PASADENA – A Palmdale man was one of five alleged gang members arrested in Pasadena Saturday night after a short car pursuit, authorities said.
Justin Taylor, 19, of Palmdale, was arrested on suspicion of being in possession of a loaded handgun.
The arrest happened after gang investigators tried to pull over a car containing five men Saturday night in the 800 block of North Raymond Avenue in Pasadena, according to the Pasadena Star News. Instead of stopping, the car sped off and the chase was underway.
A few minutes later the car did stop and the five men ran from the car, Pasadena police Chief Phillip Sanchez told the newspaper. Officers rounded up the five men and confiscated a gun they had thrown away during the foot chase.
According to the Pasadena police, the four others arrested with Taylor were identified as:
- Ronald Hill, 34, of Pasadena, arrested on suspicion of being a convicted felon in possession of a handgun and an outstanding warrant.
- Isaac Brooks, 22, of Pasadena, booked on suspicion of being a felon in possession of a gun and violating the terms of Post Release Community Supervision.
- Laron Daniels, 24, of Pasadena, arrested on suspicion of being a convicted felon in possession of a gun.
- Davian Thomas, 22, of Pasadena, booked on suspicion of being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm and violation of his parole.
Taylor and Daniels were booked in lieu of $35,000 bail. Meanwhile, Thomas, Brooks and Hill were all held without bail, according to L.A. County jail records.
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Ron says
Well let’s see how Tim Scott will defend the gang members and blame the cops. Liberals are mental!!
Tim Scott says
See Ron, this is how you demonstrate that you just aren’t getting it. I don’t “defend gang members” and I don’t “blame the cops.” In this story there are very few details, and I had nothing in particular to say on the matter.
Now, IF there had been something in the article to suggest that THESE cops had “attempted to pull the car over” without any sort of lawful justification, THEN I would be more than willing to “blame” them for having done so…since I expect cops, more than anyone else, to abide by the law.
Does cops abiding by the law sometimes benefit gang members? Yeah, probably it does. Are there people who believe that allowing cops to be criminals is somehow “good”? Apparently so. I’m not one of them, so you are free to make the wildly inaccurate conclusion that I “defend gang members” by demanding that cops follow the law. But I hope that doing so make you appear as silly to most people as it does to me.
Alexis says
If you feel so strongly about police accountability, Tim, why don’t you actually DO something like support “National Police Accountability Project,” Complaining and demanding do nothing unless you’re actually putting in the work. Shut up and walk the walk, Tim.
Tim Scott says
Idle curiosity Alexis…what makes you think that you are qualified to make statements about what I am not doing? You’ve never met me. You don’t know me. Yet you say “why don’t you…” as if you somehow know that I’m not. An amazing level of omniscience for someone who gives the appearance of not even being able to read, based on the number of times you accuse me of saying things that I clearly haven’t.
Valley resident says
Don’t try to nail down Tim Scott’s comments, because he is very good at deflection. Answering a question by asking a question, stonewalling, and rendering the conversation pointless and insignificant. He’s been getting away with his bullying (name-calling) since he began commenting three years ago. It will catch up to him; it always does with bullies.
aManOfTruth says
The problem here is- many of you have never experienced police corruption. You’re used to being treated respectfully by police and have never known what its like to encounter a cop if you are poor, homeless, an addict, or have a record. You would be amazed by what they can get away with and how evil some cops are. I have a funny feeling that Tim Scott has experienced police corruption…
Tim Scott says
The funny thing is that you don’t have to be poor, homeless, an addict, or have a record. Wrong cop, wrong place, wrong time.
One of my employees, an ordinary working guy, got stopped walking down the street from one job site to another. The cop threatened to shoot him if he didn’t “drop the weapon”…a POOL NET. Eventually there were four cop cars involved, with a bunch of cops laughing at the paranoid knucklehead in their midst…but they made clear that if asked they would certainly back up their brother as having made a “reasonable inquiry into suspicious behavior” with probable cause based on “investigating the possible crime of pool net theft.” They explained to their idiot exactly what he had to say to “make it legit” right in front of my guy, knowing it would be their word, as a group, against his.
Haha, hoho…this little interlude cost me two customers that I know of, because they flat told me that they had seen my guy “in trouble with the cops.” How many other people drove by and saw this circus is an open question. When I complained at the sheriff’s station the cop at the desk was very apologetic and said he would take the complaint if I wanted, but suggested I think about whether someone driving around all day doing pool service would “really benefit” from “making trouble with the cops out there.” All his empty apologizing aside, he made it pretty clear that he himself thought I was a troublemaker and he’d be first in line to make sure I got pulled over every day for the rest of my life.
That’s cops.
Tim Scott says
LOL…sorry dude, but if you are going to make up a story you’d have to make up a plausible story. You seriously think people are going to believe you called the cops with evidence that your poolman stole several items from you…meaning they had evidence and the name of the criminal and could close a case without even leaving the donut shop…and they didn’t do anything? Get real.
Also, if one of my customers was spreading a tale about me or my guys I wouldn’t not return their calls. If they had some sort of evidence I’d want to know, and if they didn’t I’d want to let them know the consequences of making unsupported accusations. Either way, I’d want to connect with them.
Since I didn’t have to make up a story I don’t have the plausibility problem. No doubt there is a deputy who will be getting a good natured “hahaha I remember when you did that” from his fellows if any of them read this page. I’ve told that story twice to local cops that I consider good cops, who both said ‘yeah, sorry that kind of thing happens.’ Other than really committed badge lickers I doubt that anyone would even think twice about it being not just believable, but typical.
When I speak out against the cops, hardly anyone really steps up and says “oh they’d never do anything like that.” Comments like “dude, you gotta be careful, they are gonna get you” come in at about a hundred to one more often. Most people know that the cops are a gang of thugs, when pushed to think about it.
didithappen? says
LOL, sorry dude, but they said get in line, because there are many more before me that got ripped off by you. You might not be a cop but you’ve affected the people that have done business with you, and were betrayed by your dishonest ways. You have zero integrity, dude.
Tim Scott says
Here’s an interesting thing…if you cancelled service you wouldn’t have to worry about me “not returning your calls,” because if you cancelled service I’d have been calling you. If there had EVER been someone who cancelled service claiming that they had had “several items stolen” I would know exactly who you are.
If this story were true, would you actually post it? Why would you bother with an anonymous screen name, since the only person you need to hide from would already know who you are?
Put Up or Shut Up says
If you know who Tim Scott is, know the name of his company, and could file a criminal charge against him, post it. He doesn’t seem like the type that the cops would just let slide because they’re too busy. Even if they are, our Shane Falco gets inside information out of the DA’s office and that fool would probably pay to have something to get an investigation into Tim Scott started with.
So if you have something, share it. Otherwise Tim Scott is probably going to make you look like more of a fool than he already has.
AV Observer says
Shane Falco gets inside information out of the DA’s office? Really? The same inside information that Parris tried to use to destroy Raymond Lee Jennings, Randy Floyd, and Esmeralda Jorge? Tried and FAILED.
People like Foolco and Parris are what is wrong with the Antelope Valley. I suspect Put Up or Shut Up is of the same ilk.
Tim Scott says
Well, this got interesting.
What “evidence” do you think I should have? Was I supposed to bronze the pool net and hang it on a wall? I actually took a risk just mentioning the event, because some cop might have a notebook that would allow them to identify me based on notes they took that day…or might even just remember what company the guy they harassed worked for
On the other hand, someone accusing me and my company of a crime would lose…what…by posting all the information that they have? Assuming for a moment that their story were true, *I* would already know they are that former customer with the complaint about stolen stuff. I’d know their name, their address, and probably have their credit card info. They would have NOTHING to gain by not making their case as best they could.
But they won’t. I’ll let you guess why.
Put Up or Shut Up says
Surely I’m not the only one who has noticed Shane Falco playing the “I know something you don’t know” game with ‘scoops’ about things the DA’s office was about to release regarding the Ledford investigation? He obviously has some sort of source that allows him to play big man with the info…or more likely doesn’t know that their friend/relative/neighbor is posting stuff they probably shouldn’t be sharing on a website.
That’s why I brought him up, out of left field. It sure seems like if someone here had a case to make against anyone that Shane Falco so obviously dislikes there would be every reason to provide the details. Shane takes it to his friend/relative/neighbor and bad things happen to Tim Scott.
I don’t really want bad things to happen to Tim Scott. I was just pointing out that this tale about him stealing stuff from a yard looks pretty unrealistic. There is no reason for them to not put up, so they probably should shut up.
Tim Scott says
Just for the record, I didn’t do any ‘investigation,’ nor did I ask any ‘cop friends’ to do so. People sent me e-mails suggesting that people they knew in the real world fit the description to be Shane Falco, unsolicited. I cannot explain their motives. Since there was more than one ‘candidate’ I did do some checking by calling Foolco “Donnie.” he seemed to laugh that off, but the information about the other candidate was a better ‘fit’ and he has never laughed about any reference made to that real person.
That person gave a talk in the AV, and I went and saw him since it was an interesting topic. Could very well be the real Foolco. Runty little guys do frequently develop the kind of attitude that Foolco projects.
K says
Our Gardner let our German Shepard out and my son who was sleeping from an accident heard our dog he ran to get our dog had a seizure the neighbors callEd sheriff’s and 10 showed up they did not know he was coming out of a granma seizure and as I pulled up 10 cops were beating him. I don’t blame the police because they thought he was a lunatic. I do hope there are better trainings for possible medical issues. We did not sue…. But my neighbors hate us and have harassed me to move. I have thought about suicide because of it. Its horrible. Prayers for humanity that’s all I have left.
Laughing says
I have had a couple bad encounters with officers and I was not poor, homeless, an addict or had a record. Nothing like being felony stopped and put face down in the middle of Sierra Hwy for a broken tail light. It was fun watching the officer explain to superiors why he decided to call in more people and do that especially after they saw my Federal ID hanging from my neck.
You are correct though, many an officer will treat a person as priors not as a new incident but rather as a continuation of anything prior in the record. It could be years later and the person has turned a leaf but not to that officer. It is a form of prejudice.
Some officers are bad apples, but the majority of them are decent folk just trying to do their job in a regularly changing legal minefield with people they do not know in confrontational situations everyday.
Tim Scott says
You do know that the “bad apple” reference comes from the truism “a bad apple spoils the whole barrel,” right? The ‘barrel’ is obsolete, but everyone should recognize that if you bring a bag of apples home from the store and set it on the counter, if there is an apple in the bag going bad it WILL spread to all the others very fast. If you don’t get rid of the bad one right away you will end up with nothing but bad apples.
People actually use the reference correctly. “Some officers” are the “bad apples.” Problem is that almost all of their fellows in the blue brotherhood are in the bag with them. Every cop I’ve ever heard of that did what would be considered “the right thing” regarding another cop’s misconduct has suffered the consequences.