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L.A. County officials push back against threats of deportation

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LOS ANGELES – The reconstituted Board of Supervisors voted 4-0 Tuesday to explore strategies to protect county residents from any potential changes in federal immigration policy.

Supervisor Hilda Solis recommended the analysis, saying many of her constituents are worried about President-elect Donald Trump’s statements about illegal immigration.

“In the last two, three weeks people have been very disturbed, very distraught, in particular our most vulnerable, our children,” Solis told City News Service in an earlier interview. “Our young children who are thinking, `Mom, are you going to get deported because you’re not here legally and I was born here? What’s going to happen to me? What’s going to happen to us?”‘
Supervisor Sheila Kuehl, who co-authored the motion with Solis, said, “We all came here on different ships, but we’re on the same boat now” and told her colleagues she was prepared to tell Washington, not in my house, not in my county, not in my state.”

Supervisor Kathryn Barger abstained from the vote.

Solis said she and Kuehl wanted to defend changes made by the county in recent years.

I would hate to see us claw back some of the reforms that we made with law enforcement as a result of getting rid of 287g (an agreement that had sheriff’s deputies enforcing immigration law) and also providing more of a buffer between ICE agents and their ability to come into our jails,” Solis said.

The board directed a task force to evaluate all the ways in which county departments help immigrants and how funding for those programs could be affected by changes at the federal level.

It also asked the task force to look at setting up a permanent Office of Immigrant Affairs and explore the county’s authority to prevent federal immigration enforcement at courts, schools and hospitals.

Supervisor Janice Hahn said she was horrified by the idea that residents who shared personal information when enrolling in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program might be deported using that same data.

Hahn vowed to fight that possibility even “if we have to build a wall around Los Angeles County to protect them.”

Barger suggested that the board use its powerful voice to tell its legislative representatives and lobbyists in Washington that immigration reform is a priority for Los Angeles County.

“I find it … shameful that on the one hand the federal government would reimburse us for” for putting immigrants in jail, Barger said, “but will not reimburse us for basic health care” for those same residents.

Solis and Hahn expressed some skepticism about whether it would make a difference. Hahn, a former member of the U.S. House of Representatives, said she and others on the Hill had begged House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, to put immigration reform to a vote.
Barger ultimately withdrew her amendment.

Solis stressed that all immigrant communities were at risk given what she called Trump’s incendiary language on the campaign trail.

“This is not just about protecting people who speak Spanish and look like Hilda Solis,” she told her colleagues, mentioning students from all over the world who may have overstayed their visas.

Nearly half of the county’s 3 million immigrant residents are citizens, Solis said. The balance includes legal permanent residents, refugees granted asylum, immigrants granted temporary relief under DACA and undocumented immigrants.

Trump has threatened to rollback DACA, which gives children brought to the United States before the age of 16 the ability to apply for work permits and live without the threat of deportation. The Center for American Progress estimated that deporting DACA workers could create a $433.4 billion loss in national gross domestic product over a decade.

Solis said she hoped Trump would be persuaded by economic arguments, saying mass deportation “would affect our ports, our economy, our growing economy,” and adding that immigrants are working to build many of the downtown towers under construction.

President Barack Obama took executive action to expand DACA and implement a similar program for parents, called Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents. Those moves have been blocked by lawsuits that went as far as the U.S. Supreme Court, where a 4-4 vote in June sent the matter back to the lower court. Trump has promised to terminate both programs.

The president-elect once threatened widespread deportation but later seemed to soften his tone, saying in a “60 Minutes” interview that he would focus on roughly 2 to 3 million illegal immigrants in the United States with criminal records.

Obama has deported an estimated 2.5 million illegal immigrants since 2009, more than half of whom were convicted criminals, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement data.

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98 comments for "L.A. County officials push back against threats of deportation"

  1. DONALD CHUMP IS NOT DEPOTING ANYBODY THE MAJORITY OF HIS HOTEL AND RESORT WORKERS ARE ILLEGAL TRUMPS MOTHER IS ALSO AND ILLEGAL SHE WAS NOT BORN IN THE US NEITHER IS HIS WIFE IS HE GOING TO DEPORT THEM ALSO.?

  2. MASS DEPORTATION WILL NOT HAPPEN IN CALIFORNIA NEVER OUR LOYAL DEMOCRATS ALREADY SIGNED A BILL PREVENTING THAT JAJAJAJAJA DONALD CHUMP AINT DOING NOTJING IN CALIFORNIA IM REALLY PROUD OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IF ANYBODY DOESNIT LIKE HOW OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS CAN MOVE OUT OF THE STATE.

  3. After Inauguration Day, the “dreamers” will be in Mexico dreaming about all the government benefits they used to get in the USA. And looking at the southern side of THE WALL!

    I’m dreaming of an illegal alien-free USA, so I guess I’m a dreamer too!

    • Difference being that the “dreamers” dream of great lives for themselves and all Americans, while your “dream” seems to focus on how much pain can be inflicted on others. Says quite a bit about you and how you were raised.

    • @Timmy nah, they won’t get deported they most likely will be your kid’s bosses and they will be mandated to wipe their behinds 2-3 times a day. You do understand that a large percentage of “dreamers” are college bound, right? Not only that, but they are hungry for success and they are twice as hard-working than those of us “real Americans”. While you teach your family members hate and racism, they are busy studying around the clock to become the best they can be. Also, you still don’t understand that president elect Cheeto will not fulfill his promise to all racist in this country? What do you think, that the almost 66 million people that voted for Hillary will just sit still and do absolutely nothing to defend people? Timmy please…

      • Can you site a source for the following.

        Majority of dreamers are college bound

        Dreamers work twice as hard as real Americans

        66 million people won’t stand for deportations

        Or are you just talking from your liberal behind.again?

        • Yes illiterate @patriot, read the posted article, we can wait until you go get your dictionary….scurry-on we don’t have all day.

          BTW, stop changing your name so much your lack of proper English is a dead give-away.

          • So,you have nothing,oh hateful lib.I think I know why your husband is gone for hours a day,just to go get “milk”.

        • Faketriot, somewhere there is a tree working real hard to create oxygen so you can breath……now go apoligize to it.

          • Now, now, pirrurris.

            patriot is delicate. Don’t be vexing him/her/it.

            He/she/it reminds me of when Daffy Duck gets ticked off and sputters. His posts are sputterings.

          • Well, Daffy. I can see by your improved grammar and punctuation (slightly) you were trying to avoid sputtering in your post.

            That only goes to show that you knew that you had been doing it all along.

            You are such a loser.

    • Children who immigrate to the United States with their families are likely to outperform kids with a similar background who were born here. And when they grow up, their own children are also likely to do better than their peers.

      But by the third generation, that advantage will be gone.

      That’s the principal finding in a large study from Johns Hopkins University that tracked nearly 11,000 young immigrants all the way to adulthood.

      That may fit a pattern some Americans see of so many kids from Asia who excel in everything from music to science as they embrace a new culture. But it holds for all immigrants, including those from Mexico who often arrive here in a desperate flight from poverty.

      It doesn’t mean that a poor kid who arrives here as a preteen will do better than an American kid from a wealthy family that values education, of course. But compared to an American youth with a similar background, the immigrant will have certain advantages.

      “They have higher expectations, they make a higher effort, and they have better cultural tools,” sociologist Lingxin Hao, lead author of the study, said in a telephone interview. “Their culture is not just American.”

      They have the experience of living their first years in a very different culture, “so they have cultural diversity and they are able to take the best part of both and use it while in school,” she added. That will continue to help them transition into adulthood.

      The study indicates the immigrants are more likely to succeed because they arrived here with high expectations, their parents expect them to work harder, and it’s likely they will have a stronger relationship than their American peers with their teachers.

      In most other countries, particularly Asia, “teachers are somebody,” Hao said. “They educate you, so you have to respect them.”

      Teachers respond to kids who work harder, and show respect, and that contributes to a stronger bond between the teacher and the student. In the end, that student is likely to do better.

      Hao, who came to America from China in 1985 to earn her doctorate at the University of Chicago, and sociologist Han S. Woo tracked 10,795 children who arrived in this country with their parents. They began following them from the age of 13 to 17 up to the age of 25 to 32 to see how well they made the transition from childhood to adult. The data was part of the university’s National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health and the Adolescent Health and Academic Achievement study.

      The researchers found that the best students, based on grades and course difficulty, were born in other countries and came to the United States in their early teens. They also were more successful in early adulthood, based on academic degrees and employment status.

      But the immigrants only slightly eclipsed children of immigrants who were born in this country. The authors say this may have been because, even though they had no firsthand knowledge of their homeland’s culture, they received its “cultural tools” from their parents.

      Those findings held true for both Hispanics and Asian children, compared to American kids with a similar background.

      Hao offered one theoretical explanation for why immigrant children do so much better than their peers:

      “It’s about family,” she said. “The parents have an optimistic view of bringing up their children in the United States. One important motivation for immigrants is to improve their children’s lives. The United States is the land of opportunity. If we work hard, we will get it.”

      New immigrants tend to settle in communities that have many other residents from the same part of the world, thus buttressing the “cultural tools” that might otherwise diminish over time.

      “If you go to Chinatown you see bankers there, but you also see people washing dishes. There’s many different people there. So even if your parents aren’t highly educated, you have other role models in your community,” Hao said.

      That further supports the idea that success comes to those who work the hardest, the study notes.

      But why does it end with the third generation? Hao speculates that the cultural tools from the old country will have been lost by then.

      The new kids “didn’t have to make sacrifices to come here,” she said. “They don’t have high motivation to change their family’s position in society.” In other words, they can get along while doing less.

      There’s one surprise in the study. Hao had hypothesized that some of the children would suffer from depression because of the intense pressure to succeed, but the findings do not support that. Even if they don’t measure up to their parent’s expectations, she speculated, they are doing better than their peers, so they probably feel pretty good about themselves.

      Of course, none of this means every kid who arrives here from somewhere else is going to outperform every kid in the neighborhood.

      “Not all of them, but more of them,” will likely succeed, she said.

  4. Romney got a call from trump tonight. He ain’t gonna be Secretary of State.

    So, he got conned into going to New York and kissing the ring after all he said about trump during the campaign.

    And, you think you weren’t conned, trump voter.

  5. ANYBODY THAT DOES NOT LIKE HOW OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL RULE CAN MOVE OUT OF THE STATE JUST AS EASY MIVE TO TEXAS OR ARIZONA SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING CALIFORNIA IS A DEMOCRAT STATE AND WILL ALWAYS BE

    • I don’t mind living in California. It’s Lancaster that sucks for me. Our mayor is a bully and constantly wastes our precious and limited tax dollars on pet projects and stupid ideas. I would move by I’m upside down on my house and it’s not easy to sell when there are police sirens going off and crime happening around you.

      • Tough break JB. It’s amazing the difference city government can make. It’s hard to tell if Palmdale’s is good, or just average, but the difference between it and Lancaster’s is like night and day. I’m pretty well convinced that since Bell got closed down Lancaster has the worst in the state.

        • If they were ever to do some digging into the deals made in Lancaster over the past 30 years or so, it would be bigger news than Bell. No bid contracts to friends, land bought and sold by insiders to insiders on Fern Street, cronyism, earmarked funds used for other purposes, pay to play relationships with businesses, and on and on it goes.

    • @Josie Hanh, ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY- LOVE IT!

      @JB, you should rent your house and move to Palmdale, idiots keep voting for R. Rex, but stupidity is sadly expected since they also voted for Trump.

    • And how exactly did they hack the election? It was not the Russians that hacked the emails, it was an inside leak by a Bernie supporter who was pissed that the Democrats pushed him aside even though he had more support than Hillary. That sounds about as reasonable as the Russians hacking the elections. The people have spoken and Hillary will not be our next President thank God

      • “Inside leak by a Bernie supporter”…where’d you hear that one? Breitbart, Faux News, or some other “info-tainment source” targeting the gullible?

        • And I am guessing you get your news from CNN and MSNBC and believe all the “news” that they promote. Both sides of the media only tell what they want you to believe, just like the political parties themselves. I read both sides of the media and make my own conclusions. I was really just throwing the Bernie supporter out there to prove a point that you cannot believe everything you hear. Julian Asange has stated that it was not the Russians who gave him the emails it was an inside leak form within the Democratic Party, whether that is true or not only he can say.

  8. So the radical left wing Board of Sups have joined Jerry Brown in selling Californians out. California: the newest 3rd world country.

    • LOL…that is about as far from the truth as you can get. The complaint from the fly over states is that “the recovery left them behind.” The reason that happened is because THOSE states are basically a third world economy, but they can’t compete in that market. Their low education work force wants Trump to somehow “bring back their jobs”…which are jobs that no one really wants because the heavy manufacturing and resource production jobs are hard dangerous unskilled work that is being done in other countries for pennies a day…frequently in ‘dormitory factories’ where most of the pay is in the form of room and board and the employment contracts involve a fixed term in what amounts to an indentured servitude prison.

      California, because it has among the most progressive policies in the nation, did NOT get left behind by the recovery. In fact we are right at the front of it. Wake up and smell reality.

      • Plus, states like Kansas that are run by the gop are a mess.

        Since the republicans have had majorities in Congress for years and in most of the states, why aren’t they responsible for the lackluster recoveries in those red (now orange) states?

        Because they listen to right wing media and live in the fact-free universe as you noted, Tim Scott. California is the 6th largest economy in the world yet valleygirl thinks we are a 3rd world country. Only in her mind.

    • High speed rail in the works, desalination in the works, freeways with 5 lanes or more in each direction, sky scrapers going up up up, beaches being protected, taking care of our legal citizens AND all of those evil evil (read very sarcastically ) immigrants plus refugees and still providing aid through our California sponsored emergency response teams.
      But yeah, we are 3rd world. Oh did I forget to mention our sciences labs?

      • Number one complaint heard from those “the recovery left us behind” conservatives in the Midwest…their kids get educated and abandon them for good jobs…in blue states.

        • Good point. But, it will be lost on those who need to hear it and get it.

          California has recovered fairly from the great bush recession and under President’s Obama’s 2 terms.

          I love it when some ‘orange’ state governors (Kasich) brag about their successes in the last 8 years while ignoring that they were under President Obama’s administration.

          Then, there are other orange state governors who blame him for their problems when they didn’t recover very much. Huh?

          So, for millions of Americans, electing an unfit, ill-equipped and unwilling-to-learn person such as trump is the answer. What could go wrong with that?

          Since November 8, he’s shown us just how reckless and thoughtless he really is and how the next 4 years will go. There is no learning curve when the person is unwilling or unable to learn. It’s like trying to teach your cat to say its name.

          • Finally understand orange state! LOL
            Gotta love how he talks about seeing the result after his 8 years in office.

      • valleygirl unwittingly reveals too much of her lack of information or abundance of misinformation when she posts. There is no cure.

        But, she will keep on doing it.

  9. Everyone who voted for Donald Trump thinking he was going to do something about illegal immigration just found out that he don’t care he’s all about the money he can make and the suckers he can get to vote for him

  10. Nobody cares about the illegal alien that does a normal 9-5 and occasional holiday party. The problem is the few repeat drunk drivers and the rapists and the burgulars, the kidnappers, the gang members that have been caught and have long criminal histories. THAT is who the sanctuary believers are really protecting. Everyone else will literally not even be noticable because they never enter the criminal system to get noticed. The criminals are already picked up, they just need to be held long enough for deportation.

    • Some people, you must be getting your news from Alex Jones and FOX News. No one is in favor of protecting criminals. If you are undocumented and have commited a serious hard core crime you should be deported. However, when we try to criminalize someone for selling flowers or oranges…..that is BS.

      And just to be clear, we have criminals from ALL races, not just undocumented like FOX News is making you believe. And if you go by the statistics, we have more white legal us citizens that are pedophiles and rapists……..more than umdocumented. Just saying.

      • Exactly except they try protecting them by saying they have a mental disorder. B.s they are mental period

  11. It’s called harboring a fugitive and aiding and abetting criminals. If you violate the law, you are a criminal. ILLEGAL aliens are criminals. I hope President Trump arrests the lot of these liberal supervisors and charges them with treason. Then deports all the illegals like he promised and builds The Wall to keep them out.

    • Harboring? Aiding and abetting? Treason??? I would LOVE to see you make that case. Start any time.

      • When President Trump (you libtards must hate that) is inaugurated, the round ups will begin. Anybody that gets in the way can get deported too and see how great life in Mexico or Guatemala is. Hopefully, Tim will be the first to go.

        • LOL…Mike, I wish I could see your face when you realize that Trump lied to you. There aren’t going to be any round ups. Trump couldn’t pull it off, even if he really did want to, and there is no indication that he ever really did.

          • Tim’s predictions:

            Trump will never get the nomination
            Trump will drop out
            Trump can never win

            Timmy is WRONG again!

          • Really Mike? I seem to remember predicting that if Trump won the country was going to hell in a handbasket. I also remember thinking that no majority of Americans could be that stupid. I think I was right on both counts. Unfortunately the majority doesn’t count in the electoral college, so here we go. Still, I would love to see your face when even you figure out that Trump just said whatever he needed to say to get elected and has no real plan to institute the fascist regime you long for.

          • Are those predictions “I made” when you were pretending to be me Mike? I understand your personality is weak, but you should really try something other than pretending to be me. Therapy Mike, therapy, get some self esteem.

    • @Mile or @Mike? How does it feel to rot from the inside out and to be missing a soul? Vile excuse for human and waste of oxygen, do us a favor and deport yourself!

    • Mile, your POS crooked Trump is not going to do jack crap. He himself has used undocumented human beigns to build his hotels and has benefited from illegal immigration. You should really consider moving to himabama. You would fit well with the rest of the rest of the racists. By chance …..are you a hyocrite evangelical christian that is friends with Jesus on Sunday, but discriminates the rest of the week? Please go choke yourself.

  12. I hope Trump gets with Congress and cut funding to all these cities. If they dont want to follow laws let them go broke.

    • As you’ve been told any number of times, they aren’t disobeying any laws. There are no laws governing immigration that apply to them. Now you are advocating for Trump and congress to violate laws, specifically the constitution of the United States. Double standard much?

    • Ron, illegal immigration has always been a pronlem…..native americans used to call it white people. Please unf*^*k yourself.

      • The Indians just lived here . There was no country until Whitey made it one. It was the Whites that came up with the United States of America. It was White people who came up with the Consitituition. It was Whitey that made the country rich. White Europeans were so much further advanced than everyone else during that day and time. Everybody else was 3rd world. THANK GOD FOR WHITEY. North America would have been 3rd world without the White Europeans.

        • Don’t forget, those Europeans INVENTED fascism. Certain badly flawed individuals are still proud of it.

          • Is that why the Western White Countries have the most freedom, most wealth, and best place to live, have the highest living standards? Want to try again Tim Scott?

          • No Ron. There’s no point in trying again with you. Your obvious lack of concern for facts has been demonstrated sufficiently.

        • Actually Ron there were many countries here just like Europe has. You really need to go back to school or use the internet for its original purpose, educate yourself.
          Native Americans has aqueduct systems, cities, trade with other continents, etc. When Europeans arrived on the scene they got here at the end of an era when there had been several epidemics, and societal melt downs.
          The Constitution is based partially on the Iroquois Confederacy’s oral constitution called The Great Law of Peace.
          As to what level world – Many would rather have nature and fending for theirselves than being a slave to corporate powers.

          • Well if it had not been for Whitey u most likely be living 3rd world. The Whiteman is what made the Western world the most wealthy and the most Free.

        • Ron, get it right. Whitey stole the land and masacred millions in the process.

          And no, whitey did not make this country rich, tjis country was made rich on the backs of African Americans and immigrants.

          I hate to break to you, but God was black, and he would not approve of all the masacres that whitey has done.

          Last, be very careful….be kind to the people o your way up, cause you may meet them on your way down. In case you did not know, whitey will soon be the minority and let’s hope that the people that the people that whitey offended, does not do the same to you. Just saying….since you brought up whitey.

          • Lol. U still be riding horseback and wiping youre butt with fig leaves if it hadnt been for Whitey. Whites are the ones that invented car, airplanes TV, radio etc. We would never have the life we have now without those White Europeans. The Indians NEVER would have moved foward. They still be living like they did 200 years ago.White people progressed. One day we may even go to Mars.

          • So where are the mass graves being dug today? That would be Mexico, Africa and the Middle East. Do you really want to talk about massacres? It is not the white man doing it.
            All countries had their their share of massacres. Even the Japanese had massacred woman and children in China during their war.

          • Ron, you are right. America is great thanks to the hard work and sacrafice of great immigrants. Not panssy freeloaders like you:).

            Have you taken the tinfoil hat off your head yet? Or are you still waiting for the Alien rapture? Hahahaaaa!!!!!

      • Goodness gracious, it’s just skin! Who the heck cares what color that skin is. We all bleed red. All people matter to God.

  13. So if I say I dont want to pay taxes because I dont like that law, does that mean I can just ignore it because I dont like that law?

    • No, because that law specifically applies to you. There is not a single word of federal immigration law that requires a county board of supervisors or any county agency anywhere to do anything at all. You seem to be intentionally not getting this, because it really is simple.

      Let me try one more time.

      You don’t have to get a license and wear it around your neck, even though there is a law about it, because YOU AREN’T A DOG. That law doesn’t apply to you.

      Federal immigration law doesn’t apply to counties or county agencies, because counties DO NOT immigrate. They are just here. Been here right along. Aren’t coming from anywhere.

      Get it yet?

    • Ron, no my little pain in the ass, you still have to pay your taxes. Just like i have to pay taxes to pay for corporate welfare, 2.3 billion dollar f-35 airctaft, and the military industrial complex. Suck it up.

  14. And just whose money are these dimwits proposing to use? Perhaps I will delay making my LA County property tax payments until their heads are forcibly removed from their backsides. This is theft. These politicians are acting like criminals.

    • You should stop paying your property taxes, I fully support your decision. Don’t worry the 1/4 tax hike will help support you when you find yourself homeless. See, we got your back. (:

      p.s.
      Can I get your APN #s so I can purchase them at auction price?

      • Aren’t you charming? I will never be homeless, thank you. I paid off my mortgage – hard work can do that you know. And I bought all of my investment properties at the tax auction, so I know the penalties and how far I can push it. If these local loonies intend to subvert federal laws, they can do it without my money for awhile.

        • Hmm, you bought them at auction from someone that may have lost them and perhaps became homeless? Are you a slum lord @MK? Just remember that karma may come around your way, you never know! My household also works very hard and we live quite well and we also have investment properties, thank you for wondering. Some people think they are the only ones prosperous- too funny, but you are still bitxxxxc about things that truly don’t affect you because you are so well off. Hahaha you are ridiculous!

        • LOL…you BOUGHT them at a tax auction and yet you think you can get away with just skipping property taxes. That’s a pretty hilarious combination. Why would anyone who has done as well as you claim volunteer to pay penalties?

          Looks to me like another self aggrandizing tale of dubious merit.

  15. The Feds should lock up the LA Board. What makes them think they can not follow Fed. Laws and just make stuff up as they go. They should be required to follow Fed .Laws or get arrested. They are harboring fugtives.

    • On what charge would that be Ron?

      Oh, wait, there is NO federal law that says anything about what the county is doing. There is no federal law saying “counties must use their law enforcement resources as directed by federal agencies.” There is no federal law saying “counties must allow federal agencies unlimited access to their facilities.” In fact there IS a federal law prohibiting any agencies OTHER than federal agencies from being involved in immigration law or its enforcement.

      In other words, if you are going to blab about “follow federal laws” you should take a look at what they actually say.

      • Congress should make new laws. What makes them think they can decide to follow the laws they want to follow and the ones they dont want to follow? You cant have people just making stuff up ad they go. WE HAVE LAWS FOR A REASON

        • The laws are written in the current style to limit the Federal Government to protecting Federal sovereignty without encroaching on States right to govern. In other words, small government.
          The Federal agencies enforce the laws for immigration while city police forces/county sheriffs enforce the laws of municipalities.
          It all is really simple to understand.

      • Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
        Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
        “Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”
        Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):
        A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
        * assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or
        * encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
        * knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
        Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief

          • He should say: “Thank you for the education. I have been talking out of my backside for far too long.”

            But we know that won’t happen.

          • Why would I thank someone for cut and pasting in a totally chopped up fashion from laws I am fully familiar with and can find easily in full text?

            Meanwhile, the key words are “assists,” “encourages,” and “should reasonably know.”

            You’ll notice that specific forms of assistance are spelled out directly. If someone trips and falls and you help them up that could be loosely described as “assisting them,” but isn’t illegal. The assistance that is prohibited is specified, because NO, we do not have any vague law saying “no assistance allowed.” The county is not offering rides, shelter, or employment assistance, so is not committing any crime.

            Similarly, you’ll notice that the encouragement clause specifies “by” an assortment of employment related functions. Can’t hire them, can’t refer them to someone who will, stuff like that. It does not mean that a reading teacher that says “you’re doing great, Jose” is a criminal.

            Then there is the “should reasonably know” phrase. That is SPECIFICALLY what the whole ‘sanctuary city’ controversy is about. If there is no particular reason to ask someone their immigration status, and you don’t ask, there is no expectation that you “should reasonably know.” So in the so called “sanctuary cities” various agencies that have no reason to ask are directed NOT to ask.

            Law enforcement responding to a rape, robbery, or other crime have no need to know the immigration status of the victim. By specifically directing that they will not ask for this irrelevant information they get better cooperation in the form of crimes being reported. There are similar benefits all down the line, so letting the feds do their own job is a positive for the county…and isn’t a crime.

          • Don’t worry, Tim will twist it to what ever fits HIS narrative, regardless of law or common sense. He and others have failed to remember history and recall that we have had a President that did go through an actual round-up process of several million illegal invaders. It was during a time quite similar to what we are experiencing right now; Unemployment at an all time high and the economy still struggling.
            The reason Demoncrats are pitching such a fit is not because of ” . . .the families and children.” It’s because they see their voter base being reduced. They are MORE than happy to invite the world to live in California and have tax paying Californians pay for them. Enough of that crap! The good ship USS California is ‘overbooked’ and ‘listing’. Capt. Brown and his crew seem to be drunk in the galley, unaware the ship has “hit an iceberg.”

        • @patriot “Federal” is the magic word, but your reading comprehension is so minimal that you can’t understand simplicity at it’s best. That’s pretty much all you are good for, you can only copy and paste. We all know you can’t construct a full sentence on your own- I cringe when I see your comments!

          • Who is the bigger buffoon.smhx2 or tim.clearly states anyone,including government,will be committing a felon.they know they are illegal.aiding and abetting.try to spin it anyway.smhx2,don’t you have go teach your kids to be a hateful low life human being,like yourself?

          • I know that you don’t have any clue about punctuation, but the comma before “by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment” does NOT mean “the rest of this sentence is optional.”

            Learn basic English before trying law.

          • Sorry,I didnt know it was a test.but the point is made.helping known illegals is a felony.no matter how you try to spin it,you are wrong.I get that libs have a hard time accepting being wrong,so just blame bush,cheney,reagan or republican of your choice.

          • It isn’t a test. But when you paste up text from THE LAW you should probably read what it actually says. Especially if you are going to claim it makes your point when it specifically does NOT say what you want it to, because that just makes it look like you can’t read.

          • Lol.thats all I got.you cant fix liberal.its your interpretation.glad you are not on a bench or court.

    • Ron, the feds should lock up the lunatics that voted for crooked Trump. Do you work for Boeing by chance? The same hypocrites that are sucking on the government tit, are the same ones complaing about the sky falling.

    • Move to Alabama. They went on a “we shall devote the resources of the state to assisting the feds on immigration at all costs” campaign a few years back. Crashed the state economy, such as it is, and still haven’t recovered.

  17. Illegal means illegal … period!!!! There are consequences for braking the law …what is right is to remain right… what’s law without orders?

    • Law without orders is…law. That question reveals a complete misunderstanding of what the expression “law and order” means.

      That said, enforcement of immigration law is the responsibility of federal law enforcement agencies, not the county or even the state. Aspen Colorado has a law against firing catapults at buildings, but it isn’t up to the LA County Sheriff to enforce that one either.

        • That’s actually what you are suggesting. Assuming that it was you who suggested the feds should “lock up” the supervisors even though they haven’t committed any crime.

          As Laughing pointed out, it really is simple to understand.

          There is no law that says county enforcement agencies are responsible for enforcing anything other than COUNTY laws. In fact there are numerous places where federal law specifically prohibits anyone OTHER than federal agencies from enforcing them, and in the case of immigration there is a federal law that actually PROHIBITS counties from passing laws on the subject for their agencies to enforce.

    • Mona, were your illegal european immigrant ancestors illegal too? Or does that only apply to the brown people? Reverse yourself.