb brother, Jeb, does too.

            But, these shameless fools say that President Obama is to blame for everything when they left the mess for him to clean up.

            If there are still many Americans unemployed, it’s because of the mess Bush left with companies that either went out of business or moved out of the country. How were they supposed to rehire laid off workers as in previous recoveries when they were no longer in existence?

            The republicans should never be allowed to have the executive branch ever again or they’ll destroy this country for good.

          • Truthfully, I didn’t have any opinion at the time. I recognized that the “smoking gun/mushroom cloud” marketing campaign was meant to stampede us into a war whether there were any WMDs or not, but didn’t take that as confirmation that there weren’t any. I just didn’t like seeing the country stampeded into a war by a marketing campaign instead of having a clear and just cause.

      • Jhon, and what if he was? Last time i checked, the 1st amendment gives us the freedom of religion to worship or belong to whatever relligion we chose. Or does the first amendment only apply to the God loving hypocrite republicans?

        • Last time I checked, the 1st Amendment only applies to Congress and restricts that political body from making laws that promotes one religion over another or make laws that prohibits an individual’s right to practice their religion.

          Individuals have the right to vote or not vote for a person, for any reason. Some will vote for a person just because they are handsome and have good teeth. Others will vote for someone just because of their religion, gender, skin color and sexual orientation. Others will not vote for someone for the same reasons. Some people did not vote for Mitt Romney just because he was Mormon. Ben Carson has the right not to vote for a Muslim.

          Welcome to the human race, pirruris. We are all opinionated a-holes. In a world full of religion and politics, there will never be a shortage of hypocrites.

      • Hi “tonto” John,
        Is that the best remark you have? What if he is a Muslim? There are many atheist out there that voted for Obama because the Re-pubic-can’ts are religious wackos. The only classy Republican that ever earned my respect was Ronald Reagan, and I can’t believe I am going to say this, but Kasich seems to have a heart and brain somewhere in there. Please go take your “dum dum” pills elsewhere!

  4. Why, oh why, is R. Rex Parris still the Mayor of Lancaster? After spending a little time in the wilderness, I still don’t understand. I know there are over 150,000 people in this area and many like me can’t stand him. Where were all the voters? The total combined votes were, well, appalling. Can anyone say apathy? Isn’t Rex supposed to be doing what’s best for the people of this city? He sues everything that moves and doesn’t move. It’s all about him and his cronies. He and his cronies weren’t nice people when they were young, now their old and not nice.

    • You can Thank the Lancaster Babtist Church for Rex getting elected. All you have to say is that you are a God loving Christian to get eleted, or that your favorite bok is the bible, even though you may not even know a verse from the bible, and people will follow you blindly.

      • good questions Claire and a good point pirruris. i don’t know anyone that likes him or thinks well of him. people call him everything from crazy to evil to corrupt. some say he’s all of that. one thing is for sure, he is all about him and his pals. all his go green bs is about him making money. all his crap about the eye in the sky is to make money for his pals. he acts like he is some kind of expert on climate change when he has no degree in science, climatology, or any related subject. he made a bucketload of money on a court case and now he thinks he’s king rex. he has hurt this city in so many ways from all the lawsuits he caused from his remarks to all the ill will he has created between our neighbors. his leadership has left us with junk bonds in both the city and now the hospital. he committed $10 million bucks to his stupid eye in the sky. he cost us money on his dumb ecolution. he is shoving a walmart up our back ends where we don’t want it. he is dangerously mixing his personal brand of religion with city politics. he ignores east lancaster. i wish he would go away.

      • They teach that the wine of Jesus’ day was grape juice. They teach that it was not fermented. Any first year student of New Testament Greek knows that it was fermented. The King James “bah-ble” they use has several admonition about excess wine which could lead to a lifestyle of drunkeness. If it wasn’t fermented, what were the admonitions for? So they wouldn’t get diarrhea from drinking too much grape juice?

        If you wonder where our “genius” mayor gets all whackadoodle ideas from, maybe it starts at the compound. Rhodes Scholars they and he are not.

  5. I moved to the AV from Glendale, CA. The reason: for the amount of rent I paid for a 500 sq. ft apt in Glendale, I could rent a beautiful 2 story 4 bedroom house for the same amount in a family oriented neighborhood up here in the AV. Unfortunately, between the drought, inclement weather and lack of free events. The AV has become less of a community and more of a city that (due to our huge population and varied demographics) has wants and truly needs more outlets for our youth. Employment is another huge dilemma. There is not enough jobs to support our population. We need valuable training and classes for students wanting to become registered nurses can’t get at our AV CC. Free events, outlets for our youth, vocational training and employment is causing our family oriented community to rely on negative outlets due to a lack of jobs, out of boredom or worse.
    The AV is still considered a commuter community why>? You can’t find a well paying job in the AV and must commute elsewhere. What happens when you commute? You spend your money elsewhere because of convenience, referrals and friends. As we all know, money is an issue anywhere. Lack of pay or benefits takes a toll on a family unit increasing divorce or parental units having to live closer to work instead of at home. I love how we do have a YMCA in the AV, but why not many more? Non-profits are easily created and funded because they are not for profit. If we could get more non-profit agencies in the AV and demand our community college (AV) to hire professors to teach the classes students wait many semesters for and to make it possible for successful and timely graduation/degree(s). Getting our students (our future) into the classes that they need to earn a degree, the AV would benefit. We can say we have great elementary, middle and high school with supportive, engaged and driven teachers. Our law enforcement and a promising and influential orchestra of medical students, interns and physicians. Please don’t give up on the AV. I’ve been here since 2001, moved in a year before 9/11. I’ve seen the changes both negative and positive. I only ask that our community gets involved and make a stand on education rights and convince corporations to trust in us, so we can stop commuting to other cities and become a community like I’ve witnessed in the past.

    • In regards to the classes at AVC: It was explained to me YEARS ago, that it was better financially for AVC to focus only on the entry level classes, as they have higher enrollment, and therefore generate more tuition. Basically they thought why bother paying for a professor for an advanced class that less than 20 people will take, when you can pay another professor to teach two 101 or below classes that’ll generate about 80 students. Those 20 may only need that one class, while those 80 are more likely to enroll in additional classes as well.

      AVC administration doesn’t really seem to care if students obtain a degree or license. They care that you pay tuition, and in the grand scheme of things, the advanced classes fell victim to a lack of ROI.

    • the only way change will come to the AV is if we get qualified leaders to lead and make AV prosper. I have been gone from the AV for over 20 years, to seek a better life style than what is available there. Spending needless money on bird music down on the BLVD was waste. when I am in town, I don’t even go down that way. Traffic is terrible. People running red lights without facing consequences to their actions. More businesses in Palmdale vs Lancaster. More good jobs are required to keep people in the AV, and spend money in the AV.

    • We need Jesus to come and clean up the corruption. Enough with the nepotism, insider deals that make big bucks for political contributors. No more lies about what birds can do to lower crime, how a spy plane lowers crime, how a natural gas power plant will kill children, how safe our city is when it isn’t, how selling garbage is a good idea, how painting roads with cheap substance will extend the life of our roads, why we should spend $850,000 of tax dollars on a brewery and so on.

      We need Jesus to come and pull a Matthew 21:12 over at Fern St. ——-
      “Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

      • Right on the money, AV Observer. He also should hold another sermon on a mount (maybe QH Mountain) so that he can impress upon these democrat nimrods the value of living a good life…rather than their self centered and self serving phony concerns about the environment, guns, spotted owls and the like.

        • I think God is waiting for those of us made in His image to realize we are made in His image so that we can initiate sweeping positive change Ourselves. The kingdom of God is within each of us, are we assertive in that power, in that presence? What entities do we allow to disempower that reality?

      • If you’re waiting for Jesus to show up and change things you are going to be waiting until you die. And your kids die. And their kids die. A millenium will pass and nothing will change because you never DID anything except pray to a god who never showed up. You want change? DO SOMETHING. Praying doesn’t do anything. VOTE. VOLUNTEER. GET INVOLVED.

        Praying is useless. And as long as you keep thinking Jesus is going to come around and save your sorry ass, nothing is going to be any different for you or anyone else.

        • What about that invisible person you pray to. How does that work?

          Have you won the lottery yet.

          Has there been peace on earth yet?

          Have you lost that weight you prayed for yet?

          How come people who don’t believe are fine, generous and compassionate people without having to believe in your god or any god?

          They must have those special qualities already. How come you didn’t already have them? Just curious. Something for you to contemplate.

    • Iknow, that you kmow,that i know….that the ones that need Jesus, are your racist hypocrite God loving Christian republicans.

        • When you have the hypocrite evangelicals God loving hypocrite republicans, following the idiot anchor husband Donald Trump blindly ..you know you have a problem. Donald Trump said today that “the only problem that he had with woman, is that they are not into polygamy”. WTF? And the hypocrite republicans are applauding this POS. They grab the pop corn tomorrow, because the same GOP are going to tear him a new A-hole tomorrow.

  7. The Rex-endorsed Rick Perry has called it quits in his pursuit of the presidency. Maybe Perry should have done his homework before coddling with a nutjob like Parris. Perry is from an oil producing state and Parris thinks oil is going to put Bangladesh under water. Besides, Parris has a history of backing losers such as Strickland in the congressional race who got his butt kicked by Steve Knight, who Parris tried to smear. The Republicans are in trouble nationwide. Maybe they would be smart to look at Parris and his brand of “Republicanism” and run far, far from it.

    • @AVObserver.

      If only Perry had taken rex with him into the wilderness.

      Let’s see, who will rex be the ‘kiss of death’ for next? There are so many losers to pick from. And, rex is good at picking losers as you said, AVObserver.

      Y’know, for maybe half of them, they are audtioning for a job at fox ‘news’ as a commentator like Palin, Santorum, etc. or their own show like Huckleberry did.

      It’s the only job audition that the losers apply for and get. fox ‘news’ is like those freeway signs that say ‘No services for 35 miles’. It’s the end of the of the line, career wise. Tucker Carlson shared a show on CNN, had his own show on MSNBC, and now sits on the curved couch with 2 other morons for a silly morning show. That’s the opposite of the ‘Peter Principle’, as it should be.

      Can you believe it? fox ‘news’ goes to Sarah Palin as though she is some kind of elder statesman(?) or expert on domestic and foreign affairs. That’s all you need to know about the quality of the news and commentary on fox and the intelligence of its viewer fans.

    • @AVObserver.

      If only Perry had taken rex with him into the wilderness.

      Let’s see, who will rex be the ‘kiss of death’ for next? There are so many losers to pick from. And, rex is good at picking losers as you said, AVObserver.

      Y’know, for maybe half of them, they are audtioning for a job at fox ‘news’ as a commentator like Palin, Santorum, etc. or their own show like Huckleberry did.

      It’s the only job audition that the losers apply for and get. fox ‘news’ is like those freeway signs that say ‘No services for 35 miles’. It’s the end of the of the line, career wise. Tucker Carlson shared a show on CNN, had his own show on MSNBC, and now sits on the curved couch with 2 other morons for a silly morning show. That’s the opposite of the ‘Peter Principle’, as it should be.

      Can you believe it? fox ‘news’ goes to Sarah Palin as though she is some kind of elder statesman(?) or expert on domestic and foreign affairs. That’s all you need to know about the quality of the news and commentary on fox and the intelligence of its viewer fans.

    • @AVObserver.

      If only Perry had taken rex with him into the wilderness.

      Let’s see, who will rex be the ‘kiss of death’ for next? There are so many losers to pick from. And, rex is good at picking losers as you said, AVObserver.

      Y’know, for maybe half of them, they are audtioning for a job at fox ‘news’ as a commentator like Palin, Santorum, etc. or their own show like Huckleberry did.

      It’s the only job audition that the losers apply for and get. fox ‘news’ is like those freeway signs that say ‘No services for 35 miles’. It’s the end of the of the line, career wise. Tucker Carlson shared a show on CNN, had his own show on MSNBC, and now sits on the curved couch with 2 other morons for a silly morning show. That’s the opposite of the ‘Peter Principle’, as it should be.

      Can you believe it? fox ‘news’ goes to Sarah Palin as though she is some kind of elder statesman(?) or expert on domestic and foreign affairs. That’s all you need to know about the quality of the news and commentary on fox and the intelligence of its viewer fans.

    • @AVObserver.

      If only Perry had taken rex with him into the wilderness.

      Let’s see, who will rex be the ‘kiss of death’ for next? There are so many losers to pick from. And, rex is good at picking losers as you said, AVObserver.

      Y’know, for maybe half of them, they are audtioning for a job at fox ‘news’ as a commentator like Palin, Santorum, etc. or their own show like Huckleberry did.

      It’s the only job audition that the losers apply for and get. fox ‘news’ is like those freeway signs that say ‘No services for 35 miles’. It’s the end of the of the line, career wise. Tucker Carlson shared a show on CNN, had his own show on MSNBC, and now sits on the curved couch with 2 other morons for a silly morning show. That’s the opposite of the ‘Peter Principle’, as it should be.

      Can you believe it? fox ‘news’ goes to Sarah Palin as though she is some kind of elder statesman(?) or expert on domestic and foreign affairs. That’s all you need to know about the quality of the news and commentary on fox and the intelligence of its viewer fans.

    • More political “wisdom” from the all-knowing Rex. In an article in today’s AV Press, Mr. Genius is quoted: “Parris said the candidate “who really scares me is Trump.” Parris likened Trump’s rhetoric about Latino immigrants to that of Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitic speeches.

      “I think Trump could be America’s Hitler tomorrow,” he said.

      Coming from the man who called Jonathan Ervin, an African-American veteran who ran for a city council seat a “gang candidate,” Rex should talk.

      The only candidate that should scare anyone is the one who runs the meetings every other Tuesday on Fern St.

  8. What a shocker. I just saw the ad for Celebrate America on the BLVD ad the FIRST THING LISTED is the BEER GARDEN! Shocking right? Hardly shocking for a mayor whose events feature BOOZE, BOOZE, BOOZE. They listed BEER GARDEN before fireworks, music, children’s activities and entertainment which is what a celebration of America SHOULD BE. Not under this mayor. It’s all about BOOZE, BOOZE, BOOZE! What does Pastor Paul Chappel think? Bishop Henry Hearns? Where are you Pueblo y Salud? Pastor Chris? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

    • Dontcha get it, Boozer?

      There’s a severe drought and people needs themselves lots of beer because we have to conserve water or something.

      Not to worry. rex knows best for everyone. Just ask him. He’s not shy about telling ya that.

  9. C’mon people, they are all crooks no matter Republican or Democrat. As long as corporate interests trump that of the peoples, there won’t be cures, just the treatment of symptoms. Wake up people! They have no problem separating Church and State, what about separating Corporation and State?
    Enjoy the Fukushima radiation falling on our heads during this year’s rainy season. More sick people, more demand for their supply. Most of my fellow Americans are so programmed into a waking sleep like state, its pathetic! Let’s do the trance dance! You all make me want to puke! Okay, not all of you…
    When a people becomes stagnant, it takes a storm to get them to move!

    • You’re right on. Democrap or republicrap–they are merely puppets on a string controlled by the banking interests. Jefferson (or it might have been Franklin–or one of that crowd,aka our founding fathers) warned us of this. Disraeli warned the people of England about a secret group that operates in the shadows.

      I am a retired reporter. During election season I always collected all the financial reports. Those that make the cash contributions (whether corporate or individuals) donate to both party candidates. No matter who wins–they win.

      • Welcome to the minority of this site. You two couldn’t be more correct. However, the majority here are completely entrenched with the “Go Team Red/Blue!” mentality.

        Straight ticket voters and the death of accountability.

  10. So, Parris and his council just voted to spend $850,000 of tax dollars to widen a street in front of a proposed brewery? Are you kidding me? Maybe if Parris spent some time in Lancaster rather than living in Newport he would see the condition of our roads. They’re a mess! It’s a good thing our councilmen from the east side stood up to Him and said no way Jose. Oh wait all sour council lives on the Westside and they don’t give a crap about anything except the beggar’s paradise the BLVD. Maybe if we had districts we would get some representation and stop this wasted spend. Someone anyone PLEASE sue Lancaster so we can have districts.

    • When do the rest of us who own struggling businesses get Rex to front us $850,000 grand? You gotta love Lancaster–where the mayor’s employees get appointed to deputy mayor positions, the vice mayor’s twenty-something year old son get appointed to the planning commission, a former councilman’s son gets a job at the mosquito district, real estate agents sell residential property to commercial interests then vote to change the land to commercial while on the planning commission, school administrator are related, and business insiders get sweet deals. What a cess pool.

      • This is nothing new. If you want to uncover the real Lancaster scandals–look at all the (illegal) no-bid contracts that Frank Visco gets (as well as other cronies)

        • is there some document or report with all this information? i know there is a lot of good information on rex on the facebook page get parris out of lancaster. i havent seen anything on these other business dealings. it would be good to get this all together and present to an investigative reporter not controlled by his royal highness.

          • I published it in the AV Town Crier. I have a very good CI (Confidential Informant) I no longer publish it and I ‘m not sure if I have the article anymore. If there is interest and the AV Times wishes to run it, I’ll be more than happy to do so.

          • i would love to read it. can you publish it here under reader’s speak out? another great place for the truth about rex and all the shenanigans is on facebook at get parris out of lancaster. you could put it there too. thank you. it will be worth reading i’m sure.

        • It was reported that several more businesses closed on the blvd.

          How is rex gonna explain that away come next election? It’s been a big failure despite the $10 million spent to redecorate it.

          Supposedly, rex travels all over the world , but his blvd project looks and smells just like it was thought up by someone who has never been out of the Antelope Valley in their entire lives to know how things work in the rest of the world.

          That whole project had AMATEUR/NOVICE written all over it from the start. They should have given the assignment to a group of high school kids and they would have come up with a smarter design and implementation during 1 semester. And, likely cheaper.

          • Mr. Biddle would love to see a reprint of your research on Visco and the AV Hospital pension plan. Especially in light of the underfunded pension plan Moody’s noted in their downgrading of the hospital’s bond rating on the 10th. Junk bond status!

          • What kin ya say about Ole Rex? Since he’s been runnin Lancaster he’s been runnin it into the ground. The citys in debt as high as the Sierra Nevadas, the citys got junk bonds, we’s spending $10 million bucks on Ole Rex’s stupid spy plane, we’s spent millions on lawsuits on account of Ole Blabbermouth and now the Hospitals goin to hell in a hand basket. Maybe we’s should wake up and stop supportin Ole Rex and his hand picked lap dogs.

      • Rules don’t matter much to Ole Rex. As long as he has direct access to the ballots, and he can get his cronies in the LBC cult to do his bidding, he can keep getting ‘elected’ over and over again.

        • You speak the truth Stinger. Rules do not matter. That’s why he has bbq’s with his elected council to discuss policy which directly violates state law. That’s also why he bought the old McMahon building for his law offices, despite the fact that it was against the law for any redevelopment board member to purchase a redevelopment property. He closed the hotel of an immigrant without fair notice of supposed back taxes. His spy plane is a 4th Amendment lawsuit waiting to happen. When we voted to change our elections to coincide with the presidential elections, he told us to pound sand. He and his wife get to carry arms but you go ahead and see if you can get a concealed weapon permit. There’s the world and set of rules that we all live by, and then there’s his world. It is a dark, disturbing world to say the least.

  11. Rex just sold out everyone living near the new solar panels coming to the soon to be ripped up desert in the west valley. He doesn’t care that the land was zoned for 2.5 acre parcels. Prepare for more dust storms, more Valley Fever, more unsightly views, more pollution.

  12. Lancaster is quickly becoming the Booze Capital of the World!!! Now Rex and his stooges are spending $850,000 of OUR tax dollars on making beer!!! It’s not enough that they sell BOOZE at the Fair, and at the Go Cart races, and at Celebrate America, and at Field of BOOZE. Now Rex and his stooges are going to help fund the way to make beer!!! Pastor Paul, where are you???

    • I blame the people of Lancaster that keep electing him. Lancaster church, plays a big role in electing Rex.

      • They’re either dumber than door nails or as corrupt as the mayor himself. How could they support someone who promotes booze events, booze businesses and speaks with a lying tongue.

        “There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers. — Proverbs 6:6-19.”

        Does this describe him to a T or what? Pretty much on target except for the hands that shed innocent blood. Destroying a person’s career or reputation is not quite at that level.

          • It’s craft beer, not crap beer you buy @ liquor stores! Every city sells beer at there events. There’s no homeless people hanging outside kinetic, unlike liquor stores. I didn’t vote for R. Rex Parris, but no one would be complaining if the same time of business opened by the mall, which evey restaurant there sells “booze”, wait I micro brew just opened on ave Q, near Walmart

          • Craft beer, crap beer, who cares? Why is Rex spending tax dollars to sell booze? He and Lancaster are all about the booze. It’s bad enough that the Fair is a booze fest and every event is a booze fest. Why is he using tax dollars? Where is Pastor Paul and his congregation? Where is Pastor Gary? Where is Pueblo y Salud? Where is Henry Hearns?

          • Kinetic has given money to the panhandlers so they would go away. I saw it first hand. I don’t don’t blame them. There are so many panhandlers on the BLVD so that is a compassionate way to encourage them to move along.

          • Every city makes tax dollars off ” booze”, I’m not a rex supporter! But i like kinetic, its a great place

          • Not every city wastes $850k in tax dollars to prop up a mediocre brew pub. Even if Kinetic was as good as a Sierra Nevada, Stone, Mission, Mammoth it is not right to spend public money on a brewery.

        • Boozer, maybe its time the DOJ investigates Rex Parris. Talk about conflict of interest. This is the main readon why I would never attend Lancaster Babtist Church.

    • Pastor Paul is drinking the beer (aka holy water)

      Rex and the LBC are phony Christians. They merely use it as a cover.

  13. The Kentucky clerk needs to give up her job! She’s a government employee and needs to submit to government laws. She doesn’t seem to trust God enough to give up $80,000 a year. She needs to find another job that will allow her to keep God’s laws. Now it’s become a political agenda and a three ring circus.

    • Just heard a desperate Mike Huckabee giving a rousing speech live to the crowd awaiting Kim Davis’s release from the Bastille.

      He then introduces her to the cheering crowd to the band playing ‘Eye of the Tiger’.

      Now, Huck will rise a few points in the polls for a week and then crash and burn permanently. He is a liar and a hypocrite of the highest order and will never be president no matter how hard he prays. God ain’t that stupid.

      He actually ‘preys’ on the dummies who send him money. Good. They deserve to waste their $$$s on him. Y’know the $$$s they’ve saved on health care costs because they now have Obamacare. The same Obamacare the GOP wants to get rid of.

    • I agree. Republicans are just being hypocrites. I wonder if the bible thumpers would do the same for a Muslim doing the same thing as Kathy Bates look a like, exercising his/her freedom of religion.

      • William, this is the same hocrite republicans that are suposedly are against Sharia Law. LOL. They are against Sharia Law, but are okay trying to push their religious beliefs on other people.

    • Right on Claire. Once the Supreme Court has made a decision–we ALL must follow it (like it or not). We can’t pick and chose which laws we wish to follow.

      If she is a conscious objector she must step down or relinquish those decisions to other employees. But she can’t prohibit her agency from complying with the law. She, herself, may recuse herself for religious reasons (even that–may still run afoul of her sworn duties to follow the Constitution.)

      NO governmental agency can refuse to follow the Constitution, federal or state laws. This women has violated the law and has overstepped her authority. She should be fired.

      • Plus, like so many loud mouth Kristians, she’s a big cherry pickin’ hypocrite on her 4th marriage and has 3 divorces on under her belt. What do Jesus and the bible have to say about that?

        I wonder what she and Huckleberry would do if another county clerk refused to give her a marriage license because she was divorced and it was against the clerk’s ‘firmly held beliefs’.

        These people are more than disgusting. The are destructive to this country.

  14. John Kasick or Ben Carson look very good right now. Who knows what the outcome will be. I hope for a good person; one that has integrity-stands firm with his words and actions. A person that isn’t driven by his own self importance. A righteous person that is humble with a servants attitude. If a Democrat gets elected I hope Democrats would consider Bernie Sanders instead of Hillary Clinton because Bernie Sanders is trustworthy and Hillary is not.

    • LOL…look good to who?

      Kasich couldn’t win the Republican nomination if he were the only one running. As governor he put the people of his state ahead of party unity, and the Republican faithful won’t stand for that.

      And do you really think that the radical racists wing of the party is going to get behind Carson? You are out of your mind.

    • @Claire

      Despite Bernie Sanders’ admirable qualities, I don’t think he would be able to govern this country.

      The GOP would fight him every inch of the way as they’ve done with President Obama going as far as to oppose their own ideas and bills if he signs on to them.

      Have you not noticed that behavior from the right since 2009, Claire.? Where have you been all this time?

      The republicans met on Day 1 to make sure that President Obama was a 1 term president and planned to obstruct and defeat him at every opportunity. Do you really think they will behave differently with a Bernie Sanders? Come on.

      That’s why it’s hard to take you seriously when you seem to be so oblivious to our current political reality.

      • The right wing e-mail chains have informed the dittoheads to support Sanders because a self proclaimed socialist (even though he really isn’t a socialist) is the only conceivable opponent that a self proclaimed Republican might be able to beat next November. I’m assuming this sudden spouting from Claire is a result of that.

        • No &*%t.

          When voter suppression doesn’t look like it will do the trick, try another dirty trick. It’s the right wing way.

          • William; it’s not just a right wing thang. The left does it as well. neither political party gives a rat’s ass about you–except on Election Day.

    • Here ya Claire and Lady Liberty,

      “JDP { Obama is a douche…. No matter what comes out of his mouth. } – Sep 08, 12:55 AM”

      Deal with your own kind for a change. You seem to only have issues when someone criticizes the GOP.

    • Claire, this just shows how desperate your rublican party is. Do you really believeyour racist republican party is going to elect an African American after all the crap that they did to Obama? You are living in fantasy land.

      • pirruris, please don’t be a race baiter. Ben Carson is a Republican in good standing. Please don’t make this about race.

        • Claire, your republican party made it abput race ever since Obama got elected. Your republican party is in for a rude awakening in 2016.

          • No, no, pirruris

            The republicans have alienated nearly every demographic but the 1%; minorities, especially Mexicans, LGBT community, teachers, union members, and so on BUT they turn around and say that President Obama is DIVISIVE.

            Or, as our very own ‘church lady’ says “Secular liberalism is undermining the country” or some such nonsense. Not only is that a lie but it hides what is really true. See Kim Davis and those presidential hopefuls who now are ‘undermining’ Supreme Court decisions while they proclaim allegiance to the Constitution, another big lie of theirs.

            Lies everwhere and our ‘church lady’ is here to prove it daily. That she now disagrees with Davis is to be looked at with suspicion.

            Ain’t that a hoot? They can’t help themselves.

            Beauty may be skin deep, but their hypocrisy and ugliness goes clear to the bone. Under that righteous, religious exterior is hate and hypocrisy that is barely disguised any longer. See a Mr. Donald Trump and the many on the right who cheer him on while the rest secretly applaud him but won’t come out and say so.

            Not only have they invented a personal god that miraculously mimics the worst of human behaviors (theirs) such as bigotry and intolerance but they think we should abide by those made up ideas of theirs and that our secular government should legislate and enforce their silly beliefs that aren’t shared by many Americans.

      • Claire is just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.

        She is all over the place and it’s hard to take her seriously and I don’t.

        Ben Carson is the naïve GOP response to President Obama a la Herman Cain in 2012 for 2 weeks until he fizzled. If Carson bombs, is there another black republican waiting in the wings? Doesn’t matter what nonsense (9/9/9 or Obamacare is worse than slavery) they say as long as they are a black republican. It’s obvious.

        Carly Fiorina is their answer to Hillary Clinton. Her job is to go after Hillary 24/7. How would she govern if all she ran on was trashing Hillary? And, she has an outstanding record of failure as a CEO and a senatorial candidate. Whoppeee!

        How transparent do they have to be for Claire to see all that?

    • Yes. Yes. Claire endorses Ben Carson. That outta do it for his campaign.

      For every Claire supporting Carson there at least 10 Americans who are smarter than that.

      “In an interview with The Daily Beast, Republican presidential hopeful and Fox News contributor Ben Carson said that the Affordable Care Act — also known as “Obamacare” — is worse for the U.S. than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

      Carson made headlines last fall when he told the assembled crowd at the 2013 Values Voters Summit that Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.” from rawstory.com

      Carson is unfit for elected office of any kind let alone president of the United States. Yet, Claire endorses the guy who said that nonsense. I don’t care if he is the best veterinarian in the world or the best Rolls Royce mechanic, he’d make a rotten president.

      He actually said the remark in the second paragraph first and then doubled-down like a complete moron. But, thankfully, he’s Claire’s moron.

      The ACA aka Obamacare was deemed constitutional by the Supreme Court. The GOP pretends to worship the Constitution while trying to destroy anything about it or its processes that don’t fit their ideology. Same with our ‘church lady’, Claire.

  17. From The Miami New Times website:

    “FLIGHT RECORDS REVEAL MDPD HAS AN UNMARKED CESSNA USED FOR SURVEILLANCE
    BY TREVOR BACH
    MONDAY, AUGUST 31, 2015

    MDPD has a Cessna.
    Earlier this summer, the nation was startled to learn that the FBI operates a fleet of more than 100 small planes that gather surveillance around American cities. The planes, an Associated Press investigation revealed, fly low in mysterious circular patterns; their registrations, meanwhile, are often tied to fake companies.”

    Laughing myself to tears.

    • Claire

      August 31, 2015 at 12:12 pm

      President Obama did praise Kanye West, calling him the symbol of the Democratic party…the jackazz! Sure Kanye, no reason why you can’t be Democratic front-runner in the summer of 2020.

      @ Claire. Look who’s talking.

      Claire

      September 1, 2015 at 7:34 pm

      It’s all an illusion! You’re the only one that mentions Fox news, over and over and over again. I don’t watch T.V. because it is all biased infotainment. But you do-that’s all you talk about. Someone with no credibility telling someone else they’re not credible. you just spin your wheels, going nowhere with the same old, same old. It’s all out of my hands Bill. Why don’t you stop letting me take up so much of that free space in your head.

      Claire

      August 27, 2015 at 1:03 pm

      Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, and James Monroe all worked to correct the “forged and fraudulent” Treaty of Tripoli floating in the Arabic world at that time. And none of those men were atheists, although Thomas Jefferson was accused of being an atheist which he was not. The other derogatory words directed at me don’t matter one bit.

      Claire

      September 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm

      “A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.” C.S. Lewis

      @Claire Do you annoy everyone everywhere you go at all times or do you just save it up to dump here on the AV Times?

      This is but a partial list of your offal.

    • Claire

      August 31, 2015 at 12:12 pm

      President Obama did praise Kanye West, calling him the symbol of the Democratic party…the jackazz! Sure Kanye, no reason why you can’t be Democratic front-runner in the summer of 2020.

      • Claire, you are right Kanye West, can run for whatever he wants. However, democrats are smart, and at tje end of the day, will not elevt a looney like Kanye. Unlike the dumb republican party that elected Sarah Palin to run as vice president. You remember Sarah right? The one that can see Russia from her window. LOL.

        • You need to drop the “Russia from my back door” reference, as it has been challenged by the right wingers as being a fabrication. A better reference is her coup de grace in New England, where she hilariously recalled Paul Revere “shootin’ them guns and ringin’ them bells” in an attempt to “warn the British” which, of course, never ever happened. She also somehow mistook Concord, NH as being the Concord in MA, the one where the fabled battle took place. When queried about her obvious lack of knowledge of both history and geography, she pulled a “reverse Hillary Clinton” and said it was a “vast left wing conspiracy” to discredit her. By far, Palin’s the worst idiot to ever run for national office. Her predilection toward having dalliances with NBA wannabes is pretty humorous, too. I’d bet big that she’d crave some sack time with KangaWsst, as well. I’m sure Kim Kartrashian would ask Mama Kris, who would instantly approve of the publicity value.

        • Actually pirruris, I am not a fan of Sarah Palin, but she never said “I can see Russia from my window.” Tina Fey said that in an hilarious skit. LOL.

          • @Claire

            I don’t know why you aren’t a fan of Sarah Palin.

            You think alike.

            You talk alike.

            You both make up stuff about the ‘libruls’ and the ‘hate’ just oozes out of every pore in both of yer comments.

            And, you are both the butt of jokes that you write for us.

            You make our work so much easier.

            That you aren’t a fan of hers is totally irrelevant. It’s as if Ann Coulter wasn’t a fan of Donald Trump. Doesn’t matter when they both say the same kind of nonsense.

          • Okay, i’ll give you that. But Sarah Palin is the same ond that did not know that Africa was a continent and not a country.

          • The reason the skit worked is because Palin said plenty of things that were that dumb, including the suggestion that she was the most experienced foreign policy candidate based on the proximity of Russia to Alaska…right before she demonstrated that she could not name a US newspaper.

          • Despite all of Claire’s and Lady Liberty’s holier-than-thou comments on this site, they are actually just as hateful and divisive as those they criticize for being so.

            They are no different than the Ann Coulters, Donald Trumps, Sarah Palins, Chris Christies, and even the Limbaughs and the Levins on the right with their attitudes and responses to others.

            All that holiness is just their shield to hide behind.

            The irony is that they aren’t even capable of seeing their own hypocrisy in the matter.

            They just keep doing more of the same expecting different results.

            Has either of them brought anyone over to ‘see the light’ and become a faithful person of God like they pretend to be?

            They do more harm to religion than all the atheists and ‘secular progresses/liberals’ put together and apparently they’ll never learn as this Kim Davis person is illustrating for all to see.

          • Latest from dingbat Sarah…she “wouldn’t mind” being energy secretary in a Trump administration. She couldn’t qualify to be MY secretary, and I don’t even have a job. Trump had to laugh himself sick.

          • Sarah Palin interviewed Trump the other day. Sorry I missed it.

            I’ll bet 2 5th graders could have had a more intelligent discussion on any issue than those 2 fools.

            But, he’s leading the GOP right now while the senators and governors with (Rs) behind their names are at the back of the pack.

            What a party. A “Dead Man’s Party” with my apologies to Oingo Boingo. They predicted it however.

          • “Liberals have more gray matter in a part of the brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative brain is bigger in the section linked to fear.”

            Look around you.

            This can help explain why some of the discussions on this site are the way they are and also why Congress can’t get anything done.

            Just consider the ‘complexity’ of the Iran Deal and how President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry are handling it compared to how those on the right are so fearful that they can’t even think straight. They were afraid before they even saw the ‘Deal’.

            Liberal and conservatives brains are built different. I’d rather have a president with a liberal brain than one who is constantly afraid.

      • This can’t be repeated often enough but I’ll try as we approach the upcoming presidential election when our right wing friends post their so-called ‘facts’.

        Recessions Since 1950 and Party in WH at Onset

        Jul 1953 – May 1954 Republican
        Aug 1957 – Apr 1958 Republican
        Apr 1960 – Feb 1961 Republican
        Dec 1969 – Nov 1970 Republican
        Nov 1973 – Mar 1975 Republican
        Jan 1980 – July 1980 Democrat
        Jul 1981 – Nov 1982 Republican
        Jul 1990 – Mar 1991 Republican
        Mar 2001 – Nov 2001 Republican
        Dec 2007- Jun 2009 Republican

        There have been 22 recessions since 1900.
        16 have started under Republican leadership, 6 under Democrat leadership and the 2 worst 1929 and now when Repubs had control of WH and congress for more than 8 years(the only times in history)
        http://www.nber.org/cycles.html
        Given Repub economic history, the 2 largest depressions in our history, the only 2 times they have had control of congress and WH for more than 8 years.. why does anyone listen to them on economics, when they never show supporting economic data.. just beliefs.

        Yes, ‘beliefs’. The GOP is the ‘faith-based party’. They ‘believe’ that trickle economics works and that cutting taxes on the 1% magically creates jobs but raising minimum wages doesn’t help anyone.

        I would add that the recessions and downturns in the stock market since Reagan haven’t been the normal business cycle recessions but the results of fraud, scams, lack of regulations, schemes and more scams which the right seems to love.

        And, they promise more if elected.

    • Claire

      September 1, 2015 at 7:34 pm

      It’s all an illusion! You’re the only one that mentions Fox news, over and over and over again. I don’t watch T.V. because it is all biased infotainment. But you do-that’s all you talk about. Someone with no credibility telling someone else they’re not credible. you just spin your wheels, going nowhere with the same old, same old. It’s all out of my hands Bill. Why don’t you stop letting me take up so much of that free space in your head.

    • August 27, 2015 at 1:03 pm

      Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, and James Monroe all worked to correct the “forged and fraudulent” Treaty of Tripoli floating in the Arabic world at that time. And none of those men were atheists, although Thomas Jefferson was accused of being an atheist which he was not. The other derogatory words directed at me don’t matter one bit.

    • Claire

      September 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm

      “A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.” C.S. Lewis

    • @Claire

      You bring so much joy and happiness to this site, dear lady.

      Please, do go on and on.

      Clare de Loon

  19. Someone suggested thal all murders of police officers be federal crimes.

    I would add to that that all killings by police officers be handled by independent prosecutors.

    That seems fair to both sides unless there are better suggestions.

  20. definition of a hypocrite: someone who sues a company for working people overtime without pay, then brags that his city employees work overtime without pay. sound like anyone we know?

    • Sounds like “Car Wreck” Parris to me! And that jerko advertises on Time-Warner about his labor law services! What working person in his/her right mind would choose “Car Wreck” to go up against ANY employer???

  21. @Tim Scott RE: discrimination.

    “A good example of how, even in our country, assimilation didn’t happen — and it has been a disaster for the people — has been the Native American population on the reservations. If they were assimilated, within a decade they’d probably be doing as well as the rest of us. But instead, seclusion and isolating them — we took their land, and then we put them all on small quadrants of land.” Rand Paul

    Similar way of thinking expressed by a true government agent! Guess we were just complaining when we called it the trail of tears. Natives are the least common denominator in a country that’s ever so concerned about offending people. We are the origin of north American culture, yet other than discriminating thanksgiving plays at school, we don’t even get to learn about them. We are not mascots, but there are arguments about changing hurtful slurs called professional teams.

    • I think Rand Paul, generally speaking, is an idiot. But that aside…

      Native Americans got screwed when the Europeans came to town. I will never argue against that. People of Native American descent who don’t “look like white people” suffer the same systemic discrimination as everyone else who don’t look like white people. I will never argue against that. In order to get justice Native Americans will have to fight just as hard as any other discriminated against people will. I will never argue against that.

      So, you’ve been defecated upon, in a general way, by the descendants of Europeans. Welcome to planet Earth. If you feel inclined to fight for justice and equal treatment let me know. I was born with all the privilege a white skin and blue eyes can bring, but I’m well aware of it and generally willing to fight for a good cause.

    • You’re like the thief who isn’t the least bit sorry he stole, but you’re terribly, terribly sorry you’re going to jail…..R. Butler

  23. “A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.” C.S. Lewis

    • Is there some meaning associated with this out of context quotation, or is it just some sort of homage to CSLewis? Is it his birthday maybe? Off to check!

      • Nope. Born in November.

        Okay, back to the original question…does this out of context quote have some current day connection to our fair valley?

        • Absolutely nothing to do with this valley! You’re out of context most of the time. You know when you’re so caught up with your own agenda, instead of sticking to what the article is about. Take that finger of yours and point it back at yourself.

          • And, exactly what was the ‘article’ about that your comment referred to Claire, a new zoning ordinance, upcoming local elections, graffite abatement, etc.?

            I think yer losin’ it and just flying off the handle at everyone which is a hoot to watch.

            Keep it up. Since there isn’t a comics section in this online ‘newspaper’, you’ll have to do.

  24. The severe beating of a corpse, as presented to you by Bill. The beast’s crime?! Nothing more than partaking in the race. Watch your interest wane with every sickening thud, your eyes wander with every unnecessary blow. This spectacle of embarrassment, dare I say, bitterness, is brought to you not for a lone night; but an incessant showing for the years, nay, decades!

    Lo and behold and your fool now…

  25. WHERE WAS THAT FIRE LAST NIGHT IT SURE WAS STRONG SMELLING LIKE BURNING TIRES ON THE EAST SIDE OF LANCASTER. MAYBE IT WAS THAT COUNCILMAN TAKING OFF TO ROSAMOND,

    • It appears that the esteemed Ronald Smith is stepping down from his very vocal seat on the Lancaster City Council. We knew he fell out of favor with Mayor Parris so this convenient arrangement helps clear a spot for another Parris yes man or woman, and provides Smith with much needed income. Smith’s vast experience in graphic design and rear door security will reap bountiful rewards for the Rosamond Community Services District. It is no wonder that Board President Ed MacKay said Smith was “the most qualified of the candidates,” despite the fact that Claude Seal possessed actual hands on experience in this field. Seal, however, was not a graphic designer, nor did he have experience in fleeing a dangerous situation to cover the back door.

  26. I came across a funny bumper sticker today. It said, “end socialism, vote republican”. This happened while a woman, droped off her kids, at the public school, funded by this socialist government. LOL. Do republicans even know what socialism is?

    • They live in a different reality. You’ve heard of little kids with invisible friends. Well, they’ve got the same type of fantasies about things, reality be damned.

        • Just watched another county clerk in Kentucky, Casey Davis, who refuses to issue marriage licenses because he opposes same-sex marriages which are now legal, constitutional and included in Merriam-Webster’s definition of marriage.

          He acted so retarded that I felt sorry for him. But, he believes the same stuff as Lady Liberty. What separates them is maybe a couple thousand miles.

          I wonder if Lady Liberty thinks she’s smarter than I am.

          I’d love to hear her answer to that question.

          • Technically the SCOTUS cannot create law, therefore the marriages are void. The U.S. Constition does not currently state that these marriages are legal. The U.S. Congress is the the only branch of government that can create law.

          • LOL…okay, that’s an incredibly weak argument. There has been no “creation” of law. The SCOTUS did exactly its job. It was presented with a case determined in a lower court under existing law, and interpreted whether that case was judged correctly based on existing law.

            What is lacking in US law is ANYTHING stating what the Cristian Sharia clowns are always spouting, that “marriage is between a man and a woman”. Since that is NOT written in law anywhere, courts cannot just pretend that it is, because THAT would be creating law.

          • @libertyfan (I can’t believe there is such a thing)

            ‘Technically’ the Supreme Court can decide a law, any law, is unconstitutional if that is what they decide. They have the last work as written in the Constitution.

            Now, amendments can be added but until they are, the Supreme Court’s decision is the law. Kim Davis is in contempt of court and it has nothing to do with religion.

            Didn’t you know that, libertyfan?

            What exactly do you think the Supreme Court does when it takes a case, simply rubber stamp it?

            The right in this country constantly talks about the Constitution but fails to understand it when it doesn’t go their way. Then, they say it’s a bunch of unelected lawyers. What idiots we have in this country.

          • William, that Kathy Bates look a like lady, is now in jail. Why oh why, do republicans keep trying to mix religion with polittics? If we were to follow the bible, by the letter….Sarah Palin’s daughter should have been stoned already for having, kids out of wedlock.

          • “Libertyfan” proves my earlier reply to an earlier comment that all the Republicans I’ve met in this desert dump over the years are complete idiots. “Libertyfan” is yet another to add to the list.

    • Anyone that has faith in the hookum of the bipartisan system truly believes that his/her party is infallible on a normal basis any way. Those blind majority sure do make the elections predictable. Trump is a horrible person, but gains popularity by not having to pretend he’s a politician like the rest of the normal candidates. Everyone already knows he’s a sellout to the most money offered. The usual presidents always have to try hard to cover their corporate agenda, where trump uses that to his advantage. They’re all a big vat of liars in the end.

      “Dale, the NRA is a Washington DC based group. Are you saying you support Washington DC?”

      • Dittohead soundbite of absolutely no substance contributed by Lady Liberty.

        Our economy cannot be even loosely described as socialism.

        Our form of government in no way resembles a dictatorship.

        Flying in the face of such obvious facts is clearly no deterrent to the parroting dittohead.

      • Lady liberty, of course you know what socialism is, you and you kids have benefited from it when you attended free public schools, got free lunches, tuition assistance, grants, etc. Your problem is not getting the free stuff, your problem is seeing other people get the same socialist programs. It is that greedy republican mentality….as long as i got mine…screw everyone else. Please tell us all how is Obama a dictator? I would like to know what you do or did for a living.i

        • Pirruris, public schools aren’t free. The tax payers pay for them. I never received free lunches, grants or tuition. You forget I’m a republican so I have worked for 50 years for everything I have. Maybe you are the one getting the free stuff because you are a democrat. Obama is a socialist. He’s against capitalism. He is for the redistribution of wealth. Taking money from people who work hard to provide for their families and giving it to people who don’t want to work and expect a free handout. He is also a dictator, a ruler who wields absolute authority, he makes laws without restraint by a legislative assembly. He doesn’t do the will of the people he does his own agenda. Pirruris you need to stop blaming the republicans and get out there and work. 1,2 and maybe 3 jobs if you need to. Take care of yourself and don’t look for handouts.

          • Lady liberty, exactly my point….public schools are paid by our tax dollars, so why would someone be running around with a bumper sticker advocating to to get rid of of the government funded public schools. Now, if that lady would have dropped off her kids at a private school…then that would have been a different story. It is like you (lady liberty) receiving that socialist social security check, and still wanting to get rid of social security. By the way, you still have not told us what exactly did you do working hard for the last 50 years. I am willing to bet that you had a cushy job with the ugly socialiast governmemt or public school distric. Also, do you really believe that democrats don’ work? In case you did not know,most of thepeople that depend on government assistance are republikkkans like you from red states.

          • Pirruris, as always you are wrong again. The reason people don’t like public schools is they are failing miserably. I don’t collect social security. I didn’t have a job with the government or state. In my life I have worked 3 jobs at the same time. I’m still working and don’t plan on quitting. Who wants to sit around and do nothing, oh I forgot the democrats do. I’m sure you know nothing about working you probably don’t even have 1 job since you know so much about government freebies. What about all the illegals on government assistance. Where do you get your statics? From which liberal site?

        • Please, pirruris

          You’re asking Lady Liberty to ‘think’ and give an ‘intelligent’ response to a question.

          She can’t. She won’t. It’s impossible for her to do that. I’ve read her comments for months and they are gibberish, right wing ‘copy and paste’ gibberish with a touch of religious righteousness thrown in to hide behind.

          A 5th grader could carry on a discussion on any topic more intelligently than Lady Liberty or Claire. They are taught ‘facts’ in schools while these 2 are living in a ‘faith-based’ reality where what their leaders say is gospel.

          • Sophomoric, and well, sad and hilarious at the same time. You don’t even know that you don’t know. You’ve been talking the same nonsense for years. Just a purveyor of hate since you’ve been talking, and you really get your bigot on when you have back-up. You know, the gaggle of bigots session. Just a suggestion Bill, why don’t you cut and paste your own comments starting from 2011 so people can see the bigotry that emanates from that dark heart of yours. You probably don’t want it staring in your face, just how repulsive you can get.

          • Claire,

            You can be counted on to be a hypocrite every single time you type.

            You were FOREWARNED, weren’t you and you got banned?

          • Here’s ‘hilarious and sad’ for ya, Claire.

            Claire
            August 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm

            “Secularism, the belief system in itself, by doing away with God in turn sets itself up as God. Secularism is destroying America.”

            What kind of mind writes this nonsense? Oh, wait. It says there right above the nonsense.

          • Claire, listen up. I’m not joking.

            You are by now certainly familiar with the common definition of ‘insanity’.

            You are with those folks who wanted to have an ‘autopsy’ after their 2012 loss and to have outreach to minorities, especially the Latino community.

            So, what have they done besides insult and alienate the Latino community and minorities in general. In addition, they’ve offended them with their attempts at voter suppression in many ways other than simple vote ID requirements. If you don’t know that, you are being purposefully ignorant of the facts.

            They’ve complained incessantly about the debt although it wasn’t a problem for them during the previous non-Democratic white administration. Yet, they keep calling for tax cuts on the wealthy and have shut down the government wasting many billions of dollars.

            Although after gun related massacres such as Sandyhook, when 80-90% of Americans favor stricter universal background checks on gun sales, the GOP bows down to the NRA lobby and the issue goes nowhere.

            They constantly try to limit and restrict women’s access to abortion, a legal medical procedure, and other reproductive health issues while pretending that is not a ‘War on Women’ while simultaneously calling sales clerks saying “Happy Holidays” which has been traditional since I was a kid in the 50s and likely before that during the entire month of December as the nonsensical ‘War on Christmas’, a 1 day holiday during which most retail establishments are closed anyway if you want to get technical about it.

            They want to restrict access to abortion while at the same time cutting benefits to single mothers and children. They seem to want women with unwanted pregnancies for whatever reason to be ‘punished’ yes, punished by having to carry the pregnancies to term. That is done in war torn countries as well when enemy soldiers rape women and force them to bear the offspring as was done in Bosnia in the 90s.

            The right wants the power of the state to force women to carry unwanted pregnancies, even from rape and incest, to be carried to term. THAT’S the limited government they keep talking about????

            They call themselves Christians but so many of their domestic economic policies such as raising the minimum wage, they oppose and favor policies which hurt the poor and working poor. Some fine Christians, they are.

            Over and over, every single right wing position is contradicted by facts, historical failures and their own conflicting positions from other factions of the party.

            Right now, Donald Trump is blaming the President because we are spending money all over the planet protecting South Korea, Japan, Germany etc. with our expensive bases while the other side of the GOP mouth is blaming him for leading from behind or not leading at all. He’s been called both ‘Hitler’ and ‘Chamberlain’ by them. What is the matter with the right wingers?

            And so on. I’ve concluded that the GOP/right wing/tea partiers/fox ‘news’ et al are simply suffering from a mental pathology. What else can explain such bizarre and dysfunctional behavior such as voting against their own ideas if the President signs on to them which is what they’ve doen over and over.

            And, you come here spouting many of those right wing notions such as ‘secular liberalism’ is undermining the country which is simply not true and is itself a divisive and damaging thing for you to keep repeating.

            Yet, you call pointing all that out to you and the others, ‘hateful’. Do you know what it means to ‘project’ your own attitudes and feelings onto others? It is called ‘projection’ and that’s what you do.

            Every time. You call out people for name calling while you call them names like ‘flaming bigots’. That’s called hypocrisy and I just gave you an example of you doing it.

            Now, you can wise up or continue what you’ve been doing for many months and I’ll call you out on it each and every time. Otherwise, you are actually demonstrating the definition of insanity by doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results just as the GOP is and has been doing.

            I’d say it’s your ‘choice’ but if you are compelled to keep doing it, it’s no longer a ‘choice’. It’s a pathology as I stated above.

    • Most Republicans that I’ve met out in this dump are complete idiots. Logic escapes them with every attempt to use it.

  27. The GOP has 17 official candidates for president.

    After the RNC convention next summer, there will be 17 losers.

    Yes, 17. The nominee will lose next November.

    How sad for Lady Liberty, Claire, Wb/RG et al.

    So very sad.

    Then, there will be 4 more years of their kvetching and whining and kvetching as they’ve been doing the last 6 years. And, whining.

    What a miserable existence but I’m glad it’s theirs and not mine.

    • Yeah, Dionne here has been viewing his Crystal ball to closely and has lost sight in everything with credit.

      • Well, Psychic Friends

        My predictions here on the Times site was correct when I said that President Obama was going to win in 2012 when he told Mitt Romney, “Please proceed, governor.” in their second debate.

        I was correct back in 2005 when I was predicting that we were headed for a big crash soon while everyone was being told to “Go shopping.” by ‘W’.

        So, I trust my instincts.

        How ’bout you? Are you gonna wake up tomorrow? We’ll start you off with something easy.

        • Sounds like you should have been an economist for Fox/Cnn. But here you are on some local electronic media with loose figures and world wide knowledge of the future polls and events!

          • You betcha!

            I, uh, notice that you are here too instead of at some think tank.

            But, then again, you haven’t written anything worth anything, have you?

          • Note that there IS more accurate economic, political, and historical information in the comments section here than is likely to be found on Faux News, so this is not the worst place to spend one’s time.

        • Define worth, Billy. The ability to sound like every other party member? Maybe the constant banter towards others? No, I’m no great thinker, I’m just a working class actuary for a certain insurance company. My mind isn’t able to deal with bipartisanship like you and your esteemed followers. I try to think on rational terms. Probability is one thing. What your predicting is something else.

          • Well, psychic ‘friends’?

            Your comment made little or no sense whatsoever.

            You aren’t even trying.

        • I’m an amateur statistician who’s developed an algorithm that’s actually beat Nate Silver three times now, and has called every national election, as well as the Senate elections, on the button for the last twelve. I believe that although it’s far too early to be calling shots for the ’16 cycle, I tend to think William has it right. Jebbie Bush is tainted by the stench of his family; Trump’s just doing this as media masturbation since his idiotic show was cancelled, and the rest in the current COP Clown Car are unelectable. which will leave EITHER HRC or Biden as formidable contenders. I also already predict that the Democrats will retake the 2016 Senate class, no matter who winds the White House. My credentials are my accuracy record. The ONLY candidate the GOP has who can beat those two is Kasich, and he has a very big “likeability” problem, worse than Giuliani’s, that he’ll somehow have to overcome. The rest are non-starters, mooned and fawned over church nutter, pro-corporatist and KKK fruitcakes on the Right the same way that independent Bernie Sanders is being mooned and fawned over by the whiney white women, the black poverty pimps and the sucker socialist fruitcakes on the Left. The question is, and only should be, can Biden actually win? I believe he can, based on the longevity of his favorability rating, which has been well over 60% for years now. The right likes to point to Benghazi as the death knell for HRC. Reality says that Benghazi and Gowdy’s dog and pony shows on the Hill will NOT matter by next November. Remember how Issa was such a kingmaker (by his own description)? Where’s Darrel NOW? Check the toilet; he’s in there. Gowdy will go the same way.

          • @DeserT BoB

            Consider this. Bill and Hillary came out of the impeachment nonsense in 1998 more powerful and popular than ever.

            Consider that despite over 2 years of fox ‘news’ and the GOP spending countless prime time hours promoting the Benghazi scandal, the republican led House Intelligence Committee found NO WRONG DOING, NO COVER UP AND NO STAND DOWN ORDERS GIVEN. Neither did the other dozen or so hearings/investigations.

            Despite the report, the republicans ignored it and kept on trying to find the ‘smoking gun’.

            Consider that Hillary might know that there’s no ‘there’ there with the emails or she might not continue with her campaign if there was a ‘smoking gun’ to be discovered. So, she’s just continuing as she’s done before when there was no ‘there’ with all the other invented ‘scandals’ from the right.

            Meanwhile, suckers such as our ‘friends’ here on the AV Times site swallow all the right wing garbage shoved down their throats and go “Yummy!”.

            Bottom line. I trust Hillary with all her faults more than any single one of the 17 republican nutjobs campaigning for the GOP nomination. They have nothing to offer this country but more problems like the last GOP president and Congress did from 2001-2007.

            Egads! No more republicans. Let them have Lancaster to themselves. See how that turned out run by conservatives and church people.

    • I concur. The republican party is in a world of hurt. Not only are they going to lose the presidential election, but also seats on congress. I am crossing my fingers that the anchor hisband Donald Trump gets nominated as the runlican cadidate so the democrats beat him like drum. Republicans need to change their ways if they evet want to win elections.

  28. Im getting tired of ignorant people.

    Alot of people with disabilities act out or behave in a way that offends some people, being disabled is beyond their control, and how they act out in society, weather its flailing their arms while sitting in a wheelchair, or how they mentally think. Meds dont cure mentally handicapped people, it does with some mental illnesses, but putting someone on meds 24 hours just stop a behavior does the handicap person an injustice.

  29. According to Public Policy Polling (PPP) done in August, these are some results.

    29% of republican voters think President Obama wasn’t born in the United States (Hawaii was a new state at the time Barack Obama was born there)

    40% of republican voters think Ted Cruz was born in the United States. He was actually born in Canada.

    How can this be? Now, do you understand why republicans get so much mocking and criticism for being ‘low information voters’. With all of our modern information technology how can people be so uninformed?

    I suspect that is the nature of ‘belief’. If people ‘belief’ anything, no amount of evidence can dislodge that belief. You can’t get there from here with them whether it’s birthers, Holocaust deniers, moon landing was a hoax, and WMDs in Iraq. Lancaster was once the headquarters for the Flat Earth Society. Imagine that. How little has changed in that city.

    Don’t believe me.

    “The International Flat Earth Research Society (IFERS), the first modern Flat Earth society organization, was founded by Englishman Samuel Shenton in 1956[9] and was later led by American Charles K. Johnson, who based the organization in his home town of Lancaster, California.” from Wikipedia Recently, Lancaster’s mayor said a Palmdale power plant was ‘going to kill the children’ based on no evidence. It was a lie.

    if you don’t trust Wikipedia, post your source.

    Hopefully, the uninformed GOP base will lose them another presidential election as it should. We can’t have poorly informed or un- or misinformed voters dictating the course of this republic or we are headed for more problems. Haven’t we had enough of their policies?

    • William, awesome pol.whos barry soetoro and why did he change his name.also every, and I mean every pol, amoung dems and rep, disapproval for barrack is higher than approval.

      • This is an outright lie.

        Obama’s overall approval rating on the latest Gallup polls is 47 with a disapproval of 48. That is composed of a huge balance of approval among Democrats (80% plus) balancing the near universal hatred from Republicans. Claims that polls of Democrats come back as unfavorable is such a whopper as to be just ludicrous.

        If you are going to lie you need to learn to at least say stuff that might be plausible. This is like “the dog ate my homework” when the teacher already knows you don’t have a dog.

        • Tim, I said his disapproval is higher than approval.you just confirmed it with the same numbers, uh, thanks?

          • Anyone who is interested can look back and see that your claim included “among democrats” Wb. Don’t let the regularity of Republican efforts to revise history carry you away into thinking you can retroactively change what you said ON THE SAME FORUM PAGE. It just never works.

            For those who don’t feel like scrolling up:
            “every, and I mean every pol, amoung dems and rep, disapproval for barrack is higher than approval.”
            – Wb

            Gee unca Wb, tell us another whopper, pleeeeeeeeze!

      • @Wb/RG

        Are you one of the 40% of republicans that think Ted Cruz was born in the U.S.?

        Are you one of the 29% who think that President Obama wasn’t?

        Do you think that President Obama was to blame for the poor response to Hurricance Katrina like 29% of Louisiana rapublicans do and 3 years before he took office?

        You sure seem like you’d be included in those groups from reading your comments. I’m sure those folks think they know everything just like Wb/RG does.

        Don’t bother answering since you angrily dismissed my comment with the link to the crime stats graph. That’s why it’s useless having discussions with you or your friends here Claire, Lady Liberty et all.

        You demand answers to questions that you’ve already decided that you won’t accept any answers to. It’s a right wing/fox ‘news’ tactic that I’ve noticed for years. Questions. Questions. Questions.

        “Is President Obama the Devil?” Come back to fox ‘news’ after this commercial break and we’ll have a ‘fair and balanced’ discussion about that question. (sound familiar)

        But, you guys don’t want to hear answers unless they agree with you.

        And, speaking of names since you brought up the subject, why are you using both Wb and RG to post comments? You aren’t hiding it very well are you?

        • William, same thing you said yesterday.i dont give a crap where is he born, I stated a fact and that was it, all the other stuff you post from years and years and years ago, not sure anyone gives a crap about that, maybe tim.does anyone, since william doesnt know, does anyone know who barry soetoro is, and why he would change his name?

      • Wb you are right. All the polls I’ve seen have Obamas disapproval rating higher than than approval. The polls on the Iran deal are more Americans are against the deal than for it. Also obamacare more are against than for it now. Obama is a dictator. He doesn’t do the will of the people he does what is agenda is. The left always have their own polls primarily only democrats being polled. They lie with a straight face. Remember in 2012 when Harry Reid stood on the Senate floor and lied about Romney not paying taxes. Now Reid says he doesn’t regret the lie one bit because it helped elect Obama. Today It’s Hillary Clintons turn with lie after lie. They are the party of deception.

        • LOL…remember when all the Republicans said the polls are skewed and faked and lean left and can’t be trusted and Romney was going to win…and then he got creamed exactly as the polls had predicted that he would?

          • Tim Scott, you are correct. FOX news, the mouthpiece of the republican party played a key role in skewing the actual polls. Remember Dick Morris?

        • Lady liberty, and all the polls i have seen have the republicans losing the 2016 election. Democrats may even gain seats in congress.

    • Good points about some of the crazy ideas that have come from Lancaster. I thought with the demise of the IFERS founder, the nutty thoughts would stop, but now Mayor Parris has taken the reigns and has put Lancaster back on the maniac map with his birdies on the BLVD, children killing power plant, Bangladesh being wiped out by a cyclone, BLVD being better than Disneyland, Christian community, killing pit bulls, and on and on.

    • Donald Trump is pretty smart.

      He didn’t run in 2008 against Barack Obama.

      He didn’t run in 2012 against President Obama.

      He waited till the unemployment rate was down to little over 5%, the stock market more than doubled, the housing and auto industries recovered, we were out of Iraq and Afghanistan (virtually), millions of Americans now have health care coverage they couldn’t afford before, gay and lesbian Americans are now enjoying equal rights in the military and in marriage contracts licensed by the state and so on.

      • Now, Trump swoops in to ‘make America great again’, like during the Clinton years. The Cliinton years? Why, the only people doing great then were Bill and Monica but that’s a whole other story.

        Come to think of it, why weren’t 17 republicans running in 2008 and 2012 either?

        They all waited to come in after most of the Bush mess was cleaned up and to take credit for what, undoing everything?

        Same thing happened in 2000 when Bush inherited peace, prospertiy and a surplus and left us with 2 unfinished wars and a near depression. Those darn republicans want to do it all over again.

        Go GOP. Just go.

      • The real employment rate as of July 2015, 12.6% with 7.5 million part time employed not counted, 741,000 discouraged workers no longer looking for work not counted, 18% young people unemployed. U.S. Bureau of Labor Statics, U-6 report. Walmart just announced today they are cutting workers hours because of the minimum wage increase. The worst month for the stock market in three years. The auto and housing industries bailout costing millions to tax payers. Iraq and Afghanistan in turmoil. ISIS running ramped killing thousands. Obamacare raising premiums and taxes. There was always free health care in the U.S. If needed. The highest debt in our history with no plan on paying it down. The Supreme Court ( 9 unelected lawyers) over turning laws voted on by the public and throwing the constitution aside on gay marriage. No more religious liberty protection. The division in our Race relations worse now than before. Americans don’t trust government because of scandals and lies.

        • Still better than what was happening in January 2009 when President Obama took office.

          Lady Liberty always looks on, I mean ‘for’, the dark side. Apparently, her faith doesn’t allow for seeing the good anywhere at any time.

        • This is another right wing talking point that always cracks me up.

          Faux news looks at the unemployment rate going down and says “darn it, we can’t make a big deal out of that.” So they start casting around for some representation of unemployment that will show it going up. They don’t find any.

          But what they do find is that if they use THIS number that includes “discouraged workers” and such for the years under the Obama administration and THAT number, which has been used to represent unemployment for EVER they can in fact make Obama’s number higher.

          And the underinformed dittoheads start parroting, as usual, without ANY clue what they are even talking about. Get over it Liar Liberty. If you use ANY apples to apples comparison of economic measures the Obama era is HANDS DOWN a gigantic change for the better over the fiasco that following Republican policies brought down on our heads.

          • Why is Lady Liberty HATING on liberals all day, every day?

            Where are the JOBS, JOBS, JOBS that the GOP campaigned on and won majorities in both houses of Congress?

            Has she not noticed that the GOP base is just as angry with the republican party establishment as they are with the Democrats, hence, the Donald Trump traveling circus?

            How come she is blind to their incompetence and ineffectiveness while she HATES on the President and the Democrats? Congress’s rating is lower than herpes.

            Every day, it’s HATE, HATE, HATE from Lady Liberty. And, she uses misinformation and no links or sources to back up her HATE.

            Now, that’s some HATE goin’ on there at Lady Liberty’s keyboard. She must have HATE WIZARD installed on her computer to help her write her comments.

            She outta get out more and see that Americans are out shopping and going to movies and enjoying their lives while she kvetches about how bad everything is. Well, maybe, that’s just her life she’s using as a reference. It’s not mine.

        • Things are good, Lady Liberty.

          My bank just gave me $200 to switch from MasterCard to VISA if I spent $500 in the next 3 months.

          Well, that’s almost done. I got my car insurance invoice the next day and not only was it much lower than before, but I used up almost all that $500 towards the free $200 rebate by paying it and a trip to Von’s.

          Not bad. Things just keep on getting better and better.

          I

          • William, jobs, jobs, jobs, yes william, where are the jobs oblamer promised? Average income is lower than when he took office, jobs jobs jobs, lol

          • No, silly Wb, The GOP ran on jobs, jobs, jobs, then all they’ve done was try and repeal Obamacare and other nonsense.

            What has the GOP majority in Congress done since taking over?

            You keep talking out your rear every day here, Wb.

            The President doesn’t create jobs, especially with a do nothing Congress.

            Now, go ahead and say some more ignorant ‘Wb-isms’ for out entertainment.

            Or, have another hissy fit like the several you’ve had here before or should I just copy and paste them for ya?

            Icantellwhenyou’vereallylostitwithyourrunonsentenceswithnopunctuation.

        • I just don’t understand what circumstances Lady Liberty and Claire live in that is so dark and gloomy and miserable, yet, they are so faithful to their god. Why is he treating them so badly?

          I’d switch gods to another one that’s nicer, maybe Zeus or Odin. If ya gots a choice in gods, I’d pick one that empowers me to live a full, happy and safisfying life instead of one of lies and hate like some people here live that make one want to deprive others of their rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness under our system of laws and not some theocracy that ultimately does great harm to people as we can see around the globe.

          Nations that are governed by religion aren’t all that nice to live in if Lady Liberty has ever bothered to look around her.

          They know who they are. I know who they are. We all know who they are by now.

      • William, trump did mention the 100 million on welfare, 1 in 5 in poverty.you forgot those.china kicking our ass, 20 trillion in debt, by the time he leaves.rascism at all time highs.biggest tax increase in us history.lets iran build a bomb, and pays them 11 billion to do it.issis formed under his watch, burning, cutting heads off.more terrorist attacks on us soil on his watch.gm lost 33 million taxpayers money, chrysler owned by fiat.we are still in iraq and Afghanistan, nice try.with more troops on the way.healthcare prices rising, when he said they would go down 2500 avg.yep looking good.

        • Why do you continue making this comment WB? Are you hoping that if you just string together a bunch of lies maybe when most of them are refuted people will just get tired, and then they will believe the ones they haven’t gotten to yet?

          Doesn’t work that way. Most people, if they recognize one lie in the middle of such a pack, will just immediately figure they are all lies.

          • Cophater, because its true.just like your last post, just cuz you say it isnt, doesnt mean a thing.most of what you say is to convince you, you have very little clue of whats happening.how many people are unemployed then.not your 5.4% crap.cant wait till the cops get you, again

          • Tim, uncle tom has you pegged.you have nothing to add.i tried to think you were halfway intelligent, but I admit I was wrong.you and your buddy have nothing for anyone on here.you and billy should start your own google and Wikipedia group.non fact based fiction because you say so, theres the name.i have yer to hear anyone agree with or you with anyone but billy.so why do you bother.go away

    • William, i wonder how many republicans know that, Teodoro Rafael Cruz was not born in the United States? Where are all the birthers?

  30. President Obama did praise Kanye West, calling him the symbol of the Democratic party…the jackazz! Sure Kanye, no reason why you can’t be Democratic front-runner in the summer of 2020.

      • Kayne West is an idiot. A typical leftist who thinks the world revolves around him. Did anyone see the black lives matter protest this weekend. Walking the streets yelling “Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon” disgusting ignorant people. Lives matter. Martin Luther King would not agree with their destructive actions. Where is Obamas leadership on this? He cares more about global warming going to Alaska than trying to help with a solution to race relations. He has helped instagate a war on law enforcement. He is responsible with his silence.

    • Donald Trump is pretty smart.

      He didn’t run in 2008 against Barack Obama.

      He didn’t run in 2012 against President Obama.

      He waited till the unemployment rate was down to little over 5%, the stock market more than doubled, the housing and auto industries recovered, we were out of Iraq and Afghanistan (virtually), millions of Americans now have health care coverage they couldn’t afford before, gay and lesbian Americans are now enjoying equal rights in the military and in marriage contracts licensed by the state and so on.

      Now, Trump swoops in to ‘make America great again’, like during the Clinton years. The Cliinton years? Why, the only people doing great then were Bill and Monica but that’s a whole other story.

      Come to think of it, why weren’t 17 republicans running in 2008 and 2012 either?

      They all waited to come in after most of the Bush mess was cleaned up and to take credit for what, undoing everything?

      Same thing happened in 2000 when Bush inherited peace, prospertiy and a surplus and left us with 2 unfinished wars and a near depression. Those darn republicans want to do it all over again.

      Go GOP. Just go.

      Did I leave anything out or misstate anything? Is everything perfect? No. Is anyone claiming it’s perfect? No. Was it ever perfect? No.

      Why are some people on the right and far right both talking about American exceptionalism while saying how bad everything is and the country is in decline?

      Was it in decline in 2009 when President Obama was sworn in? How come these same folks weren’t saying that then? Oh, wait. They were consumed with making BHO a 1-term president and little more then and to this day even though he was re-elected. Is that wacky or what? They are still stuck in that thinking from January 2009 and it’s now 2015.

      These questions and more really are why the Readers Speak Out section was created, aren’t they?

      The debates over traffic accidents and local crime stories are available for discussion (?) under each article.

      And, how come when we are ‘down below’ in the Los Angeles basin or the San Fernando Valley and coming back home, we don’t say “we’re going up above”?

      Well, some questions can never be answered it seems.

      Now, I’m sure some of y’all have problems with the progress we’ve made in the last 6 years in so many sectors of the economy and social issues, but can’t you at least acknowledge that things have improved overall since 2009 when businesses were closing left and right here in the Antelope Valley and foreclosures soared and home values plummeted and things looked pretty bad. Remember?

      How much of the progress can be attributed to work done by the GOP in Congress whether in the minority or now in the majority, if you forget they shut down the government when they didn’t get their way? Help me as I can’t think of anything they did to help the country.

      • William again is only stating partial facts. The real unemployment rate is 12.6%. U.S. Bureau of Labor Statics states in its U-6 report July 2015 that 7.5 million part time workers are not counted. 741 million discouraged workers who have completely dropped out not counted. 18% of young people unemployed. Black unemployment has doubled. The stock market fell again. The worst month in three years. The auto and housing industries bailout costing millions to tax payers. Iraq and Afghanistan are in turmoil with ISIS killing thousands. Obamacare causing higher premiums and taxes. Lies about keeping your plan and doctor. Before Obamacare you could get free medical if you were low income. Walmart announced today that they are cutting employee hours because of the minimum wage increase. The Supreme Court (9 unelected lawyers ) go against the public voting against same sex marriage. They disregard the constitution of the U.S. There is no religious freedom. Race relations are much worse under Obama. Instead of uniting he is dividing. Scandals, lies and deceit is why the American people don’t trust our government.

        • Partial facts? Like this sudden fascination with the “real” unemployment rate when prior to this administration and the right wing desperation to make it look bad? That kind of “partial fact?”

        • Keep listening to your sources, Lady Liberty.

          Weren’t you assured that Mitt Romney won in 2012?

          The republicans have alienated nearly every group but the 1%; minorities, LGBT community, single women, the working poor, union members, intelligent people and so on.

          Then, like you do, they blame the Democrats and President Obama for being ‘divisive’. That’s rich, Lady Liberty.

          But, keep talkin’ yer talk. It will help sink the nominee/candidate next November.

          What intelligent person would vote for anyone you agree with or support?

          BTW Who is your favorite so far in the clown carcapades in the RNC circus tent? Trump? Jeb? Carson? Each one worse than the next.

          • At least none of the republicans are under investigation by the FBI with Liar as her nick name. She’s losing ground fast to Bernie Sanders.

          • LOL…you have GOT to be kidding here Liar Liberty!

            You literally CAN’T be trying to play the “pure as driven snow Republicans” card can you? I mean, I don’t get softball pitches straight down the middle like this at batting practice!

            Jack Abramoff…biggest congressional Scandal in over a century that took down more of the Republican leadership than can be counted on both hands.

            Rick Perry, who is still in the race though his campaign is on life support has been INDICTED by a Texas grand jury.

            Bob McConnell was expected to run, until he got convicted for taking bribes.

            What was it that torpedoed Chris Christie again?

            Rubio co owns property with a former congressman who got bounced after it was revealed that he funneled campaign funds into his pockets. Questions abound whether a similar arrangement accounts for Rubio’s half of the deal.

            That’s probably just the highlights of financial and criminal misdeeds, and doesn’t even approach the ENDLESS stream of ‘holier than all get out’ Republicans who have been caught with it out in the most embarrassing places.

            Seriously, the whole “oh my, what a scandal” nonsense is just too hilarious for words.

          • Poor, poor Lady Liberty with the short attention span.

            She doesn’t recall that the Clintons came out of the ‘trial by fire’ impeachment nonsense more powerful and popular than ever.

            Hillary is one tough lady.

            I’ve compared the Clintons to pea fowl. Pea fowl love to eat snakes like the Gingrich et al and especially poisonous snakes.

            That’s why pea cocks have those colorful feathers, from eating poisonous snakes like the way the Clintons have the poisonous republicans for lunch.

            Just keeping crying in your beer, Lady Liberty.

            You can’t answer “What happened to the Benghazi ‘scandal’ can you?”

        • You have no credibility, Lady Liberty.

          You can post your version of reality all day and all night. Typing it doesn’t make it real, Lady Liberty, much to your despair……and our amusement.

          You are as credible as Donald Trump saying his favorite book is the bible. Yeah, right.

          Same goes for you and what you ‘believe’ regarding any ‘facts’ or ‘truth’ you present to us. LOL and LOL some more.

          • @Claire, Lady Liberty, Wb/RG et al.

            Whatever happened to that Benghazi ‘scandal’ after about a dozen hearings/investigations and hundreds of prime time hours on fox ‘news’ promoting it?

            So, what was the final outcome of that tragedy that your side used for political witch hunting?

            Anything?

            Nothing?

            Come on, Larry, Curly and Moe. Give us the ‘facts’.

            What did your right winger ‘news’ outlets conclude after all this time? You guys are always telling us about the ‘truth’ that only you 3 know.

          • It’s all an illusion! You’re the only one that mentions Fox news, over and over and over again. I don’t watch T.V. because it is all biased infotainment. But you do-that’s all you talk about. Someone with no credibility telling someone else they’re not credible. you just spin your wheels, going nowhere with the same old, same old. It’s all out of my hands Bill. Why don’t you stop letting me take up so much of that free space in your head.

          • Claire, you say you don’t watch teevee but everything you write and think is almost word-for-word from fox ‘news’.

            Y’see. It’s in the right winger bloodstream and you are infected.

            Of course, since you don’t watch it, you wouldn’t know that but it’s obvious to others.

          • Hey ya go, Claire. Where did you get ‘secular liberalism’ a variant of ‘secular progressives’? Did you ‘think’ that up yourself or what?

            from Wikipedia if you Google ‘secular progressive’ you get this.

            “Culture Warrior is a book by Fox News Channel political commentator Bill O’Reilly, published in the fall of 2006.[1] O’Reilly asserts that the United States is in the midst of a “culture war” between “traditionalists” and “secular-progressives”.”

            I told you that although you don’t watch the teevee machine, you are infected with fox ‘news’ nonsense such as O’Reilly’s stuff. Were you the one that posted something about Mark Levin or was that Lady Liberty? He is one evil person if there ever was one.

            O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Beck, Palin, etc. They are what’s ailing the GOP now. They helped create the tea party which morphed into the Trump Party. It’s the monster that will eat the GOP. Enjoy.

            No sane person buys your stuff. See my comment about Kim Davis, the county clerk in Kentucky. She’s like you and you’re like her.

            Claire, your ideological house of cards that you live in is so easy to knock down.

          • I take Claire at her word that she doesn’t watch TV. There are plenty of dittohead sites on the internet parroting off whatever Faux News tells them that she could be getting her stuff from. There’s talk radio parroting Faux News back and forth every day. Then there’s the “did you know” e-mail chains.

            That’s what being a dittohead is all about. They parrot the stuff out in all directions, back and forth, and they here the echos come back to themselves and take it as confirmation.

          • William, Tim you both keep knocking Fox News which you seem to be obsessed with. If it’s so bad why is it the #1 rated news show? It tramples MSNBC and CNN. I guess there are a lot of people out there watching it.

          • There certainly are. Uninformed people.

            According to a study done by business insider, Faux News viewers knew less about current events than viewers of any other network. In fact, they scored lower than people who said that they watched no news at all.

            Faux News provides entertainment to a niche market. They know their audience doesn’t want to know what is really going on. Their audience wants some good Obama bashing, true or not. They want some rants against liberals, whether they make any sense or not. They want some opinion shows from conservative presidential candidates, whether they got creamed in the election or not.

            Do you begin to understand why it seems like you are a Faux News fan Liar Liberty? You parrot off all that stuff they make up to satisfy their audience, constantly.

          • @Lady Liberty

            As I told Claire, whether she watches fox ‘news’ or not, it infects the entire GOP. You tool

            Everything you and Claire say is almost word-for-word down the line the same stuff that is said on fox ‘news’. Doesn’t matter if you watch it or not.

            Plus, fox has trained you like a trained seal to parrot its high ratings as its answer to everything. You just did it yourself.

            McDonald’s sells more burgers than The Habit but Consumer Reports’ survey showed that McDonald’s is at the very botton of over 20 burger chains regarding quality and The Habit, new to Palmdale, is rated #1 but sells just a fraction.

            (continued)

          • (continued from above)

            So, if you prefer quantity over quality in news reporting, Lady Liberty, fox is your place to go.

            Another survey showed that people who don’t even watch the news at all are better informed than fox ‘news’ viewers.

            fox won a Florida lawsuit about 10 years ago allowing a news organizations to lie and distort the news reporting under the free speech clause of the First Amendment. fox argued for the right to do that and you think that their high ratings means they are a trustworthy news outlet. That’s not the case.

            How easliy you are fooled and manipulated, Lady Liberty.

            Your and Claire’s comments and replies are rife with falsehoods, distortions and misinformation just like fox ‘news’ and that’s why I love to point that out.

            Apparently, it just doesn’t sink in for both of you. That’s the danger of ‘faith-based’ political ideology. Facts don’t matter to either of you if they conflict with your beliefs.

            You ‘believe’ in only man/woman marriage. Well, the ‘facts’ are that same-sex marriage is now legal and constitutional despite whatever you believe, as one example. There are many. Do you see how flimsy beliefs are in the 21st century?

          • So, if you prefer quantity over quality in news reporting, Lady Liberty, fox is your place to go.

            Another survey showed that people who don’t even watch the news at all are better informed than fox ‘news’ viewers.

            fox won a Florida lawsuit about 10 years ago allowing a news organizations to lie and distort the news reporting under the free speech clause of the First Amendment. fox argued for the right to do that and you think that their high ratings means they are a trustworthy news outlet. That’s not the case.

            How easliy you are fooled and manipulated, Lady Liberty.

            Your and Claire’s comments and replies are rife with falsehoods, distortions and misinformation just like fox ‘news’ and that’s why I love to point that out.

            Apparently, it just doesn’t sink in for both of you. That’s the danger of ‘faith-based’ political ideology. Facts don’t matter to either of you if they conflict with your beliefs.

            You ‘believe’ in only man/woman marriage. Well, the ‘facts’ are that same-sex marriage is now legal and constitutional despite whatever you believe, as one example. There are many. Do you see how flimsy beliefs are in the 21st century?

  31. What in tarnation is goin on round these parts? I reads that Ole Ronnie Smith has hired on up there in Rosa Mond to run there water company. Peoples is wonderin if Ole Ronnie is qualified to run a water company. Of coarse Ole Ronnie is qualified to run that there water company. Don’t cha know he’s been an expert in water his hole life. Why’s he been drinkin it since he was knee high to a grasshopper an he’s used it to warsh up and brush his teeth. Ole Ronnie knows his water. An the water company gets an extree bonus havin Ole Ronnie there. Iffen someone’s comes in through the front door packin heat, Ole Ronnie will have the back door covered

  32. Simple fact is you’re wrong. Deal with it and move on William! You tell other commenters and you have also told me that you’re smarter than us, but the truth is when you tell people you’re smarter than them, you know you’re really not–so thank you for the compliment! Also when you tell people that they’re stupid like you’ve told me, well, you know you are. Also you have accused me and many others over the last 4 plus years of being boozers, which really means that you are. And the beat goes on…..

    • Hey, Claire,
      I’m gonna do exactly what you do when you are proven wrong.

      Ignore it and go on. Isn’t that what you do?

    • ‘secular liberalism’. You invented that didn’t ya and when I posted Webster’s definitions, you just pretended you didn’t understand or whatever it is you do?

      I am smarter than you. Get used to it.

      I go with ‘facts’. Claire goes with ‘beliefs’. ‘Beliefs’ are real.

    • This is the kind of stuff that Claire posts.

      I don’t have to prove I’m smarter than she is.

      She proves it for me.

      “Claire
      August 24, 2015 at 2:17 pm

      Yes, secularism is destroying America!”

      What mindless nonsense she writes.

      • We only ask that you refrain from using obscenities or racial slurs, from engaging in personal attacks on other commenters.
        William and Timmy do this daily. The moderator just removed a lot of comments made to and about Timmy Scott, but everyone else is a free for all.

        They claim they are two different people, but Timmy and William could be twins…….lol

    • Thank you both, Claire and Lady Liberty, for bringing so much joy, happiness and warmth to this site.

      You two must be very wonderful people to take the time to share yourselves with us.

      And, Wb, keep on makin’ us laugh. You are so great.

  33. @Claire
    Read and learn for once.

    The official treaty was in Arabic text, and a translated version by Consul-General Barlow was ratified by the United States on June 10, 1797. Article 11 of the treaty was said to have not been part of the original Arabic version of the treaty; in its place is a letter from the Dey of Algiers to the Pasha of Tripoli. However, it is the English text which was ratified by Congress. Miller says, “the Barlow translation is that which was submitted to the Senate (American State Papers, Foreign Relations, II, 18-19) and which is printed in the Statutes at Large and in treaty collections generally; it is that English text which in the United States has always been deemed the text of the treaty.
    Here is Article 11
    Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims]; and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
    From Wikipedia

    As usual, Claire and others of her ilk, will re-interpret plain English to suit themselves and that is one of the dishonest and immoral things she/they do too often.
    It was passed unanimously in the Senate and signed by President Adams, who Claire says are all atheists. Another day, another lie by Claire.
    Funny how some people of faith think it’s okay to lie in the name of God. Claire proves that almost daily.

    • Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, and James Monroe all worked to correct the “forged and fraudulent” Treaty of Tripoli floating in the Arabic world at that time. And none of those men were atheists, although Thomas Jefferson was accused of being an atheist which he was not. The other derogatory words directed at me don’t matter one bit.

      • Didn’t you already accuse them of being atheists even though the Treaty of Tripoli was ratified unanimously in the Senate and signed by President Adams? Who wrote the Treaty? Which atheists.

        Once again, you are rewriting history, a dishonest thing to do and un-Christian to boot. But, should we expect anything else from you. You write untrue things here daily.

        If the Founding Fathers intended for this to be a Christian nation, they would have written it into the Constitution. The words Jesus Christ, Christian and Christianity do not appear in the document and it doesn’t matter how hard you pray, the words aren’t there.

        You make an ignorant fool of yourself insisting there are things that aren’t so regarding this country.

        • I thought Claire was going to ignore me but when presented with facts she can’t resist telling her made up nonsense from the right wing lie factory.

        • I accused the atheists of using the forged document to try to rewrite history, not the original document. You have reading comprehension problems and you’re confused. You can go ahead and be deceptive. The truth is that my last comment is exactly what happened. All of the great men in my last comment did exactly as I said. This has nothing to do with right or left. It’s about atheists that have used this forged document to try to change history.

          • If “we will not go to war over religious differences” is not really in the treaty, Claire, it certainly should be. Spreading death and destruction in the name of Christianity may be your religion, but it certainly isn’t part of mine.

          • What forged documents, Claire?

            What’s your source for that?

            You mean the Treaty of Tripoli is invalid?

            Let’s see your sources and proof.

            Your say so isn’t good enough for anyone but you.

          • I agree with you 100% on your facts. The leftist liberals always twist the truth to suit the propaganda they want to spew. William is totally brain dead so let’s you and I go back to ignoring him. It seems to get under his skin.

          • Lady Liberty hopes the economy falters so she can rejoice and blame the President.

            She wants Obamacare repealed causing needless suffering and early death for millions of Americans.

            And, then pretends to believe in God. What God supports that kind of sick mentality that Liberty exhibits?

            She is un-American and a total hypocrite. When presented with ‘facts’ Lady Liberty goes ‘brain dead’. She gloated when the market corrected last Friday and went silent when it recovered. Typical hypcrite.

            She can say all the nasty things she wants about me but the facts are there in her own words and they are hypocritical constantly.

            Well, actually she started brain dead and continues very well.

            Like I’ve said, she’s unfit for jury duty.

        • BTW Claire, do you notice how rarely you offer any sources or links to valid documentation for you claims?

          You just write comments and think you’re telling the TRUTH as you’ve claimed so many times.

          You are less and less credible with each comment, so keep going till you are at absolute zero on the Kelvin scale.

          When your comments are debunked, you just go ahead and make another false claim. What kind of pathology are you suffering from? You do no favors to the right side of the aisle when you keep posting falsehoods.

          You are just like rex parris. Full of it and hiding behind the flag and the bible while dishonoring both.

      • Where is Lady Liberty now that the stock market is coming back?

        She was hoping for a big crash so she could blame President Obama.

        What an un-patriotic person Lady Liberty is. Now that the market is recovering she’s gone silent.

        GOOD! Keep it that way, Lady Liberty. You write nothing but nonsense.

      • Donald Trump has said the bible is his favorite book over and over. His book on the deal was his second favorite. LOL

        When asked in an interview what verses are his favorites, he said that it was too personal and wouldn’t answer. LOL

        When asked whether he preferred the old or new testament, he said he liked them equally. LOL

        Does anyone believe that Trump has looked at a bible since he was in Sunday as a kid?

        He’s as dishonest about the bible as some of our posters here who like to cherry pick certain parts to use as weapons to make others wrong.

        Is that the purpose of the bible Claire, Lady Liberty, Joey B. et al?

        Y’all don’t seem to use it for any higher purpose than that.

        • I love Trump, his stupidity is quite entertaining. William, I also saw the news piece with the reporter asking him which were his favorite bible verses. Oh no, not a real question? The dumbaxx did not know what to respond and he retaliated with “it is private”. I can assure you Tantrum Trump has never opened a bible in his life, or else he would not fuel so much racism and hate. Trump pleeeeeaseeeee stop- just kidding- keep going, I don’t have to pay to watch a comedy show while you are still running for president, you are making this way too easy for my democratic party to win. (-:

          • By the way, if Tantrum Trump ever wins the presidential election I am deporting myself…..and I am a citizen of this country. Yep, I am selling all my properties and moving to Cuba or Costa Rica. Who is with me? LOL!

          • @WOW

            Right now, Trump is at a ‘not a fundraiser’ telling the crowd that the U.S. is leading everywhere, in South Korea, the Middle East, Ukraine, etc.

            He wants to know why we are doing everything while our aliies sit on their hands.

            Now, get this. While the crowd cheers this BS, out of the other side of the GOP mouth, President Obama is ‘leading from behind’ when he hangs back a bit and waits till there is a coalition with our allies.

            So, President Obama is also Hitler AND Chamberlain when it suits the republicans.

            No wonder we think they’ve lost their minds.

            All the GOP knows what to do is cheer ‘attacks’ on the President from both sides of any issue. Amazing, isn’t it?

            And, then, there are the dittoheads who comment here parroting the same stuff. When we call them on it or present them with ‘facts’, they call it ‘hate’.

            ‘Facts’ = ‘hate’. Now, I understand Claire, Lady Liberty, RG/Wb et al.

        • William, the anchor husband Donald Trump has no clue what the bible teaches. He is trying to cater to the bible thumpers. Someone needs to tell Trump that, of he is going tell people that he loves the bible, he needs to learn a couple verses from the bible. LOL.

          • Trump’s only association with the bible is the number of bibles placed in his hotels by the Gideons next to the remotes for watching the ‘adult’ channels.

            Too funny, them hypocrites.

            And, I love ‘anchor husband’.

    • Lady Liberty. Where are you hiding? Come tell us about Wall Street some more. We love your great analysis.

      • It was quoting excerpts from the Iran Resolution. You got something to prove otherwise?

        Bring it on.

    • Are Claire, Lady Liberty, Wb/RG waiting for forwarded right wing emails to arrive before they post anything today?

      That’s exactly what their posts smell like.

      • O.K. William, your comments are absurd and superfluous. You’re letting too many of us take up too much time in your head. Don’t be so concerned with what we’re doing, and just stay in your own lane. Thank you though for all the time you spend with us, but I have to check my e-mail. Lady Liberty, Wb, RG, I hope you all have a fun, conservative day! Peace to you all.

  34. I support Mayor Ledford and he is a Christian. I do not support Rex Parris! Rex Parris is a horrible Mayor. 14% voter turnout in Lancaster Ca. is appalling! Apathy is why Rex is Mayor.

    • unlike Parris, Ledford is inclusive. he does not single out any particular religion or non religion for favoritism like Parris does. a mayor needs to represent all the people not just one group. compassion and love go a long way. bullying and favoritism do not.

    • It is hard to measure apathy against the outright suppression of the vote that goes on in Lancaster.

    • You forgot to write that rex parris says he is a Christian too.

      There are lots of people who call themselves Christians, like you call yourself a person of faith, whatever it is, whose words prove otherwise.

      You are more like rex parris than Mayor Leford. Way more.

      Your comments sound just like a right wing partisan political hack who uses religion to make others wrong and yourself right. And, use the bible as a shield from criticism. Donald Trump says he’s a Christian. Have you heard him lately? Same with Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity who say the most offensive things. Ann Coulter too calls herself a Christian. There are loads of those phonys and I include you with them.

      Your comments have never shown any qualities associated with an authentic person of faith. Quite the opposite, Claire. You demean the faith.

      In fact, your coments re: Mayor Ledford mimic exactly what ‘bird’ used to write here before she vanished and you appeared. Same words/different username.

      • William i concur. Republicans love to use the bible as a shield for everything. Yet, turn arpund and do the opposite.

    • @Claire

      Please don’t soil Mayor Ledford’s name by associating yourself with him. I doubt he’d appreciate your holier-than-thou pontificating just as rex parris does.

      Mayor Ledford lives, actually lives, his faith and doesn’t blather about it like you do.

      Mayor Ledford is a gentleman and isn’t likely to say things like ‘secular liberalism’ is undermining the country as you did. He isn’t that way but you are, Claire.

      So, please don’t bring him down to your level. He is too good for your kind of religious divisiveness. He doesn’t play your kind of game.

      He is my mayor and I highly respect him as an elected official and as a person with integrity and a commitment to all of our residents here in Palmdale.

      So, back off. He’s nothing like your type of religious hypocrite.

  35. Oath of Office: It’s not in the Constitution: All but one President put his left hand on Bible or held the Bible while being sworn into Office.

  36. The Star Spangled Banner: The final stanza reads: “And this our motto: ‘In God is our Trust.’ And the Star Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.”

    • Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli does not exist in Arabic, and is a fraud perpetrated by Atheists. If you care about the truth do your research and you will learn the truth.

      • You lost it completely. A treaty passed by Congress and signed by President Adams is a fraud???

        You really need to get an education.

        Songs with God in them are not the Constution.

        You get worse and worse with each comment.

  37. The Dow closed up more than 600 points today, Lady Liberty

    U.S. stocks closed sharply higher, giving the stock market its best day in close to four years.

    Will Lady Liberty praise President Obama for that? She was hoping for a crash.

    Of course not. She’s the biggest hypocrite on this site and she has plenty of competition. Right Claire?

    Everything those 2 say can be debunked in seconds.

    • Are Tim Scott and William much smarter than Lady Liberty since they knew that the market decline on Monday and Friday was a correction?

      Meanwhile, Lady Liberty, who is no patriot, was hoping it would go further down so she could blame the President.

      Then, it went up 600 points today and she’s ignoring that information. Typical of her.

      • William,you are a market expert.lets see Monday morning you posted at 8 in the morning how the markets came roaring back,and show your behind.because the market finished down 205 points.you must be a lib financial wizard.fail

    • Sorry don’t know how to start a new thread.these are famous people who changed their name once they became Muslim.

      Malcom little (minister)became malcom x
      Louis Eugene wolcott (religious leader)became Louis farrakhan
      Fernandez Lewis alcinder (basketball)became kareem Abdul jabber
      Cassius marcellus clay(boxer)became muhammad Ali
      So why did barry soetoro (Columbia law student)change his name back to barrack hussein obama?

  38. Just saw this here post that there Get Parris Out of Lancaster Facebook:

    We saw this quote in Warfords column in the AVP. We only hope the city will get the needed help to the homeless instead of using sheriffs sweep to mask the issues.
    His Quote—
    ————————————————-
    There are mornings when Lancaster’s Jane Reynolds Park, where a homeless man was found dead the other day, looks like a “Hooverville,” the homeless encampments of the Great Depression.

    I thoughts that Ole Rex and Ole Marv stopped all them 67 homeless peoples a day from coming to Lancaster on the Metrolink trains. Maybe they’s was just blowin smoke about that wasn’t they?

    • We could help the homeless by dumping LEAPS.We could help the homeless by dumping LEAPS.Use the $90,000.00 a month wasted on LEAPS for some good.Use the $90,000.00 a month wasted on LEAPS for some good.Instead of just catching a Walmart shoplifter.Instead of just catching a Walmart shoplifter.Rex is wasting taxpayer money.Rex is wasting taxpayer money.$1,080,000.00 a year for ten years.$10,080,000.00 a year for ten years.Money that goes to his political friends.Money that goes to his political friends. Money that is wasted. Money that is wasted.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.

  39. “New data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) disproves allegations promoted by Fox News that the 2015 increase in Seattle’s minimum wage has destroyed restaurant jobs.” from an article on Media Matters today.

    There’s more to it. Media Matters uses facts to debunk the lies and distortions of fox ‘news’ and other right wing media outlets.

    The right hates Media Matters…………and facts.

  40. To The AV Fair Board..
    What a shame that the disabled, handicapped and Seniors are let off at the Turf Club parking lot then have to walk from there to the Main gate instead of having ride shares like (Dial a Ride, Access, etc.) drop them off at the entrance and return later to pick them up. Not that big a deal for the young and able but when it’s 101 degrees and you in a non motorized wheel chair, or 70+ years old that’s awful. I asked at the info booth and I was told to complain to the Fair Board.. Hopefully people will read this and join me to let them know it’s just not right and a change should be made.

  41. rex shows us why this country was founded on ‘secularism’ and not as a religous state.

    Claire is for what lends itself to what rex is doing, a state based on religion. See what a mess that makes.

    rex is why we have to be vigilant to keep the church and the state separated.

  42. More doublespeak in today’s AV Press from the mayor of Lancaster. If his recent video wasn’t enough to disturb anyone of any faith but his, then enjoy his comments in the article about potentially appointing undocumented workers to one of his many impotent commissions:

    “It’s a federal crime,” he said, noting that based on federal law the undocumented residents cannot be compensated financially for those positions. “A lot of our commissioners are paid, so it would be a federal crime.

    “I can’t envision me doing that, but I never say never. There might be a situation where the city needed the skills of somebody who turned out to be undocumented.

    “Personally, I don’t have this antipathy toward unauthorized workers. It’s time we recognized there are 11 million unauthorized residents in our country. And nobody is going to make them go home, if for no other reason than our economy would collapse if we did.

    “So, no, I wouldn’t (appoint an undocumented person) because it would be inappropriate under most circumstances. I can’t see a reason for doing it.

    “But, I always hate saying something like that for two reasons.

    “The first reason is we’re growing a Christian community where we love our neighbors and we don’t ask where they come from first.

    “The second reason, when it comes to improving the well-being of the hard-working families that live in or city, I’m willing to try anything.”

    Parris said he likes to keep an open mind.

    “There could come a time,” he added.

    Here’s a paraphrase. “No I won’t appoint an undocumented worker. It’s against the law. But then again I might. We’re growing a Christian community and we love our neighbors except for Palmdale and Santa Clarita so we don’t ask where they come from. I’m willing to try anything like claiming bird sounds on the BLVD make crime go away and spending $10 million of your tax dollars on my pal’s spy plane even though it ain’t worth a thing. So my answer is no but maybe yes.”

    • “The first reason is we’re growing a Christian community where we love our neighbors…” – rex parris

      I can’t believe he’s still saying that.

      He’s not been a good neighbor to Quartz Hill when he wanted to put a Walmart across from their high school. rex gets tha sales tax revenue and Quartz Hill gets the traffic and other problems but no compensation.

      He sues Palmdale over at-large council seat elections and makes a bundle in lawyer fees. The judge had to decrease the amount of the ‘reward’ that rex was asking for, poor thing.

      He lied about Palmdale’s proposed power plant saying that it will “kill the children”.

      He is trying to cause problems with the placement of the High Speed Rail station in Palmdale and has never supported it even though it will benefit the entire region.

      He is absolutely not a ‘good Christian neighbor’ and he’s lying when he says so.

      • It’s getting harder and harder telling authentic Christians who quietly go about their lives living their faith from the big mouth, lying and hypocritical ones who are always preaching to others to ‘do as they say, not as they do’.

        We have some of the latter here on this site who dishonor Christianity with their hypocrisy and selfishness while pretending that they are on the side of righteousness. Give us a break. You know who you are. I know who you are.

        • William, what would you know about being a Christian? Obviously absolutely nothing!! You are completely on the other end of the spectrum. To much hatred spewed out of your mouth.

          • @Joey B. You’re no Christian. Like I wrote above that it’s getting harder to tell authentic Christians from the big mouth ones……….like you.

          • Joey B—Please don’t internalize anything William says. He has been verbally abusive to a long list of people since 2011. What he thinks doesn’t matter. Please don’t take his bait because he likes baiting people.

          • Claire is a hypocrite and now wants others to join her in her hypocrisy.

            Go ahead, Joey B. It’s your neck.

            Does Claire want me to copy and paste some of her hateful comments under her name and her aliases?

          • Too much hatred spewed out of the mouth of William? Have you not listened to the vileness the comes forth from the mouth of Mayor R. Rex Parris? Bearing false witness against your neighbor was not one of the attributes that Jesus called blessed.

  45. Stccks come roaring back today.

    Now, who was it that got all freaked out when they fell the other day?

    Oh, that’s right ‘panic-stricken’ right winger, Lady Liberty.

    Will she now blame the come back on President Obama?

    She is so consistently wrong on everything.

    • Standard correction in an overvalued market. The numbers are bigger, because ALL the numbers are bigger (I remember the day the Dow first broke a thousand, and business sections of some newspapers were incapable of dealing with the four digit number). The China markets are still heavily overvalued, so a few more correction cycles like this should be expected.

      You see a sell off, with dropping prices. Then the sheep who shouldn’t be in the market in the first place panic a bit, selling too much and providing bargains for the intelligent investor. As the bargains get snapped up prices bounce back. The US market wasn’t significantly overvalued so prices should continue slowly back up towards where they were until the next major correction in China.

      This is amplified a little right now since Republican fearmongers are pushing really hard on the sheep since they want to turn everything or anything into a total collapse of the economy. After all, even if it caused an economic disaster of mind boggling proportions and people are starving in the streets…next year is an election year so it would be cause for celebration. Party before country; party before people; party uber alles! Right, Republicans?

  46. A Public Policy Polling survey found that 29% of republicans in Louisiana blamed President Obama for the poor response to Katrina which occurred 3 years before he took office.

    They have the same mentality as our Claire, Lady Liberty, Wb and, now, Quigley.

    Is it any wonder that the gaggle of 17 GOP candidates is the craziest bunch ever? Their base is those people in Louisiana and others like them.

  47. “My reading of history convinces me, most bad government has grown out of too much government.” Thomas Jefferson

    • A good reason for not supporting the Republicans, who have a history of growing government by leaps and bounds.

    • You and Thomas Jefferson are so right. That’s why President Eisehower warned us about the military-industrial complex that can only function as such with the help of a big government that, in that case, the GOP supports and some candidates are wanting to increase expenditures on defense, much of it wasteful.

      That’s why Democrats fight some elected officials who want to force women to have to view fetal ultrasounds or have vaginal probes with ultrasounds forced by big government.

      That’s why Democrats and liberals don’t want those with religious beliefs to use the power of the government to legislate those beliefs.

      That’s why Democrats and liberats don’t want corporations and/or anonymoous donors to political campaigns to buy elected officials to use the power of the government for their own purposes.

      And, so on.

      Claire once again unwittingly undermines her own comments. ‘unwitting’l being a very good description of Claire’s narrow and limited thinking on any topic.

    • Claire and Lady Liberty speak of ‘faith’. LOL

      I suspect that both oppose Obamacare that has and will save millions of American lives from unnecessary suffering and early deaths. They can’t even respond to that.

      Wb writes what amounts to graffiti here. Silly, right wing nonsense unsupported by any sources.

      These 3 stooges’ comments are less informed on history, science and social issues than you would find in a discussion in a 5th grade classroom by the students.

      Seriously.

    • Notice that although the ‘3 From Planet Crazy’ speak right winger word-for-word, they don’t defend or even support any of the 5,000 candidates running on the GOP ticket to nowhereville. And, Bush/Cheney no longer exist for them.

      Their candidates are all nutty and they are nutty because they are pandering to the nutty base such as Claire, Lady Liberty and Wb and, now, Quigley. You’d think these folks would be cheering them on except for 1 thing. They are all nutty and it’s obvioous even to our nuts here.

      Yup, these here folks are unfit for jury duty from reading their comments.

    • Another offensive comment by Claire.

      This country was founded on ‘secularism’. If you think otherwise Claire, look up the word as I already provided you a dictionary definition and still you persist.

      Or, look up the Treaty of Tripoli which states that this country is not a Christian country, passed by Congress and signed by President Adams.

      You need an education, otherwise you are destined to write nonsense forever.

    • Claire, the only ones destrying America are the greedy rich corporations, that are buying our government, changing the laws (deregulation), and shipping the jobs overseas. Stop listening to FOX news, the mouthpiece of the republican party.

  49. The best thing to do with Bill and Tim is to ignore their recalcitrant behavior. All of this childish nonsense only reveals how immature they are. So let them have their daily hissy fits, and continue on with their opinions. They have found each other and now they are going to tag team everyone with their name calling and bullying. Consider the two sources and know that they are two miserable people that have found each other.

    • You say this, and yet if we look at your comments at least nine out of ten of them do not mention or relate to any news item on the site and are just blasts at me or William, or more often both. This one being a perfect example.

      • Tim, look in the mirror.then you will know why everyone picks on you.but im sure its everyone elses fault

        • LOL…I actually know why the three stooges of this comments section “pick on me” and I’m actually surprised at how few of you there are. The AV has been die hard Republican for decades, fueled by the selfish but understandable reality that our local economy has always gone the way of defense spending.

          Growing up here I understood the meaning of “hold your nose republicanism.” The Republican stances on civil rights were repugnant, their free for all destruction of the environment policies were repugnant, their gross misconceptions about the behavior of the economy as a whole were disconcerting… but we held our noses and voted for our own wallets.

          But there were always plenty of people like you. Either so poorly educated that you could vote your wallet without noticing, or like Claire who couldn’t balance the truth against her self imaged morality so lives in a comfortable haze of denial. There were also plenty of people who were just so repugnant themselves that they had no problem saying “I vote my wallet and if it screws anyone else, great.”

          So, yeah, I knew this would be a place where I would stir up animosity pretty much automatically. I expected some at least moderately intelligent disputes, but pretty much haven’t gotten anything that wasn’t already completely discredited during the 2012 campaign. A bit disappointing, but still good practice for getting back in the swing of things.

          • Even if the 3 stooges don’t all live in Lancaster, they are a perfect fit for that city run by someone like rex.

            Wb lives there and gets butthurt if I criticize rex, the poor darling. He is so happy living there as his comments here show.

    • Go ahead, Claire, ignore me/us.

      By my/our guest.

      However, I still reserve the right to reply to your nonsensical comments because the response to offensive speech (yours) is more speech.

      I’ll bet you’ll now create new user IDs that have never commented before to write what you would have written. It will be obvious. You’ve done it before.

        • @pirruris

          Claire and Lady Liberty have consistently said offensive things about liberals, Democrats and the current administration, blaming it for all the ills of the world and the leftover messes of the Cheney/Bush team and then they have the nerve to hide behind their faith and pretend to be God fearing people.

          Plus, they accuse others and myself of being hateful while apparently unaware of the ugly things they say.

          I’ve said they’re hypocrites over and over and they keep coming back to prove it. Unwittingly.

    • BTW I don’t agree with Tim Scott on everything and I’m sure he doesn’t agree with me.

      But, Claire, Lady Liberty and Wb are sharing 1 tiny brain and are interchangeable as they all are on the right.

      Sometimes, I forget which one I’m replying to. Like I said, I could copy and paste one of their comments and replace the name with another one of them and you’d have trouble guessing who was who.

      That’s the right wing bubble mentality. Group think. None of them have the capacity for original thoughts and are obviously lacking the ‘humor’ gene, especially Lady Liberty, the town scold.

        • Wb
          The meds thing is such a tired cliche on the internet.

          Like I said, you guys have no original thoughts. You can’t have them. Your brains don’t work that way.

          • Did Lady Liberty have anything to say when the Dow went up 600+ points on Tuesday?

            She yammers all the time. Did I miss her reply?

  50. Imagine being on a jury with Claire, Lady Liberty and/or Wb.

    Evidence just don’t matter to them, no how. Their minds is already made up about everything. Made up before the judge’s rear hits his chair.

    That thought alone should keep you sleepless at night.

    The horror. The horror.

    • Any attorney that failed to identify them for what they are and have them not get paneled deserves to lose, and any poor clown caught with such an attorney just has to take their lumps. It’s a rough world.

      • That’s exactly what it’s like dealing with them thar conservatives.

        It finally clicked when I was watching a TCM preview of ‘Anatomy of a Murder’ but it coulda been any courtroom drama, especially ’12 Angry Men’ (and womens) that would have reminded me.

        Scene: jury room
        Man on trial for murder.

        Claire: “I believe he did it.”

        William: “But, that wasn’t his DNA on the knife.”

        Lady Liberty: “Socialism. He’s a socialist.”

        William: “What does that have to do with anything?”

        Wb: “Fluoride in the water. Are you gonna eat that donut?”

        William: “Let’s get back to the transcript.”

        Claire: “I’m hearing voices in my head. It’s God talking.”

        William: “Get me the heck outta here” banging on door.

        Claire: “William is a librul so the guy is guilty.”

        and so on.

        Wb is carving his initials in the tabletop and making farting noises with his hand in his armpit and Claire and Lady Liberty are lovin’ it.

        The jury foreman jumps out the window while Lady Liberty tears pages out of the transcript that she doesn’t approve of because they contain facts and they caused her to break out in a rash.

        Not only was it a hung jury but they shoulda hanged a couple of the jurors.

        I rest my case.

        • Wrong Again William, evidence does matter to me. But where I get my evidence is at a completely different place than you do. You have a closed mind. If someone doesn’t agree with your liberal leftist propaganda you start attacking them. I do believe you and Tim Scott are the two most disagreed with on this site.

          • Lady Liberty and evidence are like a vampire and a crucifix or holy water.

            I can just hear you saying when drenched in evidence, “I’m melting. I’m melting.” Well, ding dong.

            You’ve shown over and over that your so-called ‘evidence’ is nothing more the distorted or misleading right wing nonsense.

        • William, you rest your case, well that’s not all you need to rest. It must keep you up at night trying to be funny but again another failed attempt. You need your sleep man! You and Tim Scott are the two most disagreed with on this site. How does it feel for two men all alone on an island in the middle of know where.

          • We keep you busy, Lady Liberty, and off the streets.

            And, that’s a good thing.

            Being on a jury with you and the other 2 would be just as I described, life threatening.

            I told you that you were miserable and you keep coming back to prove it.

        • Kinda like, hillary doesnt have classified and top secret emails.shes innocent,case closed cuz william says.child.

          • Are you kidding? Growing government is Obama’s claim to fame. The largest debt ever, growing every second. Obama care hasn’t even completely kicked in yet. George W. Bush is in second behind Obama. So a liberal democrat is number one no matter what their calculated deception comes down to.

          • The courtroom drama perfectly describes you, Claire and Lady Liberty.

            I’d hate to be on a jury with you 3 where evidence and facts don’t matter, no how.

          • Hes gone off the deep end.listen to williams court room drama/novel.id hate for you to be on any jury william, first question from you would be….is the accused a republican or dem.thats how you base guilt or innocence

          • Juries are to consider only the evidence presented in court and not what Wb pulls out of his rear end which is the same stuff he posts here.

          • People like Claire, Wb and Lady Liberty are what cost the GOP the last 2 presidential elections.

            So, keep it up, you guys. You’re doing the work for us with your comments here like your ilk do around the country and in the right wing media.

            Like your ilk that cheered letting the uninsured go untreated at the last RNC convention (Ron Paul’s comment), that cheered executions in Texas (Rick ‘Oops!’ Perry’s comment’, that booed a gay soldier’s video question. Yeah, that ilk. The worst of America.

            You think sane people appreciate what you guys have to say? The last 2 elections proved otherwise and the next one will too.

            The GOP convention next summer will be a real jingoistic hate fest that will turn off women, minorities, the LGBT community, millennials, the working poor and everyone but the 1% and those fools who suck up to them like you 3 do.

            I can’t wait. I hope Clint Eastwood makes another cringe-worthy appearance. Will W and Cheney be there or is the GOP too ashamed to have them? Will Romney be there after what Trump has said about him?

            Heck, will Trump be there or running as a 3rd party candidate because you guys weren’t ‘nice’ to him like he is to everyone else? He represents the same hypocrisy that Claire and Lady Liberty demonstrate so well here on this site.

            You 3 are so short-sighted.

          • All that stuff you post, Wb, is a result of the mess Bush left behind.

            Did President Obama start off with a balanced budget and no debt and no wars and a rising stock market and a surplus and then he willfully destroyed all that?

            Only in your diseased mind is that how it is.

            BTW Baby Boomers have been retiring in record numbers the last 4-5 years as they started turning 65 and you liars on the right keep using the number of Americans that aren’t working to distort that fact.

            Yes, you are dishonest. Nothing you say is to be believed any longer. No links. No sources. Just Wb parroting right wing talking points like a good parrot and the bottom of your cage is piled high with your comments.

  52. Carly Fiorina punks lib crank Chuck Todd! She also dissed Jerry Brown with a classy answer about the drought and how it has been mishandled. Brown had a really dumb answer.

    • Ol’ Carly is playing at being about as far right as she can get…which does not make her in the least bit correct. That’s the beauty of the Trump campaign. It has the most extreme fringe elements of the right wing demanding representation, so all the candidates who want to succeed in the Republican primary are forced to spout nonsense to appeal to them.

      Which means that no matter who ends up with the nomination they will spend the entire campaign for the general election trying to explain that they didn’t really mean the extremist nonsense that they said during the primaries. The mainstream voters will not believe their denials, and the base will once again be infuriated about being “lied to by a RINO” and the Republicans will get creamed…again.

      • They aren’t waiting till the general election to reverse their opinions.

        They’ve all been dancing backwards faster and more often than Ginger Rogers ever did.

        Jed has to spend days clarifying every thing he says.

        The others do it just as often.

        And, they want to run the country like a business….Enron….Arthur Anderson…..Bear Stearns…….Lehman Brothers……..and so on.

        They can’t even run a political organization that some outsider like Donald Trump has taken over from them and fox ‘news’ and is gonna drive it over a cliff unless they are nice to him. He said so and his poll numbers went up.

        Trump has exposed the nuttiness and foolishness of the GOP voter.

        No to the GOP. They are the worse thing going in this country. They’ve shut down the government. Cost around $12 billion while they whine about the debt. They got our credit rating lowered for the first time ever.

        They want to cut taxes some more while building an expensive wall and putting troops in Iraq again and starting a war with Iran. Do you blame Iran for not trusting the United States? They hear what McCain and other right wingers say in public like “Bomb, bomb Iran”. So, they fire back at us with “Death to America.” Both Iran’s leaders and our GOP are dangerous. And, the President has to make it work with those 2 knuckleheaded groups plus Bibi working against him.

        And, we’ve got our own knuckleheads on this site that turn a blind eye to that while complaining and complaining about everything but that.

        • Barrack is pres, credit rating drop is republicans fault.they spent all the money, not barrack, right william.whos typing for you? No serious.your breathing only cuz barrack lets you.when you stop, its them damn republicans.

      • Stocks are falling. The worst day in 8 years. China is failing. China owns the USA. 2015 China and the U.S. are under water. Failed policies by this administration. Absence of a plan to pull out of it. This president has more debt to the Chinese than any other president. China is our largest contributor. For business in the U.S. they are being strangled by regulations agencies. Obama is the biggest regulator in history. Extremely high corporate business taxes. I guess that’s what happens when a community organizer with no experience becomes president.

        • According to Wb, it’s the fault of the party in the majority in Congress. See Wb about it.

          Did you blame Bush for the 2008 crash on his watch or Reagan for the crash in 1987, you hypocrite?

          • Like a child william.you said it.when it goes down, its republicans fault.if it rebounds its barracks.why? Wel, you william are an idiot.

        • Lady Liberty is rejoicing over the stock market correction. She’s been waiting and waiting for this so she can blame the President.

          What a loyal American citizen, hoping for the worst.

          Did she ever acknowledge him when the stock market more than doubled since he took office? Heck no.

          She’s a hypocrite of the highest order.

        • Market-watchers are saying that ‘fear and panic’ are drivng some of the stock market declines and Lady Liberty is right here illustrating that.

          If I drive around the Valley, people will be at the Mall, at COSTCO, not so much the blvd and just going about their business while Lady Liberty is loading her diaper.

        • China took over the number one spot for the worlds economy, on barracks watch.barrack was busy ruining ours, just ask the almost 100 million us citizens who are out of work, on welfare.more than any time in the history of this country.hes historic.spent more money than any other before him, combined, historic. implemented the highest tax increase in the history of the country.historic.

          • Everything you wrote is misleading or dishonest with really bad punctuation.

            No links. No sources. No sense. That’s you, Wb.

            I’d hate to be on a jury with you.

          • I busted you on this nonsense when you said it before. If you are going to make up stories, at least make up new ones.

          • Now william doesnt approve of….wait for it….commercials!!!!.get a life!!!you busted me before timmy, because you say so? Show the numbers oh righteous one.its fact but all you got is, your words, which is nothing

          • Why? When I busted you before it apparently never registered on you, so why should I go through the effort. You don’t.

            You don’t attach any specific measurable to this “number one economy”. I suspect that you have no clue what measurable China DOES have the highest value in, or what that measurable means. I am also sure that you have no clue what measurable is normaly used when an economist “rates” economies, because if you did you would know that China’s GDP is NOWHERE close to ours. You would also know that from the perspective of the citizen what really matters is GDP per capita, where ours is more than FIVE TIMES higher than ours.

            You are just all excited because Faux News and the dittoheads found SOMETHING that they could say we are behind on and started blatting about it without even bothering to examine what it means. Because blatting dittoheads will repeat stuff whether they have any clue what it means or not anyway, won’t you?

          • Our GDP per capita is more than five times higher than THEIRS…meaning China’s. My apologies, but countering the blatting of the woefully uninformed is a tiresome business and mistakes will be made.

          • If past experience is any judge, wb will now crawl off and blat about something else, and a month from now will be back spouting the exact same nonsense as if this exchange never happened. Dittohead behavior.

          • Tim, gdp is tied to debt.so heres one 10.8 trillion was left to barrack.it 18.4 today.barrack spend 4 billion a day.add in remaining days to he leaves.you do the math.reagan and bush senior spent 4 trillion in 12 years.bush junior 6 trillion in 8 years.barrack in 6 and half years 8 trillion

          • Tim, gdp is tied in with debt.for every dollar of our gdp, we spend 2.china doesnt have debt.therfore the economy is number one

          • Tim.reagan and bush senior spent 4 trillon.combined.bush junior spent 6 trillion.barrack has spent over 8 trillion in 6 1/2years.at 4 billion a day, you do the math.24 million people were on welfare when junior left.over 60 million and rising under barrack.you do the math.

          • I told you, Wb, it wasn’t a commercial. It was with a host and either a half hour or hour show on a Sunday on fox ‘news’.

            Did you buy gold when Beck was pushin’ it?

            You are a likely sucker for a reverse mortgage, so you should have been watching it.

            BTW You missed the whole point of my comment which was the scam being perpetrated on one generation to transfer wealth to the banks instead of to its heirs.

            Another right wing way to screw the middle class that started with your hero/god Ronnie Reagan, B-actor and ‘forgetful’ chief executive who was a willing tool of the 1% to destroy the middle class and transfer wealth to themselves.

            Talk about class warfare. Look at who fired the first shots from a ‘nukular’ missile silo. You guys have no memories before January 20, 2009, it seems. And, it shows.

            I’d hate to be on a jury with you or anyone like you.

          • Why? This is another piece of math that I’ve already done for you once before. Because just like the last time you dittoheaded off this nonsense you are not considering inflation or economic growth.

            During his eight year term Reagan almost TRIPLED the national debt. GHW Bush increased the national debt by 92% in just his four year term. GWBush slightly more than doubled the debt in his eight year term. The ultimate results of Obama’s eight year term are certainly not in yet, but unless his pace changes radically he is going to come in right around the same doubling plus a little as GWBush, which is WAAAAAAY better than Reagan of GHW Bush did, though not as good as Clinton who came in short of doubling the debt in his eight years.

            In short, do your own math and quit spouting stuff you apparently don’t have any clue about the significance of.

    • Miss Carly was once called the “worst tech CEO of all time” by Forbes.

      From an article by Alex Bracetti a contributing writer at Complex on Horrible Bosses.

      “Judging by a resume that consisted of 30,000 firings and a 50-percent HP stock decline, Fiorina is a sure shot for any worst CEO list. In 2001, she suggested employees take voluntary pay cuts, and while 86 percent agreed, she still outsourced thousands of jobs overseas and implemented huge layoffs. A 2008 article in Entrepreneur Magazine touched on the employee morale during Fiorina’s reign: “A survey of 8,000 employees revealed widespread unhappiness about poor communication and poorly implemented decisions…Some workers booed the CEO at company meetings.” Even during her run for Senate last year, Sen. Barbara Boxer released a viral ad claiming Fiorina fired thousands and “tripled her salary, bought a million dollar yacht and five corporate jets” as CEO. HP cut her loose and offered a $42 million severance package to never come back. After hearing the news, employees rejoiced and supposedly proclaimed, “The witch is dead.” ”

      And, this is whom Claire quotes and I assume admires.

      Claire routinely and unwittingly sets herself up for such replies by writing comments that ‘just ask for it’.

      Is Carly your favorite to be the nominee, Claire? If not, then who? You’ve got so many other goofballs to pick from. Just close your eyes and throw a dart at list of their names, each one worse then the next.

    • Claire, none of the republican candidates are qualified to bring Hillary her coffee. Hillary, would beat the anchor husband Trump like a drum too. Please nominate Tru as your republican candidate. LOL.

  55. Fox ‘news’ has a show promoting reverse mortgages now instead of gold since the price of gold fell.

    This is another transfer of wealth scheme for the banks. When the homeowner dies, the heirs, typically working or middle class, will have to sell the home to pay off the loarn.

    While estate taxes aren’t paid by most middle class families//heirs, the reverse mortgage will rob them of a sizable inheritance. The banks are appealing to the greed of the parents, I guess.

    Inheritances are only for the wealthy, dontcha see? Donald Trump, Paris Hilton, etc. Working and middle class families shouldn’t even think about inheritances and reverse mortgages will see to that.

    Reverse mortgages will only increase the wealth gap even greater since the upcoming generation won’t do better than their parents and the banks will ‘inherit’ the equity in the homes to pay off the loan further exacerbating the gap.

    Of course, fox ‘news’ will have a show promoting this.

      • It WASN’T a commercial. It was a half hour show.

        Can’t you read?

        I’d hate to be on a jury with you, Wb.

          • @Wb

            It’s a show called ‘Bob Massi is the Preperty Man’.

            “(FNC) will launch a half-hour weekend real estate series entitled, Bob Massi is the Property Man today, July 11th at 12PM/ET, announced Roger Ailes, Chairman and CEO, FOX News.

            Hosted by FNC’s legal analyst and Las Vegas real estate attorney Bob Massi, the series will showcase the various facets of the housing industry and feature several experts who will break down the current property trends and pricing deals. Additionally, Massi will offer practical advice to locally-based businesses and families who have encountered difficult real estate situations following the housing crisis. An encore presentation of the program will be presented every Sunday at 3PM/ET.

            In making the announcement, Ailes said, “Bob Massi will provide our viewers with invaluable insight and expertise on the trends of a constantly shifting real estate market. We are pleased to have him join our weekend lineup.”

            If it’s an infomercial, it’s cleverly disguised as a regular show sandwiched between fox’s other news and commetary shows on the weekends.

            Geez, Wb. I’m so tired of you ignorance.
            Congress voted to invade Iraq. It authroized and Bush decided to invade.
            Speaker Pelosi is responsible for the 2008 crash.
            and so on from you.

            Utter nonsense day after day.

          • @Wb

            It’s a show called ‘Bob Massi is the Preperty Man’.

            “(FNC) will launch a half-hour weekend real estate series entitled, Bob Massi is the Property Man today, July 11th at 12PM/ET, announced Roger Ailes, Chairman and CEO, FOX News.

    • Yes, I did. I am surprised that lightening didn’t strike ol’ rex while he was making it.

      His just desserts are a-comin’ one of these days and hopefully they will be on video too.

      The universe has a way of dealing with the likes of him. His payback will arrive in the form most appropriate, perhaps in court.

  57. Josh Duggar? Have you heard the name lately.

    He admits to being the biggest hypocrite. He’s one of the “19 Kids and Counting’ teevee show and a lobbyist for the Family Research Council, a hate group.

    Besides his earlier scandal, he admits to being addicted to pornography as well. How many times have we seen this kind of hypocrisy by public figures who are telling us what to do and what to believe while they are doing the opposite themselves?

    Here’s the deal. When people use religion to tell YOU how to live instead concentrating on how they live, be very wary of them.

    There are those here on this site who frequently use religion at a weapon to make others wrong and/or hide behind it and, yet, are hypocrites like Duggar is.

    At least he admits it. I’ll give him that. Our hypocrites here just double-down.

    That’s one of the major pitfalls of religion as it lends itself to be misused in that way and we need to be vigilant to guard against those types who use and abuse religion to harm others or deny them equal freedoms in this country.

    This is a ‘secular’ country by design and some want if to be run by their religious beliefs instead. Watch them closely.

  58. WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF LIES
    PEOPLE HAVE BECOME ALL ZOMBIEFIED

    BELIEVE NOTHING YOU READ
    AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE
    WHAT THE EYES SEE AND THE EARS HEAR
    THE MIND BELIEVES

    STOP BEING RECEPTIVE
    TO THE DECEPTIVE OBJECTIVE

    START BEING
    SELECTIVE AND PERCEPTIVE

    AND GET A PERSPECTIVE
    ON THE POSITIVE NOT THE NEGATIVE

    SEEK THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL
    SET YOU FREE

    • The secret deal with Irans nuclear agreement. Iran will be allowed to use its own inspectors to investigate a site it has been accused of using to develop nuclear arms. Iran will provide photos, videos and soil samples of nuclear sites. Iran the largest contributor of terrorism in the world. Iran who still is shouting “death to America”. Wow, now America can feel safe and sleep at night. What a great deal!!
      Posted on the Associated Press

      • What’s going on with our economy? Two days in a row stocks are plunging on Wall Street. Big loses!!

        • TWO whole days in a row!!! Stop the presses! It’s a clear trend!

          Oh.

          Wait.

          No, it actually isn’t.

          • According to our wb, it’s the Democrats in Congress that were responsible for the collapse in 2008 under a republican president after 18 months in the majority.

            By his faulty logic, the republicans in Congress now are responsible for any downturn in the stock market/economy.

            Problem is, you can’t discuss anything with those on the right because they make up their own language/logic/reality and so on. It’s that alternate universe we’ve all heard about.

          • Dow had the biggest one day loss since 2007. Retirement for some not looking good. The world is unstable right now.

          • My retirement is doing just fine, Lady Liberty.

            Although, as I’ve stated that I’m not a financial whiz kid, I had the foresight many years ago to set aside as much as I could instead of buying a big gas guzzling SUV and going to see the latest blockbuster movie every weekend and otherwise spending my money foolishly while not taking care of the essentials.

            I thank my parents for that kind of upbringing as they were smart to put essentials first and the goodies at the bottom of the priority list. It has served me well and them too as they had the resources to live comfortably in their later years even though they weren’t rich.

            You wrote that the world is unstable now. In what alternate universe was the world stable? That’s why I mock you, Lady Liberty. You write foolish nonsense.

            There has been unrest constantly throughout the world and, if you had a brain and not just a brain stem, you would realize that we are inundated with more incoming information than ever before thanks to modern information technology.

            So, you are simply ‘reacting’ to every little thing like it’s the end of the world because your right wing mentality is wired to be fearful and frightened constantly. They’ve studied people like you for that reason.

            When the stock market recovers after a few weeks, what will you have to say then, Lady Liberty, or will you just pretend not to notice? We’ve had the market drop a few hundred points regularly for years and then recover and reach new highs or are you uninformed and forgetful about that too?

            Or, as i suspect, you post those little ‘droppings’ of yours about the market to make the administration look bad while ignoring any good news. It’s just like you to constantly do that.

          • Lady Liberty’s life just doesn’t work and she posts here blaming everything on the ‘libruls’ instead of taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for her life like she expects others to do so.

            It’s the right winger mentality “Do as I say, not as I do.” They just don’t get the hypocrisy in that statement.

            And, they never will. Right, Lady Liberty? You are so stuck in your rigid beliefs that you can’t see anything else. That is the HUUUGE pitfall in ‘beliefs’. They rob you of your ability to see any other possibilities in life that don’t conform to them.

            That’s why it took centuries for the Church to accept that the earth revolved around the sun and it will take Lady Liberty centuries to come to realize that we are living in a new world where marriage equality and voting rights for all are important among other things.

            Her ‘feets’ are nailed to the floor of right winger conservative mentality from the 50s………the 1850s. I guess I should pity her.

          • Lady Liberty keeps trying make make her antiquated, obsolete and failed notions ‘float’ in the 21st century.

            Why?

            It’s the very definition of insanity, doing the same things over and over………..

          • William, you keep complaning about my statement about dems ruining the economy, except you, once again, fail to show the graph of when the country really started to fail.look, instead of spouting your ignorance and lame opinions.you have a very limited news source, msnbc.which explains why they may be out of bussiness soon.

          • William .heres williams logic.the market is down because of republicans controlling congress.in two weeks when it comes back, well thats because of barrack????????

          • The state of our country is in such bad shape you have Democrats jumping ship. Changing parties for voting purposes. Well it’s about time The American people woke up!

          • I think it is hilarious, Lady Lib, that in your own “sky is falling” comment you mention it was the worst one day loss SINCE 2008. Now you are bleating about the state of the nation being “so bad.” Anyone who remembers 2008 can very easily put the current state of the nation into perspective and recognize that, comparatively speaking, times are GREAT; unexpectedly, amazingly, profoundly, beyond any reasonable expectation, freakin’ awesome.

            I understand that you, as a die hard conservative, want to pretend that 2008, being a Republican wrought calamity far beyond the wildest fears of mortal man, never really happened…but your wants don’t make reality.

        • @Lady Liberty

          Just heard on the Sunday news that a stock market ‘correction’ occurs approximately every 18 months which is normal.

          It’s been 4 years since the last one, so we’ve just catching up with the routine.

          Lady Liberty is freaked out because her millions of dollars are at risk. LOL

          She expects the stock market to go up, up and up forever because that’s how smart she is. Doesn’t everyone know that the market only goes up?

          Tell ’em, Lady Liberty. You know it all.

  59. PEOPLE OF AMERICA,

    WE NO LONGER LIVE IN “THE LAND OF THE FREE”
    WE LIVE IN THE “LAND OF THE GREED”AND
    ARE PAYING A HIGH PRICE, FOR A LIFE OF PROSPERITY
    THE COST IS ONLY YOUR MONEY,HEART, MIND, AND SOUL

    POLITICS OF CONFORMITY = ONE WORLD ORDER
    RELIGIOUS DECEPTION = THE VATICAN
    KNOWLEDGE WITHOUT CHARACTER = THE PRIVATE SECT.
    WORK WITHOUT WEALTH = EVERYONE ELSE
    PLEASURE WITHOUT RESTRAINT = LAW ENFORCEMENT

    TOO MUCH TIME HAS BEEN SPENT DOING NOTHING
    ABOUT THE CORRUPTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT

    POLITICS WITHOUT PRINCIPLES = THE GOVERNMENT
    INDUSTRY WITHOUT MORALITY = THE ECONOMY
    POWER WITHOUT CONSCIENCE = THE NATIONS LEADERS
    SCIENCE WITHOUT IDEALISM = MANIPULATION OF MOTHER EARTH

    THROUGH THE CONFUSION OF CONFORMITY
    WE MUST FORM A UNITY
    AND STAND UP FOR WHAT IS OURS

    TAKE BACK THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN

    AND RESTORE FAITH IN HUMANITY
    FOREVER MORE

  60. Literally hundreds of people since 2011, Bill, have been telling you that you are rude, and antagonistic with all of your comments. The words you were using in 2011 you are still using today to antagonize. After so many people and so many years, you still want to hang on to your anger issues and spread your misery. Honestly Bill, I feel sorry for you, especially because you’re no youngster.

    • What kind of God/religion teaches you to write stuff like this, Claire?

      ” Claire
      August 19, 2015 at 8:53 am

      Willy and Timmy have formed their own 4-H club-The hopeless, hysterical, hypochondriacs of history.”

      God is waiting to deal with liars like you and Lady Liberty who besmirch his name in this life. You can’t fool him with articles from the Washington Times or Breitbart. You 2 would be smarter to leave him and religion out of politics but, of course, you 2 aren’t smart and it shows.

      Not only are you a hypocrite but a liar too. You and Lady Liberty are the hysterical ones, the hopeless ones on the wrong side of history on every issue.

      As for hypochondriacs who have imaginary illnesses, you and Lady Liberty have imaginary issues, stuff you pull from either right winger outlets or you nether regions that you won’t back up with facts.

      Were you at one time a poster called ‘FOREWARNED’? You also write like that person who disappeared after stalking me like you and Lady Liberty have done. How many usernames have you gone through so far, Claire, as I’ve only seen a ‘Claire’ recently while you seen to recall my comments from 2011?

      What name were you using back then?

      Who do you think you’re fooling other than yourself?

      Bottom line, Claire, is that I’m smarter than you are and you’ll never get the best of me with your nonsense as I depend on facts while you go with your ‘beliefs’ which are unreal and can’t be proven one way or another. It’s a primitive way to live in the 21st century and you are here to illustrate that.

      • You know that what I have told you is the truth. Several people in the last few weeks have pointed out your antagonistic personality. You’re always telling people you’re smarter than them. That you need to tell people that is really sad. And yes hundreds since 2011. Does being an atheist give you permission to treat everyone badly?

        • You can’t treat everyone badly and not expect them to come back at you Bill. You have given yourself permission to call many people stupid, and other ugly words. Then you blame them for coming back at you.

        • I asked you, “Where are those 1 hit wonders now?”.

          How many usernames have you gone under?

          You’re just a stalker and then whine when I give it back to you.

          You say nasty, antagonistic stuff yourself, you big hypocrite.

          Remember your ‘secular liberalism’ comment? That was antagonsitic or are you ignorant of that?

          Or, what about you and the 4-H comment about me and Tim Scott. More hypocrisy from Claire, aka ‘bird’, ‘FOREWARNED’, ‘moll flanders’ or whatever your new name will be.

        • So, what, Claire.

          This is a conservative region. Look at what a great job conservatives have done with Lancaster under republican rex.

          Of course, they aren’t going to like what I say about conservatives, the ones that helped crash the economy, that pushed for the invasion of Iraq, and other damaging stuff to this country.

          I don’t care if conservatives don’t like what I have to say. I like irritating them and you and watching them lose it like you do all the time. I bring out your hypocrisy for all to see and you do it well.

          Their/your bad ideas speak for themselves and since they can’t defend them, they go after me and other ‘libruls’ who can see that President Obama turned around the economy that you guys crashed.

      • #1 on the New York Times Best Seller 2 weeks in a row. Everyone read it and learn something about our country
        PLUNDER and DECEIT by MARK LEVIN

    • Where are all those ‘100s’ of people now, Claire? Y’know, those 1 hit wonders who ‘hit and run’. Your ‘ilk’.

      I threw some facts at them and they ran away.

      Here’s an example of what I have to deal with on this site.

      When Dick’s Sporting Goods opened in the Antelope Valley Mall, a few local clowns were writing here that it would put the Sports Chalet out of business. Well, it’s still there.

      I pointed out to those clowns that there must be 4 or 5 jewelry stores in and around the Mall, that Home Depot is a couple blocks from Lowe’s, that Staples is just down the street from Office Depot, and several other similar businesses are in and around the Mall.

      It’s called ‘synergy’ but those clowns thought they knew better than I do or the City of Palmdale or big company CEO research teams that decide where to locate businesses. That’s why Chick Fil A is going in next to The Habit Burger Grill and next to McDonald’s. But, the first 2 didn’t bother to locate in Lancaster if they ever will. Conservatives, those business friendly types, run Lancaster…..into the ground.

      Well, Claire, after giving me some static, those clowns disappeared as did FOREWARNED, ‘bird’ and moll flanders, who for all practical purposes are the same person as you are.

      Eventually, the name ‘Claire’ will no longer appear here and some new name will pop up at around the same time saying the same garbage as you and those others.

      And, I will ‘factualize’ them until they can’t take it any longer and disappear. You are fairly resistant to ‘facts’, Claire, so it will take a little longer.

      Meanwhile, I enjoy debunking your poorly researched comments and sometimes beittling them as well. They deserve it.

    • stupid

      adjective stu·pid \ˈstü-pəd, ˈstyü-\
      (from Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary)

      : not intelligent : having or showing a lack of ability to learn and understand things

      : not sensible or logical

      : not able to think normally because you are drunk, tired, etc.

      SYNONYMS
      -Claire, Lady Liberty, wb, etc.

      I know y’all think it’s a compliment but no.

    • Why haven’t you yet denied using other user IDs such as ‘bird’ or ‘moll flanders’, Claire, if that’s the truth?

      Or, are you afraid of God knowing that you are lying? It’s quite a bind, isn’t it?

    • Unfortunately for Claire, Lady Liberty and little wb, the smart people are on the left and you guys are stuck on the right with yer Trumps, Cruzes, Rubios, Jebs, Huckabees, Jindals, etc. AND THE BASE THAT SUPPORTS THEM.
      “We got to stop being the stupid party.” –Bobby Jindal, republican governor of Louisiana.
      Even your own realize it. No doubt about it.

      Stephen Colbert will be back soon and a joy to watch him dismantle the conservative idiocracy. You guys have no comedians on the right and that’s why y’all are so joyless and humorless and hateful.

  61. Your daily hissy-fits since 2011 only reveal how ungrateful you are to have a roof over your head, food to eat, running water at your disposal and a steady income. You wake up every morning ready to spend the day antagonizing everyone, “except Lil Timmy” who of course is your other half. Both of you throwing daily hissy-fits.

    • You’re projecting again, Claire, putting your feelings on others.

      I don’t complain about my taxes, immigrants, minorities, the crime in the Valley, etc.

      I support raising the minimum wage so that others can have a better standard of living.

      I support women’s rights and the voting rights of minorities while you’re with the party that would limit them.

      I do criticize those in power who do harm to Americans like rex, Bush/Cheney and the republicans in Congress. They shut down government, you know.

      You are with the selfish conservatives. You’re nasty and you pretend to believe in God. What God tells you to write the things you do here?

      You are ‘bird’ and ‘moll flanders’ aren’t you? You say the exact same nonsense as they did. No original thought crosses your brain stem.

      You can’t possibly be a happy, well-adjusted person. You’re wretched existence is present in every one of your comments.

    • How can you be so ignorant, Claire?

      I have been grateful that President Obama turned around a disastrous economy that was waiting for him in January 2009.

      I am grateful that Palmdale has had Mayor Leford for over 20 years and I like living here and not that mess of a place that rex runs.

      Obamacare will save millions of lives for people who were previously uninsured or couldn’t get insurance because of pre-existing conditions EVEN THOUGH I DON’T NEED OR HAVE OBAMACARE. My fellow Americans now have access to it while your conservative representives want to repeal it causing unnecessay suffering and death for your fellow Americans, you selfish creep.

      I am grateful that my house has regained its former value after it collapsed during the Bush years.

      You’re the one who has complained non-stope despite all the improvements that have happened in the last 6 years because YOU’RE IGNORANT.

    • Claire and Lady Liberty are in the party dominated by the vulgar Donald Trump yet they complain because I ‘belittle’ them, the poor babies.

      They need to look at their own side of the aisle if they want to complain. But, they are both HUUUUUUGE hypocrites, as their Trump would say.

      • William, the entire republican party is full of God loving hypocrites. They claim to be God loving people but are against healthcare for all.

  62. Willy and Timmy have formed their own 4-H club-The hopeless, hysterical, hypochondriacs of history.

    • Conjoined twins, Claire and Lady Liberty are yapping again. Apparently they share 1 tiny brain while each having a big mouth.

    • It’s become obvious that Claire and Lady Liberty have miserable, wretched lives that don’t seem to work at all.

      So, they have to blame ‘libruls’ and the President for their situation. If their lives don’t work, they are responsible. But, instead they look to blame others.

      The economy has improved greatly in the last 6 years from the collapse left by Bush. Our soldiers aren’t dying weekly in Iraq and Afghanistan as they were before.

      I am pretty happy and comfortable living in Palmdale. I do have a low tolerance for the right wingers who lie and complain to no end as they are fed by the likes of the Washington Times and fox ‘news’.

      The people I know are doing well even though they aren’t rich. They aren’t like Claire, Lady Liberty, wb and others who would complain if they were hanged with a new rope.

      They can’t help themselves as they look for something to whine about while ignoring the good things that have occurred. It’s typical of those on the right.

      • Oh boy Wille, more of your hatred towards women. Come on now your leftist party wouldn’t like that. They always say that about the republicans and now you are doing it. Be careful they might kick you out! By the way I’m not miserable, I love my life. God has blessed me more than ever. Have a peaceful day.

        • I’ve read your comments, Lady Liberty. You are miserable.

          Your faith doesn’t serve you well when you write the things you do.

          Joyless, heartless, unforgiving, etc. What kind of religion teaches you that, Lady Liberty?

          Quit pretending. You’re demeaning God by claiming to be faithful.

          • William, stop putting your miseries about life on me. I’m not miserable, heartless or unforgiving. You are describing yourself. After all you live a Godless life. How sad.

          • Look at your own comments, Lady Liberty.

            They are not from a happy, well person.

            Since the catastrophic economic collapse, things have slowly improved in this country.

            Jobs have been created every month for over 5 years and yet you still whine.

            Even here in Palmdale, desirable businesses keep opening up regularly.

            The minimum wage is being raised by various cities and companies.

            Millions of previously uninsured Americans now have health care coverage. Would you want that taken away by conservatives on the right….where you inhabit?

            Our soldiers aren’t dying like they were every week in Iraq and Afghanistan during the last administration’s misbegotten war, yet you complain and complain.

            Secular liberalism has caused this turnaround and you and Claire and others look for something to whine about. If you can’t find anything, you’ll make it up or parrot made up stuff from right wing outlets.

            It’s you and your conservative buddies that are the problem in this country, not ‘illegal aliens’, gay married couples, single mothers on welfare, poor people, etc.

            Those people didn’t crash the economy or invade a country by mistake looking for non-existent WMDs.

            It’s you and your ilk. That is the TRUTH you always talk about. Face it. Admit it. It’s you.

          • Oh, she’s miserable alright.

            Her comments/replies giver her away every time.

            Things have been slowly improving but not for her, it seems.

          • William and Tim, I guess you might be partially right. I have a wonderful life always have. God has blessed me greatly. I do feel a bit miserable because of all the damage our leftist socialist president Obama has done. But thank goodness it’s almost over. Yeah!!!!

          • Lady Liberty’s claim to not be miserable is just as credible as her other falsehoods and make-believes.

            Read her comments. Is that a happy person?

            Things are much better now than they were when President Obama first took office but miserable Lady Liberty only sees the negative. That’s one miserable person.

            Lady Liberty and her god don’t want Americans to have Obamacare or a raise in the minimum wage or their voting rights maintained in red states or for same-sex couples to have the same marriage equality rights as others and so on. She’s quite selfish with ‘liberties’ as long as they’re her own.

            Some Lady Liberty. Selfish. Miserable.

            Some god. Tells LL that she’s right about everything. That’s just the voices in her head babbling incoherently.

            Who is she foolin’ besides herself.

          • Lady Liberty represents the worst of this country and of human nature – selfishness.

            Even her name is a big lie. She would deny some liberties to others while demanding liberties for herself.

            Which god tells people that?

    • Claire, your comment makes no sense and likely applies to you more than anyone else. It’s call ‘projection’. You one sick ticket.

    • Good article. Since Rex’s puppet Marv became AVTA chairman they are only concerned with buying busses from BYD and to secure votes by giving señora a free ride. Maybe more thought like they did in Hoiston would increase ridership and revenues.

  64. It doesn’t matter what you call yourself William. What you did to me by stealing my screen name, pretending to be me and saying, “I’m sorry William, I’ve been so wrong, please forgive me.” You didn’t like that I told you that you took something out of context, and that bothered you so much that you stalked me for weeks with creepy comments. Then you stole my screen name, and said words I didn’t say. You’re the liar-you’re the dishonest one-you’re a fraud-you’re underhanded. How do you justify your dishonesty?

    • How do we know you are the ‘real’ moll flanders and not Claire using her screen name? This ‘Claire’ creature seems to be personally involved and writes the same stuff as moll flanders.

      Something’s fishy.

      Someone called ‘moll flanders’ wrote her name ‘moll flanders’ every time. Now, after several month’s absence during which time, someone named ‘Claire’ appears writing the same garbage, and then ‘Moll Flanders’ appears with her name using capital letters for the first time doesn’t pass the smell test.

      And, what happened to ‘bird’ who disappeared before ‘moll flanders’ showed up?

      Talk about playing around with screen names. 3 different names all writing the same stuff.

  65. I love it when someone states it so well about the GOP presidential field this time around.

    “I don’t understand how one of these GOP candidates could possibly win. I have never seen or heard more insane proposals that the mere suggestion would disqualify them. Two have said they would bomb Iran on their inauguration day, anothe few will dismantle ACA, another send the military to close down abortion clinics, several want to build a wall, deport 11 million immigrants change the constitution, end gay marriage, and on and on. I feel like we are in the midst of lunatics. They will not be happy until we are at war, lower taxes the ACA is ended, we stop welfare and foodstamps all because their money is being stolen by all the poor.”

    submitted by a Fred Johnson on the Huffington Post. Fred nailed it.

    Of course, Claire, Lady Liberty, wb and others here swallow that stuff like it’s honey while thinking they are the ‘smart’ ones.

    • Willie, did you know that the illegal population in the U.S. is growing at 4 times the rate of legal citizens. How much money does the U.S. Spend on them? The Huffington Post is a leftist liberal piece of garbage. No wonder you wouldn’t know the truth if it was right in front of your face.

      • Lady liberty, we spend more money on corporate welfare than on undocumented human beings. The government shut down, caused by the republicans, caused us millions. Also, where the hell were you when we wasted billions in Iraq? Stop using undocummented human beings as scapegoats. Last, every time you see an f22 flying in the AV, we are wasting thousands in just a few minutes of flying. Stop with your hypocricy. If you want to complain, please complain about the millions that are wasted on the military industrial complex. God bless the democrats.

        • Kim Davis is a country clerk in Kentucky who is refusing to process any marriage licenses because her faith is unaccepting of same-sex marriages which are now legal and constitutional.

          Her case on appeal was denied by the Supreme Court. She’s an elected official who will not perform her legal obligations because her authority is God and she is hiding behind that defense.

          Imagine a Muslim or a Mormon getting a job in a bar and refusing to serve alcohol because of their religious beliefs. That’s how ridiculous the fanatics have become in this country with their own personal ‘firmly held beliefs’ about marriage or birth control.

          Apparently, Kim Davis’s firmly held beliefs aren’t kept between her legs or they’d fall out by now.

          Unbelievable. She is like Claire and Lady Liberty who want this country run according to their beliefs and cry that their religious freedom is denied when they can’t impose their beliefs on others as part of their jobs.

          Now, get this everyone. Kim Davis is on her 4th husband and has 3 divorces under her belt and a strange situation with who is now the father of her twins or some such nonsense.

          From what I’ve heard, Jesus said that divorce and remarriage is considered adultery and nothing about same-sex marriage. If so, she is just being a real cherry picker with her faith as they all are.

          Come and defend her, Claire and Lady Liberty. She’s one of your own kind.

          • Then, there’s that Dugger guy who said he was the biggest hypocrite but it’s a close race with our own hypocrites on this site.

            Right, Claire and Lady Liberty?

      • can’t wait for the kool aid to start being passed around. this is some real weird stuff.

    • What does this mean for all the Jewish people, Muslim people, Hindu people, Sikh people, Catholics (ask Pastor Paul Chappell what LBC thinks of Catholics), pagans, atheists, and others who do not fit Mr. Parris’ mold?

      • One would think rex an uneducated man, wouldn’t one?

        I guess they don’t teach the humanities in law school, just how to get money for oneself.

        And, with rex, it shows.

        As Daffy Duck would say to our rex, “You’re dishhhh-picable”.

        It’s quite something to observe how some people behave in an un-christian-like manner in the name of Christianity. Give me a non-believer or a rationalist any day over those faux kristians. That’s ‘kristians’ with a ‘k’ like ‘krab’ with a ‘k’ indicating it’s imitation.

        That kind of ‘kristianity’ is a tax-exempt fraud/scam or what-have-you.

        • Claire posts another dishonest comment here portrayed as a fact.

          The DNC sued Ohio because the state was limiting early voting by non-military voters but the law was disguised, as the republicans do these things, to make it seem that the lawsuit was designed to restrict early voting by the military. It was designed to make the DNC look bad for filing a lawsuit when in reality, the law hurt non-military voters.

          Republicans are behind VOTER SUPPRESSION in most red states.

          Claire eats up all that dishonesty and plants it here without listing a source or a link and telling only half the story.

          She does that all the time because despite pretending to be a religious person, she is actually a dishonest person faking it and using religion as some kind of shielf. That has to be a huuuuge sin.

      • Nope. No trance. That’s the real rex parris. He gives the name ‘rex’ a bad name.

        There are authentic people of faith and then there are impostors. I go round and round with a couple of them here who are really full of themselves. They know who they are.

  67. Here’s another reason fox ‘news’ can’t be trusted nor anyone who cites them or repeats their lies such as ‘secular liberalism’ is undermining the country, a ripoff from O’Reilly.

    “Fox News spent much of August 13 running with speculation from an anonymous State Department official that aides to Hillary Clinton had “stripped” the classification markings from emails that she received in her private email server, going so far as to state the claim as fact and speculate on who had done the alleged deed. Later that day, the State Department said there was no evidence any stripping of classification markings had occurred. ”

    From Media Matters website.

    If you don’t like it, show some proof otherwise. Remember when fox ‘news’ was spreading the lie about ‘no go’ zones in France and finally was forced to retract it. They do that stuff all the time with their ‘Some say….” disguised as ‘news’.

    • Media Matters is a joke! I would suggest to you that you stop watching Fox news and gleaning information from a biased source like Media Matters. Fox news is conservative and Media Matters goes to the left. You are not going to extract the truth from one source.

      • Are you mixed up, Claire? I think so.

        You tell me to “stop watching Fox news” and also “gleaning information from a biased source like Media Matters.” followed by, now get this, “You are not going to extract the truth from one source.”

        You wrote implying that I used 2 sources and then said something about only using ‘1’ source.

        That’s why I mock you. Your own words undermine your comments.

        This isn’t the first time I’ve used your own words to expose your ignorance. Keep it up as I enjoy doing it.

        BTW. Media Matters is not a news outlet. Got that?

        Their mission is to expose lies, distortions and bias in the conservative media. Media Matters posts video clips and transcripts showing exactly that along with documentation of the facts.

        Media Matters has a rich source of lies and distortions found in fox ‘news’ and never seems to run out of material.

        And, you think that is a joke. What are your news sources, if any? Your comments sound like you just make stuff up out of whole cloth. As for fox ‘news’, didn’t you pull that ‘secular liberalism’ directly from Bill O’Reilly’s show without saying so?

        • Media Matters is a joke! How many times do I have to tell you “I don’t watch T.V.” I don’t Watch Fox news-I don’t like Bill O’Reilly-I am a Sabbath keeper. Sabbath keepers and secularism are like oil and water. Instead of trying to catch me in a lie, or try to continually falsely accuse me (lie),of getting information from Bill O’Reilly, that you that you heed the words of Willy, who made a comment to you that says it all. Anyway, I wouldn’t be calling anyone else a liar, since you’re guilty of lying and stealing. Remember When you stole Moll Flanders screen name and wrote “I’m sorry William, I was so wrong. Please forgive me.” That’s what you’re all about! you’re a coward, liar, and a thief. and you’re creepy too. You steal screen names when you don’t like what they say!

          • You know exactly what I’m talking about. You’re not only a liar and a thief, but you can’t even take responsibility for pretending to be Moll Flanders and writing comments under her screen name. Creepy pervert!

          • I just showed you how ignorant you are in my other comment. You don’t watch tv but somehow you know that Media Matters is a joke for reporting falsehoods on fox ‘news’.

            How do you know that?

          • William, you are the one who is ignorant. You say republicans are behind voter suppression. They are only against voter fraud. Which runs rampant. What about your party in the last election. The Black Panthers out in front of polling places intimidating everyone. Did you forget that or just sweep in under the rug like the rest of your party hiding all of the scandels.

          • Voter fraud only runs rampant in the fevered imaginations of losers. Every time a politician loses they refuse to believe that it was REALLY because the other guy got more votes. The reality is that there have been VERY few documented cases of voter fraud in the US, and those that were documented would actually make no difference in a presidential election.

            The documented cases involve people finding ways to register and vote in a district they do not live in. This involves NOT being able to vote in the district that they actually do live in, so it is a bit of a trade off.

            The Republicans have seized on this false fear of voter fraud to justify voter suppression schemes, no more, no less.

  68. Happy Birthday LEAPS.Happy Birthday LEAPS.You are now 3 years old.You are now 3 years old.You know what?You know what?A 3 year old fighting crime would be more useful than you.A 3 year old fighting crime would be more useful than you.$3,000,000.00 so far for what.$3,000,000.00 so far for what.Wal-mart shoplifters and a man in a field.Wal-mart shoplifters and a man in the field.Let Wal-mart pay for it’s own security.Let Wal-mart pay for it’s own security.LEAPS is a joke.LEAPS is a joke.But the joke is on us.But the joke is on us.We pay $90,000.00 a month for this piece of crap.We pay $90,000.00 a month for this piece of crap.For 10 years.For 10 years.That is $10,800,000.00.That is $10,800,000.00.That could be used to fix our crappy roads.That could be used to fix our crappy roads.Or to hire more Sherriffs.Or to hire more Sherriffs.Which would held reduce crime.Which would help reduce crime.Unlike LEAPS.Unlike LEAPS.Which only makes money for Rex’s friends.Which only makes money for Rex’s friends.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.Yes to Sherriffs.Yes to Sherriffs.No to crappy roads.No to crappy roads.No to LEAPS.No to LEAPS.We need more boots on the ground.We need more boots on the ground.

  69. I just don’t understand what all the grumbling is about.

    Things are much better in the economy now than they were in 2008-9.

    The crime rate has been steadily declining since the 90s despite news of sensational crime stories from time to time.

    Illegal immigration is around a net zero as President Obama has vigorously deported many foreign citizens who were here illegally, yet that is the main issue for the GOP’s front-runner, Donald Trump. Why is that?

    Hasn’t President Obama kept the country safe from a 9/11 type terrorist attack which happened on Bush/Cheney’s watch after they were warned a month before? Remember how the GOP told us every day that Bush was keeping us safe. Why haven’t the republicans acknowledged that President Obama has also kept us safe. There have been attacks such as the Boston bombing and the culprits were caught and tried just as President Clinton caught and tried the blind cleric responsible for planning the attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 and President Obama got bin Laden while Bush failed to and disbanded the agency charged with it and also said he didn’t care about bin Laden any more.

    On balance, I think the Democratic presidents were more effective in response to terrorist attacks. Bush invaded the wrong country. It was HIS decision to do so. The Congress didn’t make him do it for those of you who think (believe) otherwise. Congress authorized force as a last resort after all diplomatic avenues were exhausted. Congress should be faulted for not seeing through the Cheney/Bush lie factory at work.

    Benghazi is just a political issue for the GOP to use. There were many embassy attacks and deaths during the Bush years but not a dozen congressional hearings. Why not?

    California’s debt is no longer a topic for those on the right. Remember when California was in a huge financial abyss when Governor Brown took office?

    Did the people who now bring up the national debt discuss it or care about it PRIOR to President Obama’s election? Or, are they focusing on it because everything else has improved since 2009 and it’s the only thing they can find to complain about.

    Why aren’t young Americans rioting in the streets about the national debt that they will supposedly inherit. Or, are they being used by the older folks on the right as tools to complain about the debt for political reasons?

    Speaking of young people who the GOP pretends to worry about inheriting the debt, why isn’t the GOP concerned about college loan debt or making it easier for college students to vote rather than making it much harder. Steve Knight opposed having polling places on California’s state university campuses because they can’t handle the crowds. Seriously, is he a jerk or what? Nah, he’s just a tool for the GOP and it doing little for his congressional district just as he did little in Sacramento all those years except voting ‘NO’.

    Did not Dick Cheney, as Vice-President, say “Deficits don’t matter.”? Why was it okay when the GOP was the majority in Congress and had the White House?

    If you are personally worse off now than you were in 2008-10 during the depths of the recession, why? There has been job growth every month since the job losses were turned around in 2009-10.

    Look at Lancaster. Despite the improving economy, (Macy’s built a store in the AV Mall in 2010 during the worst of the recession), conservative Lancaster is falling behind as businesses fold or move from his blvd and shopping centers around town are half empty. He declared Lancaster a ‘Christian community’ yet it is so divided along racial and other lines. Is that a model for conservative Christian communities?

    Lancaster, like Gov. Brownback’s Kansas, show what happens when conservatives run a city or a state. Bush showed us what happens when they run the country……into the ground.

    So, that is why the whining and moaning by those on the right is baffling and despite reasonable responses to their complaints and criticisms they continue on with their falsehoods and faith-based notions of politics.

    I do enjoy Donald Trump going after Jeb Bush’s defense of his brother’s Iraq war as fumbling as it is. Trump is really doing damage to those other GOP candidates and will make good video clips for the Democrats’ campaign ads next year.

    Yours truly,
    Liberal Democrat, William

    liber from the Latin-‘free’

    • You keep saying things that show you are ignorant, Claire.

      For example.

      You say you don’t watch the teevee machine.

      Media Matters is a website that monitors and exposes lies and distortions by conservative media such as fox ‘news.

      If you don’t watch teevee i.e. fox ‘news’, how the heck do you know that Media Matters is a joke then for doing what it’s mission statement says it does?

      Your logic is faulty and since you are ignorant of what fox ‘news’ puts out daily and can’t possibly know that Media Matters is accurately exposing the lies of fox, you are both illogical and ignorant.

      Yet, you persist in demonstrating for us all.

      Where is moll flanders by the way? How come you and her have never been seen together? She disappeared and you took her place. Hmmmm.

    • @William, Drinking the leftist liberal cool aid again! Lay off that stuff and maybe you can know the difference between truth and fiction. What a bunch of do do.

      • People such as you are always throwing around the word ‘truth’ which tells me that you are a willing liar.

        Liars don’t saying they’re lying. They say they know the ‘truth’ which is your game plan. It’s the right wing game plan as only they know the ‘truth’ even if it’s based on unproven ‘beliefs’.

        In that case, Santa Claus is ‘real’ because kids belief it. Same with your beliefs.

        I welcome your ridiculous comments as they expose you so well to the sunlight.

      • @Lady Liberty

        “…leftist liberal cool aid…”????

        Geez, LL. Can’t you come up with anything original with that little brain of yours instead of cliches? That’s a right wing ‘Kool aid’ cliche, y’know.

        And, it’s spelled ‘Kool aid’ for your ignorant self.

        You just can’t do anything right except parrot right wing nonsense and misspell it to boot. Goody for you.

        You and Claire constantly and unwittingly undermine yourselves. You don’t need ‘secular liberalism’ to do it for you. Congrats.

        Keep ’em comin’. I love knocking them outta the park.

        • William, wrong yet again.drinking the kool aid refers to the jim jones followers drinking poison.please, just one history book, please

          • What is the matter with you, wb? Can you not read?

            She spelled Kool Aid as ‘cool aid’. I know about the Jim Jones story. What does that have to do with misspelling ‘Kool Aid’? The right wingers use it as a cliche. Why else would ‘Kool Aid’, a soft drink, have to do with anything unless it referred to a mass suicide?

            You are so dense.

            And, what did Speaker Pelosi have to do with the crash that you claimed but can’t back up?

          • William, like a little child throwing a temper tantrum.claire, lady liberty and the multitude of others that cant stand william, not you tim, just ignore william.if you have a baby crying, its just best to ignore, eventully he will stop crying.he knows he backed a loser, but is lashing out at all who will listen.like an old balding man, buying a corvette, to make up for something lacking.

          • @wb

            You forget the crybaby rant you went on recently where you wrote about 100 words and used the ‘b’ word a dozen times and I replied that you had a meltdown.

            What was that all about if not a crybaby rant. Oh, and you told me to stay out of Lancaster like that was going to hurt my feelings.

            You are just like Claire and Lady Liberty. Do y’all sit under the hairdryers together and gossip about me?

          • William, why do you care about lancaster? Just to hear your pathetic whines? You dont live in lancaster! Mind your bussiness.

          • Look wb, get this through yer thick skull. Your mayor has interferred with my city’s politics, it’s plan to build a power plant, now trying to intefere with the High Speed Rail station among other things.

            So, I’ve made it my business to do what I can to cause Lancaster voters to replace him. I foresaw the demise of your fabulous blvd which must be an embarrassment for you personally, hot shot. And, I’m enjoying that it’s causing you some grief if I criticize it and your mayor.

            Tell rex to stay out of our business and things will be fine but you’re not smart enough or ballsy enough to do that are you?

        • William, hows the next loser you are backing doing?trying to stay in this year.i know its tough for you to do.just explain why somebody would totally erase, scrub, their server and hard drive.smash their cell phone, delete over 30, 000 email, tell the world that none were top secret or secret emails, when they were.i wonder why somebody would do that? But then again, she did tell the familys of the 4 dead americans, that it was all about a video.that makes you 3 for 3 losers.

        • William, just about that time for the mr maddow show, please dont miss it.hes going to talk about the treasonous hillary and her cover up, and her lies about benghazi.of wait no HES not.and how come we never see maddow and chris hayes in the same room together?

          • Careful, wb, Lady Liberty will go after you for being a sexist or a misogynist for saying that.

            Oh, wait. She won’t. She’s a big hypocrite and will let you slide.

            You guys can’t help undermining yourselves and each other with your brainlessness.

          • William,since you believe hes smarter tham I and EVERYONE else I know, please provide proof to your totally asinine statement

          • @wb

            Show us you’re not a big wimp.

            Go to a Lancaster city council meeting and tell rex to quit making Lancaster and himself a laughingstock of California cities.

            laughingstock (from Merriam-Webster online dictionary

            : an object of ridicule

            I know I have to spell everything out for you guys.

            Then, come back and tell us how it went.

          • Hey, wb. Did you forget that I was replying to your ridiculous statement when I said that Rachel Maddow was smarter than you and everyone you know? You referred to her as ‘mr maddow’ a pretty lame remark.

            Did you think you thought that up all by yourself? Of course you did. You wouldn’t parrot something you heard elsewhere would you?

            By requiring ‘proof’ of a reply to your silly comment, you demonstated that everyone is smarter than you are.

            Need I say more.

          • I’m so glad you live in Lancaster, wb.

            Enjoy your blvd.

            Enjoy your half empty shopping centers.

            Enjoy your mayor’s silly comments that embarrasses everyone in Lancaster but you.

            Enjoy your lack of nearly everything a city of over 150,000 should have.

            No wonder you don’t like my comments about Lancaster.

            THEY ARE ACCURATE and you are a loser.

          • William, you made an assumption and assertion that maddow is smarter than me and everyone else I know.please back up your claim, or everyone will know that you are a fraud.you said it, now back it up.or do you always talk out of your rear end?

        • William, did you really say that lady liberty and clair might be sitting under hair dryers all day? What a sexist, anti women thing to say.but thats what libs are, when you dont agree with them or cant use them to get their vote, they are just typical hair dryer women, thanks for showing your true colors, william

          • I included you under the hairdryers. Can’t you read, wb?

            You wrote this and we’ll see if Lady Liberty calls you a sexist. She’s a hypocrite y’know and probably won’t say a thing.

            ” Wb
            August 18, 2015 at 6:26 pm

            “mr maddow…”??? How lame, wb. How typical of your little brain to say that.

          • William, prove im not a wimp and go to the lancaster city councel meeting? Huh.what does that have to do with you saying maddow is smarter? Other then lib diversion.you know william, when libs like you are boxed in with no response, you divert to something else.like it was because of a video.or what do you mean I scrubed it with a cloth.great hillary diversions

      • Lady liberty, the only ones drinling yhe cool aid is you and your teabaggers, from FOX news. This is the same news channel that told you that Myth Robme, was going to win the election. By the way, what happened to Dick Morris? Bottom line, Obama has not come after your guns, the government have not place you in a FEMA camp, you have not received an ilant to track you, nor has the government set up death pannels for seniors like you. Please stop watching FOX and friends.

        • Pirruris, where did you learn English? It’s hard to understand your messages. Why is it that you and William are obsessed with Fox News. I know it’s the top rated news program but it isn’t the place I get my facts.

  70. The Republican Party was founded by anti-slavery activists in 1854 and famously led by Abraham Lincoln, who served as President from 1861 to 1865.

      • The real question is….WTF happened to the republican party? They used to be the party that fought against slavery and civil rights.

        • Ronald Reagan made it acceptable to be greedy and selfish.

          So, they took it on with gusto.

          CEO compensation skyrocketed after Reagan cut the top tax rates from 70% to 28%, only making them want more.

          Meanwhile, productivity rose while worker pay remained stagnant since Reagan. Now, why is that?

          I suspect that the GOP actually likes high unemployment which keeps wages down while they pretend to be angry and upset by it. See Lady Liberty’s unemployment figures here.

          The right gets to take advantage of the suppression of wages while blaming President Obama for the high unemployment, according to their statistics. Lady Liberty swallows that stuff whole.

          How ’bout them apples?

          Back in the 1950s, rich people like Bob Hope and Bing Crosby used to brag about being in the 90% tax bracket. Now, people like Mitt Romney don’t want anyone to know what bracket they were in years before they decided to run for president.

          Mitt just ‘adjusted’ things a bit the couple years before running to look better than before.

          He’s the poster boy for greed. Dancing horses and car elevators and now the GOP base is sucking up to gold-plated Trump. What fools they are.

        • Richard Nixon and the southern strategy.

          Nixon recognized that the anti civil rights demographic (the scared whites) was much larger than the black demographic and could tip most of the southern states to the Republicans. So in the 1968 campaign he established actively suppressing positions on civil rights. It worked, but it had long term consequences.

          The black vote has been unified against the GOP ever since. This wasn’t a problem for a long time, because the “scared white” vote more than made up for it. But as more and more whites came to support, or at least accept, civil rights the GOP started losing those voters as well. By 1980 Reagan had to use what became known as “dog whistles”; phrases like “welfare queens” and “urban issues” to let the scared whites know he was on their side without being direct enough to chase off the sympathetic whites.

          He also took a position on immigration that was designed to balance with the dog whistles to hold the scared white vote, while trying to attract the Hispanic vote to the GOP. It worked, sort of, but mostly through the power of Reagan’s personality. To continue holding the scared white vote the GOP has had to move steadily away from anything sensible on immigration, which when coupled with already existing distrust because of the way they did the Blacks makes it really slow going for them with Hispanics.

          Which is why the only demographic the Republicans win is the White vote. And as natural attrition reduces that demographic, as well as more and more whites accept that they do not really have to maintain a “master race” status to get along in the world, the Republican party future dwindles away.

    • The Republican party of 1854 has exactly what to do with the current Republican party Claire? Please expound.

      Or, if you just want to have a history lesson, how about explaining how the southern strategy of the 1960s came about and what the intent of that was?

      • History is interesting, but you’re trying to turn this into something else. What would you do if you couldn’t cause dissention in every comment? It doesn’t matter that you are a Democrat because I know a lot of really nice Democrats. You’re just a mean person that has a negative spin on every comment. You never learned to have an attitude of gratitude.

        • What’s the matter Claire? You want to glory in the history of the Republican party from a century and a half ago, but not explore their more recent and much darker period. And you say I’m trying to “spin”? How do you have the chutzpah?

          • Tim, didn’t you know?

            There was no history from 2001 to 2009 in the United States. It’s missing in the republican mind.

            However, I just heard Donald Trump in New Hampshire reminding them of what a HUUUUUGE mistake Bush made invading Iraq and what an idiot brother Jeb is.

            I think the Donald is giving the republicans a history lesson as I write this.

            Of course, nothing will penetrate Claire’s ‘beliefs’ about the world around her.

            That is the nature of ‘belief’. It doesn’t have to be true or real or anything as long as Claire ‘believes’ it. I wish she’d test it and ‘believe’ she can fly.

            The power of ‘faith’ will be the wind beneath her wings.

            Go ahead, Claire. JUMP! You’re wasting your time with us non-believers. You show us.

            Take Lady Liberty with you on a flight around the Valley, y’know, like LEAPS.

          • Tim and William, why do you always have to belittle other people who don’t agree with your liberal opinions. I guess it is a self confidence kind of thing. It makes you feel so BIG but in reality you are both so little.

          • What belittling?

            Claire wants to talk about the history of the Republican party. I’m fine with that, but for some reason she only wants to talk about the “good” parts. Then you come along and go off the subject completely to spout personal accusations. Hilarious.

          • Lady Liberty writes ridiculous comments than complains about being ‘belittled’.

            Are people supposed to take her ridculous comments ‘seriously’? Wow!

            She tosses out the word ‘socialism’ when it’s doubful she understands the definition. If she were to give a definition, it would be hers, and not the dictionary’s. Those on the right are very loose with the English language.

            And, if they do take her serioulsy and challenge her with documented ‘facts’ it doesn’t make a bit of difference.

          • @William
            Webster dictionary- Socialism: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies
            Synonyms: leftism, welfarism, radicalism, communism, Marxism

          • Nowhere does Webster’s list ‘democrat’ or ‘democratic party’ as a synonym.

            The government doesn’r own major industries such as auto companies, banks, airlines, etc. well, except for the military which the conservatives love. It’s part of the military industial complex that President Eisenhower warned us about.

            If Dick Cheney’s close association with Halliburton which gets many dollars from the government isn’t socialism, nothing else is either.

          • Look up megalomaniac in the dictionary and you should see a picture of Mayor Parris. I hope we survive his reign.

        • Gratitude? Did you say “gratitude’, Claire.

          gratitude-

          -: a feeling of appreciation or thanks

          Aren’t you thankful that President Obama has guided the country from the depths of the 2008 financial meltdown when we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when he took office in January 2009?

          -when General Motors and Chrysler almost went under and car franchise dealerships were closing all around the country. Last year the car sales surpassed those of 2006.

          -when the stock market collapsed and now it’s reached new highs regularly and almost tripled from where it was in 2009.

          -when the housing industry also collapsed and the foreclosures were costing millions of families to either lose their homes or the value of their homes, leaving millions upside down in their mortgages. It has since slowly recovered.

          -when the unemployment was over 10% and it’s now a little over 5%.

          and so on.

          Has it been perfect? Of course not. The republicans have fought the President every single day on every single issue from the Affordable Care Act which is saving many thousands of American lives to the appointment of judges as there is a huge backlog of cases. But, congressional repubicans just don’t care as long as they can obstruct or impede the President and the nation’s progress.

          Heck, Claire, the republicans shut down the government because they didn’t get their way like spoiled, rotten 2 year olds.

          This is just a partial list and if you were an honest person, you would be willing to acknowledge that overall, things are better now than they were in 2009 when President Obama took office from a republican George Bush.

          Otherwise, you are not an honest person. Just a foolish partisan who looks for anything to demean Democrats, ‘libruls’ and anyone who disagrees with your political ‘beliefs’.

          Yes, Claire, the ‘socialists’ brought back the country from disaster like the ‘socialist’ FDR did in the 1930s from another failed republican president, Herbert Hoover.

          Which is it, Claire, honesty or your way?

          History is not your friend, Claire.

    • The new republican party is doing everything it can to suppress voting by minorities.

      And, don’t give me that ‘ you need an ID to buy booze’ nonsense. They are doing other things like limiting early voting, etc.

      • William, the Republican Party isn’t trying to suppress voting. They just want the voters to be legally registered to do so. Talk about suppressing voting what about the Black Panthers allowed to intimidate people outside the polling place. It has been proven in the last few elections some of the votes were illegal but were counted. I have worked at polling places as a supervisor and it isn’t that hard to cheat. A person can come in and say they are anyone with no proof. You can vote on a provisional ballot anywhere, any city any state. Republicans just want a true legal election.

        • This is such a crock.

          “Come in and say they are anyone”…who happens to be a registered voter at that polling place who passed all the requirements to register. In other words, no, they can’t just “say they are anyone.”

          Republicans don’t want a “true legal election” because that will reflect the fact that they are currently burdened with a gigantic unfavorability rating. Instead of suppressing the vote, perhaps they should try dropping some of their widely despised positions, hmmmm?

        • @Lady Liberty.

          I thought I told you not to go there with the voter ID stuff. VOTER SUPPRESSION IN RED STATES IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT, DUMMY.

          Red state governors have shortened early voting days and hours specifically targeted towards likely Democratic voters.

          They’ve reduced the number of voting machines in minority districts.

          What do you think those 8 hour lines in Florida in 2012 were about if not VOTER SUPPRESSION by republican governor Rick Scott. Y’know, the bald alien. You are so pathetically brainwashed by fox ‘news’.

          2 Black Panthers ouside a polling place and fox ‘news’ exaggerated that story for weeks like it was a nationwide epidemic that people like Claire and Lady Liberty believe without thinking.

          Claire posts some right wing article about the DNC suing Ohio regarding limiting early voting by the military but it’s only half the story. It was actually a law that was going to limit early voting by non-military. But, Claire blindly swallows that stuff.

          wb posts that Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats caused the crash of 2008 only 18 months after they took the majority in 2007. The preceding 6 years of Bush and a GOP majority in Congress had nothing to do with the crash. wb refuses to back up his nonsensical claim.

          And on and on. They believe all the right wing nonsense and post it here and won’t back it up. They just keep doing more of it.

          You guys deserve to be belittled and often for all the nonsense you post.

  71. Is there something not right with Mayor Parris? Did you read his quote in today’s paper responding to criticism of his involvement in the voting rights lawsuit? In case you missed it, here is his defense:

    “Our office is proud of our efforts to make the vote of everyone in Palmdale meaningful. People should recognize there’s a problem when only 8% of the voters vote.”

    Either something is wrong with his ability to process facts or he is an out and out liar. Voting turnout in both Lancaster and Palmdale is sadly low. It’s that way across the country. If he thinks that suing to create districts to increase turnout is how you increase turnout then why doesn’t he do the same in Lancaster? Even the Lancaster school district was hit with a lawsuit to go to districts. Yet the Lancaster city elections remain city run in April. The demographics of Lancaster and Palmdale are nearly identical.

    Parris can’t be this dim witted. Perhaps the accusation of him suing Palmdale for political and financial gain is the real reason he got involved. If he truly believed that districts opened up the vote to everyone he would set the example in his own city.

    But he doesn’t. Why?

    Can anyone say hypocrite?

    • Well, there’s rex’s greedy side making money on the lawsuit,

      Then, there’s the possiblity that with districts, he can ‘buy’ a council member in Palmdale that is his person on the council much cheaper than with at-large council voting.

      Just watch and see which candidate rex will be funding.

      Even if it’s only 1 ‘rex’ minion on the Palmdale council with only 1 vote, rex will have an ‘ear’ listening in on all of Palmdale’s business.

      He is so obvious.

  73. @Tim Scott

    Does it seem like you’re playing Whack-a-Mole with these clowns?

    One pops up with a ridiculous comment/reply that’s easliy debunked. (Claire)

    Then, another pops up trying to prove something special and ‘whack’ with a fact and they’re gone for a while. (Wb)

    Then, another pops up and whines that they are being bullied, the poor delicate darlings who throw there stuff all others. (Lady Liberty (from the Latin as is ‘liberal’)

    Then, another and another.

    They never win. How can they win when they base there comments on beliefs untainted by facts and/or evidence? BENGHAZI!!!

    Over 100 high level people in Reagan’s administration were convicted of crimes. Reagan is their GOD. He starred in a movie with a chimp or was it the other way around? Anyway. He’s their guy.

    Poor Claire now has to back up every one of her ‘groundless allegations’ with proof like she demands.

    Yeah, right.

    • Stop blaming the republicans only for the crash. Responsible parties are, home buyers, Wall Street, Mortgage brokers, Alan Greenspan, relaxed standards for loans, rating agencies, mortgage underwriters, investment banks. Both the democratic and republican parties pushed hard to keep derivatives unregulated. In 2001 the White House released the list of attempts by President Bush to reform Fannie and Freddie. But congress didn’t act on his warning. From 2001- 6/6/2006 Bush was pushing to pass legislation for reform. Finally in July 2006 congress heeds Bush’s call and passes reform because it has become clear that Fannie and Freddie are failing. When Obama was a state Senator he was one of the lawyers helping UNQUALIFIED borrowers sue a Chicago-based bank into issuing them risky loans. Anyone with a brain can see it was both parties who were responsible. I’m not a republican I’m a conservative constitutionalist.

  74. How can anybody be a democrat? Other than the poor who are too unmotivated to work and earn their own way. They keep depending on quality individuals who have worked hard…to pay the poors’ way. Trump looks like our only way out of this. The rich and middle class will get richer…the poor will fade away. Can’t wait!!

  75. Fix Federal government that is too big and continually failing its citizens. The IRS abuses are just a microcosm of what is going on in every government agency.

    • The last time the Republicans held the White House they created an entirely new cabinet level department, expanding the government more than any other single action in the past half a century.

      So are you a Democrat now Claire?

      • How dare you ask Claire a question?

        She’s the only one allowed to ask questions here? Not just ask them, but she demands answers.

        Isn’t that correct, Claire? Weren’t you the one who didn’t know the definitions of ‘socialism’ and ‘democrat’ and insisted that I answer while I knew that Webster’s exact definitions wouldn’t satisfy you because you had already made up your mind in addition to having already made up your own definitions. Right? Right.

        That’s the right wing thing-they make up their own definitions of words, cherry-pick the bible and the Constitution and generally are allergic to facts and reality. Reality, you’ll recall, has a liberal bias.

        Were you also the one talking about having an ‘open mind’? Or, was the Lady Liberty. I can’t tell you 2 apart cuz….

        “They’re cousins,
        Identical cousins all the way.
        One pair of matching bookends,
        Different as night and day.”

        No, wait. There’s no difference. How could I be so deceive-ed?

        Now, Claire will pull another factoid out of her magic place.

      • When Obama was sworn in on Jan. 20, 2009 the National Debt was $10.6 trillion now it’s over $18.3 trillion. Obamacare adds 2 trillion in new health care spending. Over the next 10 years it will levy 771 billion in new taxes and fees according to The Congressional Budget office. ABC news states illegal aliens cost us over 100 billion per year. The invasion of Iraq was based on faulty intell for the U.S. and Britian. Biden, Clinton, Kerry, Reid, Schumer, Feinstein are in the 28 democrats who voted in invade Iraq. At least The Bush administration put it to a vote unlike Obama who doesn’t. 150 billion dollars being released to Iran under a deal that gives us nothing and gaurantees Iran will have a nuke in the future. This socialist administration has to many scandals and cover ups. Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, Clintons emails and now Obamas EPA has poisoned a river. That is only a small peak at what is going on behind closed doors in this administration. Obama ran on “change and transparency” what a joke. No transparency and terrible change which is destroying our country.

        • During the eight years of the GWBush administration the national debt more than doubled. During the eight years of the Reagan administration it almost tripled. Under GHWBush it went up 92% in just four years. Your concern about the rising debt should make you a Democrat, since Republican administrations are the worst offenders.

          But of course that would require you to get the facts instead of mindlessly parroting off whatever you hear from your “conservative news sources.” Now, go ahead and cry about how telling you that your claims are just plain wrong is “attacking you.”

          • Obamas national debt is more under him than all other presidents put together. It just keeps going up every second. All of his Obamacare debt hasn’t even kicked in yet. The future of America’s youth is this country going bankrupt. Under Ronald Regan the country was in much better shape than it is now. Under George W his first four years were good but his last term was terrible. My sources aren’t conservative news.

          • Under Obama the debt has accumulated more than all other presidents put together. It just keeps going up everyday. All of the cost of Obamacare hasn’t even kicked in yet. Under Ronald Reagan the country was in much better shape. George W first term was good but his second term was terrible. The democrats spends in different ways than the republicans. I don’t limit myself to one type of news source. You need to come up with a better plan to try to discredit my opinion.

          • Tim, how much is tripled in dollars? Doubled in dollars? Facts are facts, your guy spent more than all, every one of the presidents before him,combined.and we have nothing to show for it.oh wait yes we do,50 million on welfare, over double when he took office, more people out of work than when he took office.98 million people on , disability, welfare combined, more than double than when he took office.the biggest tax increase in the history of this country, obamacare.you talk about double triple? What a historic prez, if we didnt have congress to stop his madness, this country would be history.he will have a legacy of being the worst in history.numbers dont lie.but he does

          • Wb…tripled is tripled. In case you haven’t noticed in a Keynesian economic system “value” as measured in currency units is fluid. So do we measure the debt in 1980 dollars, or 2008 dollars, or 2015 dollars? Any such fixed reference is meaningless.

            What matters is how fast the debt changes, and tripled in eight years is THE RECORD, held by Ronald Reagan. Coming in second is GWBush. Had he been reelected no doubt GHWBush would have been in there somewhere, since his 92% increase in a four year term is certainly right up there with the big boys.

            Obama is SIX years in and hasn’t hit 92% YET. Piker. Clinton couldn’t even come CLOSE. Piker. No, when it comes to running up debt far faster than the economy grows, you need a REPUBLICAN to REALLY get that job done.

            For the record, since I actually understand how monetary policy in a Keynesian economy works I’m not really too concerned about this debt business…just like, in fact, every presidential administration or potential presidential administration. The whole “balanced budget” or “shrink the debt” bit is a ruse, because EVERYONE running for president, every sitting senator, and any congressman who has made it through half a term has been given enough education in how Keynesian economics works to know that that actually would defy basic economic laws…laws that are as inviolable as the law of gravity.

            But they all play to the crowd, to varying degrees. It’s just that the Republicans, knowing that their followers will NEVER go out of their way to get any actual knowledge, are at it just constantly.

            That irks me no end. I’m not sure if I am offended by the way Republican candidates make such disrespectful assumptions about the voting public, or disgusted by the fact that Republican voters are so committed to living down to those assumptions.

        • Claire, any time you think you can catch me out for “not doing my homework” feel free to cite a source…other than the nonsensical conservative tabloids you routinely parrot, of course.

          The history of the national debt is public record. Anyone is free to look it up from any number of sources on the internet. So it would be glaringly stupid to make false claims about it.

          The last cabinet level department of government created was the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone who can’t just remember that that is A GWBush creation is free to look that up as well.

          Based on the issues that you and Lady Liberty raised here you should both be Democrats, but because you are so woefully uninformed you raise them as positive points for Republicans. That is the biggest problem I have with Republican supporters…in order to stay supportive you almost have to stay uninformed, because the claims the party leaders make are disconnected from the positions they take, almost without exception.

          • Tim, I could never be a democrat, party of socialism. There is a huge difference between the parties. The democrats want to build up welfare and the republicans want to build up our military. I believe that everyone should work for a living. I don’t believe in redistribution of wealth. I want capitalism not socialism. I believe in the constitution. The federal government has to much power and the Supreme Court along with Obama have by passed the constitution. The Supreme Court is made up of nine unelected lawyers. I don’t like the fact that the liberals want to take all of our freedoms away. I don’t believe in selling baby parts for profit. Obama is a socialist who is aiding our enemies. Read the Deal with Iran. It’s a joke. It gaurantees they will have nukes in the future. It does nothing good. Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world with American blood on their hands. Obama refuses to say musslim and terriorist in the same sentence. Obama does more for our enemies than he does for us. We don’t even know what is in the side deals that were made. This deal gaurantees that the world is in serious danger.

          • Rattling off a list of things you are uninformed about makes no difference Lady Liberty. I already demonstrated that your first “reason to be a Republican” was backwards. A lot of your additional reasons are just blowhard nonsense. For instance there are a few socialists in the US and they most likely are Democrats, but they have very little input on the current party policies and Obama certainly isn’t one of them.

            The Democratic party has “gone pragmatic,” meaning that they put up centrist candidates that will appeal to the 40% block of voters who are not committed to either party rather than hard liners that will represent every member of the Democratic party to a fault no matter how extreme they are.

          • Sorry Tim and William, but you don’t even know that you don’t know. I am not misinformed, you are, so there you go. You see, I have the right to speak my words. But you and William find it necessary to speak in a condescending, belittling manner. Both of you could not possibly be informed with the truth because your overinflated egos keep you from seeing the truth.

          • Claire, you generally just talk about me or William. I know that you don’t know anything about me, and I see no reason to think that you know anything about William. So to say your comments are “uninformed” isn’t condescending, it’s just a truth that is obvious to anyone who reads.

            When you do say anything about an issue it is said in such a generalized sound bite that anyone who reads can recognize it as parroting, and can more or less identify the source. It may be talk radio, or it may be Faux News, or it may be some conservative “news source” on the internet, but ultimately the source is one of the access points of the conservative echo chamber.

            When someone (generally William or I but sometimes others) questions you about it you have never demonstrated any depth of knowledge. You just wing off into “how dare you doubt” histrionics that do nothing to add credibility to you or your sound bites. That’s no one’s fault but your own.

          • Neither you or William have demonstrated any depth of knowledge. it has been pointed to you both, on many, many occasions by many, many people. You fail to hear what others say about you, and use the criticism for self-examining. As I have said before, your overinflated egos won’t allow growth. Would you change your screen name if someone else started using Tim Scott and commenting? saying words that did not come from you directly, and the words were completely different from what you would say?

          • Tim Scott, your democratic liberal party does have socialist. Bernie Sanders ring a bell. Obama and his good friend Bill Ayers. The Democratic Socialist of America. Most all of the liberal left embrace socialism.

          • Lady Lib, do you even read before the nonsense rises up and floods out you brain? I SAID there are socialists in the US. I also said that most of them would probably be in the Democratic party. But they do not set policy in the Democratic party. Unlike the Republican party, the Democratic party has been establishing policies with the intention of appealing to the MAJORITY.

            The Republican party has its own extremists. The difference is that the Republican party has put theirs in charge. That is why their approval numbers are so low. They don’t promote ANYTHING that anyone outside the Republican party can get behind.

            Useless wars that pour borrowed money into the pockets of cronies. High stakes and high cost manipulations of markets to line those same pockets even more heavily, and that leave those markets destabilized and crashing on the heads of the public. Absolute madness that they drape in ridiculous covers that have now been pulled back to the satisfaction of all but the Republican faithful. Open your eyes and stop parroting nonsense. Look at the REAL policies of the Republicans and the REAL consequences.

          • Claire, if someone else started using my screen name I would challenge their knowledge of economics and demonstrate that they are not me. Just because the posts where I include detailed information scream cleanly over your head don’t try to pretend they don’t exist.

    • A POLITICAL STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF ANTELOPE VALLEY HISPANICS….

      The US Hispanic “ideology” is hard to define in simple terms or catch phrases.
      ideologies are usually connected to some sort of desire for power, whereas Hispanics are not seeking power for themselves but are merely seeking a just change in the current existing power structure.

      it is simpler and more useful to nail down some concrete influences, concerns, and demands Hispanics have.

      if you are more comfortable with ideological catch phrases here are some helpful terms: democratic liberalism, equality, dignity and the basic human right to be free from cruel and discriminatory treatment by law enforcement.

      However, these are just words, they do not make up an “ideology,” but they do represent key factors at work in the Hispanic struggle in US.

      The Hispanic struggle is cultural, economic and political, but at its soul, it involves restoring pride and dignity in our people

      in the past Hispanics were marginalized by the US republican party, It is the republican party that is trying to destroy our history and erase it to deny our poor and middle class their dignity and their way of life and without our history and our culture our movement can not have a future

      of the Hispanic struggle, some might try to call our movement socialist because it seeks to keep the land from being exploited by the rich and powerful allowing the poor and middle class to hold onto our culture and our way of life, a life of family, cattle or farming and the discipline of the horse.

      The Hispanic People live off of their land in a real sense of the word “live,” not the horrible struggle for life under current conditions and we can only continue our existence if we have the land to work with.

      Continual marginalization and eventual nonexistence is the only path offered to us by the by the republicans. but this is our own fault.

      it is our fault because we allow them to keep us out of the democratic process by our own chosen silence. it is our fault because we choose to hide in the shadows living as ghosts. it is our fault because we do not understand our own economic poweress.

      to my brothers and sisters i tell you now. it is the dollar that corporate America understands and even though the democratic party has made great strides in bringing our country back to the people, without the Hispanic People, the democratic party will never reach its goals to end the monopoly of republican and corporate political strength.

      it is because of this existing power structure, for now, corporate america has a direct impact on all our futures but this makes it vulnerable, because this is where we can fight a war…a war for our dollars!

      in the mid 60’s southern blacks were denied the vote by the fascism that embraces all racists. blacks were denied the same vote that we the Hispanic People struggle for today.

      i recall it clearly because for the first time i had seen violence and hatred from those who had sworn to god to uphold the law and those who at first called themselves public servants…local politicians who soul ambition is to establish their own perception of power with which to oppress his fellow man.

      i say that in truth knowing that racism in law enforcement can not exist without the embrace of local politicians and there we can also fight our revolution…by warring against them with our votes! by kicking them out and replacing them with our own Hispanic brothers and sisters

      we are the US Hispanic revolution and we have to identify completely with the The Zapatista movement in Chiapas Mexico, as their revolution, like ours, is a struggle for real democracy the US.

      the republican party in power is not truly democratic. anything that seeks to exclude almost half of the population never is. The US republican party is representative only of the powerful elite, not the middle class the poor and the aged, that make up most of the country’s population. It is our struggle for representation in a government that will truly make it possible for all of our dreams come true, not just those of the rich.

      our struggle is one for equality because it fights for the representation it deserves in government. our revolution equality for everyone regardless of color, sex, ethnicity, or any other ways humans create borders between themselves.
      our struggle is one of dignity because it is to preserve history and culture of the Hispanic People. the revolution is one of dignity because here in the US we will not rely upon arms as the most important weapon at our disposal. A much more powerful weapon rests in the words, the continued resistance, and the refusal to simply disappear from the earth.

      these last words are those of poetry that we must all take to the heart…
      WE WERE BORN OF THE NIGHT
      WE LIVE IN IT
      WE WILL DIE IN IT
      BUT TOMORROW THERE WILL BE LIGHT
      FOR THOSE NOW CRYING THE IN NIGHT
      FOR THOSE WHOM DAY IS DENIED
      TO WHOM DEATH IS A GIFT
      TO WHOM LIFE IS FORBIDDEN
      Subcomandante Marcos – Zapatista

      • g hernandez, the Republican Party is not against Hispanics. They are only against illegal immigration. There are a lot of Hispanics in the Republican Party. There are poor, middle class and wealthy in the Republican Party. Look at Marco Rubio. He came from very poor and worked his way up. The Hispanic people need to come here legally not by sneaking In. Learn English and become involved. You say Hispanics live in the shadows but only the illegals live that way not the ones who came here legally. This is America and if you want equallity do things the legal and right way.

        • Jose, no mames. Speak for yoursef. The racist republican party is against all minorities and they don’t like you or your kids get it through your head. You are exactly the reason why racist republicans keep getting elected. What? You already forgot how you crossed the border? Now you are trying to close the door behind you? No mames.

    • “As it turns out, there is one problem with this Republican chest-thumping. Because when it comes to which political party is best for the American economy, it’s not the GOP. It’s not even close.

      As the historical record shows, from economic growth and job creation to stock market performance and just about every other indicator of the health of American capitalism, the modern U.S. economy has almost always done better under Democratic presidents. Despite GOP mythology to the contrary, America generally gained more jobs and grew faster when taxes were higher (even much higher) and income inequality lower.”

      That was from the DailyKos. If you don’t like that news, let’s see your argument.

      There have been about 2 times the number of recessions in the last 60 years under GOP administration as under Democratic ones.

      The 3 biggest crashes of the economy in the last 100 years, 1929, 1987 and, of course, 2008 have been under republican presidents. They give good recession.

      I wrote that several weeks ago and I guess I’ll have to repeat it over and over until it sinks in to your knuckleheads.

      When it comes to ‘reality’ your opinions don’t matter, Claire, Lady Liberty, Russ, wb, and so on. If you guys want to complain about a decline, it began under your Bush and President Obama has been working hard to fix it despite the opposition from your GOP who would rather the country be damaged than to allow him to win or get credit for an improving economy. Isn’t that accurate?

  77. The Forge is the latest store to close on Rex’s BLVD. At least they were smart enough to open a place at the AV Mall. Last month it was Vintage Styles that bit the dust. Before that it was Brittany’s, Barones, the Chicago Hot dog joint, Eat Well, Rae’s Cupcakes. Is Nothing But Bling still open? I feel bad for these places, sold a bill of goods and promises. The thriving places all sell alcohol. How ironic in a city controlled by LBC.

    • You could solve the problem easily by consolidating all the tattoo parlors in the area and bars like Snooky’s, The Trap, Tupacks, The Back Door, The Britisher, Rubens, etc. on the BLVD. They’ll fill up the vacancies and bring in customers.

    • Now, the question becomes “Who in their right mind would want to open a new business on the blvd?”

      The funny thing is, this was all predictable. I predicted it soon after the blvd was redone as did many others.

      Around that same time, a regular columnist in the Valley Press (not a local guy) wrote a column about how many other renovated downtowns had failed after a few years as businesses closed and the persistent vacancies accelerated the downward spirals. The new ‘old towns’ became ‘ghost towns’.

      Remember all the hoopla when rex was boasting about his ‘ramblas’ and how the blvd was the ‘heart of the Valley’ and a ‘destination’ that people from all over the world and elsewhere would come and visit like they would come from all over California to buy their cars at the Lancaster Auto Mall. It’s really a mental health issue, when you think about it.

      And, what about all the awards the blvd won? How did that happen?

      The location is lousy; too far from SR-14 and surrounded by very old neighbohoods and not much other business on parallel or side streets. The approaches from any direction are a drive through old tired commercial avenues and are generally unattractive. The parking and the traffic patterns are horrible.

      Actually, the blvd is a perfect metaphor for rex parris and what he’s done to Lancaster.

      What other ‘fabulous’ projects does he have up his sleeve for the city….a zoo? Oh, wait, they have one on Fern Street. The critters are on display a couple times a month and you can go sit in the audience and watch them perform.

      But, be careful. Sometimes, the head primate throws his ‘stuff’ at the audience such as snarky, unprofessional remarks. He’s not well behaved. They call him ‘Little Trump’. The ‘Big Trump’ is an orange-haired orangutan while the ‘Little Trump’ is a ‘silver beard’. That’s how you tell them apart.

      That was fun.

      • Ole William you hit that nails rights on the head. Whats the first three things they teach you whens yous selling real estate location location location. That’s is one of the problems on that there BLVD. Funny that you bring up that there Trump feller. Ole Rex has been sayin that Ole Trump is like a clown in a Stephen King novel and sometimes borders on being evil. Juss likes we used to say at the playground it takes ones to know ones.

        • Hey, CAP’N,

          When it comes to rex, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Everything he touches turns to brown.

          With rex, however, it’s 1 big fish in a tiny barrel, so I can’t miss even if I tried.

          I notice that Claire, Lady Liberty, wb, Joey B. and the others on the right who constantly berate the ‘libruls’ and the President are very quiet about their own local boy, rex, the epitome of conservative dogma and policies. The good ol’ boys do very well while the rest of the population of Lancaster suffers. That’s Lancaster’s 1%. Plus, he uses a church to hide behind and courts their votes.

          Can you imagine what rex says about the LBC members behind their backs from the caca he says about others in public? They’d bring the wrath of God down upon him if they only knew.

          Except, they benefit from his throwing city resources their way so it’s a match made in, no not heaven, the other place.

          • You are being deceptive, dishonest, divisive, vengeful, angry, and ugly. I am not a member of LBC, although it doesn’t matter to you. I am not a supporter of Rex Parris, although it doesn’t matter to you. I live in Palmdale and support Mayor Ledford, although it doesn’t matter to you. All that matters to you is to attempt to belittle others by name calling, insults and making sweeping generalizations when it comes to spreading your hate. When you display this hateful behavior you only come off as stupid and rude. Have a peaceful day.

          • Here’s something else for you. Although I am a Christian, it is not my business what your affiliation is, or non affiliation. We all have free moral agency and stand alone, accountable for our own actions. You find fault with just about everyone (unless they agree with you.) You never see fault in yourself and give yourself the right to pass judgment on everyone else(unless they agree with you.) You set yourself up as a god.

          • Claire, you had me at I am not a supporter of Parris. That wannabe has done irreparable damaged to my beloved AV. Too bad the AV Republicans can’t or refuse to see the harm he has caused. He just made it near impossible for a Republican to win a city council election in Palmdale. He has fringe views on energy and his fringe right wing stances on public surveillance are Orwellian. He is the Worst of All Worlda rolled into one bizarre megalomaniac. Sadly, people know this and do nothing.

  78. I stand firm in my faith! I am a black woman-I was a slave-I am a veteran-I am a Jew-I am converted-I am a conservative-I have been homeless. I thank God for His mercies and grace and I pray for unity, because without unity we will fall.

    • Hey, Claire
      When are you and Lady Liberty, our local church ladies, gonna pray for having forgiveness and compassion in your beings and your words?

      From both of your commentaries, it’s sorely lacking.

      Now, it’s fine to not have forgiveness and compassion for others but it’s really hypocritical to pretend to be people of faith and lecture others while not even trying it yourselves.

      You both represent the worst of faith-based politics by using it to make others wrong and yourselves right. Heck, that doesn’t take much does it? It seems to come easliy and naturally for both of you.

      You worship politicians who do that even more so and criticize a President who acts more Christian than any of you given the vile attacks he and his family have received for 6 years and still remaining a gentleman.

      Same with Mayor Ledford who has also been a gentleman when being mocked by the mayor of a so-called ‘Christian community’ and has never responded to rex’s personal attacks in kind but has remained true to his morals throughout. Both men share that quality even if they belong to different political parties that are at fierce odds with each other. Yet, they don’t play that game.

      And, both have been successful as leaders despite the obstacles and challenges put before them by others.

      You two could learn a thing or two from them but I doubt you can even hear this comment. You are already making me wrong for writing it. How do I know that?
      Hey, I’ve been on the receiving end of your faith-based comments and they aren’t very admirable. But, at least I don’t pretend to be holier than thou and hide behind faith while speaking ill of others.

      What you two do has to be one of the biggest sins going. But, it’s common practice among many in this country and many faith leaders don’t correct it. But, I suspect Pope Francis will give Christians an earful next month when he visits this country. I can’t wait. If he does, I’ll be here to remind you of his words.

      • I must clear up your dishonest words! I live in Palmdale and support Mayor Ledford-I don’t support Rex Parris-I don’t belong to LBC-You make sweeping generalizations to sow discord. You might learn how to conduct yourself in a respectful manner instead of being rude to others because they don’t agree with you. Please stop attempting to belittle others because they think differently than you.

        • “…sweeping generalizations…”, Claire?

          Aren’t you the one that did that with ‘secular liberalism’?

          Wasn’t that one of your divisive opening comments recently.

          Give us a break and spare us your hypocrisy.

          As for being rude to others, didn’t you write “I don’t engage crazies” in reply to one of my comments.

          The more you type the more you reveal your hypocrisy, Claire. Thank you for doing that.

          How come you don’t criticize the obvious corruption and poor governance of rex parris like you do the ‘libruls’ and the President? It’s right under your nose here is in AV.

          Are you sure you’re not bird? She used to say the same stuff as you now do.

        • All William can do is be an internet bully. When you dont agree with him its the way of the liberal people in this country these days, they either start calling names or get offended when they do not agree with other peoples views. And now i am sure I will be his next target even though he does not know me or what my viewpoints are and will probably demand that I explain myself which of course I will not do because he will go onto his usually name calling and belittle my views because they do not agree with his views And no I do not watch Fox News or live in Lancaster

          • So, Russ comes out of nowhere and addresses me and my comments but doesn’t want to be replied to. I won’t ask him to explain himself. His comment speaks for itself.

            How typical. How very typical.

            Did I call him names? No. I just pointed out that he is doing a typical right wing tactic such as what Claire, Lady Liberty, and others do here.

            So, I guess I won’t hear any more from him now that he’s said his piece.

            It’s funny how people who don’t watch fox ‘news’ seem to absorb what it says and do it magically through some kind of right wing grapevine or psychic powers.

            How come fox claims to have such high ratings when nobody admits to watching it? Hmmm.

  79. When one is stuck with the legacy of the Cheney/Bush administration and the inept and non-productive republicans in Congress whether in the minority or now the majority, you too would talk like Granny13, Joey B., Lady Liberty, Claire, wb and the rest of the right wingers who come here and those that appear on fox ‘news’.

    What have the republicans accomplished in the Congress since they took office in January?

    They deflect, deny, obstruct, lie, and try to suppress the voting rights of American citizens and they have the company of those locals I mentioned above.

    They’ve lost the popular vote in the last 5 of 6 presidential elections. Wonder why?

    The more they are on the losing side of any issue, the louder they whine and complain. There are holocaust survivors that don’t bit** as much as republicans do about their taxes going to something they don’t like. This despite all the tax cuts. The poor darlings.

    Shut up with your whining. Most of it is based on lies anyway. “Benghazi!”, they shriek. There’s no ‘there’ there.

    There. I lumped you all in together when any one of you could be the ‘spokesperson’ as you all sound the same. I could take any one of your comments and copy and paste it with another one of your user IDs and no one would know the difference. I might try it.

    • William, you are the winer, you bitch about rex and lancaster, yet you live in palmdale.stay on your side of the tracks and shut up.you bitch about things that happened, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 years ago, because you havent got any good to say about your messiah.shut up.you say things like benghazi is a none issue.because you are a hateful lib and dead americans only matter when they die under republican prez.shut up.you say your messiah has got unemployment down to 5.4, but fail to mention that welfare has more than doubled, that disability has more than doubled, under your messiah, shut up.you say your messiah passed obamscare and how great it is, but forgot to mention the more than 35 percent increase in health cost, even tho your messiah lied and said it will go down 2500 dollars, shut up.you bitch about fox news, shut up and stop watching it.its the most watched news network in the world, they wont miss you.

      • Wb had a meltdown tonight. Somebody get a mop.

        He still has answered his big claim that Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats crashed the economy between January 2007 and the summer/fall of 2008, a mere 18 months.

        What did she and they do, wb?

        Your rant was just a distraction and easily seen through.

      • @wb

        I posted this back in May and it’s even truer now.

        William
        May 19, 2015 at 12:39 pm

        “Fox News is hurting the Republican Party, according to a study conducted by a top official in the first Bush administration.

        The study, authored by Bruce Bartlett, who worked in the Treasury Department under George H. W. Bush and was also a domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, found that Fox viewers tended to be less informed about current affairs than people who watch mainstream news — and even people who don’t watch the news at all.”

        The more people that watch fox ‘news’ like you do, the dumber the country gets. Donald Trump is the GOP’s favorite right now. That’s all you need to know about the republican base and wb.

        • William,stop watching fox news,there you go,lets see gw and Reagan.this decade please.i know you cant stand to hear the truth from trump.you are so used to lies from msnbc and Clinton,obama.if Hillary switched to republican,you would hate her.tim,william needs some love.throw him a lib bone,because hes your only friend here.

          • @wb

            You still haven’t told us what Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats did to crash the economy in the 18 months they were in the majority in Congress.

            Why can’t you tell us, smartypants?

            You are just full of it aren’t you?

            You’re the one who had the meltdown and told us that fox had the big ratings.

            You are just bouncing off the walls now.

    • William, please tell us how requireing id to vote is voter suppression? Because the poor dont have or cant get an id?such a liberal lie.tell us, william.give us one, just one example of a person you know, who is not able to vote.go back to watching racheal maddow, HE will make you feel better

      • It becomes a poll tax when you limit the acceptable form of ID to something that has to be paid for and is of no other use. I personally don’t know anyone who can’t vote, because almost everyone I know lives in California where a student ID is sufficient to vote. However, the vote suppressors in Pennsylvania and Texas, for a couple examples, are pushing their unconstitutional poll taxes in the form of requiring state driver’s licenses.

        Many college students, as well as poor people in urban areas who use public transportation, have no need for a driver’s license. It is no coincidence that the people pushing for these poll taxes are Republicans and the demographics who would find their vote suppressed historically split strongly for the Democratic party. It is straight up cheating the process of representative government, and if it weren’t for the fact that it BENEFITS Republicans they would be howling bloody murder over it.

        • Plus, the republicans have also cut back early voting days and hours specifically targeted to disadvantage Democratic voters.

          They’ve cut the number of voting machines in Democratic districts.

          Why then were there 8 hour lines in Florida in 2012 unless it was, wait for it, VOTER SUPPRESSION by a republican governor?

          Why haven’t the republicans concerned themselves with any voter fraud associated with absentee ballots? Why do you think?

          And, then there is the fact that out of hundreds of millions of votes, only a handful of people have been convicted of voter fraud in over a decade.

          ‘Voter fraud’ is a fraud by the republicans. Rep. Steve Knight opposed funding for polling places on California state university campuses as did the rest of the republicans because they can’t handle the crowds. I heard that jerk say that at a town hall meeting when he was an assemplymember.

          You’ll notice they always go to ‘voter ID’ to deflect and distract from the above VOTER SUPPRESSION strategies by the republicans. What a filthy, rotten political party we’ve got there in the GOP.

        • tim,thats garbage.a person going to college has no need for an id?my son gos to college,he has an id.so you know people in other states that cant vote?or is that what you are told.just cuz msnbc says so,doesnt make it true.the most important privledge in americans lives,and you believe they shouldn’t be required to prove who they are?those same people who are too poor to get an id,are the same ones that have no problem showing id to apply for welfare,or winning the lottery.id?no problem.do you want someone voting that may not be who they say they are?or not legal to vote.like the dead people that voted?or that lady who voted six times for Obama?

          • Hey, wb

            How many businesses have closed down this year on your fabulous blvd there in Lancaster?

            Who is responsible for the mess that Lancaster is in that has you whining so loudly?

            I’ve just been pointing out the reality of it all since rex was elected and he’s fulfilled all my predictions. Thank him for me.

            BTW Is Lancaster’s bond rating still lowered? Boy, you shot your mouth off earlier, defending what? That mess you live in.

            Yeah, I’ll stay on my side of the ‘border’ and not spend my money in your little town as many others are doing thanks to your loudmouth mayor.

            Go ahead and give us another one of your rants. It’s good for business in Lancaster to hear you guys talk like that.

          • Your son needs something other than the ID his college issues him? For what? When I went to college I lived on campus. I didn’t have a car. The local bars all accepted my college ID. Everywhere I wrote checks accepted my college ID. When the campus cops said “who are you?” they accepted my student ID. Why should I have spent my (very limited) money on supporting the DMV?

            NO ONE is saying voters shouldn’t have to prove who they are. The Republicans want to say “oh, yeah, that proves who you are, but it isn’t good enough.” Why is that?

      • @wb

        You still haven’t answered what Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats did between January 2007 and the summer/fall of 2008 that caused the economy to crash, have you?

        But, you sure went off on a hysterical rant. You win the rant contest for the year and it’s only half over.

        Voter ID is a dstraction from the the VOTER SUPPRESSION that the republicans have been working on unless you are blind.

  80. Megyn Kelly told her fox producers that she’s been getting threats from Trump supporters.

    Ain’t that poetic justice?

    Kelly, working at fox, helped created the monster Trump and now he’s going after her and so are his followers.

    Are Trump supporters smart or dumb? There is 1 right answer.

  81. Here you go Tim! “Oath Keepers”, is just for you. They’re a militia that wants to make sure we don’t become a fascist country. They also consider Obama a dictator, and much, much more. This is perfect for you. Now you can actually be a doer.

  82. There are people commenting here that make it perfectly understandable as to why the GOP has gone mad with loose cannon Trump in the lead.

    It’s not Trump or any of the other nuts like Palin, Cruz, etc. that are the problem. It’s that there are millions of crazy people out there as a willing audience for all that ugliness.

    Facts don’t matter to them, just their beliefs. And, their beliefs can be about anything, not necessarily religion. See birthers. They are a primitive people in the 21st century.

    They are driven by fear and hate and media outlets such as fox ‘news’ play them like a fiddle.

    They don’t do their own thinking. Claire sounds just like moll flanders who sounds just like bird. They are interchangeable. What happened to the last two anyway?

    They will never be happy. They have no humor at all. They ignore any improvements made by the current administration after the mess he found on his desk the first day in January 2009.

    They say the country is in decline. Were they alive around this time in 2008 when things were really in decline? They have no memories and don’t like to be reminded of history even though they live in the past. How ironic.

    • just get as much pleasure out of life as you can…. Don’t waste time with THIS BS!! Just enjoy life!!! Don’t waste it with mental problems… Just go have fun.. leave your beliefs behind..

      • This IS fun, ya.

        So, why are YOU here being the town scold then? You don’t sound like a fun person at all.

        This is fun teasing the right wing nuts; Claire, Lady Liberty, Joey, wb and their ilk. They are way beyond a reasoned debate. I gave up on that with them in 2009 when the GOP was determined to bring down the Presdient even if it hurt the country such as shutting down the government and threatening to do it over and over again. They don’t deserve our respect.

        They come back with the lamest replies and think they won the lottery with their nonsense.

        It’s like debating children, little children.

        I love using their own words against them like with Claire and her ‘secular liberalism’ nonsense that she took from Bill O’Reilly, a lying sexual harasser megalomaniac.

        Then, there’s right wing bible thumper, Lady Liberty, who doesn’t know that ‘liberal’ and ‘liberty’ have the same Latin root. Yet, she and her ilk use the word ‘liberal’ as a derogatory remark. Too funny stupidity is.

        We’re not talking geniuses here. I feel guilty taking advantage of their ignorance but they invite it. And, then they complain when they are called out on their nonsense and play the victim like Claire does.

    • People of all parties like Thrump because he tells it like it is. He isn’t a career politician. People are tied of the status quo. He doesn’t care about being politically correct, like Obama who refuses to use the term “terrorist” for ISIS. He doesn’t want to upset the Musslim community. Thrump has support from republicans, democrats and independents. Thrump is strong and tough unlike Obama who is weak and soft. He isn’t my choice but I understand why he appeals to people.

      • Trump’s tongue is loose at both ends. He says whatever thought floats through his brain like a 2 year old or a drunk.

        And, you think that’s great.

        Says a lot about you and Trump’s fans.

        Any idiot on a bar stool in the middle of the day can talk stupid like Trump. We see comments like his here all the time.

      • No I didn’t misspell Trump. I put Thrump because that’s what he is doing. Definition, a thumpling, rumbling sound usually repetitive. It seems to be working!!

        • But, ya didn’t write ‘Thump’. You wrote ‘Thrump’ and gave a definition for ‘thump’.

          Confusion is your strong suit apparently. No wonder ‘Thrump’ is your hero.

          We al mak typos btu yuo toke it ot a new leevel.

          BTW you went on to write ‘thumpling’. Is that a ‘dumpling’ with an orange hairpiece?

          Anyway, we here on the ‘librul’ side love the internecine fighting within the GOP/fox ‘news’ bubble. It exposes so much for all of the country to see. Trump supporters are trashing Megyn Kelly on her Facebook page. Lots of them. What a mess of a political party. Rick Perry stopped paying his staff. And, the rest are trying to figure out what to do with Trump who is leading in the polls. They are afraid of him yet will be tough with Putin. Yeah. Right.

          It’s like having a baby camera monitor in an insane asylum. It also reveals the nutty fans for that as you’ve shown us.

          • Then, what the heck is ‘thumpling’?

            “Definition, a thumpling, rumbling sound usually repetitive. It seems to be working!!”

            Keep digging while you’re behind, Joeykins.

            I think a better word to describe what is going on in the GOP race is “Dump’. A big one.

            I’m sure The Donald thinks you’re swell, Joeykins.

        • I’d love to hear what Donald Trump would say about Joey B.

          According to a person who was in charge of faith-based outreach during the Bush administration, behind closed doors those in the administration mocked the right wing evangelicals behind their backs while courting their money and votes.

          Doesn’t anyone think Trump gives a hoot about those that grovel at his feet and swallow all his bull? Only those fools do.

    • The Intelligence Inspector General and the FBI just announced they have uncovered four emails that are the highest level of government classification labeled “Top Secret” from Hillary Clinton personal email server. But she said she didn’t use her personal email account for classified government emails. Wrong, another LIE out of her mouth! Oh yes it was a video that sparked the DEATHS in Benghazi. How many lies will come out of her mouth? She is not trust worthy to be President.

        • Tim, I didn’t hear it on the radio. It was in The Washington Times. Everyday I read several different news sources. Both right and left leaning. I don’t have tunnel vision for only one source of news. I like to hear all sides of politics.

          • Lady Liberty’s source is the Washington Times and isn’t afraid to admit it. It’s a right wing rag.

            Isn’t it owned by the Moonies? I guess that makes LL a moonie too. She’ll believe anything that fits her already fixed belief system, whether or not it’s factual. She WANTS to believe that Hillary did something illegal with her emails and it won’t matter if no evidence of illegality is found. Lady Liberty’s beliefs trump all.

            She denies watching fox ‘news’ but everything she writes is somehow almost word-for-word out of the fox studio in New York City. NEW YORK CITY!!!!

            fox ‘news’ is just like salsa from NEW YORK CITY.

            I’m embarrassed that the Antelope Valley has people like Lady Liberty and Claire living here. They give it a bad name. Just like rex does. Most cities have criminals but the AV is unlucky enough to have those 3 living here. At least the criminals can be locked up while those 3 are ‘free range’ problems spreading nonsense far and wide……..and deep.

            As long as I’m betting, I’ll bet that if the FBI comes up empty with the Hillary emailgate thingy, Lady Liberty won’t accept it, will ignore/dismiss it and will latch onto some other right wing fantasy scandal. I know how she thinks. She thinks exactly like they all do on the right, like clones of each other. Or, is it ‘clowns’? And, proud of it.

        • If Hillary was busy deleting emails, how come they keep finding emails that she didn’t delete?

          If she was trying to hide something, she would have deleted the ones they now say were ‘Top Secret’ which she says weren’t labeled that way at the time she received them.

          Of course, even if after all the investigations find absolutely nothing done improperly, if won’t matter to the right wingers. All that counts are their allegations. They are the ‘faith-based conspiracy party’ after all.

          Mark my words. If the investigations come up empty, Lady Liberty will still maintain that there was ‘something’ wrong. That’s the way she and the right rolls. Facts don’t matter.

          Lack of evidence IS the evidence in their heads.

          • William, let’s be fair and wait until they are completely finished with Hillary’s investigation. They are just starting. They have already found more violations than they did with General Patraeus and they ruined him. Do you think you have it in you to be fair for once?

          • Lady Liberty is talking about fairness.

            Let me see now.

            She has already made up her mind that Hillary is guilty of this and that, right? Of course, I am.

            The GOP majority led House Intelligence Committee found no wrong doing, no cover and no stand down orders given on the Benghazi/GOP/fox ‘news’ so-called scandal and I’m sure that Lady Liberty does not accept that final report from the committee.

            LL is such a liar.

            There have been NO CONVICTIONS of any in the Obama administration but I bet Lady Liberty ‘thinks’ there have been dozens in her imagination.

            I bet you think they found ‘wrong doing’, a ‘cover up’ and a ‘stand down order given’ in Benghazi, Libya, Lady Liberty. If not, then say so.

            People like you really disgust me, LL, and you speak of fairness. Give us a break.

  83. Trump will win the Republican Nomination, however he has pissed off the women and Mexicans in this country and I am quite sure by election time, he will do the same to another group, which will make Hillary a landslide in, because there vote is the same as anyone else.

    • And there are more than enough of them in the GOP to keep him from winning the nomination. If he stays the course he will arrive at the convention with between a quarter and a third of the delegates. Nowhere near enough to win the nomination, but as long as at least two serious contenders (likely Bush and Walker) also stay the course there won’t be a clear winner and Trump will be able to choose between them and play kingmaker. He will sell to the highest bidder.

  84. How come when i call the Palmdale City Hall i never get messages returned? Im calling about safety issues and they seemed to just get ignored…. NO SURPRISE

  85. Give credit where credit is due William. Cherry picking Bible verses and taking credit is called Plagiarism. Matthew 8:12-Matthew 13:42-Matthew 22:13- Luke 13:28.

    • What are you saying here Claire? That you are cherry picking some bible verses, but don’t want to plagiarize so you are just giving us the numbers?

    • New survey out- if Obama were able to run for a third term his chances of winning, vote for Obama, 26% said yes, 68% said someone else 6% undecided half of the polled are registered democrats. Not looking good for Hillary!!

      • If you are going to cite a survey, post a link. I could take a “survey” among the inmates of an asylum and come back with “survey says there are alien pod people among us” but it wouldn’t mean that there are.

      • Hillary would be a someone else in this case.
        The question was only about Obama.
        Logic failure.

        • CaptianObvious, Hillary is the same as Obama on most of her policies. Both of them are extremely non transparent. Lies, deceit, cover ups, Incompetency. Another four years of the same. Logic applied.

          • If you are saying that neither Obama nor Clinton supports the grossly failed policies of the Republican party, you are right, neither of them does. But given the results of those policies why would anyone want them to?

          • Nbc-Wall Street Journal poll 30% of registered voters support taking a different approach similar to Obama in next election. Monmouth University has a poll on Obama not elected to serve a third term. Obama has had more than seven years and has done nothing but hurt our country. You liberals drink his cool aid and put blinders and ear plugs on. The country is finally waking up to what it is like to live under a socialist president.

          • The country hasn’t forgotten the absolute destruction wrought by following Republican policies. Those who have forgotten will be reminded right quick next year. Until the GOP stops alternately embracing their failed policies and denying the demonstrated effects of those failures they aren’t going to win, no matter who they run.

          • Tim Scott the democrats controlled the Senate, nd house during the Bush years and into Obama’s term, which they controlled both houses, soo what party has contributed to the decline of this country with there policies…..!

          • It always cracks me up when Republicans use the “it wasn’t our fault, the Democrats controlled the congress!” excuse, especially when the exact same republicans rant about Obama “destroying the country” despite the Republican control of congress.

            The fact is that the only two really productive years the US economy has seen since Clinton left office were the first two years of The Obama administration…where a Democratic party congress and a Democrat in the White House made it happen.

            On the other hand, the seeds of destruction that were sewn during the first two years of the GWBush administration, when he had a Republican congress to work with, are still bearing poisonous fruit.

          • Mr. fed up.

            You need to be schooled.
            -the republicans held majorities in Congress for the first 6 years of the Bush administration setting up the 2 wars in the ME and the collapse in 2008.

            -then when the Democrats took over in 2009, they had a filibuster proof Senate for only a brief window of time AND NOT THE 2 YEARS THE REPUBLICANS KEEP LYING ABOUT.
            -Al Franken wasn’t sworn in till June, 2009
            -Sen. Byrd was hospitalized for a time in 2009
            -Ted Kennedy was ill and died in August 2009
            -Scott Brown (R) took Kennedy’s seat in January 2010 and there went the filibuster proof majority.

            There were only a few weeks when the Democratic Senate could pass anything.

            You apparently don’t recall the record number of filibusters by the republicans in the Senate either.

            What is the matter with you guys that you forget so easily when this stuff is accessible on the ‘internets’ and debunks all your nonsense?

            And, I’m just recalling that from memory. There are more details availabe but it would be a waste of time on you, claire, lady liberty and the rest as you are impervious to facts.

            Have you forgotten that Mitch McConnell and other republicans met on the day of President Obama’s inauguration to make sure he was a 1 term president and were going to obstruct everything he attempted even though they were in the minority? And, even if it hurt the country which includes you.

            Well, I’m here to remind you. Now, go study and learn something.

          • Tim Scott, you attack everyone cause you can’t admit guilt by democrats or sce 8 people and the rise of crime in the valley, I think your behind some of these problems, lol

          • If you consider it an “attack” when I point out that what you said is inaccurate (“the democrats controlled the Senate, nd house during the Bush years,” which William, I, and the internet can verify as your mistake) then you might consider defending yourself by fact checking what you post.

    • william,when you lie,does it come right out,or do you have to work at it.pelosi and the gang of thieves took over in 2006.only then did the country start to go down.in fact,if you do your history,dems were in charge of congress,almost all of the bad times of this country.please show us a chart of who had the majority of congress,when the country collapsed,as you put it.and please stop making things up.

      • In 2006 the disaster was looming, and everyone knew it. That’s WHY the Democrats took over the congress. Six years of unfettered Republican policies had destroyed the economy, which during the Clinton years had suffered only from the growth being too rapid.

        This “only then did the country start to go downhill” is yet more ridiculous blaming. If the Democrat controlled congress destroyed the country in two years, how come the Republican controlled congress hasn’t made it a paradise in the past five?

        Republican supporters, who generally have not the first clue what policies are in play or how they affect anything, just grab any convenient Democrat to hang the blame on. “Well, when things went good it was the Republican president, and when they went bad it was the Democrats in congress…then things went bad because of the Democrat president that the Republican congress couldn’t do anything about.” The contradictions in the arguments you parrot off don’t even register with you. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so scary.

        • The root of the collapse was in place long before Bush became President. He had nothing to do with CRA, DIDMCA, Garn-St. Germain Act or the GLB Act. Nor did he have anything to do with the CFM Act of 2000.

          You say Republican policies destroyed the economy, but four of those above were brought forth by Democrats and one by Republicans. All played a part in the collapse. Furthermore the Bush administrationsaw what was going on and called for action to head it off but the committee charged with that did nothing about it. That committee was comprised of both Democrats and Republicans. Neither side did anything to head it off.

          • Well, I’m glad you cleared that up. Did you notify the national news media of your ‘find’?

          • Jason, finally someone who knows the truth. Both sides were at fault. The liberals who write in constantly blame only the republicans and never put any fault on the democrats. They refuse to see that both parties are at fault for past and present problems. It just shows how closed minded they really are.

          • “He had nothing to do with CRA, DIDMCA, Garn-St. Germain Act or the GLB Act. Nor did he have anything to do with the CFM Act of 2000.”

            I’m pretty sure Claire and Lady Liberty don’t know what the heck that all means but signed onto it blindly anyway.

            The ‘truth’ eh?

      • What exactly did Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats in Congress do starting in 2006, actually January 2007, that led to the collapse in 2008 around this time of year?

        Remember, the Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate for only a few weeks in 2009 as I’ve explained to you before. The republicans filibustered nearly everything.

        Come on. You said I lied. Put up or shut up.

        What did the Democrats do between January 2007 and the fall of 2008 when Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers crashed?

        Your turn.

      • @wb

        Well, what did Speaker Pelosi do? I’m referring to my reply to you below that I’m still waiting for an answer to. You made a ‘HUUUUGE’ claim as Donald Trump would say.

        If you don’t respond, can we just dismiss your comment as ‘no ‘there’ there’? Just right wing ‘stuff’.

        • William, how bout we dismiss all of your comments as left wing liberal socialist stuff!!

          • Still no response from ‘wb’ to back up his claim. I guess we can dismiss his comment unless Lady Liberty can provide some evidence of what wb was trying to claim.

            I doubt it, though. It will require checking some ‘facts’ and she is terribly allergic to ‘facts’.

            ‘Beliefs’. Yes. ‘Facts’ No.

        • William.I thought you were more intelligent then you really are.a reasonable educated person can not present any facts to a lib.when Republicans are in charge of congress,it’s their fault.when dems are in charge of congress,well I guess it’s Republicans fault.you are like a child.you have one person on here,that sometimes agrees with you.time to look in the mirror.but hey being a lib makes you automatically right all the time.

          • Wb.
            You still haven’t said what Speaker Pelosi and the Democrats did starting in 2007 that crashed the economy 18 months later, did ya?

            Why is that? You just wrote a silly comment instead.

            The republicans were the majority in Congress from 2001 to 2007 and Bush was president from 2001 to 2009. They get credit for that war of errors in Iraq whether the Democrats voted for it or not.

            What are you talking about? Did the Democrats obstruct Bush while in the minority from 2001 to 2007 as did the GOP with President Obama both in the minority and in the majority.

            Who do you think you’re fooling WB, besides yourself?

            I never did think you were intelligent and you continue to prove me correct.

          • I charge plagiarism. This is the exact argument I used about Republican supporters about six hours ago.

            The difference is that I was pointing it out AFTER already pointing out repeated examples where the Republican supporters were using “points” to support their Republicans (smaller government, less national debt) that clearly require them to remain uninformed of facts, since if they really cared about those points and looked at the facts they would be Democrats (since Republican administrations, historically, have expanded government more AND increased the debt by much larger factors).

            Now here you are trying to use the same argument without establishing any sort of background. Foul, at the very least. It would have been more foul had you had any way to establish a background, but there is actually no way to do that from the uninformed position you have to stay in in order to continue supporting the Republicans.

          • Wb, don’t bother responding to the leftist liberal twins, William and Tim. They just bend the truth to suit their views on politics. They blame EVERYTHING on the republicans. They are completely closed minded. They refuse to see that in our history both parties have done harm and also good. That is the Democratic Party, if you don’t agree with us you are wrong, no compromise. Attack, attack, attack that’s what they do.

      • Wb

        You wrote this and I asked you to tell us what Speaker Pelosi did to bring down the country in such a short time as you claim.

        “william,when you lie,does it come right out,or do you have to work at it.pelosi and the gang of thieves took over in 2006.only then did the country start to go down”

        Well, you haven’t answered after calling me a liar. What did she and the Democrats do between taking control of the House in January 2007 (not 2006 as you wrote) and the beginning of the crash in the summer/fall of 2008, ~18 months later.

        Come on. Tell us. I’m going to keep reminding you until you do. What did she and they do in those 18 months that caused a crash after the GOP held the majority in Congress and the presidency from 2001 to 2007.

        I’d love to hear it. And, I’d like you to take back that you said I lied as well or don’t come back here.

        • @william
          By the way William, Merriam-Webster defination
          Liberty- the state or condition of people who are able to act and speak freely.
          A political right

          Liberalism- believing that government should be active in supporting social and political change: relating to or supporting political liberalism
          Not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted

          That’s why I’m Lady Liberty NOT Lady Liberalism!

  86. This section seems to have become the voice of the mentally ill.. Race, religion, politics.. left wing… right wing… whatever… just whatever issue is running around in their head when they did too many drugs or got too old… And they don’t see their insanity… they are too far gone by then.. rambling on about some issue.. when they SHOULD understand that your voice is pointless and u will be dead one day and nobody will care about your issue..

    So just enjoy life… and try and not to let mental illness control you. You can spend your life rambling on about jews, politics, religion or whatever your mental ramblings happen to focus on… OR… enjoy life… go to the beach… eat in a nice restaurant.. have fun with family and friends… This might be the only life we get to have… don’t waste it.

    • If you waste your time a talking
      To the people who don’t listen
      To the things that you are saying
      Who do you thinks gonna hear?
      And if you should die explaining how
      The things that they complain about
      Are things they could be changing
      Who do you thinks gonna care?

  87. LAND OF LIES

    WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF LIES
    PEOPLE HAVE BECOME ALL ZOMBIEFIED

    BELIEVE NOTHING YOU READ
    AND ONLY HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE
    WHAT THE EYES SEE AND THE EARS HEAR
    THE MIND BELIEVES

    STOP BEING RECEPTIVE
    TO THE DECEPTIVE OBJECTIVE

    START BEING
    SELECTIVE AND PERCEPTIVE

    AND GET A PERSPECTIVE
    ON THE POSITIVE NOT THE NEGATIVE

    SEEK THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL
    SET YOU FREE

    • @justtweekit, I agree wholeheartedly. This is not the USA I grew up in. This country needs to wake up. Everyone needs to read ” Plunder and Deceit” by Mark Levin.

      • A book written by the host of a shock-con talk radio show? Why bother? Is there anyone who can’t guess what he has to say?

        Granny, why don’t you try reading something that might inform you, instead of just continuously engaging with your own flavor of crazy?

  88. PEOPLE OF AMERICA,

    WE NO LONGER LIVE IN “THE LAND OF THE FREE”
    WE LIVE IN THE “LAND OF THE GREED”AND
    ARE PAYING A HIGH PRICE, FOR A LIFE OF PROSPERITY
    THE COST IS ONLY YOUR MONEY,HEART, MIND, AND SOUL

    POLITICS OF CONFORMITY = ONE WORLD ORDER
    RELIGIOUS DECEPTION = THE VATICAN
    KNOWLEDGE WITHOUT CHARACTER = THE PRIVATE SECT.
    WORK WITHOUT WEALTH = EVERYONE ELSE
    PLEASURE WITHOUT RESTRAINT = LAW ENFORCEMENT

    TOO MUCH TIME HAS BEEN SPENT DOING NOTHING
    ABOUT THE CORRUPTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT

    POLITICS WITHOUT PRINCIPLES = THE GOVERNMENT
    INDUSTRY WITHOUT MORALITY = THE ECONOMY
    POWER WITHOUT CONSCIENCE = THE NATIONS LEADERS
    SCIENCE WITHOUT IDEALISM = MANIPULATION OF MOTHER EARTH

    THROUGH THE CONFUSION OF CONFORMITY
    WE MUST FORM A UNITY
    AND STAND UP FOR WHAT IS OURS

    TAKE BACK THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN

    AND RESTORE FAITH IN HUMANITY
    FOREVER MORE

  89. I love watching the right wing nutjobs fight amongst themselves.

    Trump versus Megyn. Trump supporters versus fox ‘news’. fox ‘news’ versus reality.

    It is better than wrestling for the drama and the pretense.

    Then, there are those who comment here who eat that stuff up like it’s Fancy Feast. Y’know, the good stuff.

    Cuz they ‘believe’. They ‘believe’ all that nasty talk about everyone will win them the White House. God will provide them with the answer in November 2016 like He did in 2008 and 2012. That musta really messed up their heads when He did that. TWICE!!!

    God gave them President Obama to test their faith and they failed big time. It brought out the worst in them.

  90. Secularism, the belief system in itself, by doing away with God in turn sets itself up as God. Secularism is destroying America.

    • @Claire

      That is how our brilliant Founding Fathers designed this new country. It’s been ‘secular’ from the beginning: that is a nation of ‘laws’ not religious dogma.

      Where did you get your education? Texas?

      The more you comment, the more you reveal your ignorance about our country.

      Keep it up. You make my work so much easier.

      For a so-called ‘person of faith’, you sure reveal yourself to be an unrelenting intolerant and unforgiving person. Is that what they taught you in Sunday school?

      I don’t think so. You just made it up to suit yourself while hiding behind whatever faith you use to justify your beliefs, such as they are. That is the danger of religion: when people use and abuse it like you do.

      Your faith leaders should disabuse you of that but they do the same things in this country. Most of them. Those families of the victims of the church massacre who forgave the murderer were an exception but they are so unlike you. And, so rare. I can tell that from over here on the ‘internets’. You can’t forgive the slightest thing, I’ll bet.

      Given that, ease up on your preaching. You’re not the person to be doing it.

    • When was America better, Claire, during slavery, segregation, Jim Crow laws, and now red states trying to suppress black votes as well as the votes of others? Was it better when there were no child labor laws? Or, before Social Security and Medicare when old people were left to fend for themselves under your godliness? When, Claire? Answer that for us all.

      Yeah, your faith in God was so great for this country in the past.